Sorry your name says it all KobezKing. You are a biased, uninformed and incapable of neutrality when it comes to criticism of your beloved Kobe.
I need a answer..... so u are saying a 3 yr stretch defines an 18 yr career??? I need an answer bfor i respond to u again cuz i need to know how stupid u really are.
Quote Originally Posted by mellow_wolf:
Sorry your name says it all KobezKing. You are a biased, uninformed and incapable of neutrality when it comes to criticism of your beloved Kobe.
I need a answer..... so u are saying a 3 yr stretch defines an 18 yr career??? I need an answer bfor i respond to u again cuz i need to know how stupid u really are.
i agree with this.. right now kobe is ahead of lebron all time and that lebron will most likely pass kobe if he continues on this pace and gets couple more ships. But to the people who say if lebron retired right now would b ahead of kobe on all time list are simply RETARDED
The point of the thread was never about who is better than the two of them; it was simply about LeBron's last second heroics. That's it. The only reason why it evolved(or devolved, depends on who you're asking) to who was more clutch was when you interjected yet again on how it WAS NOT just like you do in nearly every LeBron thread out there.
We get it. You love Kobe, and believe it or not, I do too. But like I said, it was about LeBron's buzzer beater,and not about anything else -- least of all not Kobe.
Quote Originally Posted by KobezKing:
i agree with this.. right now kobe is ahead of lebron all time and that lebron will most likely pass kobe if he continues on this pace and gets couple more ships. But to the people who say if lebron retired right now would b ahead of kobe on all time list are simply RETARDED
The point of the thread was never about who is better than the two of them; it was simply about LeBron's last second heroics. That's it. The only reason why it evolved(or devolved, depends on who you're asking) to who was more clutch was when you interjected yet again on how it WAS NOT just like you do in nearly every LeBron thread out there.
We get it. You love Kobe, and believe it or not, I do too. But like I said, it was about LeBron's buzzer beater,and not about anything else -- least of all not Kobe.
i agree with this.. right now kobe is ahead of lebron all time and that lebron will most likely pass kobe if he continues on this pace and gets couple more ships. But to the people who say if lebron retired right now would b ahead of kobe on all time list are simply RETARDED
Kobe is 19th in Career Player Efficiency
Lebron is 2nd in Career Player Efficiency
Lebron has more MVPs and just as many Finals MVPs as Kobe.
Lebron has been Player of the Week and Month way more times than Kobe has and Kobe is 6 years older than Lebron. Every stat says Lebron is a better player overall than Kobe.
Just because Kobe was on better teams and won more rings means he's a better player than Lebron? Now that is retarded.
Quote Originally Posted by KobezKing:
i agree with this.. right now kobe is ahead of lebron all time and that lebron will most likely pass kobe if he continues on this pace and gets couple more ships. But to the people who say if lebron retired right now would b ahead of kobe on all time list are simply RETARDED
Kobe is 19th in Career Player Efficiency
Lebron is 2nd in Career Player Efficiency
Lebron has more MVPs and just as many Finals MVPs as Kobe.
Lebron has been Player of the Week and Month way more times than Kobe has and Kobe is 6 years older than Lebron. Every stat says Lebron is a better player overall than Kobe.
Just because Kobe was on better teams and won more rings means he's a better player than Lebron? Now that is retarded.
I need a answer..... so u are saying a 3 yr stretch defines an 18 yr career??? I need an answer bfor i respond to u again cuz i need to know how stupid u really are.
Kobe.. dont waste your time arguing the truth brother, Lebron will not get anymore rings. Durant will end up having a better career. Just sit back and watch it work.
Quote Originally Posted by KobezKing:
I need a answer..... so u are saying a 3 yr stretch defines an 18 yr career??? I need an answer bfor i respond to u again cuz i need to know how stupid u really are.
Kobe.. dont waste your time arguing the truth brother, Lebron will not get anymore rings. Durant will end up having a better career. Just sit back and watch it work.
Oh so ur that computer geek stat guy...... So ur the guy who must have argued trout over MIggy for MVP right cuz he had higher WAR?? So then u must also agree that poth PG and KD are miles ahead of lebron as a defensive player too.. All these stats are bogus and made up by guys who never played a sport in their lives. Dudes talking about win shares.
Oh so ur that computer geek stat guy...... So ur the guy who must have argued trout over MIggy for MVP right cuz he had higher WAR?? So then u must also agree that poth PG and KD are miles ahead of lebron as a defensive player too.. All these stats are bogus and made up by guys who never played a sport in their lives. Dudes talking about win shares.
Oh so ur that computer geek stat guy...... So ur the guy who must have argued trout over MIggy for MVP right cuz he had higher WAR?? So then u must also agree that poth PG and KD are miles ahead of lebron as a defensive player too.. All these stats are bogus and made up by guys who never played a sport in their lives. Dudes talking about win shares.
hahahahahaha easy on making fun of numbers, my friend.
we'll see you baseball season.
