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Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

Had to comment on this. First off...Halladay may be considered a better pitcher then Wang, but Wang has the most wins of any pitcher over the last 2 seasons, and that is what matters overall. His 4 complete games this season means really nothing seeing that he lost 3 of them. Next, I don't belive that Marcum is better then Pettitte. Maybe Pettitte hasn't started off strong this season, but if it went down to a 1 game playoff to decide the final spot of the playoffs, are you teling me that you would take Marcum on the mound to outpitch Pettitte? I know I wouldn't. Burnett is better then Mussina, but Mussina is tied for 3rd in wins with 7. I have no idea why you mentioned McGowan over Hughes when Rasner is obviously going to get the job over Hughes the way he is pitching, and I believe that although Rasner may not be a better overall pitcher then McGowan, he sure is this season in the games he has pitched. Litsch is better then Kennedy, but Kennedy did have a great start his last outing and looks to be coming out of his slump. The Jays bullpen probably is better then the Yanks pen, but there really is no telling what is going to happen with bullpens until after the all-star break because once Joba moves to the rotation, they are going to bring up another pitcher who is supposed to be this season's Joba Chamberlain such as Alan Horne or Scott Patterson. And as of now, I believe that the Yanks jumped over a few teams since your post on the offensive side. It's the A-Rod affect. Since A-Rod has come back, Lefties are hitting .439, with Cano and Giambi busting out of their slumps. And maybe right now the Jays have better pitching, but Burnett hasn't shown much potential this season, and if Joba's move to the rotation works the way they hope it does, they have an awsome top 3 starters. The season is young, and the Yanks can easily come back and take the lead of the division. Hell...they already took 2 games from the Sox in 2 days.



Wins is not the most important stat for pitching. IT is actually one of the most OVERRATED stats for pitchers.

WHIP, BAA, K/BB, ERA and Innings are all better indicators of a better pitcher. You forget to mention that the Yankees have one of the most potent offenses in the game which gives their pitchers better chances of picking up victories when they do not pitch well.

Halladay- WHIP: 0.98; BAA: .231; K/BB: 6.2/1; ERA: 3.11; Innings pitched 81

Wang - WHIP: 1.17; BAA: .226; K/BB: 1.8/1; ERA: 3.51;  Innings pitched 66.2

They are very close but Halladay is the better pitcher. He pitches deeper into games which rests your bullpen more and he allows less people on base while getting the strikeout at a much better rate.  In addition he has almost and ERA of a half run better.

 
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Halladay should be in a Yankee uniform--that's the pitcher we should have gone after. Too bad he's on the Blue Jays.
 
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I believe that the Yankees need to pick up one more starting pitcher and another outfielder. But even absent this, as Sparkey said, with a heathy Posada, ARod and Jeter we will control our own destiny.
 
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The only chance the Yankees have of making the world series is the typical "Yankees Magic" 
 
The all star break rolls around and they are a good 5-6 games out of first place.  They think to themselves "how can we fix this"
 
They go to the teams struggling in dead last place and say "Name your price for all of your best players"
 
Then the Yankees buy up a couple of all stars... and the wheels on the bus will start rolling.
 
  you sir, are one of the biggest idiots on here. What makes you think they are going to do that? And if they do, thats no different than anyone else. Thats what the trade deadline is for. Thats part of the buisness. I mean boston attempted the same thing last year with gagne, it obviously failed, but  thats what they were doing.  Dont get into this buying wins bullshit. Judging by your  avatar your a dbacks fan. Yeah you really developed that 2001 team
 
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Wins is not the most important stat for pitching. IT is actually one of the most OVERRATED stats for pitchers.

WHIP, BAA, K/BB, ERA and Innings are all better indicators of a better pitcher. You forget to mention that the Yankees have one of the most potent offenses in the game which gives their pitchers better chances of picking up victories when they do not pitch well.

Halladay- WHIP: 0.98; BAA: .231; K/BB: 6.2/1; ERA: 3.11; Innings pitched 81

Wang - WHIP: 1.17; BAA: .226; K/BB: 1.8/1; ERA: 3.51;  Innings pitched 66.2

They are very close but Halladay is the better pitcher. He pitches deeper into games which rests your bullpen more and he allows less people on base while getting the strikeout at a much better rate.  In addition he has almost and ERA of a half run better.

