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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2007 - 7:33 PM ET #101

    Gunners,

    I get where you are coming from with the comment, but I also have no problem personally with boiler-room.

    Some of the best resources come from the oddest places. If someone can pitch in and make us some cash I am fine with the lack of commas or sentence structure.

    I guess I am saying that everyone is welcome, barring attacking or assholes, I hope everyone welcomes everyone.


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    Gunners,

    I get where you are coming from with the comment, but I also have no problem personally with boiler-room.

    Some of the best resources come from the oddest places. If someone can pitch in and make us some cash I am fine with the lack of commas or sentence structure.

    I guess I am saying that everyone is welcome, barring attacking or assholes, I hope everyone welcomes everyone.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2007 - 7:39 PM ET #102

    bottom line ,i think fast ,talk fast and this is how it comes out,,just thoughts on a page.....especially during the day when im at work and am doing 100 things at once,,,just my hectic nature
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    bottom line ,i think fast ,talk fast and this is how it comes out,,just thoughts on a page.....especially during the day when im at work and am doing 100 things at once,,,just my hectic nature
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2007 - 10:41 PM ET #103


     I like it boiler room, keep em coming ...

     Anyone else get the proxy material etc from Cardica today? I have leafed through it but not read carefully...if anyone did get it, let me know what you think if you feel like it...






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     I like it boiler room, keep em coming ...

     Anyone else get the proxy material etc from Cardica today? I have leafed through it but not read carefully...if anyone did get it, let me know what you think if you feel like it...






     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2007 - 10:44 PM ET #104


     PS

     Maybe boiler room is a descendant of Jack Kerouac or some Beat writer   He may be producing a scroll, which is on display now soemwhere

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     PS

     Maybe boiler room is a descendant of Jack Kerouac or some Beat writer   He may be producing a scroll, which is on display now soemwhere

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2007 - 11:33 PM ET #105

    I got the info in my email saying they had a meeting planned, but I didnt read further since after the meeting usually there is an Edgar filing and I can read up that way..

    Lazy I know..  
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    I got the info in my email saying they had a meeting planned, but I didnt read further since after the meeting usually there is an Edgar filing and I can read up that way..

    Lazy I know..  
     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2007 - 12:52 AM ET #106

    Vermeer-
     
    Pretty standard......talks about c-port vs pas-port a little.  Not really much else on which to report.
     
    Talks about their deal with Cook Medical.
     
    You'll get it any day, I assume.
     
    Cheers
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    Vermeer-
     
    Pretty standard......talks about c-port vs pas-port a little.  Not really much else on which to report.
     
    Talks about their deal with Cook Medical.
     
    You'll get it any day, I assume.
     
    Cheers
     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2007 - 12:56 AM ET #107

    Bottom line on CRDC is this, though:
     
    Potential upside outweighs potential downside.
     
    Also, it is not really an easy ticker symbol to trade back and forth cause the moves up are drastic and severe right now.
     
    I say buy it for the long haul, put it away, assess it later (unless it gets bought out-----then I'll most likely sell it and hope the premium is a nice gain).
     
    Mid 12s now.  I am hoping for 20ish by end of 2008 (on its own or from the buy out premium).
     
    Cheers
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    Bottom line on CRDC is this, though:
     
    Potential upside outweighs potential downside.
     
    Also, it is not really an easy ticker symbol to trade back and forth cause the moves up are drastic and severe right now.
     
    I say buy it for the long haul, put it away, assess it later (unless it gets bought out-----then I'll most likely sell it and hope the premium is a nice gain).
     
    Mid 12s now.  I am hoping for 20ish by end of 2008 (on its own or from the buy out premium).
     
