Adam Jones

And heres a little info URISS... The MLB does not release revenue sharing numbers. The only numbers known to be available are the ones in this article https://bizofbaseball.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3760&Itemid=178

2002: PAID $5.3 million
2003: received $250k
2005: received $2 million

Authorities mistaken him for Pacman Jones the football player....

No I said Jones would become an AS and gold glover for years to come and you said no, no, no.... ANd then it happened more quickly than I expected.

I never said Jones would be a beast offensively. I said he would be a 280ish hitter with 25-30 hr power. He has struggled this year for a number of reasons and when I get the article with quotes from scouts from around the league, I will post it for you to read.

Also in hsi past 16 games he is batting .328/.359/.422

https://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/orioles/blog/2010/05/scouts_talk_adam_jones.html

Scout No. 1 on Jones

“He’s not the same guy we saw last year that would drive that breaking ball to right center. He stayed on the breaking ball so much better. He didn’t try to hit the three-run home run. I think with that 2-16 start, everybody started feeling a little pressure by not scoring runs.”

“[He’s not overrated] in my mind. I just think he is trying to do too much because the Orioles haven’t been scoring runs. And that has added more pressure on a young player like him because there has been so much of a buildup. Hitting three-run homers is not his game. His homers will come when he stays within himself and drives the ball to right, right center.”

“Without a doubt, I think Jones is going to become a really good player. If the Orioles are interested in trading him, I’d certainly be interested. I think in the long haul those guys will come out of it. Jones will come out of it.”

Scout No. 2

“In his case, the expectations were very high. And you saw what happened right off the bat. They lose their leadoff hitter and all of the sudden he is thrust into a situation he is very unaccustomed to. He is not that type of a guy and you don’t know what’s going through a young guy’s mind when he’s thrust into a role and situation he’s never been in before. You tend to put pressure on yourself and sometimes you think you have to be too successful.”

“Conversely, this year he got off to a bad start and you have to give him time, we’re a third of the way into the season. He has a long way to go and he can pick it up. On the other hand, he’s not in the same (lineup) position and does not have the same protection and all of those factors go into how well a player is playing.”

“Early on he was known as a bit of a free swinger and when he was thrust into the top of the order he reverted back to that and I think the reason was because he felt the need to get on base. When I see him now, he still has the tendency and penchant for chasing pitches out of the strike zone. It’s something he’s always done. And the only way to get better at that is to get out there and experience those situations and learn not to do that.”

“I don’t necessarily see a regression. What I see is a guy that is still growing. He hasn’t played more than two full seasons in the big leagues yet and that is not a lot of time. It’s a very small sample. He’s a toolsy player learning his craft at the major league level and that’s not easy. Some of the things that make you the player you are sometimes can make you look bad as well. Baseball is a humbling experience.”

Scout No. 3

“A lot of things came so fast for him, but the league caught up for him. I watch Adam Jones hit and you talk about somebody that is not only identifying pitches and seeing the ball. You don’t have to throw a strike to get him out. Why would you? Until he makes adjustments, he won’t be able to bring the raw power. They have figured him out and he hasn’t made adjustments to counteract that.”

“I think he’s getting help, but he doesn’t have the confidence. He looks like a young hitter who is chasing everything. What the heck is he doing sometimes? There’s no reason he shouldn’t hit 25 to 30 homers, but he gets himself out so much and doesn’t get into hitter counts. He’s messed up right now. I’m worried about him.”

Scout's 3 take is negative but based on what scout 1 and 2 said it is possible that scout 3's take is because he was put in a position he was not comfortable with and he is trying to do too much right now.

matt wieters is now riding the bench for my fantasy, he sucks too, giving buster posey a try, cant be worse

I was waiting for you to show your face and make excuses and only show 2 years worth of crap for your argument... Sorry Pero your ownership is a joke and it reflects on the team the orioles put on the field ever day

Do you know how to read??

There are only 3 known years of released data by the MLB for revenue sharing. I showed all 3 years.

Crawl back under your rock and keep your lies and fairy tales ot yourself. Unless you can back up what you post, dont post it, because I will poke holes in your misinformation all day.

