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    Has NE already lost the SB even if they haven't?

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    JDaws012
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2015 - 1:50 AM ET #51

    Couldn't agree more. Its tough to think that the NFL would "allow" the Patriots to win the Super Bowl. After the Ray Rice stuff, they are going to be very critical with the outcome of their intended punishments. All of these distractions will build up on the Pats. Plus, I would never put my money on a cheater! 
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    Couldn't agree more. Its tough to think that the NFL would "allow" the Patriots to win the Super Bowl. After the Ray Rice stuff, they are going to be very critical with the outcome of their intended punishments. All of these distractions will build up on the Pats. Plus, I would never put my money on a cheater! 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2015 - 2:12 AM ET #52

    Couldn't agree more. Its tough to think that the NFL would "allow" the Patriots to win the Super Bowl. After the Ray Rice stuff, they are going to be very critical with the outcome of their intended punishments. All of these distractions will build up on the Pats. Plus, I would never put my money on a cheater! .....................So what you are saying is that the NFL will not allow the Super Bowl to be won by the Patriots????.....so basically bet Seattle ML.......it's that simple...
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    Couldn't agree more. Its tough to think that the NFL would "allow" the Patriots to win the Super Bowl. After the Ray Rice stuff, they are going to be very critical with the outcome of their intended punishments. All of these distractions will build up on the Pats. Plus, I would never put my money on a cheater! .....................So what you are saying is that the NFL will not allow the Super Bowl to be won by the Patriots????.....so basically bet Seattle ML.......it's that simple...
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2015 - 3:15 PM ET #53

    BeginnerBoy

    You just need this crap to try to justify your big Seattle play, and are praying for it all to be true.  Like yelling "Pats must lose now" is going to help you win.
    The reverse is true.  Big Bill said all he's going to say, there hasn't been any confirmation of your "facts" from the NFL, and you're now going against the most pissed-off football team in history.
    You keep spewing your garbage and forgetting the bigger this gets, the more it motivates the Pats to crush the Chickens.
    So quit whining and realize your money has wings.  Say goodbye to it.     
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    BeginnerBoy

    You just need this crap to try to justify your big Seattle play, and are praying for it all to be true.  Like yelling "Pats must lose now" is going to help you win.
    The reverse is true.  Big Bill said all he's going to say, there hasn't been any confirmation of your "facts" from the NFL, and you're now going against the most pissed-off football team in history.
    You keep spewing your garbage and forgetting the bigger this gets, the more it motivates the Pats to crush the Chickens.
    So quit whining and realize your money has wings.  Say goodbye to it.     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2015 - 3:25 PM ET #54

    And BTW, cheating with PEDs is a lot more serious than deflating footballs (if the Pats even did it).  And the NFL agrees.
    PED use (like all illegal drugs) hurt people and can get them thrown in jail, so to say its less serious is just ridiculous.
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    And BTW, cheating with PEDs is a lot more serious than deflating footballs (if the Pats even did it).  And the NFL agrees.
    PED use (like all illegal drugs) hurt people and can get them thrown in jail, so to say its less serious is just ridiculous.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2015 - 3:35 PM ET #55

    Baby, you are a baby. Learn to read, man. I never brought up the PEDs or women getting abused or children. This thread is only about the psychological impact of deflategate and I do agree with you that this gives NE a motivational edge but will that be enough to overcome all the negatives (as outlined here)?
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    Baby, you are a baby. Learn to read, man. I never brought up the PEDs or women getting abused or children. This thread is only about the psychological impact of deflategate and I do agree with you that this gives NE a motivational edge but will that be enough to overcome all the negatives (as outlined here)?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2015 - 3:48 PM ET #56

    Quote Originally Posted by Baby_BA:

    BeginnerBoy

    You just need this crap to try to justify your big Seattle play, and are praying for it all to be true.  Like yelling "Pats must lose now" is going to help you win.
    The reverse is true.  Big Bill said all he's going to say, there hasn't been any confirmation of your "facts" from the NFL, and you're now going against the most pissed-off football team in history.
    You keep spewing your garbage and forgetting the bigger this gets, the more it motivates the Pats to crush the Chickens.
    So quit whining and realize your money has wings.  Say goodbye to it.     

     Brady's #s were BETTER in the 2nd half with the "correctly"
    inflated balls. Much ado about nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baby_BA:

    BeginnerBoy

    You just need this crap to try to justify your big Seattle play, and are praying for it all to be true.  Like yelling "Pats must lose now" is going to help you win.
    The reverse is true.  Big Bill said all he's going to say, there hasn't been any confirmation of your "facts" from the NFL, and you're now going against the most pissed-off football team in history.
    You keep spewing your garbage and forgetting the bigger this gets, the more it motivates the Pats to crush the Chickens.
    So quit whining and realize your money has wings.  Say goodbye to it.     

