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    theclaw
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2018 - 9:33 AM ET #151

    Jazz were there to cover the spread but couldn't get it done.

    Rockets shot lights out on 3's which they are very capable of doing but whether they can do that consistently is the question, not likely.

    But as we said, if they do they won't have much problem beating the Jazz.

    Teams play with variance, sometimes above, even well above averages then playing below averages, even well below averages.

    Jazz should bounce back game 2 with a much closer game. 
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    Jazz were there to cover the spread but couldn't get it done.

    Rockets shot lights out on 3's which they are very capable of doing but whether they can do that consistently is the question, not likely.

    But as we said, if they do they won't have much problem beating the Jazz.

    Teams play with variance, sometimes above, even well above averages then playing below averages, even well below averages.

    Jazz should bounce back game 2 with a much closer game. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2018 - 9:40 AM ET #152

    Quote Originally Posted by simple3:

    Looking at that Houston box score under in G2 looks good again. Houston play at a really slow pace these days, they shot a crazy 53% from behind the arc but Jazz actually did well at limiting their 3s (not surprising they're ranked very highly in 3 pt defense).

    On the other hand Utah actually shot 57% on their 2 pt shoots but only 31.8% on their 3s. Doubt they shoot that high on their 2s again and if they shot their average on 3s they'd have only made one more. 

    Other way in Pels game, over looks great. G1 was on track for a huge score but the 2nd half had less than 100 points.

    Pels love a fast game and all the talk is that they'll continue this is G2. 

    GSW shot slightly below average from the field, NOP way below and they only made 9 free throws. Only problem is a potentially rusty Curry but the ceiling on this game is probably in the 250s.


    Your not considering that teams play above or below averages, Jazz could play above average and make 2 or 3 more 3's that is 6 to  9 additional pts while the Rockets can shoot 33% on 3's, that be 7 less 3's, that is 21 pts.

    Rockets ave is only around 36-37 % so shooting slightly under their ave is not only possible it is expected at some point, that does not even take into consideration they can and have shoot below 30% many times.

    So granted Jazz may not shoot 57% on 2's again and Rockets shoot only 40% but a simple regression on 3's can produce alot of points for Jazz.

    And at some point we almost certainly will see this happen, unless the Rockets just go off on 3's the entire series, which is low probability but not impossible. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by simple3:

    Looking at that Houston box score under in G2 looks good again. Houston play at a really slow pace these days, they shot a crazy 53% from behind the arc but Jazz actually did well at limiting their 3s (not surprising they're ranked very highly in 3 pt defense).

    On the other hand Utah actually shot 57% on their 2 pt shoots but only 31.8% on their 3s. Doubt they shoot that high on their 2s again and if they shot their average on 3s they'd have only made one more. 

    Other way in Pels game, over looks great. G1 was on track for a huge score but the 2nd half had less than 100 points.

    Pels love a fast game and all the talk is that they'll continue this is G2. 

    GSW shot slightly below average from the field, NOP way below and they only made 9 free throws. Only problem is a potentially rusty Curry but the ceiling on this game is probably in the 250s.


    Your not considering that teams play above or below averages, Jazz could play above average and make 2 or 3 more 3's that is 6 to  9 additional pts while the Rockets can shoot 33% on 3's, that be 7 less 3's, that is 21 pts.

    Rockets ave is only around 36-37 % so shooting slightly under their ave is not only possible it is expected at some point, that does not even take into consideration they can and have shoot below 30% many times.

    So granted Jazz may not shoot 57% on 2's again and Rockets shoot only 40% but a simple regression on 3's can produce alot of points for Jazz.

    And at some point we almost certainly will see this happen, unless the Rockets just go off on 3's the entire series, which is low probability but not impossible. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2018 - 9:52 AM ET #153

    MY LINES..............................................

    Celtics -1.28 over 76ers

    With injuries to Kyrie we pass on this game.

    if Kyrie were worth 4 pts, line becomes 76ers -2.72 and we'd have a no play.

    since it is not an exact science to how much Kyrie is worth we pass in situations where it is obvious we can make a play but not here.
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    MY LINES..............................................

    Celtics -1.28 over 76ers

    With injuries to Kyrie we pass on this game.

    if Kyrie were worth 4 pts, line becomes 76ers -2.72 and we'd have a no play.

    since it is not an exact science to how much Kyrie is worth we pass in situations where it is obvious we can make a play but not here.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2018 - 9:55 AM ET #154

    LARGEST MISMATCH TEAMS................................

