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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2007 - 7:11 PM ET #51

    SPWR could get squeezed right at open, as they have a conference tomorrow with CEO the keynote speaker. 
     
    The conference has been the reason for the squeeze the last 2 days, so it may be a good time to short it for a trade if it gets squeezed hard tomorrow before noon.
     
    I'd love to see CFC get crushed to 10ish, but any type of bailout package will send shorts scurrying like little mice.
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    SPWR could get squeezed right at open, as they have a conference tomorrow with CEO the keynote speaker. 
     
    The conference has been the reason for the squeeze the last 2 days, so it may be a good time to short it for a trade if it gets squeezed hard tomorrow before noon.
     
    I'd love to see CFC get crushed to 10ish, but any type of bailout package will send shorts scurrying like little mice.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2007 - 7:37 PM ET #52

    claycourt,

    Thanks for the wishes on CRDC. I should really invest a large sum, not just trading funds and sit on it for 2 yrs..I wouldnt be shocked to see a 3-5 bagger on the stock. I believe what they have could make a ton of dough if they dont get bot out first.

    You believe that SPWR? They sell it off on earnings to start the day and bring it back like crazy..now stock at new highs. I am not sure that conference will move the stock that much, maybe but it has already run like 25 pts from the low in just a week.

    I think CFC COULD get nailed down to that level, as could IMB. I tend to lean towards wanting IMB versus CFC because of their banking arm..with CFC you mostly get mortgage and mortgage servicing, with IMB they are a bank AND a lender..so it adds a bit of safety..

    I have to admit I was scoping out some IMB options today, this price is making me curious to say the least. Problem is the options are so expensive going into April 08, its almost better to own stock and maybe sell covered calls on rallies...
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    claycourt,

    Thanks for the wishes on CRDC. I should really invest a large sum, not just trading funds and sit on it for 2 yrs..I wouldnt be shocked to see a 3-5 bagger on the stock. I believe what they have could make a ton of dough if they dont get bot out first.

    You believe that SPWR? They sell it off on earnings to start the day and bring it back like crazy..now stock at new highs. I am not sure that conference will move the stock that much, maybe but it has already run like 25 pts from the low in just a week.

    I think CFC COULD get nailed down to that level, as could IMB. I tend to lean towards wanting IMB versus CFC because of their banking arm..with CFC you mostly get mortgage and mortgage servicing, with IMB they are a bank AND a lender..so it adds a bit of safety..

    I have to admit I was scoping out some IMB options today, this price is making me curious to say the least. Problem is the options are so expensive going into April 08, its almost better to own stock and maybe sell covered calls on rallies...
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2007 - 8:46 PM ET #53

    WSC-
     
    CRDC really could get bought out, and if it does, then its upside will be the premium, and that's it.  That is one of the reasons I am in it for the long haul.  It's basically a lot of upside potential vs very little downside potential.
     
    I have no idea how you all who trade a lot can time this stuff and just jump and jump out.....that is beyond my ability.
     
    SPWR's been on a huge run, and yeah, I damn sure wouldn't be buying it at this level.  But the manipulators run ticker symbols like SPWR, and it's scary......which is why I think I've had enough of FSLR.  I have no problems with the 28% fee.....I just can't deal with the humongous swings.  GTLS is much more my style.
     
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    WSC-
     
    CRDC really could get bought out, and if it does, then its upside will be the premium, and that's it.  That is one of the reasons I am in it for the long haul.  It's basically a lot of upside potential vs very little downside potential.
     
    I have no idea how you all who trade a lot can time this stuff and just jump and jump out.....that is beyond my ability.
     
    SPWR's been on a huge run, and yeah, I damn sure wouldn't be buying it at this level.  But the manipulators run ticker symbols like SPWR, and it's scary......which is why I think I've had enough of FSLR.  I have no problems with the 28% fee.....I just can't deal with the humongous swings.  GTLS is much more my style.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2007 - 8:59 PM ET #54

    WSC-
     
    On FSLR and stops:
     
    You know much more about the manipulators than I do, but I do know that they bash out all stops eventually.  I've had it happen to me before, and I got taught a vicious and stern lesson about where, when and why not to do stops when you're sitting in the money.  Manipulators can and will take out all stops before running something back up.
     
