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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2012 - 10:03 AM ET #1



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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2012 - 10:05 AM ET #2

    TOP 30 PITCHERS LAST 30 DAYS:
    (UPDATED THROUGH GAMES PLAYED 8/19)

    #01 Jordan Zimmermann (28)
    #02 David Price (25)
    #03 Madison Bumgarner  (20)
    #03 Kris Medlen (7)
    #05 Johnny Cueto (35)
    #05 Adam Wainwright (15)
    #07 J.A. Happ (88) 
    #08 Hiroki Kuroda (51)
    #09 Max Scherzer (32)
    #10 Clayton Kershaw (22)
    #11 James Shields (37)
    #12 R.A. Dickey (6)
    #13 Doug Fister (17)
    #14 Wade Miley (33)
    #15 Patrick Corbin (69)
    #16 CC Sabathia (21)
    #17 Alex Cobb (47)
    #18 Matt Moore (125)
    #19 Justin Verlander (12)
    #20 Stephen Strasburg (4)
    #21 Mark Rogers (5)
    #22 Chris Capuano  (55)
    #23 Roy Halladay (23)
    #24 Felix Hernandez (23)
    #25 Rick Porcello (82)
    #26 Mike Fiers (13)
    #27 David Phelps (113)
    #28 A.J. Griffin (68)
    #29 Cliff Lee (19)
    #30 Paul Maholm (91)

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    TOP 30 PITCHERS LAST 30 DAYS:
    (UPDATED THROUGH GAMES PLAYED 8/19)

    #01 Jordan Zimmermann (28)
    #02 David Price (25)
    #03 Madison Bumgarner  (20)
    #03 Kris Medlen (7)
    #05 Johnny Cueto (35)
    #05 Adam Wainwright (15)
    #07 J.A. Happ (88) 
    #08 Hiroki Kuroda (51)
    #09 Max Scherzer (32)
    #10 Clayton Kershaw (22)
    #11 James Shields (37)
    #12 R.A. Dickey (6)
    #13 Doug Fister (17)
    #14 Wade Miley (33)
    #15 Patrick Corbin (69)
    #16 CC Sabathia (21)
    #17 Alex Cobb (47)
    #18 Matt Moore (125)
    #19 Justin Verlander (12)
    #20 Stephen Strasburg (4)
    #21 Mark Rogers (5)
    #22 Chris Capuano  (55)
    #23 Roy Halladay (23)
    #24 Felix Hernandez (23)
    #25 Rick Porcello (82)
    #26 Mike Fiers (13)
    #27 David Phelps (113)
    #28 A.J. Griffin (68)
    #29 Cliff Lee (19)
    #30 Paul Maholm (91)

     
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    BOTTOM 30 PITCHERS LAST 30 DAYS:
    (UPDATED THROUGH GAMES PLAYED 8/19)

    #135 Edinson Volquez (158)
    #136 Kip Wells (211)
    #137 Nathan Eovaldi  (171)
    #138 Travis Wood (207)
    #139 Ricky Romero (200)
    #140 John Lannan (184)
    #141 Corey Kluber (142)
    #142 Aaron Cook (189)
    #143 Wandy Rodriguez (132)
    #144 Garrett Richards (194)
    #144 Franklin Morales (71)
    #146 Mark Buehrle (112)
    #147 Alex White (167)
    #147 Ross Ohlendorf (212)
    #147 Nick Blackburn (198)
    #150 Luke Hochevar  (137)
    #151 Henderson Alvarez (176)
    #151 Gavin Floyd (154)
    #153 Brooks Raley (206)
    #154 Dan Haren (101)
    #155 Samuel Deduno (236)
    #156 Chris Young (187)
    #157 Stephen Fife (244)
    #158 Dallas Keuchel (214)
    #159 Aaron Laffey (173)
    #160 Chris Seddon (215)
    #161 Josh Beckett (126)
    #162 Jonathan Sanchez (225)
    #163 Armando Galarraga (219)
    #164 Philip Humber (189)

