And every PLAYER pole. U know guys that actually played the game professionally voted every year and it was a landslide in voted toward kobe as who they would want to take last shot. Once again numbers dont tell the whole story. and how cute u say lebron has 7 career buzzer beaters..... Kobe had 6 in 1 yr
You can say whatever you want, but every stat backs up Lebron is better in the clutch, but it obv makes you sleep better thinking Kobe was a better player and is more clutch, so go ahead and think that.
Quote Originally Posted by KobezKing:
And every PLAYER pole. U know guys that actually played the game professionally voted every year and it was a landslide in voted toward kobe as who they would want to take last shot. Once again numbers dont tell the whole story. and how cute u say lebron has 7 career buzzer beaters..... Kobe had 6 in 1 yr
You can say whatever you want, but every stat backs up Lebron is better in the clutch, but it obv makes you sleep better thinking Kobe was a better player and is more clutch, so go ahead and think that.
so shango are u really trying to say with a straight face that if u had kobe and lebron in their primes u would take lebron to take last shot over kobe???? hahahahaha dont lie to urself... Funny when they played together in olympics against spain in gold medal game in 2008 they went to kobe every time down stretch
so shango are u really trying to say with a straight face that if u had kobe and lebron in their primes u would take lebron to take last shot over kobe???? hahahahaha dont lie to urself... Funny when they played together in olympics against spain in gold medal game in 2008 they went to kobe every time down stretch
LOL what do i gota do get on me knees and blow the guy???? I said it was amazing performance but also said it takes more than 1 shot/1 game to define clutch. thats all... but i guess people will say im hating lol....
No one's saying that you should. But you give underhanded compliments all the time with the exception of those for Kobe. The Heat were on the verge on getting eliminated last year by the Spurs yet somehow, LeBron was able to rally them back. He didn't make the final shot, but without his play, they wouldn't even have a shot at that miracle buzzer beater.
Clutch isn't limited to last second shots; it's any crucial situation where one's back is against the wall.
Quote Originally Posted by KobezKing:
LOL what do i gota do get on me knees and blow the guy???? I said it was amazing performance but also said it takes more than 1 shot/1 game to define clutch. thats all... but i guess people will say im hating lol....
No one's saying that you should. But you give underhanded compliments all the time with the exception of those for Kobe. The Heat were on the verge on getting eliminated last year by the Spurs yet somehow, LeBron was able to rally them back. He didn't make the final shot, but without his play, they wouldn't even have a shot at that miracle buzzer beater.
Clutch isn't limited to last second shots; it's any crucial situation where one's back is against the wall.
You can say whatever you want, but every stat backs up Lebron is better in the clutch, but it obv makes you sleep better thinking Kobe was a better player and is more clutch, so go ahead and think that.
I would rather b on the side of the players that actually played against both and saw both up close and personal... why dont u post links to those poles???? ohhh i see it wouldnt help ur argument.. My cousin is the biggest lebron slurper in world and even he would admit kobe is more clutch.. But i guess when a player passes to donyell marshall or some other scrub to take shot that is being clutch.... Lebron for the most part of his career has been afraid of the big moment and never wanted to take the shot... even when he first gfot to heat wade took last shot
Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango:
You can say whatever you want, but every stat backs up Lebron is better in the clutch, but it obv makes you sleep better thinking Kobe was a better player and is more clutch, so go ahead and think that.
I would rather b on the side of the players that actually played against both and saw both up close and personal... why dont u post links to those poles???? ohhh i see it wouldnt help ur argument.. My cousin is the biggest lebron slurper in world and even he would admit kobe is more clutch.. But i guess when a player passes to donyell marshall or some other scrub to take shot that is being clutch.... Lebron for the most part of his career has been afraid of the big moment and never wanted to take the shot... even when he first gfot to heat wade took last shot
No one's saying that you should. But you give underhanded compliments all the time with the exception of those for Kobe. The Heat were on the verge on getting eliminated last year by the Spurs yet somehow, LeBron was able to rally them back. He didn't make the final shot, but without his play, they wouldn't even have a shot at that miracle buzzer beater.
