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    bjsteel34
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2017 - 2:18 AM ET #51

    "Sore losers will always remember the coincidences where they got a bad beat. It rarely happens. But boy it sure wounds them and they never heal. And they will grow old and senile and be dotards, never really able to prove anything."

    Ummm, never really able to prove anything is your proof that no games are ever fixed?  If you think this game tonight wasn't fixed, you need help...I didn't bet much and made out on the week, so not really that worried, but I'm not stupid...I feel sorry for you to be honest. 
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    "Sore losers will always remember the coincidences where they got a bad beat. It rarely happens. But boy it sure wounds them and they never heal. And they will grow old and senile and be dotards, never really able to prove anything."

    Ummm, never really able to prove anything is your proof that no games are ever fixed?  If you think this game tonight wasn't fixed, you need help...I didn't bet much and made out on the week, so not really that worried, but I'm not stupid...I feel sorry for you to be honest. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2017 - 2:20 AM ET #52

    Quote Originally Posted by bettingforfun:

    How come the books didn't fix the Philly and New England games? They lost their a$$ on those 2 square plays.


    U tell us hotdawg!
    6K GOLD/$150 SILVER/ Find JESUS! Yes, I'm a sinner!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bettingforfun:

    How come the books didn't fix the Philly and New England games? They lost their a$$ on those 2 square plays.


    U tell us hotdawg!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2017 - 2:23 AM ET #53

    Very few people can see through the fog to grasp the truth. It's ok, but it's also sad. I feel sorry for people who lose money on games like this. BTW, I didn't bet this joke tonight.
    6K GOLD/$150 SILVER/ Find JESUS! Yes, I'm a sinner!!
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    Very few people can see through the fog to grasp the truth. It's ok, but it's also sad. I feel sorry for people who lose money on games like this. BTW, I didn't bet this joke tonight.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2017 - 2:49 AM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by bettingforfun:

    How come the books didn't fix the Philly and New England games? They lost their a$$ on those 2 square plays.

    I go to a certain casino I don't want to blow them up because everybody would go there if I did mention the name but........if you go to the window and pick eagles and patriots each week the teller will just tell you congratulations you picked the winning side and even give you a drink voucher 

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    Quote Originally Posted by bettingforfun:

    How come the books didn't fix the Philly and New England games? They lost their a$$ on those 2 square plays.

    I go to a certain casino I don't want to blow them up because everybody would go there if I did mention the name but........if you go to the window and pick eagles and patriots each week the teller will just tell you congratulations you picked the winning side and even give you a drink voucher 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2017 - 3:59 AM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by bettingforfun:

    How come the books didn't fix the Philly and New England games? They lost their a$$ on those 2 square plays.

    And for every square play that hit today there were just as many + more square plays that defied logic and had the dog cover or win outright.  That's how vegas books and the league maximize their profits.  If every favorite covered against every injury ridden team with Brett Hundleys as the starting QB, sportsbooks would be out of business in a matter of weeks 
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    Quote Originally Posted by bettingforfun:

    How come the books didn't fix the Philly and New England games? They lost their a$$ on those 2 square plays.

    And for every square play that hit today there were just as many + more square plays that defied logic and had the dog cover or win outright.  That's how vegas books and the league maximize their profits.  If every favorite covered against every injury ridden team with Brett Hundleys as the starting QB, sportsbooks would be out of business in a matter of weeks 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2017 - 7:11 AM ET #56

    Vegas makes 2-3% of their profits from sportsbetting....they could careless about sporting events....they make more in 1 hrs off slot machines than a week of "fixed" sporting events 
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    Vegas makes 2-3% of their profits from sportsbetting....they could careless about sporting events....they make more in 1 hrs off slot machines than a week of "fixed" sporting events 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2017 - 7:47 AM ET #57

    Quote Originally Posted by bettingforfun:


    Have you ever worked in a sports book in Vegas?
    I have.
    That's why I laugh at the tin foil hat club in this forum.
    Completely clueless.


    so you were a dishwasher for 2 weeks and you think you know how to set lines or what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bettingforfun:


    Have you ever worked in a sports book in Vegas?
    I have.
    That's why I laugh at the tin foil hat club in this forum.
    Completely clueless.


    so you were a dishwasher for 2 weeks and you think you know how to set lines or what?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2017 - 8:35 AM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by skullf:

    Come on  on man , the biggest moneymaker for LV CASINOS FROM AUGUST TO FEBUARY IS THE SPORTSBOOK, especially NFL, SECONDLY ncaafb, they make their living off it. this was the last game of the night all the public favs had cashed and there was a world of money tied up in the Steelers with PARLAYS, TEASERS...THIS WAS THE BIG BAILOUT FOR THE SPORTSBOOKS, they had to determine the spread and the field goal was the perfect answer for them.