    To me, at least, I'd rather just sell now, accept the 28% fee, and be done with the foolishness.
     
    Cheers
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    WSC-
     
    On FSLR and stops:
     
    You know much more about the manipulators than I do, but I do know that they bash out all stops eventually.  I've had it happen to me before, and I got taught a vicious and stern lesson about where, when and why not to do stops when you're sitting in the money.  Manipulators can and will take out all stops before running something back up.
     
    To me, at least, I'd rather just sell now, accept the 28% fee, and be done with the foolishness.
     
    Cheers
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2007 - 9:03 PM ET #55

    And roll the profits into GTLS and CRDC, for example, and be able to sleep at night.
     
    FSLR has literally caused me to lose sleep at night worrying about some a--wipe brokerage issuing a MAJOR downgrade.  And take it to the bank......THAT is coming.
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    And roll the profits into GTLS and CRDC, for example, and be able to sleep at night.
     
    FSLR has literally caused me to lose sleep at night worrying about some a--wipe brokerage issuing a MAJOR downgrade.  And take it to the bank......THAT is coming.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2007 - 9:30 PM ET #56

    Quote Originally Posted by claycourtlesson:

    And roll the profits into GTLS and CRDC, for example, and be able to sleep at night.
     
    FSLR has literally caused me to lose sleep at night worrying about some a--wipe brokerage issuing a MAJOR downgrade.  And take it to the bank......THAT is coming.
       i have talked a few times about  buy/sell ratings,,,they downgrade to drive the price down and gobble it up on the cheap,,,,they upgrade when they have a bunch in inventory and sell it at ahigher price,,,,seen it time and time again,,,,go the other way,,,,just like fading a tout  stocks are manipulated all the time,,,bunch of crooks
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    Quote Originally Posted by claycourtlesson:

    And roll the profits into GTLS and CRDC, for example, and be able to sleep at night.
     
    FSLR has literally caused me to lose sleep at night worrying about some a--wipe brokerage issuing a MAJOR downgrade.  And take it to the bank......THAT is coming.
       i have talked a few times about  buy/sell ratings,,,they downgrade to drive the price down and gobble it up on the cheap,,,,they upgrade when they have a bunch in inventory and sell it at ahigher price,,,,seen it time and time again,,,,go the other way,,,,just like fading a tout  stocks are manipulated all the time,,,bunch of crooks
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2007 - 11:28 PM ET #57

    claycourt,

    I hardly blame you..but you are nicely in the money and the stock is in a nice uptrend My comment about stops is to use a wide one and if you got hit be happy that you locked in gains and let it ride a little. You held from 110 or so down into the 80s on that big drop, I think you should consider letting at least some run..but you gotta make that call.

    CRDC kinda makes me nervous with earnings coming up..I sure hope they dont pull any garbage and say stupid things..I doubt it but you and I and others are rolling the dice of course. One interesting thing..in the notice of the shelf filing, they said a LARGE holder wanted to sell, well guess who the largest holder is? Guidant..

    Holders

    Guidant has been a holder since a year ago when they probably lent money and got stock for 5 per share. There is speculation that they probably wanted to buy the company but got rebuffed, and they want to sell..which is completely fine with me. It also might mean that someone else is negociating and wants in..I dunno. Oh and we wont get the short data for a few more days but I wouldnt be shocked if the short interest went up from last month.

    boiler-room, we have been in and out of the stock...too depressing to discuss..haha
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    claycourt,

    I hardly blame you..but you are nicely in the money and the stock is in a nice uptrend My comment about stops is to use a wide one and if you got hit be happy that you locked in gains and let it ride a little. You held from 110 or so down into the 80s on that big drop, I think you should consider letting at least some run..but you gotta make that call.

    CRDC kinda makes me nervous with earnings coming up..I sure hope they dont pull any garbage and say stupid things..I doubt it but you and I and others are rolling the dice of course. One interesting thing..in the notice of the shelf filing, they said a LARGE holder wanted to sell, well guess who the largest holder is? Guidant..