Clutch isn't limited to last second shots; it's any crucial situation where one's back is against the wall.
wait r u serious???? didnt he have like 2 turnover in last minute of game 6???? u cannot give that to lebron being clutch. that was luck where everything had to go perfect. and if not for bosh and allen lebron woulda been goat
Quote Originally Posted by Papabherd:
No one's saying that you should. But you give underhanded compliments all the time with the exception of those for Kobe. The Heat were on the verge on getting eliminated last year by the Spurs yet somehow, LeBron was able to rally them back. He didn't make the final shot, but without his play, they wouldn't even have a shot at that miracle buzzer beater.
Clutch isn't limited to last second shots; it's any crucial situation where one's back is against the wall.
wait r u serious???? didnt he have like 2 turnover in last minute of game 6???? u cannot give that to lebron being clutch. that was luck where everything had to go perfect. and if not for bosh and allen lebron woulda been goat
so shango are u really trying to say with a straight face that if u had kobe and lebron in their primes u would take lebron to take last shot over kobe???? hahahahaha dont lie to urself... Funny when they played together in olympics against spain in gold medal game in 2008 they went to kobe every time down stretch
That was 6 years ago. Kobe was 29 and in his prime and Lebron was 23. Of course Kobe would take the shots down the stretch. If Kobe was 29 this season, give me Lebron down the stretch every game. The stats don't lie. Lebron hasn't needed to take the last second shots because most of the time he doesn't let the games come down to the last shot. I don't get why you can't comprehend stats.
Quote Originally Posted by KobezKing:
so shango are u really trying to say with a straight face that if u had kobe and lebron in their primes u would take lebron to take last shot over kobe???? hahahahaha dont lie to urself... Funny when they played together in olympics against spain in gold medal game in 2008 they went to kobe every time down stretch
That was 6 years ago. Kobe was 29 and in his prime and Lebron was 23. Of course Kobe would take the shots down the stretch. If Kobe was 29 this season, give me Lebron down the stretch every game. The stats don't lie. Lebron hasn't needed to take the last second shots because most of the time he doesn't let the games come down to the last shot. I don't get why you can't comprehend stats.
wait r u serious???? didnt he have like 2 turnover in last minute of game 6???? u cannot give that to lebron being clutch. that was luck where everything had to go perfect. and if not for bosh and allen lebron woulda been goat
I guess you didn't watch that 4th quarter. He only had 16 points.
Quote Originally Posted by KobezKing:
wait r u serious???? didnt he have like 2 turnover in last minute of game 6???? u cannot give that to lebron being clutch. that was luck where everything had to go perfect. and if not for bosh and allen lebron woulda been goat
I guess you didn't watch that 4th quarter. He only had 16 points.
wait r u serious???? didnt he have like 2 turnover in last minute of game 6???? u cannot give that to lebron being clutch. that was luck where everything had to go perfect. and if not for bosh and allen lebron woulda been goat
And Kobe was nonexistent in game 7 of his last championship run and had to be bailed out by MWP and Gasol. What's your point? That teammates are actually needed to win?
Quote Originally Posted by KobezKing:
wait r u serious???? didnt he have like 2 turnover in last minute of game 6???? u cannot give that to lebron being clutch. that was luck where everything had to go perfect. and if not for bosh and allen lebron woulda been goat
And Kobe was nonexistent in game 7 of his last championship run and had to be bailed out by MWP and Gasol. What's your point? That teammates are actually needed to win?
Kobe is not a complete player. Look at his years without Shaq and Gasol((2004-2007). He scored a lot of empty points while making his teammate no better. Why does every Kobe lover ignore those years? I know why. They are the most representative of who he really is. Truth hurts.
Just take a look at his roster bfor u talk nonsense. It makes lebrons cleveland roster look like an all star team.. U are clearly a hater taking a 3 year stretch and saying that defines a guy who has played in 18 seasons hahahahah. most moronic thing i have ever heard. so 3 years matter but the other 15 dont.....
Quote Originally Posted by mellow_wolf:
Kobe is not a complete player. Look at his years without Shaq and Gasol((2004-2007). He scored a lot of empty points while making his teammate no better. Why does every Kobe lover ignore those years? I know why. They are the most representative of who he really is. Truth hurts.
Just take a look at his roster bfor u talk nonsense. It makes lebrons cleveland roster look like an all star team.. U are clearly a hater taking a 3 year stretch and saying that defines a guy who has played in 18 seasons hahahahah. most moronic thing i have ever heard. so 3 years matter but the other 15 dont.....
I guess you didn't watch that 4th quarter. He only had 16 points.