I understand that. But also, Wang has put up the stats that an Ace would the last 2 seasons, including this one. The only reason his ERA is in the mid 3's is because of the awful outing against the Mets where he gave up a bunch. I'm not denying that Halladay is a better pitcher. He strikes out many along with being a sinkerball pitcher. But if you can maintain those stats and win, then you are set. Unlike Lincecum who is a great pitcher, but can't always get the run support needed to win.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Osirus13:

  you sir, are one of the biggest idiots on here. What makes you think they are going to do that? And if they do, thats no different than anyone else. Thats what the trade deadline is for. Thats part of the buisness. I mean boston attempted the same thing last year with gagne, it obviously failed, but  thats what they were doing.  Dont get into this buying wins bullshit. Judging by your  avatar your a dbacks fan. Yeah you really developed that 2001 team

 Very Well Said.

Would love to see a comeback to that.

 
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I believe that the Yankees need to pick up one more starting pitcher and another outfielder. But even absent this, as Sparkey said, with a heathy Posada, ARod and Jeter we will control our own destiny.

We have to see Kennedy in his next few starts to see if we need another starter. As far as outfielders go, we do not need another. We have 5(if you include Duncan). Sure they aren't the best fielders out there, but they can sure hit. Abreu has a great arm but is a box around the wall, Melky can do it all, Matsui is basically a scarecrow out there, and Damon has his speed. Duncan has an arm too, but he really doesn't play the outfield much unless needed.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

We have to see Kennedy in his next few starts to see if we need another starter. As far as outfielders go, we do not need another. We have 5(if you include Duncan). Sure they aren't the best fielders out there, but they can sure hit. Abreu has a great arm but is a box around the wall, Melky can do it all, Matsui is basically a scarecrow out there, and Damon has his speed. Duncan has an arm too, but he really doesn't play the outfield much unless needed.

Good point Sparky.

Yankees win again today!!!

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

Had to comment on this. First off...Halladay may be considered a better pitcher then Wang, but Wang has the most wins of any pitcher over the last 2 seasons, and that is what matters overall. His 4 complete games this season means really nothing seeing that he lost 3 of them. Next, I don't belive that Marcum is better then Pettitte. Maybe Pettitte hasn't started off strong this season, but if it went down to a 1 game playoff to decide the final spot of the playoffs, are you teling me that you would take Marcum on the mound to outpitch Pettitte? I know I wouldn't. Burnett is better then Mussina, but Mussina is tied for 3rd in wins with 7. I have no idea why you mentioned McGowan over Hughes when Rasner is obviously going to get the job over Hughes the way he is pitching, and I believe that although Rasner may not be a better overall pitcher then McGowan, he sure is this season in the games he has pitched. Litsch is better then Kennedy, but Kennedy did have a great start his last outing and looks to be coming out of his slump. The Jays bullpen probably is better then the Yanks pen, but there really is no telling what is going to happen with bullpens until after the all-star break because once Joba moves to the rotation, they are going to bring up another pitcher who is supposed to be this season's Joba Chamberlain such as Alan Horne or Scott Patterson. And as of now, I believe that the Yanks jumped over a few teams since your post on the offensive side. It's the A-Rod affect. Since A-Rod has come back, Lefties are hitting .439, with Cano and Giambi busting out of their slumps. And maybe right now the Jays have better pitching, but Burnett hasn't shown much potential this season, and if Joba's move to the rotation works the way they hope it does, they have an awsome top 3 starters. The season is young, and the Yanks can easily come back and take the lead of the division. Hell...they already took 2 games from the Sox in 2 days.

I would personally take Marcum over Pettite EVERY time. Do you have any idea how well Marcum has pitched all year? Maybe people will start giving this guy the credit he deserves after you see the stats.

ERA- 2.80 (10th in MLB)
WHIP- 0.87 (1st in MLB)
BAA- .157 (1st in MLB)
K- 59 (5th in AL)

Marcum right now should be one of the favorites for the AL Cy Young, along with Cliff Lee, and Halladay. So actually you could argue Marcum is better than Wang, not just Pettite.

