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    KNICKS @ PELICANS: Write-up!

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    scalabrine
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2016 - 6:21 PM ET #1

    2016 record: 35-20

    The pick:

    Knicks +3 over Pelicans

    Betting angles on NBA games where players choose to play (or not) on a nightly basis are very thin. So there really is no need for an in-depth write-up. But there are a few key points to back the Knicks here.

    1. A .500 record or better.

    Knicks are currently sitting at 16-15. Lose this game and you have the Rockets up next on the road where the Knicks will be big underdogs (-10 right now) against run and gun D'Antoni on back to back.

    Win the game and guarantee you head into the New Year with a >.500 a symbolic representation of a long struggling franchise.

    2. A Pelicans win streak that has been favorable.

    Pelicans have beaten the Heat, Dallas, and the Clippers in their last 3.

    The Heat win was legitimate. Dallas has been one of the worst teams in the league and the Clippers didn't have Paul or Blake that night. But the three game win streak, all games at home with two of the three teams struggling mightily (and the Heat are a bit hobble with Whiteside), is perfect for false confidence and in general, a good betting rule is to fade good teams off winning streaks at the right time.

    This is a 12 win team (i.e., Not good) so fading them here is even better.

    3. Knicks on a 2 game losing streak

     Again, as a general rule you want hungry teams on losing streaks. This isn't really a streak of sorts but it is a game that they want to win more than others. They lost to the Celtics at home on Christmas (a game they really wanted to cure their Dec 25th woes, a day they do not shine on) and then lost an OT game to the Hawks when Carmelo was dealt a questionable ejection.

    I look for the Knicks to preserve a .500 record going into the New Year with a motivated squad including an amped up Carmelo who once again has put precedence on this game.

    Anthony: "It's a game we have to win. We have to get it. We thought we could get the game against Atlanta. Friday is something we have to get."

    Lip service but far better than hearing "This is just another game on the schedule."

    Weird line. Pelicans must win by 4 to cover here in a game the Knicks really will be fighting for. I'll take those odds. I do not like Langston Galloway (and of course Anthony Davis) on the other side of the ball (as an ex-Knick who will look to play above his head) but the Knicks are coming in generally healthy and you can't say that about them most of the time in a game they should win against an inferior team.


    Small footnote: Hornacek game to Anthony's defense after the Hawks ejection. Good for scoring points with the team and team unity. Can be used as a rallying starting point.

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    2016 record: 35-20

    The pick:

    Knicks +3 over Pelicans

    Betting angles on NBA games where players choose to play (or not) on a nightly basis are very thin. So there really is no need for an in-depth write-up. But there are a few key points to back the Knicks here.

    1. A .500 record or better.

    Knicks are currently sitting at 16-15. Lose this game and you have the Rockets up next on the road where the Knicks will be big underdogs (-10 right now) against run and gun D'Antoni on back to back.

    Win the game and guarantee you head into the New Year with a >.500 a symbolic representation of a long struggling franchise.

    2. A Pelicans win streak that has been favorable.

    Pelicans have beaten the Heat, Dallas, and the Clippers in their last 3.

    The Heat win was legitimate. Dallas has been one of the worst teams in the league and the Clippers didn't have Paul or Blake that night. But the three game win streak, all games at home with two of the three teams struggling mightily (and the Heat are a bit hobble with Whiteside), is perfect for false confidence and in general, a good betting rule is to fade good teams off winning streaks at the right time.

    This is a 12 win team (i.e., Not good) so fading them here is even better.

    3. Knicks on a 2 game losing streak

     Again, as a general rule you want hungry teams on losing streaks. This isn't really a streak of sorts but it is a game that they want to win more than others. They lost to the Celtics at home on Christmas (a game they really wanted to cure their Dec 25th woes, a day they do not shine on) and then lost an OT game to the Hawks when Carmelo was dealt a questionable ejection.

    I look for the Knicks to preserve a .500 record going into the New Year with a motivated squad including an amped up Carmelo who once again has put precedence on this game.

    Anthony: "It's a game we have to win. We have to get it. We thought we could get the game against Atlanta. Friday is something we have to get."

    Lip service but far better than hearing "This is just another game on the schedule."

    Weird line. Pelicans must win by 4 to cover here in a game the Knicks really will be fighting for. I'll take those odds. I do not like Langston Galloway (and of course Anthony Davis) on the other side of the ball (as an ex-Knick who will look to play above his head) but the Knicks are coming in generally healthy and you can't say that about them most of the time in a game they should win against an inferior team.


