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    GIANTS @ REDSKINS: It's rare that I say I'm not worried about a cover at all but...I'm not worried.

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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2016 - 3:44 PM ET #26

    Good luck my friend. I always just blindly fade the favorites in Week 17 that "have" to win. Seems to win year in and year out. I would prefer the Redskins being playing a dead team like the Eagles or Cardinals that would just play straight up. You're right it's gonna be mostly backups but I've always loved this angle in week 17.
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    Good luck my friend. I always just blindly fade the favorites in Week 17 that "have" to win. Seems to win year in and year out. I would prefer the Redskins being playing a dead team like the Eagles or Cardinals that would just play straight up. You're right it's gonna be mostly backups but I've always loved this angle in week 17.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2016 - 3:47 PM ET #27

    suppose sharp money is on red skins  can someone is explain what is sharp to lay a 7.5 or 8 point favorite vs team with a better record then the home team and clearly better overall team.they have to win this game to be in the play off it does not mean they gonna .sharps my ...
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    suppose sharp money is on red skins  can someone is explain what is sharp to lay a 7.5 or 8 point favorite vs team with a better record then the home team and clearly better overall team.they have to win this game to be in the play off it does not mean they gonna .sharps my ...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2016 - 5:06 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    Thanks Jrod but I know trolls (yourself and others and you've done more than your fair share/not on the level of Hugh and Jdr of course, who are at all time highs) tail me.

    That is why trolls get so pissed off at losses. Why else would you care????

    So trolls defame picks, and all the while, they are playing those very same picks. Amazing isn't it???


    Well yes I've disagreed with some of your picks at times and I've been wrong. No disrespect just disagree at times. Nonetheless this play looks golden, I'm tailing for sure gl 
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    Thanks Jrod but I know trolls (yourself and others and you've done more than your fair share/not on the level of Hugh and Jdr of course, who are at all time highs) tail me.

    That is why trolls get so pissed off at losses. Why else would you care????

    So trolls defame picks, and all the while, they are playing those very same picks. Amazing isn't it???


    Well yes I've disagreed with some of your picks at times and I've been wrong. No disrespect just disagree at times. Nonetheless this play looks golden, I'm tailing for sure gl 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    2016 Record: 36-21

    The Pick:

    Redskins - 7.5 over Giants

    Lay the points. I know you're afraid of the .5 point and if you want to buy it down to 7, it's actually one of the only times I'd say it's allowed. But I'm not here to post -130 favorites. I will lay the 7.5.

    This line is all driven by McAdoo. He says he will play the starters.

    Folks, for all the good this guy has done this year he is still a rookie coach making a rookie mistake. He wants to appear competitive in the face of a worthless game to the Giants (outside of a tune-up) but as soon as Eli gets sacked he should be pulled to forgo injury risk of any kind, especially after Mariota and Carr going down in one week. End of story. And the same for ODB who will be hounded by Josh Norman all day anyway (and forget injury, a suspension is possible with these two going at it).

    This is insane. He can't play the starters for anything more than a quarter and at most a half in a meaningless game and I expect the Skins to come out firing in the first quarter anyway with all that's on the line.

    How can you tell me a defense (who has down one of it's top guys in JPP), is going to play full bore for 4 quarters with all starters?

    In a meaningless game. And this all only costs us 7.5 points? At home? Where the Giants, of their 5 losses, have lost 4 on the road. The teams they lost to? Paper tigers: Vikings (under .500), Packers (When they were struggling mightily), Eagles (with the playoffs on the line and then they backed in), and the Steelers.

    This is not the same team as it was on the road.

    And the Skins? You may have visions of the Skins team last year who you felt were illegitimate playoff participants. This is a completely different team than last year. And the stats prove it.

    Redskins played TWO playoff teams last year in the regular season and were outscored: 106-44.

    This year, they played SEVEN playoff teams and were almost dead even in scoring at: 177-169.

