No contribution on my part yet but let me me be the first to post this.......
"The Yankees are LOADED this year."
Some Northeastern dunderhead always posts that so we may as well get it out of the way
No contribution on my part yet but let me me be the first to post this.......
"The Yankees are LOADED this year."
Some Northeastern dunderhead always posts that so we may as well get it out of the way
No contribution on my part yet but let me me be the first to post this.......
"The Yankees are LOADED this year."
Some Northeastern dunderhead always posts that so we may as well get it out of the way
@undermysac
You kidding me? There are at least 10 million Yankee fans that are already sold on next year the day after the Yankees are eliminated for from the playoffs. They have become the Dodgers of the 1950's. It is always "next year is our year". They will put 20 billion dollars and lots of entertainment on the field to sell $400 box seats, but trophies don't cash at the bank. Trophies are for romanticists, money is of interest to commercial interests. George was the end of any Yankee desire for trophies. "Show me the money" has been the rule ever since.
@undermysac
You kidding me? There are at least 10 million Yankee fans that are already sold on next year the day after the Yankees are eliminated for from the playoffs. They have become the Dodgers of the 1950's. It is always "next year is our year". They will put 20 billion dollars and lots of entertainment on the field to sell $400 box seats, but trophies don't cash at the bank. Trophies are for romanticists, money is of interest to commercial interests. George was the end of any Yankee desire for trophies. "Show me the money" has been the rule ever since.
Jose Abreu to the Astros. November 28 and they are working on next year's World Series trophy. Nothing like dedication.
Money, brains, player development from high school to the World Series, and a desire to WIN.
For me? Peace, love, baseball, apple pie and America. What's not to love?
Jose Abreu to the Astros. November 28 and they are working on next year's World Series trophy. Nothing like dedication.
Money, brains, player development from high school to the World Series, and a desire to WIN.
For me? Peace, love, baseball, apple pie and America. What's not to love?
Solid move for the Stros. Abreu always was and still is a tough out at the plate.
A career .292 batter. Last year he recorded his lowest strike out rate at 16.2%, and second highest BB rate at 9.1%.
Being in a lineup of like minded batters, pitching through this lineup will be a tall task imo.
Solid move for the Stros. Abreu always was and still is a tough out at the plate.
A career .292 batter. Last year he recorded his lowest strike out rate at 16.2%, and second highest BB rate at 9.1%.
Being in a lineup of like minded batters, pitching through this lineup will be a tall task imo.
JEG, where are you? Posting and PM's have not reached you! I'm back.
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Healthy and cognitive (well, mostly)
Get yo' arse in here boy!
Perfect Storm. As I have stated before, MLB, although a sport, is part and parcel of the entertainment industry. Revenue supersedes all. There is a reason Tom Cruise gets $25 million plus per film and other very good actors get 10. He puts butts in the seats!
So, Aaron Judge is looking at $30 million plus for the long term. Obviously it makes sense for him, but it does for the Yankees too. He puts butts in the seats!
The Yankees have very expensive seats to sell. Catering to the fans entertainment demands is far more important than stuffing trophies in a case. I say he gets it and passes Trout in the AAV category, north of $35.5 million per year. Wanna scream about it? Think Ohtani, when his turn comes
And us "old boys" can remember the chaotic rage when Nolan Ryan became the first MILLION DOLLAR MAN.
https://www.mlb.com/news/aaron-judge-rumors
Perfect Storm. As I have stated before, MLB, although a sport, is part and parcel of the entertainment industry. Revenue supersedes all. There is a reason Tom Cruise gets $25 million plus per film and other very good actors get 10. He puts butts in the seats!
So, Aaron Judge is looking at $30 million plus for the long term. Obviously it makes sense for him, but it does for the Yankees too. He puts butts in the seats!
The Yankees have very expensive seats to sell. Catering to the fans entertainment demands is far more important than stuffing trophies in a case. I say he gets it and passes Trout in the AAV category, north of $35.5 million per year. Wanna scream about it? Think Ohtani, when his turn comes
And us "old boys" can remember the chaotic rage when Nolan Ryan became the first MILLION DOLLAR MAN.
https://www.mlb.com/news/aaron-judge-rumors
Giving Judge $300 mil is downright stupid, and a waste of money for a guy who will be 31 next year, when his contract will supposedly begin. He will probably take whatever the Yankees give him, the Giants wont give out such a contract to anyone, hell they didn't even give it to Madbum, and the guy basically won them a WS all by himself. Ok the guy has to be repaid for this season, I get that, but this was his career season, he wont be able to replicate it.