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    BOTTOM 30 PITCHERS LAST 30 DAYS:
    (UPDATED THROUGH GAMES PLAYED 8/19)

    #135 Edinson Volquez (158)
    #136 Kip Wells (211)
    #137 Nathan Eovaldi  (171)
    #138 Travis Wood (207)
    #139 Ricky Romero (200)
    #140 John Lannan (184)
    #141 Corey Kluber (142)
    #142 Aaron Cook (189)
    #143 Wandy Rodriguez (132)
    #144 Garrett Richards (194)
    #144 Franklin Morales (71)
    #146 Mark Buehrle (112)
    #147 Alex White (167)
    #147 Ross Ohlendorf (212)
    #147 Nick Blackburn (198)
    #150 Luke Hochevar  (137)
    #151 Henderson Alvarez (176)
    #151 Gavin Floyd (154)
    #153 Brooks Raley (206)
    #154 Dan Haren (101)
    #155 Samuel Deduno (236)
    #156 Chris Young (187)
    #157 Stephen Fife (244)
    #158 Dallas Keuchel (214)
    #159 Aaron Laffey (173)
    #160 Chris Seddon (215)
    #161 Josh Beckett (126)
    #162 Jonathan Sanchez (225)
    #163 Armando Galarraga (219)
    #164 Philip Humber (189)

     
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2012 - 10:10 AM ET #4

    Yankees look good on your sheets.
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    Yankees look good on your sheets.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2012 - 10:12 AM ET #5

    Yankees played a late game last night, had to travel right afterwards, and normally come out flat after a series with Boston. 
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    Yankees played a late game last night, had to travel right afterwards, and normally come out flat after a series with Boston. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2012 - 10:13 AM ET #6

    Thank you silly! 
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2012 - 10:14 AM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by Forecaster215:

    Yankees look good on your sheets.

    I'm waiting to see line-ups but yes, they're at the very top of my leans list.  White Sox struggle against righties and Garcia isn't as bad as he gets credit for.  Floyd is in the bottom 20 pitchers in recent performance and the Bronx Bombers rank #1 offensively against righties.  If the Yankees line-up looks good, I would set fair value on them between -140 and -150.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forecaster215:

    Yankees look good on your sheets.

    I'm waiting to see line-ups but yes, they're at the very top of my leans list.  White Sox struggle against righties and Garcia isn't as bad as he gets credit for.  Floyd is in the bottom 20 pitchers in recent performance and the Bronx Bombers rank #1 offensively against righties.  If the Yankees line-up looks good, I would set fair value on them between -140 and -150.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2012 - 10:14 AM ET #8

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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2012 - 10:16 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by Pasteur:

    Yankees played a late game last night, had to travel right afterwards, and normally come out flat after a series with Boston. 

    They had to travel from New York City to Chicago.  That's a 2 hour flight and one hour time zone shit.  They've sat in cabs longer trying to cross midtown.  Besides, it's a night game and the Yankees are a veteran squad.  The travel won't affect them one bit.  As for the Red Sox hangover, maybe, but I don't buy into this much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pasteur:

    Yankees played a late game last night, had to travel right afterwards, and normally come out flat after a series with Boston. 

    They had to travel from New York City to Chicago.  That's a 2 hour flight and one hour time zone shit.  They've sat in cabs longer trying to cross midtown.  Besides, it's a night game and the Yankees are a veteran squad.  The travel won't affect them one bit.  As for the Red Sox hangover, maybe, but I don't buy into this much.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2012 - 10:16 AM ET #10

    What about kc?
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    What about kc?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2012 - 10:17 AM ET #11

    si1ly i sent you a friend request i need to pm you with a quick question thanks

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forecaster215:

    What about kc?

    Tampa is definitely over valued after sweeping the Angels and I'm not too fond of Hellickson.  KCR has all the line value, just have to do some research into why the oddsmakers made them such a high dog today.  Lean KCR, but hesitantly. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forecaster215:

    What about kc?