    Last year was one of the weakest NFC East divisions:

    4-12 Cowboys, 6-10 Giants, 7-9 Eagles.

    This year? 13-2 Cowboys, 10 win Giant team and a competitive up and coming Eagles team who are a tough out.

    "But Scal, the Pass Defense is terrible!!"

    Yes it is, but again, Eli will not play this whole game so you should have Josh Johnson coming in at some point (NOT Nassib who many here know as Eli's backup but he's had elbow surgery 10 days ago).

    The last time Johnson threw a pass in the NFL?

    12/11/2011. I'm serious.

    If he comes in, the Giants already have a very weak running game with Paul Perkins as their primary in front of Jennings.

    So even if Eli stays in, the Skins have played good/decent to top flight QB's this year (unlike last year): Dak twice/Wentz twice/Eli/Stafford/Palmer/Dalton/Newton/Flacco.

    Now you see why their pass defense gets shredded? And this team has nine wins!

    And they easily could have 11: A missed 34 yard FG in London. And the other game which some here don't remember and it was worse: Up 17-13, they let the Lions score a TD in 73 seconds over a nearly a full football field.

    And now for the whopper.

    Remember we took Penn State to beat Wisconsin and I said that THIS Penn State team would never be the same. The momentum it built, it's defense, it's QB/RB combo, it's resurrection from the Paterno scandal, Franklin's resurgence. All of that or almost all that goes away in a new season. That was one reason why we took them. They were a special team.

    We get that magic with the Skins and it only comes around once in Halley's Comet flyby with the Skins.

    Simply put, this is one of the great offensive teams the Skins have ever had.

    How good? They rank third in total yards in the NFL.

    How often has that happened? 5 times.

    1999, 1991, 1984, 1983, 1966 since WORLD WAR II. This kind of offensive production is happening once or twice a decade (and skipping several other decades completely).

    THAT is why we lay 7.5 here boys. This is unique offensive force for the Skins to cover a bigger number which we need to do here.

    All the pieces are here for a cover and we will call McAdoo's bluff. He'll play his hand in the first quarter and almost certainly the second but again, if the Skins get to Eli you have to sit him. And his backup hasn't seen a receiver in half a decade.

    The Skins have EVERYTHING to play for. This is one of the most valuable franchises in the NFL with one of the cockiest owners and are playoff starved for a win there. But get there first. And although the Giants have been impressive, they unraveled last week against the Skins as road favorites and get penalized here as 7.5 dogs. This will be an inexcusable loss and shouldn't be close. Skins exploded for 40+ last week as 6 point favorites over the Bears and this is the same Skins team that dropped 40+ on the resurgent Packers.

    One final note: A guy who always burns the Giants, Desean Jackson, is coming on strong to end the season. Total receiving yards in the last 5 games: 114, 111, 102, 59, 118.

    There's enough here for a cover. McAdoo with feign aggression and fold his hand when the chips are down in the second half and we pull away. I absolutely do not see the Giants winning this game and eliminating the Skins (a win and their in scenario if not for a GB/Det tie) so 7.5 is not a ton of points at home otherwise. And the Skins beat them in Week 4 when they were 0-3 and the Giants were 2-0 (they have their number this year imo). I look for the Skins to play pedal to the medal the entire game.



    So, you write a whole term paper thesis on why the Redskins will win, and fail to mention that the Packers/Lions Primetime "Game Of The Week" - the one that's been hyped since last Sunday - would be completely meaningless playoff-wise if the Redskins lose? Yes, the division is on the line, but if it started to become a rout one way or the other, starters will get pulled knowing they both have to play next week anyways.....

    Anyways, Gimme's prediction:

    Redskins 27
    Giants 20

    Redskins will have the ball first & ten on the Giants' 20 yard line with 1:40 left in the game, then Scal will scream:

    "WHHHHHHYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!"

    As Kirk Cousins takes 3 kneel-downs, ends the game, and Scal loses by the hook.....

