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    And, now you bang the Giants

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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2010 - 11:04 AM ET #76

    Quote Originally Posted by Stuckey:

    It's -3 as I thought.

    Obviously meant a 3-0 Bears team.

    I will also be on 49ers, Skins, Ravens, Dolphins and Browns.

    Looks like 4-2 at worst to me.

    i like most of those but i think singletary may have already lost his team and its a horrible spot for them to boot, a b2b roadie with a west coast team on an early start on the east coast. like the giants though and probably the over in that one if the weather is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuckey:

    It's -3 as I thought.

    Obviously meant a 3-0 Bears team.

    I will also be on 49ers, Skins, Ravens, Dolphins and Browns.

    Looks like 4-2 at worst to me.

    i like most of those but i think singletary may have already lost his team and its a horrible spot for them to boot, a b2b roadie with a west coast team on an early start on the east coast. like the giants though and probably the over in that one if the weather is good.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2010 - 11:24 AM ET #77

    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeHitter:

    I wouldn't bang the giants if they were passed out on GHB

    Must be a fellow Giants fan.  Their DLine gets zero pressure, secondary is comical.  Special teams suck all the way around.  All they can do is stop the run.  Jacobs is shot, they can throw the ball but make to many errors in the redzone which is what bad teams do.  Cutler will have a field day against that defense.

    Giants may feel like a sharp play on Tuesday morning but come Sunday night they will be the square pick of the day.  Everyone and I mean everyone will be on the Giants.  Most people think the Bears got lucky vs GB.  The only people who will be on the Bears are contrarian and public faders.   The Giants may cover but they will be far from a sharp play 10 minutes before kickoff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeHitter:

    I wouldn't bang the giants if they were passed out on GHB

    Must be a fellow Giants fan.  Their DLine gets zero pressure, secondary is comical.  Special teams suck all the way around.  All they can do is stop the run.  Jacobs is shot, they can throw the ball but make to many errors in the redzone which is what bad teams do.  Cutler will have a field day against that defense.

    Giants may feel like a sharp play on Tuesday morning but come Sunday night they will be the square pick of the day.  Everyone and I mean everyone will be on the Giants.  Most people think the Bears got lucky vs GB.  The only people who will be on the Bears are contrarian and public faders.   The Giants may cover but they will be far from a sharp play 10 minutes before kickoff.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2010 - 11:27 AM ET #78

    In Eli's defense, practically every INT is  deflected off a WR's hands - MAnnigham and Nicks are trying to make a move before they have the ball


    over might be a good play too
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    In Eli's defense, practically every INT is  deflected off a WR's hands - MAnnigham and Nicks are trying to make a move before they have the ball


    over might be a good play too
     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2010 - 11:39 AM ET #79

    Quote Originally Posted by tsw:

    Bears are not a better team than Tennessee- Bears have basically been handed all 3 wins on a silver platter.

    This is the mindset of most people when they think of the Bears, no one takes them seriously.  They are lucky and Cutler sucks.  Come Sunday night that thought process won't change even a little in the minds of most gamblers.  The coach is still one of the worst in the league and they have far more issues than most of you realize.  Is there a more disgusting favorite over the years than the Giants? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsw:

    Bears are not a better team than Tennessee- Bears have basically been handed all 3 wins on a silver platter.

    This is the mindset of most people when they think of the Bears, no one takes them seriously.  They are lucky and Cutler sucks.  Come Sunday night that thought process won't change even a little in the minds of most gamblers.  The coach is still one of the worst in the league and they have far more issues than most of you realize.  Is there a more disgusting favorite over the years than the Giants? 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2010 - 11:43 AM ET #80

    Hester vs the worst special teams in the NFL.  Bears should have good field position all day.
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    Hester vs the worst special teams in the NFL.  Bears should have good field position all day.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2010 - 11:48 AM ET #81

    Quote Originally Posted by VegasMaxx:

    Hester vs the worst special teams in the NFL.  Bears should have good field position all day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasMaxx:

    Hester vs the worst special teams in the NFL.  Bears should have good field position all day.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2010 - 11:52 AM ET #82

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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2010 - 11:57 AM ET #83

    Quote Originally Posted by Stuckey:

    It's -3 as I thought.

    Obviously meant a 3-0 Bears team.

    I will also be on 49ers, Skins, Ravens, Dolphins and Browns.

    Looks like 4-2 at worst to me.


    , you go to the Cleveland game buddy? I should be near/in/around lot H for all the home games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuckey:

    It's -3 as I thought.

    Obviously meant a 3-0 Bears team.

    I will also be on 49ers, Skins, Ravens, Dolphins and Browns.

    Looks like 4-2 at worst to me.