    The biggest moneymaker in LV casinos will always be Slots. after that comes Video Poker. sports betting is very small potatoes by comparison for LV casinos. Parlays and teasers are profitable for LV casinos, but that's nothing when compared to the amount of slot machine losers that hit the casinos hourly.  

    offshore books are a different story. They make much more money off losers betting on sports. This is why they offer bonuses and have rollovers b/c most will lose long before the rollover is fulfilled. 

    They are two completely different business models. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by skullf:

    Come on  on man , the biggest moneymaker for LV CASINOS FROM AUGUST TO FEBUARY IS THE SPORTSBOOK, especially NFL, SECONDLY ncaafb, they make their living off it. this was the last game of the night all the public favs had cashed and there was a world of money tied up in the Steelers with PARLAYS, TEASERS...THIS WAS THE BIG BAILOUT FOR THE SPORTSBOOKS, they had to determine the spread and the field goal was the perfect answer for them.


    The biggest moneymaker in LV casinos will always be Slots. after that comes Video Poker. sports betting is very small potatoes by comparison for LV casinos. Parlays and teasers are profitable for LV casinos, but that's nothing when compared to the amount of slot machine losers that hit the casinos hourly.  

    offshore books are a different story. They make much more money off losers betting on sports. This is why they offer bonuses and have rollovers b/c most will lose long before the rollover is fulfilled. 

    They are two completely different business models. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2017 - 8:53 AM ET #59

    Another Las Vegas casino worker here. I can also tell you that Vegas has nothing to do with the outcome of the football games, truth is the books do not generate much money towards the overall profit of a casino. Some books have allowed private companies like William Hill set up shop because it isn't as lucrative as you may think. Not every weekend in Vegas is Super Bowl weekend.

    Also, table games on a Tuesday can take in as much or more money than a Sunday afternoon in the Sports Book. The book tries to find a number that draws wagers on both sides that even out, making money on losing wagers while making 10% on paying out winning wagers. They also make their money on parlays, because those are "sucker" bets. Anyone who has access to a Sports Book or a casino's P&L report can tell you this. 

    Sometimes, you just lose your bets. Sometimes, you get a bad beat. It happens to the books too.
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    Another Las Vegas casino worker here. I can also tell you that Vegas has nothing to do with the outcome of the football games, truth is the books do not generate much money towards the overall profit of a casino. Some books have allowed private companies like William Hill set up shop because it isn't as lucrative as you may think. Not every weekend in Vegas is Super Bowl weekend.

    Also, table games on a Tuesday can take in as much or more money than a Sunday afternoon in the Sports Book. The book tries to find a number that draws wagers on both sides that even out, making money on losing wagers while making 10% on paying out winning wagers. They also make their money on parlays, because those are "sucker" bets. Anyone who has access to a Sports Book or a casino's P&L report can tell you this. 

    Sometimes, you just lose your bets. Sometimes, you get a bad beat. It happens to the books too.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2017 - 9:08 AM ET #60

    You placed a bet on a prime time heavy fave after knowing the books got buried and expected the obvious better team to cover easily lol. You knew what you were getting yourself into. I do believe in fixes; last years Mexico game was an obvious one but take your loss with some dignity. The NFL can’t have teams blowing out their opponent consistently. It’s not good for them. 

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    You placed a bet on a prime time heavy fave after knowing the books got buried and expected the obvious better team to cover easily lol. You knew what you were getting yourself into. I do believe in fixes; last years Mexico game was an obvious one but take your loss with some dignity. The NFL can’t have teams blowing out their opponent consistently. It’s not good for them. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2017 - 9:31 AM ET #61

    Name one sportsbook that has been accused of fixing a game let alone being found guilty of it?

    That's what I thought, simpletons.