    76ers -3.5 over Celtics --- 2.2 units

    very confident 76ers will win one of the first 2 games in Boston.

    could of had -2 yesterday but waited it out till today, boy oh boy I hope that 1.5 points does not come into play...............
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    LARGEST MISMATCH TEAMS................................

    76ers -3.5 over Celtics --- 2.2 units

    very confident 76ers will win one of the first 2 games in Boston.

    could of had -2 yesterday but waited it out till today, boy oh boy I hope that 1.5 points does not come into play...............
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2018 - 10:11 AM ET #155

    2CD ROUND MISMATCHES in 5 KEY STATS.................................

    Raptors by 5.07 over Cavs
    Warriors by 3.18 over Pelicans
    76ers by 1.98 over Celtics
    Rockets by .57 over Jazz

    2017.............Raptors by .46 over Cavs , last year Raps were a very small favorite over Cavs, by less then 1 pt.

    Huge difference to the quality of both teams this season.

    1st round our mismatch method went 7-1 at winning the series with 2 of 3 road team dogs winning.



    OUR LARGEST MISMATCH TEAMS in ROUND 2........................

    Raptors win 4 of 5 stats
    76ers win 1 of 5 stats

    we back these 2 teams in each game

    all 3 teams in round 1 finished with winning ATS records in every game with Pacers coming up huge for us, 6-1 ATS.
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    2CD ROUND MISMATCHES in 5 KEY STATS.................................

    Raptors by 5.07 over Cavs
    Warriors by 3.18 over Pelicans
    76ers by 1.98 over Celtics
    Rockets by .57 over Jazz

    2017.............Raptors by .46 over Cavs , last year Raps were a very small favorite over Cavs, by less then 1 pt.

    Huge difference to the quality of both teams this season.

    1st round our mismatch method went 7-1 at winning the series with 2 of 3 road team dogs winning.



    OUR LARGEST MISMATCH TEAMS in ROUND 2........................

    Raptors win 4 of 5 stats
    76ers win 1 of 5 stats

    we back these 2 teams in each game

    all 3 teams in round 1 finished with winning ATS records in every game with Pacers coming up huge for us, 6-1 ATS.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2018 - 10:18 AM ET #156

    2 TEAM SERIES PARLAY (-119) ...................3.57 UNITS TO WIN  3 UNITS 

    Raptors -200
    76ers -440
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    2 TEAM SERIES PARLAY (-119) ...................3.57 UNITS TO WIN  3 UNITS 

    Raptors -200
    76ers -440
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2018 - 6:55 PM ET #157

    Brown looks doubtful, he had 2cd most shot attempts in regular season although very close to the 3rd, 4th and 5th most shot attempts, all pretty even  and 2cd in scoring as he was 2cd in scoring in playoffs just 2 pts  total behind Horford and 2 pts total ahead of Rozier.

    He was also 2cd in usage in playoffs behind Morris amoung the starters.

    The public is on a 3-1 run, and are 63% on Celtics, 3-1 run is not all that great but would look for public to go down tonight which works well with our play on 76ers.

    If public does win tonight then already shaping up for tommorrow for a win for us. Public will not survive 3-0 over the next 2 nights and go on a  6-1 run , very unlikely.
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    Brown looks doubtful, he had 2cd most shot attempts in regular season although very close to the 3rd, 4th and 5th most shot attempts, all pretty even  and 2cd in scoring as he was 2cd in scoring in playoffs just 2 pts  total behind Horford and 2 pts total ahead of Rozier.

    He was also 2cd in usage in playoffs behind Morris amoung the starters.

    The public is on a 3-1 run, and are 63% on Celtics, 3-1 run is not all that great but would look for public to go down tonight which works well with our play on 76ers.

    If public does win tonight then already shaping up for tommorrow for a win for us. Public will not survive 3-0 over the next 2 nights and go on a  6-1 run , very unlikely.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2018 - 6:58 PM ET #158

    I see heavy money on Philly. May be my information is incorrect. GL!
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    I see heavy money on Philly. May be my information is incorrect. GL!
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2018 - 7:26 PM ET #159

     I'm always curious about sources for public bets. I'm seeing conflicting reports on this game. I use various sites, VI , a site that starts with Z and lists number of bets separately from dollar amounts and covers. There used to be a spot where a bookie posted his action but he's done for the year. Really hard to trust any of them unless it's obvious and they all agree. The bookie seemed to be legit but still it was just the whims of his players.
     Covers report from Vegas books claims heavy action on 76ers as do most but not all of my sources.VI has  61% on Celtics + points but Philly ML Listening to people on the board is a good clue but I think they often are against the very general public in regard to Cavs games.
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     I'm always curious about sources for public bets. I'm seeing conflicting reports on this game. I use various sites, VI , a site that starts with Z and lists number of bets separately from dollar amounts and covers. There used to be a spot where a bookie posted his action but he's done for the year. Really hard to trust any of them unless it's obvious and they all agree. The bookie seemed to be legit but still it was just the whims of his players.
     Covers report from Vegas books claims heavy action on 76ers as do most but not all of my sources.VI has  61% on Celtics + points but Philly ML Listening to people on the board is a good clue but I think they often are against the very general public in regard to Cavs games.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2018 - 7:34 PM ET #160

