Trae Young better than Doncic and better than Curry at the same age! Let the debate begin.

Good take, even if you are comparing current Curry to Young. 

@StumpTownStu

 I do remember Steph at his earliest days. But I admit I was not the degen I am now where I barely miss any game from the season. 

There are obviously some differences. Trae was a hyped up rookie that has lived up to expectations. Steph was someone everyone knew was a good shooter, but not one person could have foreseen how good he would become. My turnover argument may be rebutted since Trae holds the basketball about 90% of the time he is on the court, while Steph has never been that type of PG. 

My point is, in his earliest years, Steph still had that sharpshooter numbers that he has today. You may check that. Trae can work hard to improve them (and he has improved a lot with his free throw percentage)... but he will never be a 40%+ from 3p land for his career. Steph is from another planet. 

It did all of that and still watched my home team's games. Sometimes at Oracle Arena. Sometimes on replay later on. Sometimes at happy hour. I'm a homer and a lifelong Warriors fan. I went to my first game when I was three with my two brothers and my aunt and i've been a diehard ever since. You guys are just fanboys revisionist memories.  I'm giving an objective opinion about a guy who's entire career I have followed, a guy i've met in real life, a guy who literally is the savior of my team. At 22, he was a flawed rookie. That's the truth. A pure shooter but the rest of his game was flawed. I listed all the ways multiple times. Like I said before, this shit is like arguing about the meaning of a book with guys who have only read portions of it and the book is in a language they barely speak. Half of you don't even understand basketball as well as you think you do. And guarantee none of you watched more than 10 or 15 games of Steph's rookie seaon/sophmore seasons. So it's asinine to even argue with you all. Like Roger Mayweather said, most people don't know shit about boxing.

my god we're still talking about this

at 22 steph was in his first or 2nd year in the league

this is trae's 3rd year and late in the year

i wish i could be a gm sit on my *ss and make trades..

I watched him plenty in college, both Steph and Trae. Any one who watches and follows college basketball knew about them both. And Steph was a way smoother and more efficient player in college. I watch steph as a rookie and I watched Trae as a rookie. Trae at times looked like a bust. Everyone knew Steph was a sharpshooting stud. He does not have the ball as much as Trae especially in his early days. At 22 he had a shooting line of 48/44/93. One of the most elite lines you will ever see in the game. Steph was better in college, he was better at 21, better at 22, there has never been a time Trae Young was better than Steph Curry. You might have watched steph play but you didn't understand what you were watching especially if you think Trae Young is better. Are you basing this just off his last game? Lol. Because I've watched him plenty in the pros and there's plenty of games he commits too many turnovers and bricks them out of games. He is no where near Steph's level of efficiency. The only thing he has over Steph at 22 is he is the primary ball handler for the team so he'll have more touches, more shots, get fouled more, and have more assists. That's about it, otherwise when it comes to offensive skill, he's not even in the same conversation as Steph's 22 year old skill.

@gutinstinctus

 Trae has a higher assist to turnover ratio than Steph had at 22, and a virtually a even ratio as Steph's first full season without Monta, when Steph would've been 25ish. All this while handing out four more assists, similar rebounds, more than twice the points in the paint, committing half the personal fouls. These are things you squares aren't even hip too. Steph couldn't get into the paint at 22, scoring about 4 in the key. He committed a ton of personal fouls because he always been grabby on defense. This is stuff you see when you're actually watching games and not googling shooting percentage. Everybody knows Steph was a better shooter at 22 as Trae will ever be. You guys are some real fucking Tex Winters for pointing that shit out. Real great basketball minds.

I don't think Trae will end up near the player as Steph but i'm objectively comparing their games at 22.

Curry 3 point percentages years 1 and 2: .437, .442

Young 3 point percentage in first 3 years: .324, .361, .343.  I can find a lot of fools in the NBA to shoot that from 3.  Trae just had a hot game, and people overreacted

Curry slightly less turnovers, slightly more steals. At 22

Young better assists, slightly better rebounding and slightly less fouling, at 22

Curry was the better player at 22, purely by stats.

Curry is the better player, period.

Also Doc Rivers called out the refs for giving Trae Young the calls last game.  Said Simmons couldn't guard him, Trae could push and get no call

So we'll see what happens in Game 2, as Steph Curry-sorry, Trae Young will be starting

holy shi.t,what ever happened to morrow??..man that dude could shoot for real.

John "Hot Plate" williams got off to a hot start back in the day..oh wait sorry loll

1 Luka the Don

2 Trae 

3 Curry

Put Curry on Hawks , he won't make playoffs.  Or maybe 8th seed 

@Mancity

 i hope you're joking

Trae turned into baller !

@Mancity

 we'll just have to disagree.  no problem

this is what shouldnt be overlooked,trae should get huuuge credit for improving his game and strength to become what he has become..there was gigantic question marks from many about how he would transfer/translate his talent to the league...looking at him he just looked soooo fragile and inefficient/inconsistent coming in and at certain times early on in pre-season and his first year it seemed like he wasnt even capable of PLAYING at that level,let alone being a regular rotation guy or star...but ya gotta credit dude for how he has worked his way into being this player.

@StumpTownStu

Im pretty sure you are among those who think Russell Westbrook is among the GOAT discussion. 

If we are talking assists you are right. Trae Young is a much better passer than Curry. Just as Russell Westbrook also is. That does not make him a better player. 

You talk about scoring on the paint as if it was something that mattered when evaluating these 2 guys. They are light, short PGs. I dont give a rats ass about whether they score or not in the paint. I actually think that even goes in detriment to support Trae, since it shows that his FG% is way worse, despite him taking more shots closer to the rim.  

Did Steph foul more? yes he did. He tried to play some sort of defense and his steal stats support that. 1.9 steals per game. I wonder whether that may be among all time highs for a rookie season. Both are putrid defenders but Trae is much worse. Look at Trae Young guarding anyone. Pay special attention to it tomorrow. You will see my point. You can do whatever you want on him. 

You try to play smart and use the douchey fallacious card of "oh, I was at Oracle watching Steph", but that does not mean you know shit about basketball. You may have witnessed 200 games courtside, and that does not give by itself more value to the opinions you express . Your facts are flawed. Nothing you said has rebutted anything of what me or Bud have stated. 

The only way on which we would be able to settle this up, would be to look at both players +- differential numbers. But I cant find Steph´s historical data for the early seasons. I know it may be close, but Id be willing to bet that Steph has better numbers than Trae, at the same ages. 

i can't wait to bump this thread after game 2

Game 5 against the Knicks is exactly like college Trae Young. Scored 36 points on 10-28 shooting and 3-11 from 3. Thankfully he's an elite foul drawer.

Lol now everyone posting FG%… 

@gutinstinctus

 per 100 possessions box plus/minus

steph 1st 3 years: 0.7, 2.3, 4.3

trae 1st  3 years: -.6, 3.9, 3.6

steph improves the next 4 years, trae went down this year

but you gotta realize he had a great game against the 6ers last time out

@davemsh

 with trae vs steph it's dramatic, steph much better 3 pt shooter

you can pick any idiot off the nba street and get a comparable percentage to trae young

this thread is a joke imo

wait wait wait..you got steph ahead of jordan as your favourite??

or do you,like me,put mike in a category all of his own??like a transcendent "outside of the mortal game" category.

@gutinstinctus

Westbrook does not belong remotely in the same sentence as Curry. 

Curry changed the ENTIRE game of basketball. Like LT changed the entire NFL.

Westbrook has just changed....teams....multiple times.....

curry rookie season loll

who would you rather have