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    Name one sportsbook that has been accused of fixing a game let alone being found guilty of it?

    That's what I thought, simpletons.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2017 - 9:34 AM ET #62

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawky:



    so you were a dishwasher for 2 weeks and you think you know how to set lines or what?

    ............and yet another reply from one of the grown ups in here.  What a douche.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawky:



    so you were a dishwasher for 2 weeks and you think you know how to set lines or what?

    ............and yet another reply from one of the grown ups in here.  What a douche.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2017 - 9:38 AM ET #63

    Posted: 11/27/2017 8:53:29 AM
    Another Las Vegas casino worker here. I can also tell you that Vegas has nothing to do with the outcome of the football games, truth is the books do not generate much money towards the overall profit of a casino. Some books have allowed private companies like William Hill set up shop because it isn't as lucrative as you may think. Not every weekend in Vegas is Super Bowl weekend.

    Also, table games on a Tuesday can take in as much or more money than a Sunday afternoon in the Sports Book. The book tries to find a number that draws wagers on both sides that even out, making money on losing wagers while making 10% on paying out winning wagers. They also make their money on parlays, because those are "sucker" bets. Anyone who has access to a Sports Book or a casino's P&L report can tell you this. 

    Sometimes, you just lose your bets. Sometimes, you get a bad beat. It happens to the books too.


    We have another winner. 
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    Posted: 11/27/2017 8:53:29 AM
    Another Las Vegas casino worker here. I can also tell you that Vegas has nothing to do with the outcome of the football games, truth is the books do not generate much money towards the overall profit of a casino. Some books have allowed private companies like William Hill set up shop because it isn't as lucrative as you may think. Not every weekend in Vegas is Super Bowl weekend.

    Also, table games on a Tuesday can take in as much or more money than a Sunday afternoon in the Sports Book. The book tries to find a number that draws wagers on both sides that even out, making money on losing wagers while making 10% on paying out winning wagers. They also make their money on parlays, because those are "sucker" bets. Anyone who has access to a Sports Book or a casino's P&L report can tell you this. 

    Sometimes, you just lose your bets. Sometimes, you get a bad beat. It happens to the books too.


    We have another winner. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2017 - 9:39 AM ET #64

    Quote Originally Posted by S_A_I_N_T_S:



    The biggest moneymaker in LV casinos will always be Slots. after that comes Video Poker. sports betting is very small potatoes by comparison for LV casinos. Parlays and teasers are profitable for LV casinos, but that's nothing when compared to the amount of slot machine losers that hit the casinos hourly.  

    offshore books are a different story. They make much more money off losers betting on sports. This is why they offer bonuses and have rollovers b/c most will lose long before the rollover is fulfilled. 

    They are two completely different business models. 

    Ditto for this one as well.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by S_A_I_N_T_S:



    The biggest moneymaker in LV casinos will always be Slots. after that comes Video Poker. sports betting is very small potatoes by comparison for LV casinos. Parlays and teasers are profitable for LV casinos, but that's nothing when compared to the amount of slot machine losers that hit the casinos hourly.  

    offshore books are a different story. They make much more money off losers betting on sports. This is why they offer bonuses and have rollovers b/c most will lose long before the rollover is fulfilled. 

    They are two completely different business models. 

    Ditto for this one as well.  
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2017 - 10:37 AM ET #65

    The backlash the NFL would get if it came out that Vegas had an imprint on the outcome of some of these games.....

    I do believe in crooked refs, or refs making a game close for ratings. But not vegas having anything to do with it..

    Vegas got crushed this week on Favorites covering. One game isn't going to make a difference in their pocket. Chiefs and Steelers are the only games they made out on got crushed on all the rest!!


    Now as cappers we have to adjust.. look for some inflated lines on the favorites going forward... vegas has to adjust because they can't keep giving out these cupcake lines on these favorites. I'm hoping to be getting some juicy dogs in the last 4-5 weeks!! 
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    The backlash the NFL would get if it came out that Vegas had an imprint on the outcome of some of these games.....

    I do believe in crooked refs, or refs making a game close for ratings. But not vegas having anything to do with it..

    Vegas got crushed this week on Favorites covering. One game isn't going to make a difference in their pocket. Chiefs and Steelers are the only games they made out on got crushed on all the rest!!