    I pay monthly for my information. Could be false, but I'm making money integrating it with my system. GL!
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    I pay monthly for my information. Could be false, but I'm making money integrating it with my system. GL!
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2018 - 7:39 PM ET #161

    "Public" is Boston?
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    "Public" is Boston?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2018 - 7:42 PM ET #162

    Quote Originally Posted by kimoinsd808:

    "Public" is Boston?



    Philly isn't?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kimoinsd808:

    "Public" is Boston?



    Philly isn't?
     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2018 - 7:47 AM ET #163

    Public was on Celtics, 63% or so, the line moves based on money which was on 76ers but the number of bets was more on Celtics, the larger bets most likely sharps was on 76ers. But the more bets more likely general public was on Celtics.

    So now public is on a 4-1 run, and will almost certainly lose at least 1 game tonight on Cavs then on Warriors.
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    Public was on Celtics, 63% or so, the line moves based on money which was on 76ers but the number of bets was more on Celtics, the larger bets most likely sharps was on 76ers. But the more bets more likely general public was on Celtics.

    So now public is on a 4-1 run, and will almost certainly lose at least 1 game tonight on Cavs then on Warriors.
     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2018 - 7:58 AM ET #164

    0-1 ATS, lost 2.2 units

    Celtics shot very well, 47.2 % on 3's almost 10% above their ave, while 76ers shot dreadful, 19.2 % on 3's almost 18 % below their ave.

    That is your typical result with 3 pointers, shoot very well and win or very poor and lose but for 1 team to shoot well and the other poor in the same game leads to a big win.

    Rozier shot lights out, 7 of 9.

    Celtics likely will not continue at that pace nor will 76ers.

    Celtics are amazing , playing through another injury to Brown and they do not seem to miss a beat.

    Alot of people doubting this team which only feeds their motivation, at some point hopefully some of that shifts to believing in the Celtics.

    Interesting there was an article just this morning on Yahoo........ should we start believing in the Celtics ? 

    Watch the sentiment shift and the results .as well. But not sure it has shifted all that much yet, but at some point in this series it very well could.

    In any event we ride the 76ers again game 2. But let's wait-out the line.
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    0-1 ATS, lost 2.2 units

    Celtics shot very well, 47.2 % on 3's almost 10% above their ave, while 76ers shot dreadful, 19.2 % on 3's almost 18 % below their ave.

    That is your typical result with 3 pointers, shoot very well and win or very poor and lose but for 1 team to shoot well and the other poor in the same game leads to a big win.

    Rozier shot lights out, 7 of 9.

    Celtics likely will not continue at that pace nor will 76ers.

    Celtics are amazing , playing through another injury to Brown and they do not seem to miss a beat.

    Alot of people doubting this team which only feeds their motivation, at some point hopefully some of that shifts to believing in the Celtics.

    Interesting there was an article just this morning on Yahoo........ should we start believing in the Celtics ? 

    Watch the sentiment shift and the results .as well. But not sure it has shifted all that much yet, but at some point in this series it very well could.

    In any event we ride the 76ers again game 2. But let's wait-out the line.
     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2018 - 8:04 AM ET #165

    MY LINES..........................................

    Raps -13.62 over Cavs
    Warriors -10.02 over Pelicans...........using end of season stats
    Warriors -11.93 ..................using stats before injuries hit the 3 key players 


    we pass on Warriors as we do not play teams off ATS wins in game 2

    could play Pelicans but line would have to go up quite a bit. 
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    MY LINES..........................................

    Raps -13.62 over Cavs
    Warriors -10.02 over Pelicans...........using end of season stats
    Warriors -11.93 ..................using stats before injuries hit the 3 key players 


    we pass on Warriors as we do not play teams off ATS wins in game 2

    could play Pelicans but line would have to go up quite a bit. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:

    MY LINES..........................................

    Raps -13.62 over Cavs
    Warriors -10.02 over Pelicans...........using end of season stats
    Warriors -11.93 ..................using stats before injuries hit the 3 key players 


    we pass on Warriors as we do not play teams off ATS wins in game 2

    could play Pelicans but line would have to go up quite a bit. 


