vanzack-hunter...this board is full of people that like to argue to prove their own ignorance....everyone with a computer thinks they are an expert capper and everyone thinks they have the math to make this easy.....and if they arent good at it, they find a reason with their "idiot"math to prove why its futile to bet at all and its just luck....u try and teach and they dont want to listen as they already think their way is the only way......its laughable......nothing wrong with being a beginner at capping, just tell people, admit it and be humble...if u are a beginner capper i actually think a year on this board may take u backwards in your learning process instead of forwards 80% of the time...as the beginners are following beginners 80% of the time and dont know it
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Quote Originally Posted by GameHunter:
*epitomizes
vanzack-hunter...this board is full of people that like to argue to prove their own ignorance....everyone with a computer thinks they are an expert capper and everyone thinks they have the math to make this easy.....and if they arent good at it, they find a reason with their "idiot"math to prove why its futile to bet at all and its just luck....u try and teach and they dont want to listen as they already think their way is the only way......its laughable......nothing wrong with being a beginner at capping, just tell people, admit it and be humble...if u are a beginner capper i actually think a year on this board may take u backwards in your learning process instead of forwards 80% of the time...as the beginners are following beginners 80% of the time and dont know it
The initial post in this thread just eptimozies why most gamblers LOSE.
Please re-read Vanzack's posts. He tried to educate you and it all flew over your head.
My favorite line here is, "Find a team you like, don't look at the line."
Doesn't that contradict your underlying premise? If baseball is just a coin toss like you said and favorites will win 51% of the time and dogs 49% (by the way, there is no way favorites will win only 51% of the time) then the ONLY factor that would matter is the LINE, which you say we should all ignore.
You clearly shouldn't be gambling!
That's why trying to converse with this guy is an exercise in futility. He doesn't get it and he doesn't want to get it.
And you're right that he shouldnt be gambling. If he truly believes every game is a 50/50 proposition, and that lines are irrelevant, he would be just as well off gambling on coin tosses with his buddies.
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Quote Originally Posted by GameHunter:
The initial post in this thread just eptimozies why most gamblers LOSE.
Please re-read Vanzack's posts. He tried to educate you and it all flew over your head.
My favorite line here is, "Find a team you like, don't look at the line."
Doesn't that contradict your underlying premise? If baseball is just a coin toss like you said and favorites will win 51% of the time and dogs 49% (by the way, there is no way favorites will win only 51% of the time) then the ONLY factor that would matter is the LINE, which you say we should all ignore.
You clearly shouldn't be gambling!
That's why trying to converse with this guy is an exercise in futility. He doesn't get it and he doesn't want to get it.
And you're right that he shouldnt be gambling. If he truly believes every game is a 50/50 proposition, and that lines are irrelevant, he would be just as well off gambling on coin tosses with his buddies.
I gamble, and I win some and I lose some, just like everyone else does. Another fun fact, only 16 teams last year won over 50% of their games they played. So that means 14 teams won less than %50 of their games. Here is the funny part, 16 out of 30, Funny uh. Almost 50-50.
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I gamble, and I win some and I lose some, just like everyone else does. Another fun fact, only 16 teams last year won over 50% of their games they played. So that means 14 teams won less than %50 of their games. Here is the funny part, 16 out of 30, Funny uh. Almost 50-50.
vanzack-hunter...this board is full of people that like to argue to prove their own ignorance....everyone with a computer thinks they are an expert capper and everyone thinks they have the math to make this easy.....and if they arent good at it, they find a reason with their "idiot"math to prove why its futile to bet at all and its just luck....u try and teach and they dont want to listen as they already think their way is the only way......its laughable......nothing wrong with being a beginner at capping, just tell people, admit it and be humble...if u are a beginner capper i actually think a year on this board may take u backwards in your learning process instead of forwards 80% of the time...as the beginners are following beginners 80% of the time and dont know it
well said
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Quote Originally Posted by vincenzococotti:
vanzack-hunter...this board is full of people that like to argue to prove their own ignorance....everyone with a computer thinks they are an expert capper and everyone thinks they have the math to make this easy.....and if they arent good at it, they find a reason with their "idiot"math to prove why its futile to bet at all and its just luck....u try and teach and they dont want to listen as they already think their way is the only way......its laughable......nothing wrong with being a beginner at capping, just tell people, admit it and be humble...if u are a beginner capper i actually think a year on this board may take u backwards in your learning process instead of forwards 80% of the time...as the beginners are following beginners 80% of the time and dont know it
Dude if you think that baseball is a 50-50 proposition and 50% of the time the dogs will win and 50% of the time the favorite ... Do bet all Dogs all season and if you it them at 50% you will make a nice sum of money.