Quote Originally Posted by KobezKing:
Oh so ur that computer geek stat guy...... So ur the guy who must have argued trout over MIggy for MVP right cuz he had higher WAR?? So then u must also agree that poth PG and KD are miles ahead of lebron as a defensive player too.. All these stats are bogus and made up by guys who never played a sport in their lives. Dudes talking about win shares.
hahahahahaha easy on making fun of numbers, my friend.
Lebron has more MVPs and just as many Finals MVPs as Kobe.
Lebron has been Player of the Week and Month way more times than Kobe has and Kobe is 6 years older than Lebron. Every stat says Lebron is a better player overall than Kobe.
Just because Kobe was on better teams and won more rings means he's a better player than Lebron? Now that is retarded.
Wait ur saying kobe has been on better teams????? there has never in nba history been a team as talented as the miami heat..... EVERRRRR. Is it 6 or 7 top 5 draft picks on same teams. They have 4 guys on their team who have avg at least 24 ppg for entire season
Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango:
Kobe is 19th in Career Player Efficiency
Lebron is 2nd in Career Player Efficiency
Lebron has more MVPs and just as many Finals MVPs as Kobe.
Lebron has been Player of the Week and Month way more times than Kobe has and Kobe is 6 years older than Lebron. Every stat says Lebron is a better player overall than Kobe.
Just because Kobe was on better teams and won more rings means he's a better player than Lebron? Now that is retarded.
Wait ur saying kobe has been on better teams????? there has never in nba history been a team as talented as the miami heat..... EVERRRRR. Is it 6 or 7 top 5 draft picks on same teams. They have 4 guys on their team who have avg at least 24 ppg for entire season
Oh so ur that computer geek stat guy...... So ur the guy who must have argued trout over MIggy for MVP right cuz he had higher WAR?? So then u must also agree that poth PG and KD are miles ahead of lebron as a defensive player too.. All these stats are bogus and made up by guys who never played a sport in their lives. Dudes talking about win shares.
Trout absolutely should have been MVP over Cabrera. I can't argue this shitt anymore. It's too annoying to argue with what mellow_wolf would call myopic people. You should read more and get a clue before you listen to talking heads all day on ESPN.
Oh so ur that computer geek stat guy...... So ur the guy who must have argued trout over MIggy for MVP right cuz he had higher WAR?? So then u must also agree that poth PG and KD are miles ahead of lebron as a defensive player too.. All these stats are bogus and made up by guys who never played a sport in their lives. Dudes talking about win shares.
Trout absolutely should have been MVP over Cabrera. I can't argue this shitt anymore. It's too annoying to argue with what mellow_wolf would call myopic people. You should read more and get a clue before you listen to talking heads all day on ESPN.
wait they just said lebron was 0-15 on game winning 3s bfor tonight unless im am def. did anyone else just hear that? and im being serious did i hear that right?
wait they just said lebron was 0-15 on game winning 3s bfor tonight unless im am def. did anyone else just hear that? and im being serious did i hear that right?
Wait ur saying kobe has been on better teams????? there has never in nba history been a team as talented as the miami heat..... EVERRRRR. Is it 6 or 7 top 5 draft picks on same teams. They have 4 guys on their team who have avg at least 24 ppg for entire season
Last 2 years Wade has been a shell of his former self and Ray Allen is 100 years old.
Kobe had Shaq for 3 rings and you do realize Shaq won ALL 3 FINALS MVPs.
And then Kobe played with 2 guys that were averaging double doubles all season.
If Lebron had Shaq in Shaq's prime they would've gone down as the best team in NBA history.
Quote Originally Posted by KobezKing:
Wait ur saying kobe has been on better teams????? there has never in nba history been a team as talented as the miami heat..... EVERRRRR. Is it 6 or 7 top 5 draft picks on same teams. They have 4 guys on their team who have avg at least 24 ppg for entire season
Last 2 years Wade has been a shell of his former self and Ray Allen is 100 years old.
Kobe had Shaq for 3 rings and you do realize Shaq won ALL 3 FINALS MVPs.
And then Kobe played with 2 guys that were averaging double doubles all season.
If Lebron had Shaq in Shaq's prime they would've gone down as the best team in NBA history.
Trout absolutely should have been MVP over Cabrera. I can't argue this shitt anymore. It's too annoying to argue with what mellow_wolf would call myopic people. You should read more and get a clue before you listen to talking heads all day on ESPN.
Dude u are just a moron then if u are really trying to say trout shoulda won mvp over miggy the last 2 years. I dont care what WAR says. eye test miggy was by far best player in baseball
Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango:
Trout absolutely should have been MVP over Cabrera. I can't argue this shitt anymore. It's too annoying to argue with what mellow_wolf would call myopic people. You should read more and get a clue before you listen to talking heads all day on ESPN.