    Now as cappers we have to adjust.. look for some inflated lines on the favorites going forward... vegas has to adjust because they can't keep giving out these cupcake lines on these favorites. I'm hoping to be getting some juicy dogs in the last 4-5 weeks!! 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2017 - 10:38 AM ET #66

    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:

    Vegas makes 2-3% of their profits from sportsbetting....they could careless about sporting events....they make more in 1 hrs off slot machines than a week of "fixed" sporting events 
     

    Yep, 2-3% is all they make on sports. These crying idiots lose a bet and cry "fix" every time. 
    Histrionic personality disorder. It's sad
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    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:

    Vegas makes 2-3% of their profits from sportsbetting....they could careless about sporting events....they make more in 1 hrs off slot machines than a week of "fixed" sporting events 
     

    Yep, 2-3% is all they make on sports. These crying idiots lose a bet and cry "fix" every time. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2017 - 10:40 AM ET #67

    Also, I had Pittsburgh as the last leg in about 6 different 13 point teasers..

    I don't care what two teams are playing each other, I wouldn't lay 14+ against any team. THe nfl has proven to be 70% of games end within 1 score. So shame on anyone taking Shittsburgh minus the points.. they always play down to their competition. Wise up and cap a game better
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    Also, I had Pittsburgh as the last leg in about 6 different 13 point teasers..

    I don't care what two teams are playing each other, I wouldn't lay 14+ against any team. THe nfl has proven to be 70% of games end within 1 score. So shame on anyone taking Shittsburgh minus the points.. they always play down to their competition. Wise up and cap a game better
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2017 - 10:41 AM ET #68

    Again - Anyone who thinks all of these games are fixed! STOP BETTING!

    Only a complete idiot would bet on a sport they think is fixed!

    Can a game be fixed? Have some games been fixed? Yep. But the way you cry babies act, every game there is someone screaming "FIXED"


    Histrionic personality disorder. It's sad
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    Again - Anyone who thinks all of these games are fixed! STOP BETTING!

    Only a complete idiot would bet on a sport they think is fixed!

    Can a game be fixed? Have some games been fixed? Yep. But the way you cry babies act, every game there is someone screaming "FIXED"


     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2017 - 10:58 AM ET #69

    Quote Originally Posted by EagesCoast:

    Also, I had Pittsburgh as the last leg in about 6 different 13 point teasers..

    I don't care what two teams are playing each other, I wouldn't lay 14+ against any team. THe nfl has proven to be 70% of games end within 1 score. So shame on anyone taking Shittsburgh minus the points.. they always play down to their competition. Wise up and cap a game better
    Where are you pulling 70% of the games finishing within one score? Of the 170 plus games played this year so far. 95 have finished with two scores or more

    I agree that 14+ points is too many though
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    Quote Originally Posted by EagesCoast:

    Also, I had Pittsburgh as the last leg in about 6 different 13 point teasers..

    I don't care what two teams are playing each other, I wouldn't lay 14+ against any team. THe nfl has proven to be 70% of games end within 1 score. So shame on anyone taking Shittsburgh minus the points.. they always play down to their competition. Wise up and cap a game better
    Where are you pulling 70% of the games finishing within one score? Of the 170 plus games played this year so far. 95 have finished with two scores or more

    I agree that 14+ points is too many though
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2017 - 11:12 AM ET #70

    This is the state of our world? Reading though this thread makes me wonder how civilization has advanced thru the years.  IM SERIOUS! Give your heads a shake people.  My God.  It is absolutely insane to believe Vegas has "THE FIX" in on Games.  You do realize that sports in general does leave room for some UNPREDICTABILITY?????  Otherwise would you still watch? Would you still gamble? NO!!!! Because you would always know the outcome you MORONS....Their would be NO BETTING,NO BOOKS,NO LEAGUES,NO TEAMS,NO PLAYING OF ANY KIND!!!!! Oh gee I guess the Best team is always gonna win......HELLO MORONS HELLO.

    You know hat Vegas cares about most?????PENNY SLOTS!!!!! 