    Small footnote: Hornacek game to Anthony's defense after the Hawks ejection. Good for scoring points with the team and team unity. Can be used as a rallying starting point.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2016 - 6:25 PM ET #2

    Love to see you here in the NBA forum with a Knicks play. That used to be your bread and butter, at least in my memory. Thanks for sharing
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    Love to see you here in the NBA forum with a Knicks play. That used to be your bread and butter, at least in my memory. Thanks for sharing
     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2016 - 6:27 PM ET #3

    They did had paul the other night for clippers as the line went to -1.5 clippers game time.
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    They did had paul the other night for clippers as the line went to -1.5 clippers game time.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2016 - 6:29 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirk_Werner41:

    Love to see you here in the NBA forum with a Knicks play. That used to be your bread and butter, at least in my memory. Thanks for sharing

    That is correct!

    Started capping only the NBA on Wagerline.

    This is a very straight-forward play. No unique angles, only traditional ones which many posters sign-on for. Really shocked this line went from 2.5 to 3. Not sure what the public is seeing here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirk_Werner41:

    Love to see you here in the NBA forum with a Knicks play. That used to be your bread and butter, at least in my memory. Thanks for sharing

    That is correct!

    Started capping only the NBA on Wagerline.

    This is a very straight-forward play. No unique angles, only traditional ones which many posters sign-on for. Really shocked this line went from 2.5 to 3. Not sure what the public is seeing here.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2016 - 6:29 PM ET #5

    GL Scal. I'm on MILW tonight. MIN is 0-10 ATS at Home since last year if they won SU in their previous Home game
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    GL Scal. I'm on MILW tonight. MIN is 0-10 ATS at Home since last year if they won SU in their previous Home game
     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2016 - 6:31 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by thebettingguy:

    They did had paul the other night for clippers as the line went to -1.5 clippers game time.

    Always welcome corrections. I saw he wasn't playing all day and assumed such in the final (I.e, expected them to lose).
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebettingguy:

    They did had paul the other night for clippers as the line went to -1.5 clippers game time.

    Always welcome corrections. I saw he wasn't playing all day and assumed such in the final (I.e, expected them to lose).
     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2016 - 6:33 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottLandau:

    GL Scal. I'm on MILW tonight. MIN is 0-10 ATS at Home since last year if they won SU in their previous Home game

    Shi+. I didn't realize they were that bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottLandau:

    GL Scal. I'm on MILW tonight. MIN is 0-10 ATS at Home since last year if they won SU in their previous Home game

    Shi+. I didn't realize they were that bad.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2016 - 6:35 PM ET #8

    Lots of top gun cappers are on the Knicks tonight....okay, lets do this 
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    Lots of top gun cappers are on the Knicks tonight....okay, lets do this 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2016 - 6:38 PM ET #9

    knicks are 0-5 and 1-4 ATS on back to back games
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    knicks are 0-5 and 1-4 ATS on back to back games
     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2016 - 6:40 PM ET #10

    Camelo, this guy is not a winner and high maintenance.  Lin became a household name when Camelo was out and the Knicks played as a team.  Good Luck tonight Cal!!!

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    Camelo, this guy is not a winner and high maintenance.  Lin became a household name when Camelo was out and the Knicks played as a team.  Good Luck tonight Cal!!!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2016 - 6:44 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by zxcv:

    knicks are 0-5 and 1-4 ATS on back to back games


    Knicks last played Wednesday night. You'd quote that stat for the Rockets game tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zxcv:

    knicks are 0-5 and 1-4 ATS on back to back games


    Knicks last played Wednesday night. You'd quote that stat for the Rockets game tomorrow.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2016 - 6:45 PM ET #12

    Navi


    Fantasy - The Carmelo Lin clash has as much to do with this cap as your avatar, however true.

