UFC 317

Maybe we have some people who want to share some knowledge or wisdom.

How can Topuria be such a huge favorite.

I love Topuria he seems smart.

He has never fought anyone to this pedigree. 

Oliveria has fought some cannon strikers and he has been shook and stunned.

Can someone tell me how they can justify ever laying 425 without pairing this with a parlay. 

the play would be to find the expected distance and outcome.

The longer the fight goes it has to favor Charles, no?

interesting fight not saying Ilia doesn't get the job done.

Many people are many moves ahead of Oliviera like Pimblett vs Ilia etc. makes no sense. 

Is he a better wrestler than volk?

My book doesn’t have it but Oliviera at over 29.5 significant strikes is pretty good.

i think his length will equate to a feeling out process. I could see things starting to pick up after the first or second round.

-250 to get to the second round is what I’m leaning right now…

@elmaniac8

 Meh....Ilia knocked out Max and Volk, thats impressive right there.  Even wins over Emmet and Mitchell are big.  He might not have the quantity of wins Oliveira has, but the quality is similar.  That being said, I do think the line is a tad high.  

@NoFancyHandle

 some good thoughts. thanks

@bense197969

 Let's be realistic. Volkswagen is a gatekeeper. Fighting Nerds are taking that belt.

Volkswagen was declining, max is obviously old as molasses for a fighter, but actually young. crazy

those are impressive but neither is in their prime anymore.

that's my debate 

Lets go charles cant pass on price 

@Loki808

 Can Charles win?

Yes. How can't he.

so yes, I think the price is right.

Charles last fight was close to Arman and he melted vs Islam. that's about it.

he handles the cannons well. usually when people start talking about next level shit. the hype is in effect. for all we really know.

Illia beat a washed up Volk, because It wasn't Volk looked good. It was Lopes was starstruck and still was in the fight. Volk name is all that has value with him.

Illia beat up Holloway pretty easy. I can't remember the last time Illia fought a well balanced athlete? 

this has upset makings. Just saying.

its all about if Charles wants that belt bad enough.mentally im speaking

Charles fought Chandler twice and got dropped both times. Given he won, Illa is a much better boxer with more power (if that translates). I think it’s not about if but about when does Illa catch Charles. The only question is how badly and is Charles able to recover from that? 

@RXistrash

 he also got dropped by gaethje and even porier 

does anyone hit harder than Justin 

@elmaniac8

 Volk is not a gatekeeper, lol.  You're on an island with that mindset.

Regardless, I think Ilia wins but there are certainly paths for Oliveira to win.  No bet for me, just gonna watch what should be a fantastic fight.  GL

@bense197969

 I agree I lik Volk, but he won't be champ long, obviously. 

its a weak division. 

Thanks. I don't really like Charles. But he's sneaky.

Thx for the input

Charlie Olive gonna get chin’d

Easy money

Giving 4-1 is never easy and never smart.

Easy Pick more like it.

Lost 20 units on Olivieria. Destroyed the main card with so many parlays.

Profited 55 units and lost huge in both main events. I'll take it.

Okay lol. To win by tko/ko was only -165/-170.  Wish i played the first round KO. There was only one outcome in this matchup. If they fought 100 times it would end the same way every single time.