    Not SportsBetting, Not Table Games, Def not Poker, And of all the slots....it's not high limit, it is the penny slots, where they make the most money.   
    MIC DROP ......  BOOOOOOM


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    This is the state of our world? Reading though this thread makes me wonder how civilization has advanced thru the years.  IM SERIOUS! Give your heads a shake people.  My God.  It is absolutely insane to believe Vegas has "THE FIX" in on Games.  You do realize that sports in general does leave room for some UNPREDICTABILITY?????  Otherwise would you still watch? Would you still gamble? NO!!!! Because you would always know the outcome you MORONS....Their would be NO BETTING,NO BOOKS,NO LEAGUES,NO TEAMS,NO PLAYING OF ANY KIND!!!!! Oh gee I guess the Best team is always gonna win......HELLO MORONS HELLO.

    You know hat Vegas cares about most?????PENNY SLOTS!!!!! 

    Not SportsBetting, Not Table Games, Def not Poker, And of all the slots....it's not high limit, it is the penny slots, where they make the most money.   
    MIC DROP ......  BOOOOOOM


     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2017 - 11:13 AM ET #71

    God Bless all of you.
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    God Bless all of you.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2017 - 11:20 AM ET #72

    Yep St2ee 
    Histrionic personality disorder. It's sad
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    Yep St2ee 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2017 - 11:21 AM ET #73

    Quote Originally Posted by bjsteel34:


    The line tonight just screamed everyone taking Pitt


    I felt opposite. Didn't feel the Steelers should be -14. Yes Hundley kinda sucks but Green Bay still has some talent and aren't just gonna quit on the season. Getting 14 points for Green Bay was solid and the Packers played ok  

    As for Vegas having a fix in it, no. They make the money on slots and table games, these places are crowded hourly with people that come to Las Vegas just for that. The money that is made daily in the casino crushes any daily sportsbook revenue by a lot  


    If you say "others" having a say I would agree. Lots of crooked refs out there and you can't tell me some college kids uncle is telling his star nephew in NCAAB to have an off game so his team doesn't cover by -19. I think the NBA is the most corrupt of all and Tim Donahey is why 
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    Quote Originally Posted by bjsteel34:


    The line tonight just screamed everyone taking Pitt


    I felt opposite. Didn't feel the Steelers should be -14. Yes Hundley kinda sucks but Green Bay still has some talent and aren't just gonna quit on the season. Getting 14 points for Green Bay was solid and the Packers played ok  

    As for Vegas having a fix in it, no. They make the money on slots and table games, these places are crowded hourly with people that come to Las Vegas just for that. The money that is made daily in the casino crushes any daily sportsbook revenue by a lot  


    If you say "others" having a say I would agree. Lots of crooked refs out there and you can't tell me some college kids uncle is telling his star nephew in NCAAB to have an off game so his team doesn't cover by -19. I think the NBA is the most corrupt of all and Tim Donahey is why 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2017 - 11:24 AM ET #74

    Vegas don't care who wins!!! They get paid juice on either side

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    Vegas don't care who wins!!! They get paid juice on either side

     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2017 - 11:34 AM ET #75

    I am still waiting for the first clown to show me proof that someone is fixing games in the NFL. 

    We read from these losers each week how the fix is in with not one ounce of proof.  Has anyone ever been indicted?  Has anyone been caught?  The answer is no.  Stop betting if you think it's fixed.

    It's like you idiots all know you are being scammed and you keep giving money to the scammers.  Can it get anymore stupid.

    I have yet to hear even ONE of you losers complain about a fixed game when the dog doesn't cover.  Gee I wonder why?  

    Has Vegas ever been caught fixing NFL games?  No
    Have NFL players ever been caught fixing games?  No
    Have owners ever been caught fixing NFL games? No


    Wake up stooges!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    I am still waiting for the first clown to show me proof that someone is fixing games in the NFL. 

    We read from these losers each week how the fix is in with not one ounce of proof.  Has anyone ever been indicted?  Has anyone been caught?  The answer is no.  Stop betting if you think it's fixed.

    It's like you idiots all know you are being scammed and you keep giving money to the scammers.  Can it get anymore stupid.

    I have yet to hear even ONE of you losers complain about a fixed game when the dog doesn't cover.  Gee I wonder why?  

    Has Vegas ever been caught fixing NFL games?  No
    Have NFL players ever been caught fixing games?  No
    Have owners ever been caught fixing NFL games? No


    Wake up stooges!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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