    Holders

    Guidant has been a holder since a year ago when they probably lent money and got stock for 5 per share. There is speculation that they probably wanted to buy the company but got rebuffed, and they want to sell..which is completely fine with me. It also might mean that someone else is negociating and wants in..I dunno. Oh and we wont get the short data for a few more days but I wouldnt be shocked if the short interest went up from last month.

    boiler-room, we have been in and out of the stock...too depressing to discuss..haha
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2007 - 9:42 AM ET #58

    I see SPWR shorts got terrorized and frightened at the open by the manipulators.
     
    If the manipulators really want money today, they could unleash hell on the shorts and drive this thing close to 128-130 by end of week.
     
    Most shorts won't be able to handle the pain of watching something go from 70 to 130 in about 3 weeks.
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    I see SPWR shorts got terrorized and frightened at the open by the manipulators.
     
    If the manipulators really want money today, they could unleash hell on the shorts and drive this thing close to 128-130 by end of week.
     
    Most shorts won't be able to handle the pain of watching something go from 70 to 130 in about 3 weeks.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2007 - 10:16 AM ET #59

    I may take a whack at YHOO options...Alibaba mania????


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    I may take a whack at YHOO options...Alibaba mania????


     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2007 - 11:01 AM ET #60

    SPWR isnt down much compared to some other names..

    I wonder if they bring the market back in the afternoon..

    This isnt buy day yet..somthing doesnt feel right, but that could change in a minute..haha

    Oh wow, CFC, IMB, BAC...ugly ugly ugly...
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    SPWR isnt down much compared to some other names..

    I wonder if they bring the market back in the afternoon..

    This isnt buy day yet..somthing doesnt feel right, but that could change in a minute..haha

    Oh wow, CFC, IMB, BAC...ugly ugly ugly...
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2007 - 11:15 AM ET #61

    CRDC; can anyone tell if there is a huge buy position at $12.50?  It bounced off that level quickly.
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    CRDC; can anyone tell if there is a huge buy position at $12.50?  It bounced off that level quickly.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2007 - 11:21 AM ET #62

    I don't know, Grid, level II can tell you some of that stuff.
     
    I'm not much of a trader, though, so I don't know.  My shares of CRDC are for the long haul.
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    I don't know, Grid, level II can tell you some of that stuff.
     
    I'm not much of a trader, though, so I don't know.  My shares of CRDC are for the long haul.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2007 - 11:22 AM ET #63

    I got a feeling the manipulators could run SPWR to 130 by end of week if they so choose, regardless of what the broad market does or doesn't do.
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    I got a feeling the manipulators could run SPWR to 130 by end of week if they so choose, regardless of what the broad market does or doesn't do.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2007 - 11:24 AM ET #64

    I'm just too cheap to spring for the service.  Maybe someday.
     
    What an ugly day overall.
     
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    I'm just too cheap to spring for the service.  Maybe someday.
     
    What an ugly day overall.
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2007 - 11:39 AM ET #65

    Speaking of "long-haul investing,"  if you have a long time horizon (like 10-20 years), you may want to think about "accumulating" shares of First Horizon (FHN) on subsequent dips the next 2-3 years, and then just sitting back and enjoying the ride.
     
    This company is a bank, so they are "somewhat" protected by the current debacle in the housing market.
     
    I am not doing it myself, cause 10-20 years is too long for me to wait (and I hope the Mayans are right about 2012), but for those of you in your early 30s or late 20s who are doing the wife and kids thing now, you ought to start putting some accumulated shares of FHN in your IRA (if you have that option to buy on your own).
     
    If the Mayans are wrong about 2012 (they probably are cause too many peeps are yapping about it), then you will remember me and thank me later if you start acquiring FHN right now in the mid 20s.
     
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    Speaking of "long-haul investing,"  if you have a long time horizon (like 10-20 years), you may want to think about "accumulating" shares of First Horizon (FHN) on subsequent dips the next 2-3 years, and then just sitting back and enjoying the ride.
     
    This company is a bank, so they are "somewhat" protected by the current debacle in the housing market.
     