So imagine this, if the Yankees do sign Judge, for $300 mil, this will mean that next year they will pay a total of $105.5 mil to just 3 guys: Cole, Stanton and Judge + I almost forgot, add to that $21 mil for Donaldson, so NY will pay 4 guys $126.5 out of the $233 mil luxury tax, projected for 2023. They will probably go over the luxury tax, they can surely afford it, but my point is they wont be competitive, at least not as long as Cashman is the manager.
Meh, this world has gone mad...
Giving Judge $300 mil is downright stupid, and a waste of money for a guy who will be 31 next year, when his contract will supposedly begin. He will probably take whatever the Yankees give him, the Giants wont give out such a contract to anyone, hell they didn't even give it to Madbum, and the guy basically won them a WS all by himself. Ok the guy has to be repaid for this season, I get that, but this was his career season, he wont be able to replicate it.
So imagine this, if the Yankees do sign Judge, for $300 mil, this will mean that next year they will pay a total of $105.5 mil to just 3 guys: Cole, Stanton and Judge + I almost forgot, add to that $21 mil for Donaldson, so NY will pay 4 guys $126.5 out of the $233 mil luxury tax, projected for 2023. They will probably go over the luxury tax, they can surely afford it, but my point is they wont be competitive, at least not as long as Cashman is the manager.
Meh, this world has gone mad...
@yaongingy
I think they will pay it, and what if Judge is another Ryan or Verlander and plays to age 40? Six years at $35 million would not surprise me, just so he can pass Trout for AAV honors until someone opens up Fort Knox for Ohtani
As for Cashman, I couldn't agree more. A bottomless check book does not make a G.M. a great G.M. Dombrosky is the same sort. When he interviews his first question is "What's your payroll budget?" If he can't buy a team, he can't produce one.
Some of these guys are like the guy driving a Lincoln, but his mother is making the payments
@yaongingy
I think they will pay it, and what if Judge is another Ryan or Verlander and plays to age 40? Six years at $35 million would not surprise me, just so he can pass Trout for AAV honors until someone opens up Fort Knox for Ohtani
As for Cashman, I couldn't agree more. A bottomless check book does not make a G.M. a great G.M. Dombrosky is the same sort. When he interviews his first question is "What's your payroll budget?" If he can't buy a team, he can't produce one.
Some of these guys are like the guy driving a Lincoln, but his mother is making the payments
@KeyElement
I don't see how a guy of his size plays for that long, at a high level, it's a waste of money either way, the only unknown will be for how many years will they overpay, 2-3? The rumors were he wanted to be the biggest payed position player, so Trout is at a little over $35 mil, the Yankees are giving him $37.5 mil, now the problem is he wants more years?! For a guy who portrays himself as a standout christian he sure is greedy... NY will probably go to a 8 years/$320 mil offer, as their ceiling probably.
Cashman is just... how many more years do you give a guy to win another WS? It's been 13 years since his last one and the Yankees haven't even played a WS since then! I don't think they don't want to win a WS, but as long as the money comes in I guess it really doesn't bother them. Last time I checked, a game @ Yankee Stadium brings in ~$6 mil. If doing the same thing over and over again doesn't work, bring in somebody new with a different approach, especially since the money aren't an issue.
Speaking of Verlander, rumors say he wants a 3 year/$120 mil, which is absolutely insane, for a 39 years old guy.
The Winter Meetings being Sunday in San Diego, so next we will probably see some big contracts being handed out, although I think all the other big FAs on the market are waiting to see for how much Judge will sign...
@KeyElement
I don't see how a guy of his size plays for that long, at a high level, it's a waste of money either way, the only unknown will be for how many years will they overpay, 2-3? The rumors were he wanted to be the biggest payed position player, so Trout is at a little over $35 mil, the Yankees are giving him $37.5 mil, now the problem is he wants more years?! For a guy who portrays himself as a standout christian he sure is greedy... NY will probably go to a 8 years/$320 mil offer, as their ceiling probably.