    Good Luck!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    2016 Record: 36-21

    The Pick:

    Redskins - 7.5 over Giants

    Lay the points. I know you're afraid of the .5 point and if you want to buy it down to 7, it's actually one of the only times I'd say it's allowed. But I'm not here to post -130 favorites. I will lay the 7.5.

    This line is all driven by McAdoo. He says he will play the starters.

    Folks, for all the good this guy has done this year he is still a rookie coach making a rookie mistake. He wants to appear competitive in the face of a worthless game to the Giants (outside of a tune-up) but as soon as Eli gets sacked he should be pulled to forgo injury risk of any kind, especially after Mariota and Carr going down in one week. End of story. And the same for ODB who will be hounded by Josh Norman all day anyway (and forget injury, a suspension is possible with these two going at it).

    This is insane. He can't play the starters for anything more than a quarter and at most a half in a meaningless game and I expect the Skins to come out firing in the first quarter anyway with all that's on the line.

    How can you tell me a defense (who has down one of it's top guys in JPP), is going to play full bore for 4 quarters with all starters?

    In a meaningless game. And this all only costs us 7.5 points? At home? Where the Giants, of their 5 losses, have lost 4 on the road. The teams they lost to? Paper tigers: Vikings (under .500), Packers (When they were struggling mightily), Eagles (with the playoffs on the line and then they backed in), and the Steelers.

    This is not the same team as it was on the road.

    And the Skins? You may have visions of the Skins team last year who you felt were illegitimate playoff participants. This is a completely different team than last year. And the stats prove it.

    Redskins played TWO playoff teams last year in the regular season and were outscored: 106-44.

    This year, they played SEVEN playoff teams and were almost dead even in scoring at: 177-169.

    Last year was one of the weakest NFC East divisions:

    4-12 Cowboys, 6-10 Giants, 7-9 Eagles.

    This year? 13-2 Cowboys, 10 win Giant team and a competitive up and coming Eagles team who are a tough out.

    "But Scal, the Pass Defense is terrible!!"

    Yes it is, but again, Eli will not play this whole game so you should have Josh Johnson coming in at some point (NOT Nassib who many here know as Eli's backup but he's had elbow surgery 10 days ago).

    The last time Johnson threw a pass in the NFL?

    12/11/2011. I'm serious.

    If he comes in, the Giants already have a very weak running game with Paul Perkins as their primary in front of Jennings.

    So even if Eli stays in, the Skins have played good/decent to top flight QB's this year (unlike last year): Dak twice/Wentz twice/Eli/Stafford/Palmer/Dalton/Newton/Flacco.

    Now you see why their pass defense gets shredded? And this team has nine wins!

    And they easily could have 11: A missed 34 yard FG in London. And the other game which some here don't remember and it was worse: Up 17-13, they let the Lions score a TD in 73 seconds over a nearly a full football field.

    And now for the whopper.

    Remember we took Penn State to beat Wisconsin and I said that THIS Penn State team would never be the same. The momentum it built, it's defense, it's QB/RB combo, it's resurrection from the Paterno scandal, Franklin's resurgence. All of that or almost all that goes away in a new season. That was one reason why we took them. They were a special team.

    We get that magic with the Skins and it only comes around once in Halley's Comet flyby with the Skins.

    Simply put, this is one of the great offensive teams the Skins have ever had.

    How good? They rank third in total yards in the NFL.

    How often has that happened? 5 times.

    1999, 1991, 1984, 1983, 1966 since WORLD WAR II. This kind of offensive production is happening once or twice a decade (and skipping several other decades completely).

    THAT is why we lay 7.5 here boys. This is unique offensive force for the Skins to cover a bigger number which we need to do here.

    All the pieces are here for a cover and we will call McAdoo's bluff. He'll play his hand in the first quarter and almost certainly the second but again, if the Skins get to Eli you have to sit him. And his backup hasn't seen a receiver in half a decade.