     Brady's #s were BETTER in the 2nd half with the "correctly"
    inflated balls. Much ado about nothing.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2015 - 4:14 PM ET #57

    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:

    Baby, you are a baby. Learn to read, man. I never brought up the PEDs or women getting abused or children. This thread is only about the psychological impact of deflategate and I do agree with you that this gives NE a motivational edge but will that be enough to overcome all the negatives (as outlined here)?


    On pg 1, when it was stated that Seahawks were cheating with PEDs last year, you said...   "comparing seattle using peds to this is absurd. this has taken over the entire news cycle. hello? please think before you write."

    Sure, this deflating B.S. has caught a lot of news cycles, but as far as "cheating" goes, the PEDs is lot more serious.  And your answer to that makes it sound like you're downplaying the PED cheating, right?

    Of course if I'm incorrect on your opinion, feel free to say that Seattle cheating with PEDs was much worse than this inflating B.S., and you have my apologies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:

    Baby, you are a baby. Learn to read, man. I never brought up the PEDs or women getting abused or children. This thread is only about the psychological impact of deflategate and I do agree with you that this gives NE a motivational edge but will that be enough to overcome all the negatives (as outlined here)?


    On pg 1, when it was stated that Seahawks were cheating with PEDs last year, you said...   "comparing seattle using peds to this is absurd. this has taken over the entire news cycle. hello? please think before you write."

    Sure, this deflating B.S. has caught a lot of news cycles, but as far as "cheating" goes, the PEDs is lot more serious.  And your answer to that makes it sound like you're downplaying the PED cheating, right?

    Of course if I'm incorrect on your opinion, feel free to say that Seattle cheating with PEDs was much worse than this inflating B.S., and you have my apologies.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2015 - 4:21 PM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by LogCottage:


     Brady's #s were BETTER in the 2nd half with the "correctly"
    inflated balls. Much ado about nothing.


    The real "much ado" is that the Pats haven't even been accused by the NFL, and the 11 of 12 footballs were deflated and Colts footballs were ok stories haven't been confirmed by anyone.  No proof of anything, but plenty of people are already calling for their heads, which no doubt is firing up the Pats.
    And I like it.  Between this and the Seahawks trash mouths the Pats will be focusing on nailing them.

    Probably should be thanking BeginnerBoy and all the other sheep for blowing this up and keeping it going....
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    Quote Originally Posted by LogCottage:


     Brady's #s were BETTER in the 2nd half with the "correctly"
    inflated balls. Much ado about nothing.


    The real "much ado" is that the Pats haven't even been accused by the NFL, and the 11 of 12 footballs were deflated and Colts footballs were ok stories haven't been confirmed by anyone.  No proof of anything, but plenty of people are already calling for their heads, which no doubt is firing up the Pats.
    And I like it.  Between this and the Seahawks trash mouths the Pats will be focusing on nailing them.

    Probably should be thanking BeginnerBoy and all the other sheep for blowing this up and keeping it going....
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2015 - 4:27 PM ET #59

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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2015 - 4:53 PM ET #60

    Reports indicate pats have not practiced and will not practice at all for this superbowl, they are now super sad and tired from testing footballs they just cant clear their minds enough to have a good practice. They have not talked about anything else but the extensive topic of deflated footballs and will now take a week off to clear their minds.

    Seattle ML HUGE!!! not because they are better or matchup well, but because theres no way a professional sports team could have properly trained with this complicated issue on their minds. Gronk lost 20 pounds the last 4 days
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    Reports indicate pats have not practiced and will not practice at all for this superbowl, they are now super sad and tired from testing footballs they just cant clear their minds enough to have a good practice. They have not talked about anything else but the extensive topic of deflated footballs and will now take a week off to clear their minds.

    Seattle ML HUGE!!! not because they are better or matchup well, but because theres no way a professional sports team could have properly trained with this complicated issue on their minds. Gronk lost 20 pounds the last 4 days
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2015 - 4:59 PM ET #61

    What actually is a begginer besides a misspelled word?
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    What actually is a begginer besides a misspelled word?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2015 - 5:32 PM ET #62

    Quote Originally Posted by charlielo55:

    Don't poke the bear

    NE 34

    Sea 14

    I am not impressed with this Seattle team at all. That is one the lamest offenses to ever play in a SB. They are not the best team in the NFC. More easy SB money, and by far my biggest wager of the year. GLTA!