    , you go to the Cleveland game buddy? I should be near/in/around lot H for all the home games.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2010 - 12:01 PM ET #84

    Giants will win the game. This is the NFL. Big win and a short week on the road vs a "bad team" spells disaster
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    Giants will win the game. This is the NFL. Big win and a short week on the road vs a "bad team" spells disaster
     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2010 - 12:09 PM ET #85

    take the underdog
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    take the underdog
     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2010 - 12:12 PM ET #86

    Quote Originally Posted by 165yds:



    Yeah, Hester looks like he has that swagger back.  I doubt it, but I wonder if they'll consider throwing him back there on some kickoffs too.  Knox and Manning handle that pretty well too, though.

    Big special teams advantage for the Bears. 

    On defense, Bears D is very opportunistic and force mistakes.  They also hit, hard.  I see a bunch of Giants turnovers.  Giants can stop the run, but the Bears don't run anyway, Cutler will be throwing all day.  The more I look at the matchup the more I like the Bears.  I would liked the Bears even if they were 1-2, and the funny thing is the line might have been lower in that case than it is now, what with every "system" play on NY.  Good matchup for the Bears.  ML might be the way to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 165yds:



    Yeah, Hester looks like he has that swagger back.  I doubt it, but I wonder if they'll consider throwing him back there on some kickoffs too.  Knox and Manning handle that pretty well too, though.

    Big special teams advantage for the Bears. 

    On defense, Bears D is very opportunistic and force mistakes.  They also hit, hard.  I see a bunch of Giants turnovers.  Giants can stop the run, but the Bears don't run anyway, Cutler will be throwing all day.  The more I look at the matchup the more I like the Bears.  I would liked the Bears even if they were 1-2, and the funny thing is the line might have been lower in that case than it is now, what with every "system" play on NY.  Good matchup for the Bears.  ML might be the way to go.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2010 - 12:24 PM ET #87

    BOL Stuckey.
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    BOL Stuckey.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2010 - 1:00 PM ET #88

    Quote Originally Posted by depeche2:

    You guys really think NYG -3-120 is a good value?


    Nope.  I don't.  The Giants are the sloppiest team in football right now. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by depeche2:

    You guys really think NYG -3-120 is a good value?


    Nope.  I don't.  The Giants are the sloppiest team in football right now. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2010 - 1:05 PM ET #89

    Quote Originally Posted by depeche2:

    You guys really think NYG -3-120 is a good value?

     

    I grabbed some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by depeche2:

    You guys really think NYG -3-120 is a good value?

     

    I grabbed some.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2010 - 1:34 PM ET #90

    Being a Bear fan I to am leaning towards the Giants, but I'm looking at the over as the better play. And I'm not buying GB - 14 1/2. I'm looking for the Lions to cover that spread. It's still early though, I like to see what the line does and then pull the trigger on some plays by Thursday.
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    Being a Bear fan I to am leaning towards the Giants, but I'm looking at the over as the better play. And I'm not buying GB - 14 1/2. I'm looking for the Lions to cover that spread. It's still early though, I like to see what the line does and then pull the trigger on some plays by Thursday.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2010 - 1:36 PM ET #91

    +4 now at some places..
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    +4 now at some places..
     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2010 - 1:45 PM ET #92

    Where are all these Giant lovers coming from? I mean seriously, have you watched their first 3 games. If it was not for Nicks snatching 3 tds in the first game these guys would be 0-3 and their would be no coach on the sidelines.....

    This Giants team is far from coherent right now. Look at how the players are reacting towards the coach!!!! This game could be a message game to Giants ownership that they will not play for Coughlin anymore.

    Anyone remember the 2006 season, the Bears came in as the road dog on a Sunday night and all these posts came out early in the week that they will flatten a "lucky" Bears team and what happened?

    Keep talkin the Giants up, easy money baby, easy money!!!! 

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    Where are all these Giant lovers coming from? I mean seriously, have you watched their first 3 games. If it was not for Nicks snatching 3 tds in the first game these guys would be 0-3 and their would be no coach on the sidelines.....

    This Giants team is far from coherent right now. Look at how the players are reacting towards the coach!!!! This game could be a message game to Giants ownership that they will not play for Coughlin anymore.

    Anyone remember the 2006 season, the Bears came in as the road dog on a Sunday night and all these posts came out early in the week that they will flatten a "lucky" Bears team and what happened?

    Keep talkin the Giants up, easy money baby, easy money!!!! 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2010 - 1:47 PM ET #93

    Quote Originally Posted by wilk704:

    Where are all these Giant lovers coming from? I mean seriously, have you watched their first 3 games. If it was not for Nicks snatching 3 tds in the first game these guys would be 0-3 and their would be no coach on the sidelines.....

