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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2007 - 1:39 PM ET #26

    Sorry guys, but quick question.  INTC did a quick dip to $22.55.  Can someone explain; something to do with level 2, did they call out the stops?
     
     
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    Sorry guys, but quick question.  INTC did a quick dip to $22.55.  Can someone explain; something to do with level 2, did they call out the stops?
     
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2007 - 1:47 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    My problem with INTC is that they are in the middle of a great product cycle, one which has really helped the stock, but what is NEXT? Duo Core was their new product and it spurred earnings growth because it demanded higher pricing and margins. Look at an income statement, the gains werent made on the REVENUE side, rather that margins were better, compared to previous years.

    I think INTC is a mature company who will follow the market..not saying it is a bad thing, but to me the right time to pick up a mature company is when the market is taking a BEATING and they are taking everything down..it is one you keep on a watch list and pick up when they are giving it away price wise. I wouldnt own INTC as a growth vehicle or pay up for the price.

    You wont take a bath on the stock, but I guess my sights are set on more growth and speculation at this stage of the game.
        great point,the best investors will all agree there is no better time to buy than when u have a good company getting taken down for no other reason than the market getting it's ass kicked,all ur doing is getting a good company on sale,back up the truck
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    My problem with INTC is that they are in the middle of a great product cycle, one which has really helped the stock, but what is NEXT? Duo Core was their new product and it spurred earnings growth because it demanded higher pricing and margins. Look at an income statement, the gains werent made on the REVENUE side, rather that margins were better, compared to previous years.

    I think INTC is a mature company who will follow the market..not saying it is a bad thing, but to me the right time to pick up a mature company is when the market is taking a BEATING and they are taking everything down..it is one you keep on a watch list and pick up when they are giving it away price wise. I wouldnt own INTC as a growth vehicle or pay up for the price.

    You wont take a bath on the stock, but I guess my sights are set on more growth and speculation at this stage of the game.
        great point,the best investors will all agree there is no better time to buy than when u have a good company getting taken down for no other reason than the market getting it's ass kicked,all ur doing is getting a good company on sale,back up the truck
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2007 - 1:50 PM ET #28

     uh oh,same post twice,hope i don't get sent to the penalty box
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     uh oh,same post twice,hope i don't get sent to the penalty box
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2007 - 1:57 PM ET #29

    yeah you are headed to the box for a duplicate post...lol

    Grid, that was a bad print..stock never traded there.

    These DRYS call pricing are a JOKE..stock is 7 pts out of the money (125s) and the MMs are trying to get 2.70 on the offer for 3 days of time.

    Hilarious..they should be trading at less than a buck.
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    yeah you are headed to the box for a duplicate post...lol

    Grid, that was a bad print..stock never traded there.

    These DRYS call pricing are a JOKE..stock is 7 pts out of the money (125s) and the MMs are trying to get 2.70 on the offer for 3 days of time.

    Hilarious..they should be trading at less than a buck.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2007 - 2:00 PM ET #30

    Wow, they just spiked FSLR pretty strongly.  
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    Wow, they just spiked FSLR pretty strongly.  
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2007 - 2:30 PM ET #31

    Heads up..

    GOOG earnings on thursday, might be worth going out 10-20 pts in both directions on some October calls/puts.
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    Heads up..

    GOOG earnings on thursday, might be worth going out 10-20 pts in both directions on some October calls/puts.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2007 - 2:34 PM ET #32

    Yeah, FSLR is a short seller's worst nightmare right now.
     
    The manipulators could easily run this 160-180 over the next few months, regarless of what the broad market does or doesn't do.
     
    I damn sure wouldn't want to be short this freight train right now, cause holding a short against this would be sheer fucking terror on a daily basis.
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    Yeah, FSLR is a short seller's worst nightmare right now.
     
    The manipulators could easily run this 160-180 over the next few months, regarless of what the broad market does or doesn't do.
     