BOL
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Dude if you think that baseball is a 50-50 proposition and 50% of the time the dogs will win and 50% of the time the favorite ... Do bet all Dogs all season and if you it them at 50% you will make a nice sum of money.
Don't let Vanzack fool you with his "big" vocabulary, he is no more smarter than you are, or pick games better than you can.
Yeah - dont let anyone "fool" you with math or statistics.
If you think that favs and dogs will be close to 50% at the end of the year (which you have stated over and over), why are you not betting every single dog on the board every day? As D2 says about a day ago in this thread - you would make a killing.
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Quote Originally Posted by dcmc34f:
Don't let Vanzack fool you with his "big" vocabulary, he is no more smarter than you are, or pick games better than you can.
Yeah - dont let anyone "fool" you with math or statistics.
If you think that favs and dogs will be close to 50% at the end of the year (which you have stated over and over), why are you not betting every single dog on the board every day? As D2 says about a day ago in this thread - you would make a killing.
I gamble, and I win some and I lose some, just like everyone else does. Another fun fact, only 16 teams last year won over 50% of their games they played. So that means 14 teams won less than %50 of their games. Here is the funny part, 16 out of 30, Funny uh. Almost 50-50.
OMG. You cannot be serious.
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Quote Originally Posted by dcmc34f:
I gamble, and I win some and I lose some, just like everyone else does. Another fun fact, only 16 teams last year won over 50% of their games they played. So that means 14 teams won less than %50 of their games. Here is the funny part, 16 out of 30, Funny uh. Almost 50-50.
I gamble, and I win some and I lose some, just like everyone else does. Another fun fact, only 16 teams last year won over 50% of their games they played. So that means 14 teams won less than %50 of their games. Here is the funny part, 16 out of 30, Funny uh. Almost 50-50.
Here you make the same mistake - AGAIN - for the umpteenth time in this thread.
It doesn't matter that every team ends up 50% at the end of the year. That does not have any bearing on TODAY - on the game you are betting.
Today, a team that will go 50% over the season might be a -200 favorite. That doesnt mean that you should bet the dog. Your season numbers are irrelevant to today, and todays betting situation.
And BTW - if you think that favs only go 51% over the course of a season:
1. You should bet every dog every day. 2. You are on drugs. 3. I will be watching this system closely.
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Quote Originally Posted by dcmc34f:
I gamble, and I win some and I lose some, just like everyone else does. Another fun fact, only 16 teams last year won over 50% of their games they played. So that means 14 teams won less than %50 of their games. Here is the funny part, 16 out of 30, Funny uh. Almost 50-50.
Here you make the same mistake - AGAIN - for the umpteenth time in this thread.
It doesn't matter that every team ends up 50% at the end of the year. That does not have any bearing on TODAY - on the game you are betting.
Today, a team that will go 50% over the season might be a -200 favorite. That doesnt mean that you should bet the dog. Your season numbers are irrelevant to today, and todays betting situation.
And BTW - if you think that favs only go 51% over the course of a season:
1. You should bet every dog every day. 2. You are on drugs. 3. I will be watching this system closely.
Are you saying that over 16 teams played ball above .500 last year?
That has NO RELEVANCE to what you are going to bet TODAY.
Let me ask you this. A team has 4 starting pitchers over a course of a season. They are: Sabathia, Lincecum, Tallet, and Maine. The team finishes at 50%. Are you trying to tell me that you have a 50% chance of winning when Sabathia or Lincecum are pitching rather than Tallet or Maine?
You cant be serious. We are bordering on moronic, even for covers standards.
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Quote Originally Posted by dcmc34f:
Are you saying that over 16 teams played ball above .500 last year?