Cashman is just... how many more years do you give a guy to win another WS? It's been 13 years since his last one and the Yankees haven't even played a WS since then! I don't think they don't want to win a WS, but as long as the money comes in I guess it really doesn't bother them. Last time I checked, a game @ Yankee Stadium brings in ~$6 mil. If doing the same thing over and over again doesn't work, bring in somebody new with a different approach, especially since the money aren't an issue.
Speaking of Verlander, rumors say he wants a 3 year/$120 mil, which is absolutely insane, for a 39 years old guy.
The Winter Meetings being Sunday in San Diego, so next we will probably see some big contracts being handed out, although I think all the other big FAs on the market are waiting to see for how much Judge will sign...
Just heard this. What a strange signing. Is Degrom from Texas?
Just heard this. What a strange signing. Is Degrom from Texas?
Yanks should just do 6 years 230 mill. with a 2 or 3 year option for when he is 37 and probably hasnt played a full season in a couple years.
THATS 38.33 million per. Its open ended if either judge or yanks are sour and throw in some incentives like
mvp 250k
triple crown 300k
74 HR's 400k
Yanks should just do 6 years 230 mill. with a 2 or 3 year option for when he is 37 and probably hasnt played a full season in a couple years.
THATS 38.33 million per. Its open ended if either judge or yanks are sour and throw in some incentives like
mvp 250k
triple crown 300k
74 HR's 400k
@undermysac
He is from Florida.
The deal is done: 5 years $185 mil contract, which includes a 6th year option that would take the total deal to $222 mil, also full no-trade clause. All this for a 34 years old guy, so I guess it makes sense for him to take the money, but what are the Rangers thinking here?! You add a guy like this as piece of a missing puzzle, the Rangers are nowhere near that. The Mets are far more solid, in terms of being competitive, their only problem is that they are.... the Mets. It seems they offered him 3 years $120 mil deal, but it was too late, he already was in deep talks with the Rangers.
This contract sets a high bar, lets see what Verlander and Rodon are gonna get.
@undermysac
He is from Florida.
The deal is done: 5 years $185 mil contract, which includes a 6th year option that would take the total deal to $222 mil, also full no-trade clause. All this for a 34 years old guy, so I guess it makes sense for him to take the money, but what are the Rangers thinking here?! You add a guy like this as piece of a missing puzzle, the Rangers are nowhere near that. The Mets are far more solid, in terms of being competitive, their only problem is that they are.... the Mets. It seems they offered him 3 years $120 mil deal, but it was too late, he already was in deep talks with the Rangers.
This contract sets a high bar, lets see what Verlander and Rodon are gonna get.
@yaongingy
can't see Verlander getting more than 3 years somewhere ........ most likely 5-6 for Rodon.
I hope one of them ends up in TX with Degrom
@yaongingy
can't see Verlander getting more than 3 years somewhere ........ most likely 5-6 for Rodon.
I hope one of them ends up in TX with Degrom
To give out a 3 years contract to a guy who will be 40, when the season starts next year, is a huge gamble.
Rodon will be 30 next week, the guy has the stuff and is worthy of 5-6 years contract.
I think the Rangers made their play, what it's baffling to me, and other people, is that if they had the money why not go for Rodon? deGrom has barely played in the last 2 years, he is much older, prone to injuries, it seems like the Rangers wanted to make a splash and deGrom just took the money.
To give out a 3 years contract to a guy who will be 40, when the season starts next year, is a huge gamble.
Rodon will be 30 next week, the guy has the stuff and is worthy of 5-6 years contract.
I think the Rangers made their play, what it's baffling to me, and other people, is that if they had the money why not go for Rodon? deGrom has barely played in the last 2 years, he is much older, prone to injuries, it seems like the Rangers wanted to make a splash and deGrom just took the money.
You can set your watch to a Degrom injury the last 3 years.
It first starts with fatigue, they skip a start to give him rest. Then it's forearm tightness. And then he disappears for 2 months.
And when he comes back is when the Mets need him most. But he's on an innings count.
Throwing 99+ is impressive, but not sustainable. He's at that point in his career where he needs to learn to take something off, and "pitch". Rather than trying to smoke every batter till his arm falls off.
You can set your watch to a Degrom injury the last 3 years.
It first starts with fatigue, they skip a start to give him rest. Then it's forearm tightness. And then he disappears for 2 months.