    Tampa is definitely over valued after sweeping the Angels and I'm not too fond of Hellickson.  KCR has all the line value, just have to do some research into why the oddsmakers made them such a high dog today.  Lean KCR, but hesitantly. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blksheep:

    si1ly i sent you a friend request i need to pm you with a quick question thanks

     


    Accepted.

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    si1ly i sent you a friend request i need to pm you with a quick question thanks

     


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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2012 - 10:36 AM ET #14

    brewers? brewers under?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jmt908:

    brewers? brewers under?

    Lean Brewers.  Mark Rogers has been excellent lately.  No take on the total.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jmt908:

    brewers? brewers under?

    Lean Brewers.  Mark Rogers has been excellent lately.  No take on the total.
     
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    I was thinking NYY or Ari ML. Mil and Tex have the most value but what do you think of a 2 team parlay between these 2 instead of considering a STR play?
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    Quote Originally Posted by eyemtlaw:

    I was thinking NYY or Ari ML. Mil and Tex have the most value but what do you think of a 2 team parlay between these 2 instead of considering a STR play?

    I'm on the over in Arizona.  Take a closer look at Joe Saunders splits.  This is how he performs against righties:

    5.57 K/9
    2.11 K/BB
    1.42 HR/9
    .281 BA
    .299 BABIP
    4.81 FIP
    4.79 xFIP

    Those are terrible numbers.. and indicates that in a hitters friendly park like Arizona, he has an ERA-probability of almost 5 against any team that can field a team of competent right-handers.

    Well this was Miami's most recent line-up against a lefty (yesterday v. Pomeranz):

    1. Emilio Bonifacio (S) CF
    2. Justin Ruggiano (R) LF
    3. Jose Reyes (S) SS
    4. Carlos Lee (R) 1B
    5. Giancarlo Stanton (R) RF
    6. Donnie Murphy (R) 3B
    7. John Buck (R) C
    8. Donovan Solano (R) 2B
    9. Mark Buehrle (L) P ***

    ***Substitute Mark Buehrle and this is pretty much what you can expect from the Marlins this evening.  That's certainly a competent bunch of 8 guys that will be swinging right-handed - especially the 1-5 spots.  Zona's bullpen has been tough lately, but I'm expecting the Marlins to get 5 with this line-up against Saunders and the D-Backs staff.


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    Quote Originally Posted by eyemtlaw:

    I was thinking NYY or Ari ML. Mil and Tex have the most value but what do you think of a 2 team parlay between these 2 instead of considering a STR play?

    I'm on the over in Arizona.  Take a closer look at Joe Saunders splits.  This is how he performs against righties:

    5.57 K/9
    2.11 K/BB
    1.42 HR/9
    .281 BA
    .299 BABIP
    4.81 FIP
    4.79 xFIP

    Those are terrible numbers.. and indicates that in a hitters friendly park like Arizona, he has an ERA-probability of almost 5 against any team that can field a team of competent right-handers.

    Well this was Miami's most recent line-up against a lefty (yesterday v. Pomeranz):

    1. Emilio Bonifacio (S) CF
    2. Justin Ruggiano (R) LF
    3. Jose Reyes (S) SS
    4. Carlos Lee (R) 1B
    5. Giancarlo Stanton (R) RF
    6. Donnie Murphy (R) 3B
    7. John Buck (R) C
    8. Donovan Solano (R) 2B
    9. Mark Buehrle (L) P ***

    ***Substitute Mark Buehrle and this is pretty much what you can expect from the Marlins this evening.  That's certainly a competent bunch of 8 guys that will be swinging right-handed - especially the 1-5 spots.  Zona's bullpen has been tough lately, but I'm expecting the Marlins to get 5 with this line-up against Saunders and the D-Backs staff.


     
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2012 - 10:54 AM ET #18

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pasteur:

    Yankees played a late game last night, had to travel right afterwards, and normally come out flat after a series with Boston. 

    do you have any stats for the nyy opening game after bosox for the last five years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pasteur:

    Yankees played a late game last night, had to travel right afterwards, and normally come out flat after a series with Boston. 

    do you have any stats for the nyy opening game after bosox for the last five years?