That has NO RELEVANCE to what you are going to bet TODAY.
Let me ask you this. A team has 4 starting pitchers over a course of a season. They are: Sabathia, Lincecum, Tallet, and Maine. The team finishes at 50%. Are you trying to tell me that you have a 50% chance of winning when Sabathia or Lincecum are pitching rather than Tallet or Maine?
You cant be serious. We are bordering on moronic, even for covers standards.
Hey, Vanzack, if the Colts played the Rams with this years team, 100 times, 50 home, 50 in St Louis. How many times do you think the Rams would win the game. Would like to know your answer please, just a simple question.
The flaw in your overall argument can be found in this post ^^... You speak of games as if they are true coin flips when they are not; the line tells you that that is simply not true. You can't say how to play those 100 games if you don't know the line, because there's no way you're playing the Rams 100 times if they're paying +110. However, if they're paying +1100 every game, it'd be hard NOT to take them at that price.
But what happens is that we would get a difference price for each game, and it would be up to the CAPPER to decide when is a good time to play each side respectively.
So although I whole-heartedly believe that every single method of picking games will result in the same (losses), that does not mean that probability will suddenly depict outcomes.
And anyone who tells me that they're profiting from gambling, you're either lying or haven't played long enough. The only way to win is like the sharps do: predict line movements (or move the line yourself if you have the money) and position yourself for a risk-free double win.
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Quote Originally Posted by dcmc34f:
Hey, Vanzack, if the Colts played the Rams with this years team, 100 times, 50 home, 50 in St Louis. How many times do you think the Rams would win the game. Would like to know your answer please, just a simple question.
The flaw in your overall argument can be found in this post ^^... You speak of games as if they are true coin flips when they are not; the line tells you that that is simply not true. You can't say how to play those 100 games if you don't know the line, because there's no way you're playing the Rams 100 times if they're paying +110. However, if they're paying +1100 every game, it'd be hard NOT to take them at that price.
But what happens is that we would get a difference price for each game, and it would be up to the CAPPER to decide when is a good time to play each side respectively.
So although I whole-heartedly believe that every single method of picking games will result in the same (losses), that does not mean that probability will suddenly depict outcomes.
And anyone who tells me that they're profiting from gambling, you're either lying or haven't played long enough. The only way to win is like the sharps do: predict line movements (or move the line yourself if you have the money) and position yourself for a risk-free double win.
LOL. I believe you are one of the "people that like to argue to prove their own innocence," that vincenzococotti was referencing in his post. I could be wrong, however.
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Quote Originally Posted by dcmc34f:
well said
LOL. I believe you are one of the "people that like to argue to prove their own innocence," that vincenzococotti was referencing in his post. I could be wrong, however.
Have you ever tried it? I am telling you, at season's end, the favs \will be at 51% and dogs at 49%, just wait and see. It worked last year too.
I'm guessing you are 21 years old or younger....first off, last year, I believe that if you played all dogs last year, you lost for the season so there is not way it was a 51/49% split....the fact that 16 teams had winning records and 14 losing records doesn't do anything to account for the fact that many times, the winning teams are underdogs and many times the losing teams are favorites....and you are still a walking paradox because your theory says favorites will win only 51% of the time but then you argue that we should just ignore lines.....I can't waste anymore time. Best of luck.
Vanzack knows more about gambling than you ever will.....do yourself a favorite and stop acting like you know what you are talking about and try to learn something
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Quote Originally Posted by dcmc34f:
Have you ever tried it? I am telling you, at season's end, the favs \will be at 51% and dogs at 49%, just wait and see. It worked last year too.
I'm guessing you are 21 years old or younger....first off, last year, I believe that if you played all dogs last year, you lost for the season so there is not way it was a 51/49% split....the fact that 16 teams had winning records and 14 losing records doesn't do anything to account for the fact that many times, the winning teams are underdogs and many times the losing teams are favorites....and you are still a walking paradox because your theory says favorites will win only 51% of the time but then you argue that we should just ignore lines.....I can't waste anymore time. Best of luck.
Vanzack knows more about gambling than you ever will.....do yourself a favorite and stop acting like you know what you are talking about and try to learn something
Have you ever tried it? I am telling you, at season's end, the favs \will be at 51% and dogs at 49%, just wait and see. It worked last year too.