And when he comes back is when the Mets need him most. But he's on an innings count.
Throwing 99+ is impressive, but not sustainable. He's at that point in his career where he needs to learn to take something off, and "pitch". Rather than trying to smoke every batter till his arm falls off.
@undermysac
The guy was 5-4 last season so of course Texas gives him a 5 year 185 million which puts him behind Max for yearly salary, plus he could make 222 million with bonus. My guess is just getting over 20 starts would kick it in, unreal contract for a guy that will 45 at end of deal.
Which makes me ask if he gets that how about the WS winner with a nice 19-4 record, plus married to one of the hottest models, what is a team going to pay Verlander and Kate.
@undermysac
The guy was 5-4 last season so of course Texas gives him a 5 year 185 million which puts him behind Max for yearly salary, plus he could make 222 million with bonus. My guess is just getting over 20 starts would kick it in, unreal contract for a guy that will 45 at end of deal.
Which makes me ask if he gets that how about the WS winner with a nice 19-4 record, plus married to one of the hottest models, what is a team going to pay Verlander and Kate.
@KeyElement
Well Well look who is still alive, was starting to wonder why your wife had not sent me an email telling me you passed the torch. Good to see your not on your death bed and posting on covers again.
I got nothing as far as check ins from you, you also did not answer my email after a few direct messages, in case you do not know what DM means. It is good to see you back here, I seem to remember last year being your last. Now that I am all the way retired and was thinking of moving to Pa. to root for my Eagles, well now that 49ers are in first guess I will stay here for a bit longer.
And that Yankee Roid user will get more than 300 million imo.
@KeyElement
Well Well look who is still alive, was starting to wonder why your wife had not sent me an email telling me you passed the torch. Good to see your not on your death bed and posting on covers again.
I got nothing as far as check ins from you, you also did not answer my email after a few direct messages, in case you do not know what DM means. It is good to see you back here, I seem to remember last year being your last. Now that I am all the way retired and was thinking of moving to Pa. to root for my Eagles, well now that 49ers are in first guess I will stay here for a bit longer.
And that Yankee Roid user will get more than 300 million imo.
Justin Verlander signs a 2 year deal with the Mets. Reuniting with his old teammate Max Scherzer from their Tigers days. With emphasis on "old".
What JV did last year was nothing short of spectacular, given he missed 2021 with Tommy John's.
Justin Verlander signs a 2 year deal with the Mets. Reuniting with his old teammate Max Scherzer from their Tigers days. With emphasis on "old".
What JV did last year was nothing short of spectacular, given he missed 2021 with Tommy John's.
So he goes to the Mets on a two-year, $86 million contract with a $35 million vesting option for 2025, if he pitches 140 innings in 2024.
Unreal, $86 mil for a guy who will be 40, when the season starts next year... so get this, Verlander's $43.33 mil average annual value ties the major league record, which is held by... Scherzer. Here is a mind numbing stat: In just Verlander and Scherzer, the Mets have a payroll higher than 5 teams last year - Marlins, Guardians, Pirates, Orioles and A's - ridiculous... oh wait, there is more: if you add Lindor's contract it goes up to $120 mil, to just 3 guys, which passes the Mariners, Reds, Royals, Rays and Diamondbacks.
Kershaw signs a one-year, $20 mil deal with a 5 mil signing bonus with the Dodgers.
Rodon is rumored to be seeking 6 years at around $30 mil/year.
So he goes to the Mets on a two-year, $86 million contract with a $35 million vesting option for 2025, if he pitches 140 innings in 2024.
Unreal, $86 mil for a guy who will be 40, when the season starts next year... so get this, Verlander's $43.33 mil average annual value ties the major league record, which is held by... Scherzer. Here is a mind numbing stat: In just Verlander and Scherzer, the Mets have a payroll higher than 5 teams last year - Marlins, Guardians, Pirates, Orioles and A's - ridiculous... oh wait, there is more: if you add Lindor's contract it goes up to $120 mil, to just 3 guys, which passes the Mariners, Reds, Royals, Rays and Diamondbacks.
Kershaw signs a one-year, $20 mil deal with a 5 mil signing bonus with the Dodgers.
Rodon is rumored to be seeking 6 years at around $30 mil/year.
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