    I damn sure wouldn't want to be short this freight train right now, cause holding a short against this would be sheer fucking terror on a daily basis.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2007 - 2:36 PM ET #33

    claycourt,

    I am noticing a slowing down of beta though, meaning it isnt as volitile as in the past..might be good for option pricing and getting into the stock..it is good for a stock to slow down and pause from time to time.


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    claycourt,

    I am noticing a slowing down of beta though, meaning it isnt as volitile as in the past..might be good for option pricing and getting into the stock..it is good for a stock to slow down and pause from time to time.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2007 - 2:46 PM ET #34

    WSC-
     
    Yeah, I'm not saying 160-180 in a week's time, but hell yes to that by Dec 31.
     
    It is good to pause, but this baby could run at anytime.  One announcement of any type of contract or new business will be the cue for the manipulators to scare some more bajeezuz out of the shorts who don't have the balls, ammo, or psychological fortitude to handle the squeezes.
     
    I couldn't handle the pain....no way.  If I were short, damn right I'd run for cover if the manipulators started coming at me.....it's scary as hell to go to bed at night and wake up to a 7 point gap up.....makes you want to dig a hole and die.  Been there and done that, and that's what's going on now.
     
    As we all know, better to be early to the party than late, and then talk about what should've been done.
     
    For traders who want money over the next 2-3 months, get long FSLR and do it now.  This one's going higher, broad market, Fed, earnings, whatever.......the manipulators want it higher, and they get what they want cause they work in collusion with obscene amounts of money, and they still got plenty of weak handed shorts to frighten.
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    WSC-
     
    Yeah, I'm not saying 160-180 in a week's time, but hell yes to that by Dec 31.
     
    It is good to pause, but this baby could run at anytime.  One announcement of any type of contract or new business will be the cue for the manipulators to scare some more bajeezuz out of the shorts who don't have the balls, ammo, or psychological fortitude to handle the squeezes.
     
    I couldn't handle the pain....no way.  If I were short, damn right I'd run for cover if the manipulators started coming at me.....it's scary as hell to go to bed at night and wake up to a 7 point gap up.....makes you want to dig a hole and die.  Been there and done that, and that's what's going on now.
     
    As we all know, better to be early to the party than late, and then talk about what should've been done.
     
    For traders who want money over the next 2-3 months, get long FSLR and do it now.  This one's going higher, broad market, Fed, earnings, whatever.......the manipulators want it higher, and they get what they want cause they work in collusion with obscene amounts of money, and they still got plenty of weak handed shorts to frighten.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2007 - 3:19 PM ET #35

    Throwing my line in the water..

    Bot 20 contracts of the Oct 120s on DRYS at 4.60

    50 cent leash on the downside...

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    Throwing my line in the water..

    Bot 20 contracts of the Oct 120s on DRYS at 4.60

    50 cent leash on the downside...

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2007 - 3:28 PM ET #36

    I think the biggest lynchpin keepin the broad market right here from totally tanking and giving back all the rate cut hoopla the last 5 weeks is the expiration.
     
    Had this goddamn reversal that happened last Thursday happend a few weeks before expiration, then this market would be in free fall.
     
    Had to think that the big money players knew this before deciding to sell out last Thursday.
     
    Those people have insane amounts of money cause they're sharp as hell, cover their asses with correct hedging, love money, love more money even more than they love money, are relentless in its pursuit, and they never, ever, ever take a day off and sleep.
     
     people who can just move markets when they please
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    I think the biggest lynchpin keepin the broad market right here from totally tanking and giving back all the rate cut hoopla the last 5 weeks is the expiration.
     
    Had this goddamn reversal that happened last Thursday happend a few weeks before expiration, then this market would be in free fall.
     
    Had to think that the big money players knew this before deciding to sell out last Thursday.
     
    Those people have insane amounts of money cause they're sharp as hell, cover their asses with correct hedging, love money, love more money even more than they love money, are relentless in its pursuit, and they never, ever, ever take a day off and sleep.
     
     people who can just move markets when they please
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2007 - 3:29 PM ET #37

    Yeah we little fish only ride the waves..that is about it. The big boys with billions are those moving the markets.

    Also, those trading options and futures move the markets in ways we dont know..     
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    Yeah we little fish only ride the waves..that is about it. The big boys with billions are those moving the markets.