It's hopeless. He only chooses to see what he wants to see. There's no question that as far accomplishments go, Kobe is slightly ahead given the number of c'ships he has, but LeBron still has 4-5 great years ahead of him. I just hope he wins more(if the Suns or Celtics are not contending that is) before his career is done so the haters can fully appreciate how good he truly is.
Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango:
I guess you didn't watch that 4th quarter. He only had 16 points.
It's hopeless. He only chooses to see what he wants to see. There's no question that as far accomplishments go, Kobe is slightly ahead given the number of c'ships he has, but LeBron still has 4-5 great years ahead of him. I just hope he wins more(if the Suns or Celtics are not contending that is) before his career is done so the haters can fully appreciate how good he truly is.
Kobe is not a complete player. Look at his years without Shaq and Gasol((2004-2007). He scored a lot of empty points while making his teammate no better. Why does every Kobe lover ignore those years? I know why. They are the most representative of who he really is. Truth hurts.
he was just best offensive and defensive player in league for about 6 yr stretch but ur right he wasnt a complete player. wow people are literally retarded
Quote Originally Posted by mellow_wolf:
Kobe is not a complete player. Look at his years without Shaq and Gasol((2004-2007). He scored a lot of empty points while making his teammate no better. Why does every Kobe lover ignore those years? I know why. They are the most representative of who he really is. Truth hurts.
he was just best offensive and defensive player in league for about 6 yr stretch but ur right he wasnt a complete player. wow people are literally retarded
Just take a look at his roster bfor u talk nonsense. It makes lebrons cleveland roster look like an all star team.. U are clearly a hater taking a 3 year stretch and saying that defines a guy who has played in 18 seasons hahahahah. most moronic thing i have ever heard. so 3 years matter but the other 15 dont.....
You realize Lebron brought a team to the Finals when 3 of the starters were Delonte West, Devin Brown and a 34 year old Ben Wallace, who couldn't avg more than 4.2 PPG?
Quote Originally Posted by KobezKing:
Just take a look at his roster bfor u talk nonsense. It makes lebrons cleveland roster look like an all star team.. U are clearly a hater taking a 3 year stretch and saying that defines a guy who has played in 18 seasons hahahahah. most moronic thing i have ever heard. so 3 years matter but the other 15 dont.....
You realize Lebron brought a team to the Finals when 3 of the starters were Delonte West, Devin Brown and a 34 year old Ben Wallace, who couldn't avg more than 4.2 PPG?
It's hopeless. He only chooses to see what he wants to see. There's no question that as far accomplishments go, Kobe is slightly ahead given the number of c'ships he has, but LeBron still has 4-5 great years ahead of him. I just hope he wins more(if the Suns or Celtics are not contending that is) before his career is done so the haters can fully appreciate how good he truly is.
i agree with this.. right now kobe is ahead of lebron all time and that lebron will most likely pass kobe if he continues on this pace and gets couple more ships. But to the people who say if lebron retired right now would b ahead of kobe on all time list are simply RETARDED
Quote Originally Posted by Papabherd:
It's hopeless. He only chooses to see what he wants to see. There's no question that as far accomplishments go, Kobe is slightly ahead given the number of c'ships he has, but LeBron still has 4-5 great years ahead of him. I just hope he wins more(if the Suns or Celtics are not contending that is) before his career is done so the haters can fully appreciate how good he truly is.
i agree with this.. right now kobe is ahead of lebron all time and that lebron will most likely pass kobe if he continues on this pace and gets couple more ships. But to the people who say if lebron retired right now would b ahead of kobe on all time list are simply RETARDED
he was just best offensive and defensive player in league for about 6 yr stretch but ur right he wasnt a complete player. wow people are literally retarded
he was just best offensive and defensive player in league for about 6 yr stretch but ur right he wasnt a complete player. wow people are literally retarded
You realize Lebron brought a team to the Finals when 3 of the starters were Delonte West, Devin Brown and a 34 year old Ben Wallace, who couldn't avg more than 4.2 PPG?
He also had Donyell Marshall and Zydrunas Ilgauskas. Just had to put that there before he makes 'em look like world-beaters.
Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango:
You realize Lebron brought a team to the Finals when 3 of the starters were Delonte West, Devin Brown and a 34 year old Ben Wallace, who couldn't avg more than 4.2 PPG?
He also had Donyell Marshall and Zydrunas Ilgauskas. Just had to put that there before he makes 'em look like world-beaters.