    Cheers
     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2007 - 12:59 AM ET #108

    Quote Originally Posted by Vermeer:


     PS

     Maybe boiler room is a descendant of Jack Kerouac or some Beat writer   He may be producing a scroll, which is on display now soemwhere

       not far off my friend,fast speedy writing,,lots of booze,,i may be a legend and not even know it,,,,,,haha,,,fuck all that ,had the over in the sox game ,,ring the cash register my friend 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vermeer:


     PS

     Maybe boiler room is a descendant of Jack Kerouac or some Beat writer   He may be producing a scroll, which is on display now soemwhere

       not far off my friend,fast speedy writing,,lots of booze,,i may be a legend and not even know it,,,,,,haha,,,fuck all that ,had the over in the sox game ,,ring the cash register my friend 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2007 - 8:21 AM ET #109

    I'm not taking a shot at you or anything.  you seem like a nice guy.  good luck to you, i'll probably still read a couple of your posts, but it might make my eyes pop out of my head
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    I'm not taking a shot at you or anything.  you seem like a nice guy.  good luck to you, i'll probably still read a couple of your posts, but it might make my eyes pop out of my head
     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2007 - 9:59 AM ET #110

      Alright guys...Boiler I hope you don't work in one of said rooms...keep pounding the keyboard and the booze however and let fly...

      Here is a little thing which causes some small worry...and more bets on alternative energy sources perhaps (oil sands have been good to canada and to me)...

    A few days ago, Boone Pickens declared..

    "The world hit peak oil last year [2006]"

    And about the time ... the German-based Energy Watch Group released a report that also said oil peaked in 2006..... oil production will now fall by 7% a year.

    That means, that next year... oil production will decline by 5.9 million barrels per day.


    "They talked like $50 was going to be difficult, and $60 and $70. We went through those like a knife through hot butter.'' - Boone Pickens, October 19, 2007

     



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      Alright guys...Boiler I hope you don't work in one of said rooms...keep pounding the keyboard and the booze however and let fly...

      Here is a little thing which causes some small worry...and more bets on alternative energy sources perhaps (oil sands have been good to canada and to me)...

    A few days ago, Boone Pickens declared..

    "The world hit peak oil last year [2006]"

    And about the time ... the German-based Energy Watch Group released a report that also said oil peaked in 2006..... oil production will now fall by 7% a year.

    That means, that next year... oil production will decline by 5.9 million barrels per day.


    "They talked like $50 was going to be difficult, and $60 and $70. We went through those like a knife through hot butter.'' - Boone Pickens, October 19, 2007

     



     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2007 - 10:10 AM ET #111

    Every time CRDC goes down I nibble a bit more...am in for the long run too CC
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    Every time CRDC goes down I nibble a bit more...am in for the long run too CC
     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2007 - 10:18 AM ET #112

    Quote Originally Posted by Vermeer:

    Every time CRDC goes down I nibble a bit more...am in for the long run too CC

    I was just getting ready to post something very similiar.  The volume is sooooo low, it's creating some pretty big swings in the share price.  If you like the stock, throw a series of bids out there, no matter how ridiculous, you just never know.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vermeer:

    Every time CRDC goes down I nibble a bit more...am in for the long run too CC

    I was just getting ready to post something very similiar.  The volume is sooooo low, it's creating some pretty big swings in the share price.  If you like the stock, throw a series of bids out there, no matter how ridiculous, you just never know.

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2007 - 10:46 AM ET #113

    FBI raiding WCG offices

    the thing will be wild today

    115 stock supposed to open down 50%
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    FBI raiding WCG offices

    the thing will be wild today

    115 stock supposed to open down 50%
     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2007 - 10:53 AM ET #114

    Quote Originally Posted by KOAJ:

    FBI raiding WCG offices

    the thing will be wild today

    115 stock supposed to open down 50%


    Stock up and going now..

    Someone dropped it to 2.50?????

    That aint a legit trade.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KOAJ:

    FBI raiding WCG offices

    the thing will be wild today

    115 stock supposed to open down 50%


    Stock up and going now..

    Someone dropped it to 2.50?????

    That aint a legit trade.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2007 - 10:58 AM ET #115

    ps..

    There are options on the stock at lower strikes for 2009

    Anyone with the Nov 90 puts can retire right now..trading at 43 bucks from like 50 cents.


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    ps..