    The Skins have EVERYTHING to play for. This is one of the most valuable franchises in the NFL with one of the cockiest owners and are playoff starved for a win there. But get there first. And although the Giants have been impressive, they unraveled last week against the Skins as road favorites and get penalized here as 7.5 dogs. This will be an inexcusable loss and shouldn't be close. Skins exploded for 40+ last week as 6 point favorites over the Bears and this is the same Skins team that dropped 40+ on the resurgent Packers.

    One final note: A guy who always burns the Giants, Desean Jackson, is coming on strong to end the season. Total receiving yards in the last 5 games: 114, 111, 102, 59, 118.

    There's enough here for a cover. McAdoo with feign aggression and fold his hand when the chips are down in the second half and we pull away. I absolutely do not see the Giants winning this game and eliminating the Skins (a win and their in scenario if not for a GB/Det tie) so 7.5 is not a ton of points at home otherwise. And the Skins beat them in Week 4 when they were 0-3 and the Giants were 2-0 (they have their number this year imo). I look for the Skins to play pedal to the medal the entire game.



    So, you write a whole term paper thesis on why the Redskins will win, and fail to mention that the Packers/Lions Primetime "Game Of The Week" - the one that's been hyped since last Sunday - would be completely meaningless playoff-wise if the Redskins lose? Yes, the division is on the line, but if it started to become a rout one way or the other, starters will get pulled knowing they both have to play next week anyways.....

    Anyways, Gimme's prediction:

    Redskins 27
    Giants 20

    Redskins will have the ball first & ten on the Giants' 20 yard line with 1:40 left in the game, then Scal will scream:

    "WHHHHHHYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!"

    As Kirk Cousins takes 3 kneel-downs, ends the game, and Scal loses by the hook.....

    Good Luck!!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2016 - 6:47 PM ET #30

    You have no idea what you are talking about. I'm not betting the packers lions and whether it has playoff implications. I'm betting a win and they're in scenario against a team that has been taking local heat in the media for playing its starters.

    You're clueless.

    So you're taking the Giants +the points. See ya after the game with this one. 
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    You have no idea what you are talking about. I'm not betting the packers lions and whether it has playoff implications. I'm betting a win and they're in scenario against a team that has been taking local heat in the media for playing its starters.

    You're clueless.

    So you're taking the Giants +the points. See ya after the game with this one. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2016 - 6:49 PM ET #31

    @T6- Every team that "has" to win in sunday can lose. I only care about this one situation in that spot.
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    @T6- Every team that "has" to win in sunday can lose. I only care about this one situation in that spot.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2016 - 7:19 PM ET #32

    You been cold lately bro but GL. Appreciate reading though.
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    You been cold lately bro but GL. Appreciate reading though.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by manfisheat:

    You been cold lately bro but GL. Appreciate reading though.

    Just won with Nunes as a +135 dog last night that I capped for a month. Start of something good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by manfisheat:

    You been cold lately bro but GL. Appreciate reading though.

    Just won with Nunes as a +135 dog last night that I capped for a month. Start of something good.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2016 - 8:47 PM ET #34

    I hate that term FOLKS . Makes me think of that asswipe in Washington. 
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2016 - 9:19 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    I hate that term FOLKS . Makes me think of that asswipe in Washington. 

    To each his own. The word has been around for 300 years. It's not someone's in Washington.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    I hate that term FOLKS . Makes me think of that asswipe in Washington. 

    To each his own. The word has been around for 300 years. It's not someone's in Washington.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2016 - 9:20 PM ET #36

    good stuff as always scal.. i've learned my lesson fading you.. no more. you da man.
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    good stuff as always scal.. i've learned my lesson fading you.. no more. you da man.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2016 - 10:08 PM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by stevebaily6:

    Giants better rest their starters, it would be stupid not to. Raiders also resting starters so play on Denver


    Why would the Raiders rest there starters? They win in Denver, they win the West and get a first round bye...They lose and KC wins, KC wins the west.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevebaily6:

    Giants better rest their starters, it would be stupid not to. Raiders also resting starters so play on Denver