    This Giants team is far from coherent right now. Look at how the players are reacting towards the coach!!!! This game could be a message game to Giants ownership that they will not play for Coughlin anymore.

    Anyone remember the 2006 season, the Bears came in as the road dog on a Sunday night and all these posts came out early in the week that they will flatten a "lucky" Bears team and what happened?

    Keep talkin the Giants up, easy money baby, easy money!!!! 



    And if they didn't continuously shoot themselves in the foot with stupid bonehead penalties vs the Titans they'd be 2-1. Did you actually WATCH the game? The Giants drove up and down the field all day and repeatedly stalled in the red zone. They out gained the Titans by more then 200 yards of offense. But you just see the 29-10 score and nothing else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilk704:

    Where are all these Giant lovers coming from? I mean seriously, have you watched their first 3 games. If it was not for Nicks snatching 3 tds in the first game these guys would be 0-3 and their would be no coach on the sidelines.....

    This Giants team is far from coherent right now. Look at how the players are reacting towards the coach!!!! This game could be a message game to Giants ownership that they will not play for Coughlin anymore.

    Anyone remember the 2006 season, the Bears came in as the road dog on a Sunday night and all these posts came out early in the week that they will flatten a "lucky" Bears team and what happened?

    Keep talkin the Giants up, easy money baby, easy money!!!! 



    And if they didn't continuously shoot themselves in the foot with stupid bonehead penalties vs the Titans they'd be 2-1. Did you actually WATCH the game? The Giants drove up and down the field all day and repeatedly stalled in the red zone. They out gained the Titans by more then 200 yards of offense. But you just see the 29-10 score and nothing else.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2010 - 1:49 PM ET #94

    Rodgers is much more mobile than Manning and look at how the Bears DLine ate up the Packers.... pick Giant backers..... Eli gets sacked because he can move, his Oline commits 7 holding calls, the bears force 2 turnovers, the Giants actually moving the ball on the ground vs the NFL's best rush d or Eli getting 4 seconds to throw the ball down field????

    The two that looks like the least possible are the ones all of you Giant backers are putting money on?????? Stupidity!!!!!!

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    Rodgers is much more mobile than Manning and look at how the Bears DLine ate up the Packers.... pick Giant backers..... Eli gets sacked because he can move, his Oline commits 7 holding calls, the bears force 2 turnovers, the Giants actually moving the ball on the ground vs the NFL's best rush d or Eli getting 4 seconds to throw the ball down field????

    The two that looks like the least possible are the ones all of you Giant backers are putting money on?????? Stupidity!!!!!!

     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2010 - 1:52 PM ET #95

    Rangerz.... ur a homer buddy please get on the same page.....

    The NFL is all about who can not shoot themselves in the foot the least and the Giants do all the time.....

    You talk about red zone effectiveness and you just answered why the Giants should not win, they cannot score!!!!!!

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    Rangerz.... ur a homer buddy please get on the same page.....

    The NFL is all about who can not shoot themselves in the foot the least and the Giants do all the time.....

    You talk about red zone effectiveness and you just answered why the Giants should not win, they cannot score!!!!!!

     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2010 - 1:53 PM ET #96

    If they walked it up and down the field on a mediocre Titans D than why did they score 10 points?????

    When did getting in the red zone automatically mean getting in the end zone???? It doesn't moron!!!

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    If they walked it up and down the field on a mediocre Titans D than why did they score 10 points?????

    When did getting in the red zone automatically mean getting in the end zone???? It doesn't moron!!!

     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2010 - 2:43 PM ET #97

    Quote Originally Posted by wilk704:

    Rodgers is much more mobile than Manning and look at how the Bears DLine ate up the Packers.... pick Giant backers..... Eli gets sacked because he can move, his Oline commits 7 holding calls, the bears force 2 turnovers, the Giants actually moving the ball on the ground vs the NFL's best rush d or Eli getting 4 seconds to throw the ball down field????

    The two that looks like the least possible are the ones all of you Giant backers are putting money on?????? Stupidity!!!!!!



    Its pretty easy to spot the long-term losers on this board.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wilk704:

    Rodgers is much more mobile than Manning and look at how the Bears DLine ate up the Packers.... pick Giant backers..... Eli gets sacked because he can move, his Oline commits 7 holding calls, the bears force 2 turnovers, the Giants actually moving the ball on the ground vs the NFL's best rush d or Eli getting 4 seconds to throw the ball down field????

    The two that looks like the least possible are the ones all of you Giant backers are putting money on?????? Stupidity!!!!!!