    LEAN Raps -6.5 over Cavs
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    MY LINES..........................................

    Raps -13.62 over Cavs
    Warriors -10.02 over Pelicans...........using end of season stats
    Warriors -11.93 ..................using stats before injuries hit the 3 key players 


    we pass on Warriors as we do not play teams off ATS wins in game 2

    could play Pelicans but line would have to go up quite a bit. 


    LEAN Raps -6.5 over Cavs
     
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    LARGEST MISMATCH TEAMS............................


    Raps -6.5 over Cavs --- 2.2 units
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    Posted: May. 1, 2018 - 7:58 PM ET #168

    Raps/Cavs OVER 213.5 --- 2.2 units
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    2 TEAM SERIES PARLAY..................1 UNIT TO WIN 1.27 UNITS

    Raps -185
    76ers -210
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    Raps -185
    76ers -210
     
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    Nice call on the Raps over Claw! I was undecided on that game until I saw your over prediction. Thank you and keep up the good work!!
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    Nice call on the Raps over Claw! I was undecided on that game until I saw your over prediction. Thank you and keep up the good work!!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveCFB1_:

    Nice call on the Raps over Claw! I was undecided on that game until I saw your over prediction. Thank you and keep up the good work!!

    Not really,the OT was needed  to win that one.
    By the way i haven't come here to troll.Mine is serious question:do you intend to double in Game 2?
    Seems like Lebron has some kind of injury that prevented him to train the morning before the game.
    I doubt the crazy shooting will repeat itself.

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    Nice call on the Raps over Claw! I was undecided on that game until I saw your over prediction. Thank you and keep up the good work!!

    Not really,the OT was needed  to win that one.
    By the way i haven't come here to troll.Mine is serious question:do you intend to double in Game 2?
    Seems like Lebron has some kind of injury that prevented him to train the morning before the game.
    I doubt the crazy shooting will repeat itself.

     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2018 - 6:57 AM ET #172

    games 0-1 ATS, LOST 2.2 UNITS
    totals 1-0 ATS, won 2 units


    Tough loss for Raps, lead the entire game had multiple chances at end of regulation but no shot would drop, then missed on last possession.

    Raps seemed to get alot of bad breaks in the game, Raps are a different team, they will respond in game 2 and win game 3 and take a 2-1 series lead.

    The game was headed over but then nobody could score much for a good long period late in 4th, we got a little lucky with the OT but the pace was very good for the over pretty much the entire game.

    Cavs did play much better defense, LBJ had a triple double while once again shooting horrendously bad. 1 of 8 on 3's and 1 of 6 from the line. Seems to be his calling card for his triple doubles.

    The public came in on a 4-1 run, won the first game on Cavs to go 5-1, then much as we suspected were going to lose at least 1 game, with 71 % on Warriors, Pelicans get the cover.


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    totals 1-0 ATS, won 2 units


    Tough loss for Raps, lead the entire game had multiple chances at end of regulation but no shot would drop, then missed on last possession.

    Raps seemed to get alot of bad breaks in the game, Raps are a different team, they will respond in game 2 and win game 3 and take a 2-1 series lead.

    The game was headed over but then nobody could score much for a good long period late in 4th, we got a little lucky with the OT but the pace was very good for the over pretty much the entire game.

    Cavs did play much better defense, LBJ had a triple double while once again shooting horrendously bad. 1 of 8 on 3's and 1 of 6 from the line. Seems to be his calling card for his triple doubles.

    The public came in on a 4-1 run, won the first game on Cavs to go 5-1, then much as we suspected were going to lose at least 1 game, with 71 % on Warriors, Pelicans get the cover.


     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2018 - 7:26 AM ET #173

    MY LINES........................... game 2

    Rockets -6.77 over Jazz 
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    Rockets -6.77 over Jazz 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:

    MY LINES........................... game 2

    Rockets -6.77 over Jazz 


    Rockets off 3 ATS wins, not the best spot for Rockets, we could see some regression tonight, and Jazz just might be in this game with a chance for the SU win.



    Jazz +11 over Rockets --- 2.2 units

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    MY LINES........................... game 2

    Rockets -6.77 over Jazz 


    Rockets off 3 ATS wins, not the best spot for Rockets, we could see some regression tonight, and Jazz just might be in this game with a chance for the SU win.



    Jazz +11 over Rockets --- 2.2 units

    Lean --- Jazz ML
     
     
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    LEAN--- Jazz 1st half +7 

    Lean ---Jazz 1st half ML +315

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