    There are options on the stock at lower strikes for 2009

    Anyone with the Nov 90 puts can retire right now..trading at 43 bucks from like 50 cents.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2007 - 11:00 AM ET #116

    its not...my buddy works compliance and had to break a bunch of trades
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    its not...my buddy works compliance and had to break a bunch of trades
     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2007 - 11:02 AM ET #117

    wall - read Dec 70 went from .10 to 21.60 this morning


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    wall - read Dec 70 went from .10 to 21.60 this morning


     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2007 - 11:08 AM ET #118

    The 70 calls?

    Scottrade shows them between 3 and 5 bucks..stupid people buying those are giving money to the market maker..

    Somthing tells me this stock goes into the 30s and 20s maybe worse...
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    The 70 calls?

    Scottrade shows them between 3 and 5 bucks..stupid people buying those are giving money to the market maker..

    Somthing tells me this stock goes into the 30s and 20s maybe worse...
     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2007 - 11:42 AM ET #119

    Solars keep running..

    STP and FSLR.

    I watched that peak oil flick on Sundance last night and the show makes convincing arguments.

    To me the only way we get oil prices down is by HUGE and I mean larger than Carter incentives for individuals and corporations to develop and purchase alt-energy products. Of course there is no way in hell it happens until Bush is out, and the best shot is if a DEM gets into office. The last time the US really invested and incentived alt energy, it drove oil right back down. Since Bush is pretty much in the pockets of the Saudis and oil companies we will have to wait, and waiting a year means we see oil over 100..

    So keep buying solar companies.
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    Solars keep running..

    STP and FSLR.

    I watched that peak oil flick on Sundance last night and the show makes convincing arguments.

    To me the only way we get oil prices down is by HUGE and I mean larger than Carter incentives for individuals and corporations to develop and purchase alt-energy products. Of course there is no way in hell it happens until Bush is out, and the best shot is if a DEM gets into office. The last time the US really invested and incentived alt energy, it drove oil right back down. Since Bush is pretty much in the pockets of the Saudis and oil companies we will have to wait, and waiting a year means we see oil over 100..

    So keep buying solar companies.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2007 - 12:01 PM ET #120

    CFC getting killed again today and many financials head faked higher and now are lower.

    Still gotta avoid the group, no need to dip toes (even though I did with IMB)
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    CFC getting killed again today and many financials head faked higher and now are lower.

    Still gotta avoid the group, no need to dip toes (even though I did with IMB)
     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2007 - 12:13 PM ET #121


     WSC we have been around this topic before, and I would strongly suggest that the significant change since the Carter years (and they, by the way, were terrible years, recall 14% prime rates??) is the emergence of China and India on the demand side of the equation.Completely different playing field than the 80s.The Chinese would gladly buy all Saudi reserves if they could.

     That these countries come into prominence precisely at a time when supplies are getting harder to find/extricate truly exacerbates the problems already created by our stupid oil policies throughout the past 50 years.

     Secondly, what specific  incentives are you referring to that ""caused"  oil prices to decline? I do not recall any.  US legislation  does not control oil prices. I wish it did, or could.

     

     
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     WSC we have been around this topic before, and I would strongly suggest that the significant change since the Carter years (and they, by the way, were terrible years, recall 14% prime rates??) is the emergence of China and India on the demand side of the equation.Completely different playing field than the 80s.The Chinese would gladly buy all Saudi reserves if they could.

     That these countries come into prominence precisely at a time when supplies are getting harder to find/extricate truly exacerbates the problems already created by our stupid oil policies throughout the past 50 years.

     Secondly, what specific  incentives are you referring to that ""caused"  oil prices to decline? I do not recall any.  US legislation  does not control oil prices. I wish it did, or could.

     

     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2007 - 12:19 PM ET #122

     PS  Oil prices will climb every time the Fed steps in and pumps more dollars into the world...as they are getting ready to do...

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     PS  Oil prices will climb every time the Fed steps in and pumps more dollars into the world...as they are getting ready to do...