By my quick calculations - last year (season 2009) favorites were 57.4%.
I will make a bet with you that there hasnt been a season in the last 10 that favs were only 51%, and I will give you 2-1 odds. For real money. And Im not kidding. You get 10 seasons - if any one of them favs were 51% I will pay you 2-1.
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Quote Originally Posted by dcmc34f:
Have you ever tried it? I am telling you, at season's end, the favs \will be at 51% and dogs at 49%, just wait and see. It worked last year too.
By my quick calculations - last year (season 2009) favorites were 57.4%.
I will make a bet with you that there hasnt been a season in the last 10 that favs were only 51%, and I will give you 2-1 odds. For real money. And Im not kidding. You get 10 seasons - if any one of them favs were 51% I will pay you 2-1.
You are so correect.These guys that use all this slang bullcrtap is very funny.THey don't know shit about who is going to be on/off in a certain day.Its all bigshot and showcase talk.Luck is the main key.
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You are so correect.These guys that use all this slang bullcrtap is very funny.THey don't know shit about who is going to be on/off in a certain day.Its all bigshot and showcase talk.Luck is the main key.
alot in baseball. Don't you people realize that in baseball it's a 50/50 chance of winning on every game played. You are just wasting your time, "Capping". Example, yesterday with Little Timmy L pitching, the Giants are still only going to win that game between 4, 4.5, 5, 5.5 or 6 times out of 10. The Nationals are going to beat the Philllys 40%-60% of the time they play them. The Phillys are going to beat the Braves 45%-55% of the time, and so on and so on. Find a team you like, don't look at the line, and play it. Of games played this year won, Favs 102,or 59%, Dogs, 70, or 41%, pretty close. Next month it will be 53% Fav winners, 47% Dog winners. So "Cap" away.
What are your thought's on Betting Red or Black on the roulette table. Maybe that's something you wish to cap...
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Quote Originally Posted by dcmc34f:
alot in baseball. Don't you people realize that in baseball it's a 50/50 chance of winning on every game played. You are just wasting your time, "Capping". Example, yesterday with Little Timmy L pitching, the Giants are still only going to win that game between 4, 4.5, 5, 5.5 or 6 times out of 10. The Nationals are going to beat the Philllys 40%-60% of the time they play them. The Phillys are going to beat the Braves 45%-55% of the time, and so on and so on. Find a team you like, don't look at the line, and play it. Of games played this year won, Favs 102,or 59%, Dogs, 70, or 41%, pretty close. Next month it will be 53% Fav winners, 47% Dog winners. So "Cap" away.
What are your thought's on Betting Red or Black on the roulette table. Maybe that's something you wish to cap...
You are so correect.These guys that use all this slang bullcrtap is very funny.THey don't know shit about who is going to be on/off in a certain day.Its all bigshot and showcase talk.Luck is the main key.
Thank ya dude, keep up the intelligent talk, someone with some sense here. GL to you
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Quote Originally Posted by jsab:
You are so correect.These guys that use all this slang bullcrtap is very funny.THey don't know shit about who is going to be on/off in a certain day.Its all bigshot and showcase talk.Luck is the main key.
Thank ya dude, keep up the intelligent talk, someone with some sense here. GL to you
Thank ya dude, keep up the intelligent talk, someone with some sense here. GL to you
I repeat - because you ignore:
By my quick calculations - last year (season 2009) favorites were 57.4%.
I
will make a bet with you that there hasnt been a season in the last 10
that favs were only 51%, and I will give you 2-1 odds. For real
money. And Im not kidding. You get 10 seasons - if any one of them
favs were 51% I will pay you 2-1.
Ignore away.....
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Quote Originally Posted by dcmc34f:
Thank ya dude, keep up the intelligent talk, someone with some sense here. GL to you
I repeat - because you ignore:
By my quick calculations - last year (season 2009) favorites were 57.4%.
I
will make a bet with you that there hasnt been a season in the last 10
that favs were only 51%, and I will give you 2-1 odds. For real
money. And Im not kidding. You get 10 seasons - if any one of them
favs were 51% I will pay you 2-1.
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