Ok no problem just give me a sec... Why don;t you also look up how much money the Yankees have paid out as well!

Pero I've always hated your bullshit

What's up with you and small sample sizes? 16 games? You said that a problem with the O's offense was that they lost Pie because he was batting .400 in 20 at bats this season.

Since 2003 the Yankees have paid out



$174,183,419

Refer to what you wrote in post 22.

If you dont want the right answers then dont ask the questions.

Unless you give a link or something...jpero will be like Obama and beat around the bush and bring up a bunch of other stuff to try and make you look foolish.

The story, through the originating ESPN New York piece, and then subsequently through the New York Daily News, NESN, SNY, and USA Today, cite BizofBaseball.com’s Luxury Tax data (click the image provided above to access) to frame some dollar figures around the initial story:

In the initial seven years of the luxury tax, the Yankees have paid teams nearly $175 million in revenue sharing, according to the BizofBaseball.com. That is 92 percent of the total revenue sharing that has been doled out.

The story is a good one, and highlights the concerns around revenue-sharing, but we want to clarify how the Luxury Tax functions in relationship to revenue-sharing:

In the initial seven years of the luxury tax, the Yankees have paid teams nearly $175 million in revenue sharing…

• It’s important to note that money collected through the Luxury Tax is not part of revenue-sharing. Most of the money collected through the system actually goes back to the players in the form of benefits. Revenue-sharing dollars are derived from local revenues such as ticket sales, local broadcast deals, concessions, parking, etc.
• The total amount of revenue-sharing money that moved from high-revenue to low-revenue makers was $433 million, according to sources at Major League Baseball. The league would not disclose how much each club paid or received.

That is 92 percent of the total revenue sharing that has been doled out.

• If you change the above to this, it would be correct: The Yankees have paid 92 percent of the total amount of luxury tax money that has been collected since the system was put in place.

I know I'm done going back and forth... i don't need a link Pero knows that figure is correct... hes a cry baby

"The luxury tax is basically a tax on being successful. If some of these teams/owners can't keep up, sell the team to someone that has self-motivation, drive, and personal ambition to get the job done. You already have the formula for success in running a baseball team.....the New york Yankees and George Steinbrener. Give your fans what they deserve, which is a contender, not a cry baby. Its easy to be a quitter and blame your surroundings for your problems. Spend some sleepless nights and come up with a plan or get out of the business. Your choice."


JPERO cry me a fucking river

That has nothing to do with the Orioles like you asked. So you jsut sidestepped your whole point because you didnt want to look like a fool about yoru comment about the Orioles receiving money and pocketing the money.

I already spent the whole summer debunking the revenue sharing system and how the money teh Yankees pay into it is nothing.

As I said before it is a bribe by the large market teams to keep the small-mid market teams from revolting against them and demanding a new system.

You are so foolish.

You make an inaccurate comment about hte Orioles receiving money and pocketing it and then I hsow you wrong and you start blabbing about the Yankees and waht they pay. I never mentioned the Yankees, never said anything about what they pay... I responding to your nonsense about the Orioles and showed you actual figures, the only known figures available, that completely debunked your swiss cheese assertion.

Your a sad soul...to be a fan of one team is fine and one thing. but to be delusional is just sad

Cant back up your original claim so you create a side subject to divert attention from your original comment and blunder.

You mean the piece of swis cheese adam jones and weiters bring to the plate 4 times a night?  Keep buying into your ownership telling you about the great rookies, promising upcoming stars bulshit while they take the money and live luxuriously...  While you cry every night and make excuses for them

shake hands and make up fellas, neither Adam Jones nor the Orioles are worth bitching about....instead, let's all focus on the season ahead

Matusz seems to only be able to pitch well against the Yanks. That will make them contenders for YEARS to come.

It's true jpero. You are buying into the hype and hoping for the best. The Rays have turned from worst to first. That's a once in a lifetime accomplishment. Don't expect it again. The O's should ask to switch places with the Nationals because even the Jays are starting to prove their place. The O's are too far behind now.

This is so true...but jpero tries to make them relevant. But this conversation went off topic.