Dude u are just a moron then if u are really trying to say trout shoulda won mvp over miggy the last 2 years. I dont care what WAR says. eye test miggy was by far best player in baseball
Didn't Lebron said that Kobe is the only player he couldnt defend/beat? I heard that in an interview a while back...if that is true, that's all that matter.
Didn't Lebron said that Kobe is the only player he couldnt defend/beat? I heard that in an interview a while back...if that is true, that's all that matter.
So ur the guy who must have argued trout over MIggy for MVP right cuz he had higher WAR??
i really can't stop laughing to myself at this sentence.
Your Avatar has kobe lined with championships and rings and trophies to the gills, which is what the game is about, being the best team, and winning the rings.
2013 Baltimore Orioles
85-77, 3rd place in AL East (Schedule and Results)
Lost AL Championship Series (4-2) to Boston Red Sox
Won AL Division Series (3-2) over Oakland Athletics
So Chris Davis didn't get to the postseason, nor did the his team. Interesting.
Back under my rock.
Quote Originally Posted by KobezKing:
So ur the guy who must have argued trout over MIggy for MVP right cuz he had higher WAR??
i really can't stop laughing to myself at this sentence.
Your Avatar has kobe lined with championships and rings and trophies to the gills, which is what the game is about, being the best team, and winning the rings.
2013 Baltimore Orioles
85-77, 3rd place in AL East (Schedule and Results)
@KobezKing: Having a prime, in shape Shaq for the 1st 3 championships is hardly cause for rejoice about Kobe's ability. He was not the leader of those teams. Or do you think he was? Explain if you do. How about explaining the Jerry West orchestrated trade of Gasol from Memphis? A travesty. Kobe is fortunate to have 5 rings. He does not make his teammates better. At all. Or do you think he does? Explain how he does exactly. I am curious to hear how he does that. 2004-2007 is important though you choose to disregard it. It's the most telling period of his career to any true basketball aficionado. Of which you are not.
Fact. Lebron would've had all of those teams in the Playoffs easily.
When Kobe lost Shaq, Lakers went from 56 wins to 34 wins.
Quote Originally Posted by mellow_wolf:
@KobezKing: Having a prime, in shape Shaq for the 1st 3 championships is hardly cause for rejoice about Kobe's ability. He was not the leader of those teams. Or do you think he was? Explain if you do. How about explaining the Jerry West orchestrated trade of Gasol from Memphis? A travesty. Kobe is fortunate to have 5 rings. He does not make his teammates better. At all. Or do you think he does? Explain how he does exactly. I am curious to hear how he does that. 2004-2007 is important though you choose to disregard it. It's the most telling period of his career to any true basketball aficionado. Of which you are not.
Fact. Lebron would've had all of those teams in the Playoffs easily.
When Kobe lost Shaq, Lakers went from 56 wins to 34 wins.
i really can't stop laughing to myself at this sentence.
Your Avatar has kobe lined with championships and rings and trophies to the gills, which is what the game is about, being the best team, and winning the rings.
2013 Baltimore Orioles
85-77, 3rd place in AL East (Schedule and Results)
Lost AL Championship Series (4-2) to Boston Red Sox
Won AL Division Series (3-2) over Oakland Athletics
So Chris Davis didn't get to the postseason, nor did the his team. Interesting.
Back under my rock.
wait im confused.... Why did trout get in playoffs???
Quote Originally Posted by henrymethbreath:
i really can't stop laughing to myself at this sentence.
Your Avatar has kobe lined with championships and rings and trophies to the gills, which is what the game is about, being the best team, and winning the rings.
2013 Baltimore Orioles
85-77, 3rd place in AL East (Schedule and Results)
Dude u are just a moron then if u are really trying to say trout shoulda won mvp over miggy the last 2 years. I dont care what WAR says. eye test miggy was by far best player in baseball
Eye test? You must not watch Trout then. It's way more than WAR. You obviously have no clue about defense in MLB. Try telling me Cabrera is in the same stratosphere as Trout as a defensive player. Trout is the best player in baseball and it's not even close.
Quote Originally Posted by KobezKing:
Dude u are just a moron then if u are really trying to say trout shoulda won mvp over miggy the last 2 years. I dont care what WAR says. eye test miggy was by far best player in baseball
Eye test? You must not watch Trout then. It's way more than WAR. You obviously have no clue about defense in MLB. Try telling me Cabrera is in the same stratosphere as Trout as a defensive player. Trout is the best player in baseball and it's not even close.
Didn't Lebron said that Kobe is the only player he couldnt defend/beat? I heard that in an interview a while back...if that is true, that's all that matter.
Lol nope according to these guys all that matters is guys sitting behind computers making up new stats.
Quote Originally Posted by haithuy:
Didn't Lebron said that Kobe is the only player he couldnt defend/beat? I heard that in an interview a while back...if that is true, that's all that matter.
Lol nope according to these guys all that matters is guys sitting behind computers making up new stats.
Trout is the best player in baseball and it's not even close. 
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