    Also, those trading options and futures move the markets in ways we dont know..     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2007 - 3:30 PM ET #38

    Let's face it....
     
    On today's late, great planet earth, money=power.  No one gives a rat's ass about much else.
     
    I don't like it, but that's the way it is.  
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    Let's face it....
     
    On today's late, great planet earth, money=power.  No one gives a rat's ass about much else.
     
    I don't like it, but that's the way it is.  
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2007 - 3:35 PM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by claycourtlesson:

    Let's face it....
     
    On today's late, great planet earth, money=power.  No one gives a rat's ass about much else.
     
    I don't like it, but that's the way it is.  

    Nowadays we all know that cash rules everything around us.  cream, get the money, dolla dolla bill y'all.  that's why you need to step to the WU

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by claycourtlesson:

    Let's face it....
     
    On today's late, great planet earth, money=power.  No one gives a rat's ass about much else.
     
    I don't like it, but that's the way it is.  

    Nowadays we all know that cash rules everything around us.  cream, get the money, dolla dolla bill y'all.  that's why you need to step to the WU

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2007 - 3:50 PM ET #40

    Bailed at 4.30 on those calls.

    Pissed because a gain turned into a loss...  




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    Bailed at 4.30 on those calls.

    Pissed because a gain turned into a loss...  




     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2007 - 3:56 PM ET #41

    Hahahahahahaha, Gunners!!!!
     
    I love it!
     
    Cheers
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    Hahahahahahaha, Gunners!!!!
     
    I love it!
     
    Cheers
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2007 - 4:16 PM ET #42

    INTC up in after hours..so far anyway.

    They better not run DRYS tomorrow..they will I bet.




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    INTC up in after hours..so far anyway.

    They better not run DRYS tomorrow..they will I bet.




     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2007 - 4:21 PM ET #43

    Let's see what tomorrow brings.  Haven't read the statement completely, but it appears they are guiding up next quarter.
     
     
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    Let's see what tomorrow brings.  Haven't read the statement completely, but it appears they are guiding up next quarter.
     
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2007 - 4:37 PM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by claycourtlesson:

    Hahahahahahaha, Gunners!!!!
     
    I love it!
     
    Cheers

     

    Smith Barney?!  bunch o' bitches! 

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    Quote Originally Posted by claycourtlesson:

    Hahahahahahaha, Gunners!!!!
     
    I love it!
     
    Cheers

     

    Smith Barney?!  bunch o' bitches! 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2007 - 4:38 PM ET #45

    YHOO running and so is GOOG..

    Tech gets a bounce tomorrow for sure.  
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    YHOO running and so is GOOG..

    Tech gets a bounce tomorrow for sure.  
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2007 - 5:07 PM ET #46

    WSC,
     
    Would appreciate any advice here on INTC.  Up a few hundred bucks for the day.  You think she'll have some legs tommorrow or should I take the day trader profits?
     
     
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    WSC,
     
    Would appreciate any advice here on INTC.  Up a few hundred bucks for the day.  You think she'll have some legs tommorrow or should I take the day trader profits?
     
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2007 - 5:18 PM ET #47

    I would hold..

    Market looks good into tomorrow, unless you have thousands of shares I would be willing to risk a few hundy on the chance the market comes down a little..
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    I would hold..

    Market looks good into tomorrow, unless you have thousands of shares I would be willing to risk a few hundy on the chance the market comes down a little..
     
    Gridophiles
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2007 - 5:19 PM ET #48

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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2007 - 5:54 PM ET #49

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunners:

    Nowadays we all know that cash rules everything around us.  cream, get the money, dolla dolla bill y'all.  that's why you need to step to the WU

     

        nice wu tang clan reference
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunners:

    Nowadays we all know that cash rules everything around us.  cream, get the money, dolla dolla bill y'all.  that's why you need to step to the WU

     

        nice wu tang clan reference
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2007 - 7:54 PM ET #50

    INTC up $1.29 after hours
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    INTC up $1.29 after hours
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