     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2007 - 12:26 PM ET #123

    Vermeer,

    We need to MAKE huge incentives because you are right, we have none and China is chomping at the bit to get as much oil as possible.

    That show on Sundance (or IFC?) was great..some insight about the oil dependance problem and how we might solve it.

    After looking at the alternatives I see NONE outside solar, and wind..but wind isnt practical.

    Nuclear is too costly and prohibitive and people dont like the reactor in the backyard (although when I lived in Philly I could see one looking out my front door, the reactor in Royersford)

    Biofuel is a joke..too expensive

    Sugar-fuel is too expensive..

    Solar is IT..thats all I can see. The reason I say solar is because there are ways to cut cost and increase productivity by technology. I think nano-solar will eventually end up solving the problem, making more effective and space effective solutions..right now it is too expensive otherwise.

    If I recall, back in the Carter years (I was a kiddo back then) there were some pretty heavy tax incentives, plus the tax code was different and people could form partnerships and investment groups and that was how many did this.

    To me if you want to stop oil dependance then create a reason to do so...if you gave a monster tax break to people who put solar panels on home/business or monster incentives for ANY vehicle which had over 35 MPG, but more for the alt energy cars, then demand would increase, costs come down and innovation goes up.

    Bush wants none of this..if Clinton were president (well oil wouldnt be at 80 if he was because Iraq would never have happened) these incentives would occur.

    If we want to break dependance then we either have to drill our own  in those reserve lands/Alaska or give corporations and individuals the reason to take the risk and innovate.
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    Vermeer,

    We need to MAKE huge incentives because you are right, we have none and China is chomping at the bit to get as much oil as possible.

    That show on Sundance (or IFC?) was great..some insight about the oil dependance problem and how we might solve it.

    After looking at the alternatives I see NONE outside solar, and wind..but wind isnt practical.

    Nuclear is too costly and prohibitive and people dont like the reactor in the backyard (although when I lived in Philly I could see one looking out my front door, the reactor in Royersford)

    Biofuel is a joke..too expensive

    Sugar-fuel is too expensive..

    Solar is IT..thats all I can see. The reason I say solar is because there are ways to cut cost and increase productivity by technology. I think nano-solar will eventually end up solving the problem, making more effective and space effective solutions..right now it is too expensive otherwise.

    If I recall, back in the Carter years (I was a kiddo back then) there were some pretty heavy tax incentives, plus the tax code was different and people could form partnerships and investment groups and that was how many did this.

    To me if you want to stop oil dependance then create a reason to do so...if you gave a monster tax break to people who put solar panels on home/business or monster incentives for ANY vehicle which had over 35 MPG, but more for the alt energy cars, then demand would increase, costs come down and innovation goes up.

    Bush wants none of this..if Clinton were president (well oil wouldnt be at 80 if he was because Iraq would never have happened) these incentives would occur.

    If we want to break dependance then we either have to drill our own  in those reserve lands/Alaska or give corporations and individuals the reason to take the risk and innovate.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2007 - 12:27 PM ET #124

    re: financials today...specifically right at noon
    Mbia conference call resulted in a bloomberg headline that they were suspending their stock buyback program and they'd rather hold the 
    capital.

    CFC reports tomorrow morning...rumors of div suspension

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    re: financials today...specifically right at noon
    Mbia conference call resulted in a bloomberg headline that they were suspending their stock buyback program and they'd rather hold the 
    capital.

    CFC reports tomorrow morning...rumors of div suspension

     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2007 - 12:29 PM ET #125

    NOEC up 17% today..wow on light volume.

    yeah Vermeer..every time we knock the dollar the REAL cost of oil keeps going up and up and up.

    A weak dollar means we pay MORE in real cost for anything imported.

    Stupid Fed..it isnt going to stop the recession..just prolong it.
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    NOEC up 17% today..wow on light volume.

    yeah Vermeer..every time we knock the dollar the REAL cost of oil keeps going up and up and up.

    A weak dollar means we pay MORE in real cost for anything imported.

    Stupid Fed..it isnt going to stop the recession..just prolong it.
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