    Same here.... New England crushes Seattle................

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlielo55:

    Don't poke the bear

    NE 34

    Sea 14

    I am not impressed with this Seattle team at all. That is one the lamest offenses to ever play in a SB. They are not the best team in the NFC. More easy SB money, and by far my biggest wager of the year. GLTA!

    Same here.... New England crushes Seattle................

     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2015 - 1:07 PM ET #63

    Good thoughts in the OP.

    I'm not even going to comment about the Xo's and O's as you and Suuma already did that at length.

    I know you are on the Hawks, and I also know we both do the overwhelming majority of our capping from the psychological angle.

    I posit the following:

    1) Outside of the one capper who noted that the deflated balls cause fewer fumbles, (and really), this is as the QB legends say it is, a QB manufactured controversy.

    In all likelihood, Brady caused all of this.

    So let's say Brady is the guilty party and only he and a ball boy know the balls were deflated.

    Every other member of the Pats, offense and defense, their talents and accomplishments, are undermined by Deflate-gate.

    That could only motivate more than they already would be having not won a SB in nearly 10 years to prove just the opposite on the largest of all public stages.

    2) Brady

    So we assume Brady is guilty.

    Of all the guys in the league who would want to prove they could still light it up (like Brady did in the second half with a regular ball against the Colts), Brady is at the top, if not number one.

    What I saw all year was this: A guy who would accept nothing less than perfection from his teammates, continually barking on camera at the smallest infractions that stalled Pats drives in key spots...a route that was run wrong, a bad snap, a holding penalty.

    And that fire emanated from one desire, the desire to finally win it all once again after the Giants (of all teams) dashed their hopes twice, once with the near greatest team in history.

    So to points 1 and 2, you have an entire Pats team that is not discouraged by Deflate-gate, but ENcouraged, all albeit, self-created.

    3) Repeating

    The hardest thing to do in all of the major sports in my opinion is to repeat in the SB. Even if you have the better team, and you are convinced the Hawks are (I am not), it is still the tallest of mountains to climb.

    And the Hawks face-off against the one team that was the most recent to accomplish just that.

    This is an extraordinary psychological mountain to overcome.

    I gotta go the other way on this one with an almost pure line, but as a Jets fan, I will have no problem losing money and watching the Pats lose.

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    Good thoughts in the OP.

    I'm not even going to comment about the Xo's and O's as you and Suuma already did that at length.

    I know you are on the Hawks, and I also know we both do the overwhelming majority of our capping from the psychological angle.

    I posit the following:

    1) Outside of the one capper who noted that the deflated balls cause fewer fumbles, (and really), this is as the QB legends say it is, a QB manufactured controversy.

    In all likelihood, Brady caused all of this.

    So let's say Brady is the guilty party and only he and a ball boy know the balls were deflated.

    Every other member of the Pats, offense and defense, their talents and accomplishments, are undermined by Deflate-gate.

    That could only motivate more than they already would be having not won a SB in nearly 10 years to prove just the opposite on the largest of all public stages.

    2) Brady

    So we assume Brady is guilty.

    Of all the guys in the league who would want to prove they could still light it up (like Brady did in the second half with a regular ball against the Colts), Brady is at the top, if not number one.

    What I saw all year was this: A guy who would accept nothing less than perfection from his teammates, continually barking on camera at the smallest infractions that stalled Pats drives in key spots...a route that was run wrong, a bad snap, a holding penalty.

    And that fire emanated from one desire, the desire to finally win it all once again after the Giants (of all teams) dashed their hopes twice, once with the near greatest team in history.

    So to points 1 and 2, you have an entire Pats team that is not discouraged by Deflate-gate, but ENcouraged, all albeit, self-created.

    3) Repeating

    The hardest thing to do in all of the major sports in my opinion is to repeat in the SB. Even if you have the better team, and you are convinced the Hawks are (I am not), it is still the tallest of mountains to climb.

    And the Hawks face-off against the one team that was the most recent to accomplish just that.

    This is an extraordinary psychological mountain to overcome.

    I gotta go the other way on this one with an almost pure line, but as a Jets fan, I will have no problem losing money and watching the Pats lose.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2015 - 11:10 PM ET #64

    Looks like they cheated their way to the SB (according to you), and then beat the so-called best defense in football.  Maybe tomorrow you can blame the refs or something.
    So glad to see the Pats prevailed.   
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    Looks like they cheated their way to the SB (according to you), and then beat the so-called best defense in football.  Maybe tomorrow you can blame the refs or something.
    So glad to see the Pats prevailed.   
     
     
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    at the end its just gambling!

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    at the end its just gambling!

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