    Its pretty easy to spot the long-term losers on this board.


     
    johnnyflynn
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2010 - 2:53 PM ET #98

    Quote Originally Posted by wilk704:

    Rodgers is much more mobile than Manning and look at how the Bears DLine ate up the Packers.... pick Giant backers..... Eli gets sacked because he can move, his Oline commits 7 holding calls, the bears force 2 turnovers, the Giants actually moving the ball on the ground vs the NFL's best rush d or Eli getting 4 seconds to throw the ball down field????

    The two that looks like the least possible are the ones all of you Giant backers are putting money on?????? Stupidity!!!!!!


    What does this mean? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilk704:

    Rodgers is much more mobile than Manning and look at how the Bears DLine ate up the Packers.... pick Giant backers..... Eli gets sacked because he can move, his Oline commits 7 holding calls, the bears force 2 turnovers, the Giants actually moving the ball on the ground vs the NFL's best rush d or Eli getting 4 seconds to throw the ball down field????

    The two that looks like the least possible are the ones all of you Giant backers are putting money on?????? Stupidity!!!!!!


    What does this mean? 
     
    Mikie2Times
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2010 - 3:39 PM ET #99

    Quote Originally Posted by 165yds:

    This is the mindset of most people when they think of the Bears, no one takes them seriously.  They are lucky and Cutler sucks.  Come Sunday night that thought process won't change even a little in the minds of most gamblers.  The coach is still one of the worst in the league and they have far more issues than most of you realize.  Is there a more disgusting favorite over the years than the Giants? 


    I think your analyzing this way to much. The Bears allow pass yards, can't score in the red zone, are not balanced offensively. Martz is pass obsessed. Cutler nearly gave the game away yesterday several times and was pressured relentlessly (in part to Martz 15 step drops). This was the statement game for them, and just like the rest of the year they barely won.

    Sure the general logic is that they got lucky, but you will still see a higher percentage of plays for the Bears on the consensus with movement against that on the line.

    Yes the Giants have problems, in the locker room and on the field. But they've moved the ball well vs the Titans, just took a ton of turnovers and penalties. Eli's INT's have had several deflections this year. They just keep making mistakes. Could keep going? Sure. But when you think about the situiation.......

    Bears short week, off a huge monday night win, home to away. 3-0.

    Giants off huge home loss, one they should have likely won. A week prior the public spanking vs the Colts. Fever pitch in New York right now over the HC and Team. Now this alone is money enough, but you put it on Sunday night and it puts it over the edge.

    The G-men know 1 win puts them back in the race and silences the critics. They have a chance to do this against the undefeated Bears and trust me the Giants won't enter this game thinking the Bears are lucky, they will only see 3-0 and a chance to right the ship.          
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    Quote Originally Posted by 165yds:

    This is the mindset of most people when they think of the Bears, no one takes them seriously.  They are lucky and Cutler sucks.  Come Sunday night that thought process won't change even a little in the minds of most gamblers.  The coach is still one of the worst in the league and they have far more issues than most of you realize.  Is there a more disgusting favorite over the years than the Giants? 


    I think your analyzing this way to much. The Bears allow pass yards, can't score in the red zone, are not balanced offensively. Martz is pass obsessed. Cutler nearly gave the game away yesterday several times and was pressured relentlessly (in part to Martz 15 step drops). This was the statement game for them, and just like the rest of the year they barely won.

    Sure the general logic is that they got lucky, but you will still see a higher percentage of plays for the Bears on the consensus with movement against that on the line.

    Yes the Giants have problems, in the locker room and on the field. But they've moved the ball well vs the Titans, just took a ton of turnovers and penalties. Eli's INT's have had several deflections this year. They just keep making mistakes. Could keep going? Sure. But when you think about the situiation.......

    Bears short week, off a huge monday night win, home to away. 3-0.

    Giants off huge home loss, one they should have likely won. A week prior the public spanking vs the Colts. Fever pitch in New York right now over the HC and Team. Now this alone is money enough, but you put it on Sunday night and it puts it over the edge.

    The G-men know 1 win puts them back in the race and silences the critics. They have a chance to do this against the undefeated Bears and trust me the Giants won't enter this game thinking the Bears are lucky, they will only see 3-0 and a chance to right the ship.          
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2010 - 4:19 PM ET #100

    Quote Originally Posted by VegasMaxx:

    Hester vs the worst special teams in the NFL.  Bears should have good field position all day.


    everyone in the NFL can solve the problem by.....

    not kicking to him. Packs were dumbfucks.

    NYG maybe as well, but theres a simple solution to this. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasMaxx:

    Hester vs the worst special teams in the NFL.  Bears should have good field position all day.


    everyone in the NFL can solve the problem by.....

    not kicking to him. Packs were dumbfucks.

    NYG maybe as well, but theres a simple solution to this. 
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