Wins don't tell much about a pitcher actually. Webb and Zito are perfect examples. You give each of them the other's run support and Zito is probably something like 6-3 whereas Webb would most likely be under .500. If Halladay had any decent run support this year he would be 8-2 at worst. Halladay is arguably the best pitcher in the game, but he's not flashy and doesn't get run support so he doesn't get the respect and recognition he deserves.

Toronto has by far the best pitching staff in the league in my opinion, so the Yankees aren't even close in that regard.

You are right about the hitting though, and I stated that somewhere above I believe. The Yankees have a better lineup and A-Rod is the best hitter of all time, so having him back is a big deal. The offense will start scoring much more now, but I still don't think the lineup is as good as the hype around it would make you believe. They're still mostly old, past their prime sluggers.

The Yankees might have swept the Mariners, but guess what? They didn't gain a single game on either the Rays or the Jays because they both swept their opponents this weekend too. I'm not saying it's impossible that the Yankees make the playoffs, but I do truly believe they are the fourth best team in the division. The Rays are not just a fad and they will not fade out. They have tons of talent. The Jays will be able to win games with their pitching alone and just wait till Wells gets back and the lineup will start heating up.
 
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Let's go YANKEES, Let's go YANKEES....I feel the momentum building..
 
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gotta beat more than the mariners to win the world series
 
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I have been a yankee fan my whole life,  and I cannot endorse this yet
 
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This is where I wish there was an avatar of a smiley face hitting a bong.
 
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They'll have to get through the Brewers first. And I don't see that happening.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by lanastasis:

This is where I wish there was an avatar of a smiley face hitting a bong.

 
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this is as close as we got lana:
 
 
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First Kobe is better than Jordan in the NBA forum and now "NYY will win the WS?"......i want ages next to avatars.
 
The ever optomistic yankee fan falls prey to neurological fallicy called the "halo effect." They harken back to the Jeter/Posado/Mo/tino/O'neill/Brossius era as well as the highest payroll in the history of mankind and believe wholeheartedly (but heavily misguided) that equates to future championships (i.e. the halo that surrounds jeter and the success that those teams experienced extends to the modern era of Yankee teams even though only FOUR players remain from those teams). They needed a 4 run eigth to beat the M's today with their Ace on the mound. Guys, wisen up. The Yankees will not and more distinctly, CANNOT win the WS this year. Especially not with a frugual new face in the front office in Hank. Cut it out with these crap threads. Let's put money where the mouth has gone. Start posting your Futures world series bets WITH amounts on the Yanks and then start talking. Until then, its all incoherant babbling.
 
 
Mods, toss this thread ASAP.
 
 
 
 
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First Kobe is better than Jordan in the NBA forum and now "NYY will win the WS?"......i want ages next to avatars.
 
The ever optomistic yankee fan falls prey to neurological fallicy called the "halo effect." They harken back to the Jeter/Posado/Mo/tino/O'neill/Brossius era as well as the highest payroll in the history of mankind and believe wholeheartedly (but heavily misguided) that equates to future championships (i.e. the halo that surrounds jeter and the success that those teams experienced extends to the modern era of Yankee teams even though only FOUR players remain from those teams). They needed a 4 run eigth to beat the M's today with their Ace on the mound. Guys, wisen up. The Yankees will not and more distinctly, CANNOT win the WS this year. Especially not with a frugual new face in the front office in Hank. Cut it out with these crap threads. Let's put money where the mouth has gone. Start posting your Futures world series bets WITH amounts on the Yanks and then start talking. Until then, its all incoherant babbling.
 
 
Mods, toss this thread ASAP.
 
 
 
first of all being having a brian scalabrine avatar, you lose instant credibility. Im not predicting a ws victory for them, but to say they CAN NOT is stupid. Of course they can, this team is going to make a run and get better. So why dont you just shut it with your incoherant babbling and maybe the mods will toss all your threads. There really arent any dominant teams in baseball so its pretty wide open. Im not impressed with diceks 12 walks per game, beckett 3 home runs per game, wake, fat ass colon, and a couple of youngsters just like nyy. Not to mention a trash bullpen the bosox have
 
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This thread really shouldn't be tossed due to the amount of information that this thread brings.
 