     
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    What are your thoughts on he Dodgers?  Kershaw has owned the giants over the years, and the Dodgers have been swinging hot bats over the past few games.  Big series with only 1/2 game separating these too, you know the LA crowd will get up for this series.
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    What are your thoughts on he Dodgers?  Kershaw has owned the giants over the years, and the Dodgers have been swinging hot bats over the past few games.  Big series with only 1/2 game separating these too, you know the LA crowd will get up for this series.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZCats11:

    What are your thoughts on he Dodgers?  Kershaw has owned the giants over the years, and the Dodgers have been swinging hot bats over the past few games.  Big series with only 1/2 game separating these too, you know the LA crowd will get up for this series.

    Both pitchers are in the top 10 over the last 30 days.  There is basically nobody in the league pitching at a higher level than these two.  It's a big game with playoff implications for both teams.  I expect nothing short of an epic pitching duel.  The total opened at under 6.5 heavily juiced for a reason.  It's since fallen to 6, which is fair value in my book.  Still, I fully expect to see a 1-0, 2-0, 2-1 ballgame.  I would be very surprised to see either team get after these pitchers.  I'm on the under in this game at 6 (-110).
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZCats11:

    What are your thoughts on he Dodgers?  Kershaw has owned the giants over the years, and the Dodgers have been swinging hot bats over the past few games.  Big series with only 1/2 game separating these too, you know the LA crowd will get up for this series.

    Both pitchers are in the top 10 over the last 30 days.  There is basically nobody in the league pitching at a higher level than these two.  It's a big game with playoff implications for both teams.  I expect nothing short of an epic pitching duel.  The total opened at under 6.5 heavily juiced for a reason.  It's since fallen to 6, which is fair value in my book.  Still, I fully expect to see a 1-0, 2-0, 2-1 ballgame.  I would be very surprised to see either team get after these pitchers.  I'm on the under in this game at 6 (-110).
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qncyk1:

    do you have any stats for the nyy opening game after bosox for the last five years?


    That would be awesome information.  I would love it if somebody dug that up.  3 years even would be sufficient data - and probably more relevant too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qncyk1:

    do you have any stats for the nyy opening game after bosox for the last five years?


    That would be awesome information.  I would love it if somebody dug that up.  3 years even would be sufficient data - and probably more relevant too.
     
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    Si1ly I'm confused with your Zona post. Arizona is one of top teams against lefties. It's a hitters park. You say you expect Miami to get 5, but you lean under.aybr I read it wrong. I see the action is on under 9, but I kinda like the over. I also like zona team total over, and may do your trick to get value at -1.
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    Si1ly I'm confused with your Zona post. Arizona is one of top teams against lefties. It's a hitters park. You say you expect Miami to get 5, but you lean under.aybr I read it wrong. I see the action is on under 9, but I kinda like the over. I also like zona team total over, and may do your trick to get value at -1.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fullabs11:

    Si1ly I'm confused with your Zona post. Arizona is one of top teams against lefties. It's a hitters park. You say you expect Miami to get 5, but you lean under.aybr I read it wrong. I see the action is on under 9, but I kinda like the over. I also like zona team total over, and may do your trick to get value at -1.

    I expect Miami to get 5.  I expect Zona to get 5+.  I'm on the over in the game.  I don't know if the D-Backs can win by more than 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fullabs11:

    Si1ly I'm confused with your Zona post. Arizona is one of top teams against lefties. It's a hitters park. You say you expect Miami to get 5, but you lean under.aybr I read it wrong. I see the action is on under 9, but I kinda like the over. I also like zona team total over, and may do your trick to get value at -1.

    I expect Miami to get 5.  I expect Zona to get 5+.  I'm on the over in the game.  I don't know if the D-Backs can win by more than 1.

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    How about over 9 -115?
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    How about over 9 -115?
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