    Why would the Raiders rest there starters? They win in Denver, they win the West and get a first round bye...They lose and KC wins, KC wins the west.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dtjam76:



    Why would the Raiders rest there starters? They win in Denver, they win the West and get a first round bye...They lose and KC wins, KC wins the west.
      Their...
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    Why would the Raiders rest there starters? They win in Denver, they win the West and get a first round bye...They lose and KC wins, KC wins the west.
      Their...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2016 - 10:17 PM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by Guitarplayerguy:

    Even if washington wins they will NOT cover this spread, NY giants is the easiest play this Sunday.  See you Sunday 

    Should we THANK YOU now guitarboy...or later...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitarplayerguy:

    Even if washington wins they will NOT cover this spread, NY giants is the easiest play this Sunday.  See you Sunday 

    Should we THANK YOU now guitarboy...or later...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2016 - 11:54 PM ET #40

    Redskins are gonna win by more than 10...It's basically a home playoff game, lose and they are done. Here's to a good start to 2017 
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    Redskins are gonna win by more than 10...It's basically a home playoff game, lose and they are done. Here's to a good start to 2017 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2017 - 12:05 AM ET #41

    skin suck aint going no where , happy new year
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2017 - 12:24 AM ET #42

    interesting, will keep tabs
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    interesting, will keep tabs
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2017 - 12:36 AM ET #43

    Hey scal ,I'm loving washington even if the line goes to -10  don't see how and why wld giants be competitive in this game at all. Anyways byntht being said would you then take greenbay
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    Hey scal ,I'm loving washington even if the line goes to -10  don't see how and why wld giants be competitive in this game at all. Anyways byntht being said would you then take greenbay
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2017 - 12:43 AM ET #44

    love washingotn its not even about eli its the defensive starters who will be out or out when the washtiong scores.  janoris jenkins is questionable no way they play him....harrison and the lb will be out also....eli might start but after they go down theyll take him out quick.  
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    love washingotn its not even about eli its the defensive starters who will be out or out when the washtiong scores.  janoris jenkins is questionable no way they play him....harrison and the lb will be out also....eli might start but after they go down theyll take him out quick.  
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2017 - 12:45 AM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:

    Much of your argument is that the Giants will pull their starters.
    You made that argument right after your sentence that reads ... "This line is all driven by McAdoo. He says he will play the starters"

    That's certainly a new angle 


     I love the "This is a different Skins team" guess he didn't see the Monday night game debacle at home vs Carolina in what was just about a must win game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:

    Much of your argument is that the Giants will pull their starters.
    You made that argument right after your sentence that reads ... "This line is all driven by McAdoo. He says he will play the starters"

    That's certainly a new angle 


     I love the "This is a different Skins team" guess he didn't see the Monday night game debacle at home vs Carolina in what was just about a must win game.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2017 - 1:48 AM ET #46

    this would have been a tough game even if it meant something for the g-men.  this a play on washington or nuttin imo.  foolish to bet on the g-men..even w/ the high number
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    this would have been a tough game even if it meant something for the g-men.  this a play on washington or nuttin imo.  foolish to bet on the g-men..even w/ the high number
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2017 - 1:52 AM ET #47

    Interesting write up and yes I agree Skins -7 BOL


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    Interesting write up and yes I agree Skins -7 BOL


     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2017 - 2:27 AM ET #48

    That's a big line move jumping from under 7 to over 7. I like it.
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2017 - 8:31 AM ET #49

    Good luck, Scal. Good writeup. Whoops, I guess I"m a sheep now.
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2017 - 8:39 AM ET #50

    The only angle that works for me is that GB/DET game is meaningless if Cousins loses.

    It's money first, as always for these greedy men in suits.

    I agree Skinz will win for sure but will they cover?
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    The only angle that works for me is that GB/DET game is meaningless if Cousins loses.

    It's money first, as always for these greedy men in suits.

    I agree Skinz will win for sure but will they cover?
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