    I am not doing it myself, cause 10-20 years is too long for me to wait (and I hope the Mayans are right about 2012), but for those of you in your early 30s or late 20s who are doing the wife and kids thing now, you ought to start putting some accumulated shares of FHN in your IRA (if you have that option to buy on your own).
     
    If the Mayans are wrong about 2012 (they probably are cause too many peeps are yapping about it), then you will remember me and thank me later if you start acquiring FHN right now in the mid 20s.
     
    Cheers
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2007 - 11:43 AM ET #66

    Grid,

    I saw that too..

    Someone had a 50k buy at 12.50 and she bounced right off it. Who knows if it is legit or not, could be a MM trying to move it up.

    I just placed a buy at 12.60 let see if I get more for the war chest!
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    Grid,

    I saw that too..

    Someone had a 50k buy at 12.50 and she bounced right off it. Who knows if it is legit or not, could be a MM trying to move it up.

    I just placed a buy at 12.60 let see if I get more for the war chest!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2007 - 11:44 AM ET #67

    What are the Mayans saying about 2012?
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    What are the Mayans saying about 2012?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2007 - 11:48 AM ET #68

    Equatorial shifts due to planetary alignments in solar system.
     
    Obviously, weather would change severely, especially if earth's orbital placement relative to the sun changed.
     
    Could be some bad stuff, man.
     
    But too many are yapping about it, so probably nothing will happen too drastically.
     
    This screwed up world will probably go on and on to continue to amuse the gods who are always laughing at us.
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    Equatorial shifts due to planetary alignments in solar system.
     
    Obviously, weather would change severely, especially if earth's orbital placement relative to the sun changed.
     
    Could be some bad stuff, man.
     
    But too many are yapping about it, so probably nothing will happen too drastically.
     
    This screwed up world will probably go on and on to continue to amuse the gods who are always laughing at us.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2007 - 11:50 AM ET #69

    Interesting...it wouldnt shock me since our crummy little earth is nothing but a pin prick in the galaxy...
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    Interesting...it wouldnt shock me since our crummy little earth is nothing but a pin prick in the galaxy...
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2007 - 11:51 AM ET #70

    Look at DRYS and FSLR creep up while the rest of the market stays down....


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    Look at DRYS and FSLR creep up while the rest of the market stays down....


     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2007 - 11:52 AM ET #71

    CFC making a reversal of sorts, too.
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    CFC making a reversal of sorts, too.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2007 - 12:12 PM ET #72

    Wallstreet, QLGC reported some nice earnings yesterday and now up a strong 10% today on an otherwise tough day for the market.
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    Wallstreet, QLGC reported some nice earnings yesterday and now up a strong 10% today on an otherwise tough day for the market.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2007 - 12:13 PM ET #73


     Here we go again..a steady drumbeat of bad news causiing people to dump shares. Not that I mind, and not that they are not correct to do so. The thing that remains bothering me is that still no one knows the true extent of the carnage, and the unknown is perhaps worse than the known.
      I leave home and am up on an MSFT options play.Come back, and am down. WTF happened to mSFT, don't see it in the stock itself...

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     Here we go again..a steady drumbeat of bad news causiing people to dump shares. Not that I mind, and not that they are not correct to do so. The thing that remains bothering me is that still no one knows the true extent of the carnage, and the unknown is perhaps worse than the known.
      I leave home and am up on an MSFT options play.Come back, and am down. WTF happened to mSFT, don't see it in the stock itself...

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2007 - 12:25 PM ET #74

    Depeche,

    QLGC did have good numbers, but at the price we were talking about they had some leeway to even miss.

    Selling at 20 times earnings, that is a total joke. I think you are good to go here..it wont run to 50 or anything, but this SHOULD put in a floor on the stock.  
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    Depeche,

    QLGC did have good numbers, but at the price we were talking about they had some leeway to even miss.

    Selling at 20 times earnings, that is a total joke. I think you are good to go here..it wont run to 50 or anything, but this SHOULD put in a floor on the stock.  
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2007 - 1:41 PM ET #75

      Anyone else having issues with E-Trade right now?
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      Anyone else having issues with E-Trade right now?
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