And on to Marcum...I never said he was a bad pitcher, but I wouldn't take him over Pettitte in a big game situation. I honestly believe that the Jays won't be able to stay in front of the Sox, Rays, and Yanks throughout the season. I believe that they will be an easy consideration for 4th place.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

This thread really shouldn't be tossed due to the amount of information that this thread brings.
 
And on to Marcum...I never said he was a bad pitcher, but I wouldn't take him over Pettitte in a big game situation. I honestly believe that the Jays won't be able to stay in front of the Sox, Rays, and Yanks throughout the season. I believe that they will be an easy consideration for 4th place.
I agree the Jays won't finish ahead of the Sox because they are by far the best team in the division, if not the league (though the Jays are 4-2 against the Red Sox this season). I do however think the Jays will stay in the running for the wildcard all season. I see it coming down to the Rays or Jays at the end of the season, and right now I give the edge to the Rays, but that could quickly change when Wells gets back. The Yankees could be in the running too just because there really isn't any other good teams in the AL this season, but I do see them finishing fourth behind the Jays and Rays.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by -Chase-:

I agree the Jays won't finish ahead of the Sox because they are by far the best team in the division, if not the league (though the Jays are 4-2 against the Red Sox this season). I do however think the Jays will stay in the running for the wildcard all season. I see it coming down to the Rays or Jays at the end of the season, and right now I give the edge to the Rays, but that could quickly change when Wells gets back. The Yankees could be in the running too just because there really isn't any other good teams in the AL this season, but I do see them finishing fourth behind the Jays and Rays.

Well it's along season, and obviously we can't agree on this topic. So I guess we have to have the team speak for us.

 
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The Yankees will lose in the 1st round again and all the morons that bet them to win the world series every year will be wondering how they lost all their money again like they do every year
 
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Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:

The Yankees will lose in the 1st round again and all the morons that bet them to win the world series every year will be wondering how they lost all their money again like they do every year

Does anything more really need to be added to this?

 

By the way Osirus before you start dishing on avatars, get a little creative and have one of your own. And don't try to sell that yours is a silouhette of that spastic freak "let me kick and flail in the wind because i got out in the top of the eigth with a 3-0 lead" , Joba Chamberlain.

 
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Pinch me...the Yankees beat the slumpin Mariners so now they are on their way to the World Series. Hey I would love to see that but I am a realistic sports fan. Yankees are short in a lot of areas and at least 2 years away from seriously contending for the pennant. In fact I do believe that Mr. Cashman, Steinbrenner's YES MAN, will be gone after this season ends. I am willing to wager on this! The Yankees will be much better off with a proven front office man that has the ability to formulate a long term strategy and most importantly sell it to Hank and the Yankee brass. Cashman arrived at Yankeeland as a child and almost instantly was promoted to Assistant GM with absolutely no accomplishments. For the past ten years he has been chasing a pennant trading farmland talent for has been stars only to fall miserably short. Yankee need a real GM who not can make a Paul Oneil or Greg Nettles trade to complement a complete player strategy. Time to rebuild the old fashion way...Cashman is not the guy!

Anyone who thinks the Yankees are in a position to win a pennant let alone a championship is just flat out dreaming!

 

 
 
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Pinch me...the Yankees beat the slumpin Mariners so now they are on their way to the World Series. Hey I would love to see that but I am a realistic sports fan. Yankees are short in a lot of areas and at least 2 years away from seriously contending for the pennant. In fact I do believe that Mr. Cashman, Steinbrenner's YES MAN, will be gone after this season ends. I am willing to wager on this! The Yankees will be much better off with a proven front office man that has the ability to formulate a long term strategy and most importantly sell it to Hank and the Yankee brass. Cashman arrived at Yankeeland as a child and almost instantly was promoted to Assistant GM with absolutely no accomplishments. For the past ten years he has been chasing a pennant trading farmland talent for has been stars only to fall miserably short. Yankee need a real GM who not can make a Paul Oneil or Greg Nettles trade to complement a complete player strategy. Time to rebuild the old fashion way...Cashman is not the guy!

Anyone who thinks the Yankees are in a position to win a pennant let alone a championship is just flat out dreaming!

 

listen up boys...another realistic post

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