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    Navi


    Fantasy - The Carmelo Lin clash has as much to do with this cap as your avatar, however true.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2016 - 7:03 PM ET #13

    Good luck Scal. 
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    Good luck Scal. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2016 - 7:15 PM ET #14

    good to see u scal lets do this #knicks

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    good to see u scal lets do this #knicks

     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2016 - 7:28 PM ET #15

    Knicks Baby! 
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    Knicks Baby! 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2016 - 7:31 PM ET #16

    lee is ruled out and line moved
    i wonder that changes your pick tho?
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    lee is ruled out and line moved
    i wonder that changes your pick tho?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2016 - 7:33 PM ET #17

    liking this a little bit,carmelo trying to make ammends for his brain explosion hopefully and pelicans definitely been playing above their heads a little recently.....aside from davis their roster is very marginal nba-calibre talent as they proved out of the gate at the start of the season.
    ya always gotta cross your fingers and hope these diva's show up and actually give a shiiit,but if we get sumthing close to a full effort from knicks they look good value....edge in talent,depth and (hopefully) urgency.
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    liking this a little bit,carmelo trying to make ammends for his brain explosion hopefully and pelicans definitely been playing above their heads a little recently.....aside from davis their roster is very marginal nba-calibre talent as they proved out of the gate at the start of the season.
    ya always gotta cross your fingers and hope these diva's show up and actually give a shiiit,but if we get sumthing close to a full effort from knicks they look good value....edge in talent,depth and (hopefully) urgency.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2016 - 7:35 PM ET #18

    Happy to see you scal with a NYK pick. I placed a bet about 6 hours agon when the odds first appeared on my local book. It was NYK+1.5. I thought the odds would be something like NYK PK, but I was wrong. Now on my book I see NYK+3. Can't cancel or do anything as of now. Lesson learned. Just hope the NYK wins su. Let's get this win scal.
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    Happy to see you scal with a NYK pick. I placed a bet about 6 hours agon when the odds first appeared on my local book. It was NYK+1.5. I thought the odds would be something like NYK PK, but I was wrong. Now on my book I see NYK+3. Can't cancel or do anything as of now. Lesson learned. Just hope the NYK wins su. Let's get this win scal.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2016 - 7:37 PM ET #19

    i like the knicks here as well. 

    bol 
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    i like the knicks here as well. 

    bol 
     
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    I feel like you could have picked a way better spot for someone who caps one game a week. Pelicans killing lately and start road trip after tonight. Knicks are such a toss up everyday.

    If the Knicks win this game, they still: "have the Rockets up next on the road where the Knicks will be big underdogs (-10 right now) against run and gun D'Antoni on back to back."
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    I feel like you could have picked a way better spot for someone who caps one game a week. Pelicans killing lately and start road trip after tonight. Knicks are such a toss up everyday.

    If the Knicks win this game, they still: "have the Rockets up next on the road where the Knicks will be big underdogs (-10 right now) against run and gun D'Antoni on back to back."
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by CLEsports:

    I feel like you could have picked a way better spot for someone who caps one game a week. Pelicans killing lately and start road trip after tonight. Knicks are such a toss up everyday.

    If the Knicks win this game, they still: "have the Rockets up next on the road where the Knicks will be big underdogs (-10 right now) against run and gun D'Antoni on back to back."

    Pelicans "killing" it lately but now they are a bit overrated just as they were underrated a few weeks back and line flatter them.
    This game should be a pk'em imo, with or without C.Lee
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    Quote Originally Posted by CLEsports:

    I feel like you could have picked a way better spot for someone who caps one game a week. Pelicans killing lately and start road trip after tonight. Knicks are such a toss up everyday.

    If the Knicks win this game, they still: "have the Rockets up next on the road where the Knicks will be big underdogs (-10 right now) against run and gun D'Antoni on back to back."

    Pelicans "killing" it lately but now they are a bit overrated just as they were underrated a few weeks back and line flatter them.
    This game should be a pk'em imo, with or without C.Lee
     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2016 - 8:09 PM ET #22

    + 3 1/2 now in my book. 
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    + 3 1/2 now in my book. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2016 - 8:46 PM ET #23


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    scalabrine
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2016 - 9:59 PM ET #24

    Just observe till I get hot guys. OBSERVE only.

    Can't understand this effort and that's not a good thing

    35-21 (~63%)
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    Just observe till I get hot guys. OBSERVE only.

    Can't understand this effort and that's not a good thing

    35-21 (~63%)
     
     
    guyhopestowin
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2016 - 10:00 PM ET #25

    i think big markets like new york, los angeles, chicago they generally fix games and make bettors who trust them lose

    yesterday lakers, today all 3 i mentioned at top

    as a capper in nba, i cannot trust these big market teams at all
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    i think big markets like new york, los angeles, chicago they generally fix games and make bettors who trust them lose

    yesterday lakers, today all 3 i mentioned at top

    as a capper in nba, i cannot trust these big market teams at all
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