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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2007 - 1:34 PM ET #76

    You might consider rolling those Comcast options to the next period, or even further..take what you have and go up in strike and out in time.

    Since the premiums on those should be more reasonable and you think the play is right, I would suggest thinking about it..
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    You might consider rolling those Comcast options to the next period, or even further..take what you have and go up in strike and out in time.

    Since the premiums on those should be more reasonable and you think the play is right, I would suggest thinking about it..
     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2007 - 1:39 PM ET #77

    They are April 20 calls.Not sure about the play is right, although I think the death of cable companies is premature and overblown lately...I dunno, will definitely be thinking about them over the weekend.

     SKF is at least holding or going up.

    Merrill and C are getting rocked.

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    They are April 20 calls.Not sure about the play is right, although I think the death of cable companies is premature and overblown lately...I dunno, will definitely be thinking about them over the weekend.

     SKF is at least holding or going up.

    Merrill and C are getting rocked.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2007 - 1:52 PM ET #78

    April 20s arent bad..I was thinking you were in near term options.

    Were those some of Dykstra's plays?
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    April 20s arent bad..I was thinking you were in near term options.

    Were those some of Dykstra's plays?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2007 - 2:33 PM ET #79

     Think he has some Comcast options but not those particular calls...they may be his exact ones...they were along the same reasoning whatever the case
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     Think he has some Comcast options but not those particular calls...they may be his exact ones...they were along the same reasoning whatever the case
     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2007 - 2:38 PM ET #80


     I will add, have read nothing but bad opinions since buying them.One guy yesterday said thet cable companies were re arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic...

    and just now on Google Finance, I see this

    Groups Seek Stop to Comcast Net Meddling

    Sheesh. Sometimes the news cycle makes you feel like a real stooge, but I have learned to chill out most of the times. Never good to get wrapped up completely in the talking heads or scribblers.

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     I will add, have read nothing but bad opinions since buying them.One guy yesterday said thet cable companies were re arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic...

    and just now on Google Finance, I see this

    Groups Seek Stop to Comcast Net Meddling

    Sheesh. Sometimes the news cycle makes you feel like a real stooge, but I have learned to chill out most of the times. Never good to get wrapped up completely in the talking heads or scribblers.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2007 - 2:40 PM ET #81

    Alright, so I've been on Cypress Semiconductor (CY) since it was @ $23... it's now at $35 and change. Should I ride the steam still or get rid of it soon? I don't see any reason for it to slow down in the next few quarters. My target is about $45-50 before it tapers off.

    I did the same w/ MetroPCS (PCS) took it from about $20 to $40 and sold it off on time... hopefully CY treats me the same. Thanks for the input guys!

    Peace,
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    Alright, so I've been on Cypress Semiconductor (CY) since it was @ $23... it's now at $35 and change. Should I ride the steam still or get rid of it soon? I don't see any reason for it to slow down in the next few quarters. My target is about $45-50 before it tapers off.

    I did the same w/ MetroPCS (PCS) took it from about $20 to $40 and sold it off on time... hopefully CY treats me the same. Thanks for the input guys!

    Peace,
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2007 - 2:42 PM ET #82



     By the way, for anyone interested, there is a good article on the internal combustion engine and cars of the future in this week's New Yorker.It is a book review article on p. 87...

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     By the way, for anyone interested, there is a good article on the internal combustion engine and cars of the future in this week's New Yorker.It is a book review article on p. 87...

     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2007 - 2:53 PM ET #83


     I do not see why you do not just lock in a trailing stop loss and let it run as far as you think it might Stifler.

     By the way, and you may know this, the average car sold in the US today gets 20 mpg, less than Ford's Model T.

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     I do not see why you do not just lock in a trailing stop loss and let it run as far as you think it might Stifler.

     By the way, and you may know this, the average car sold in the US today gets 20 mpg, less than Ford's Model T.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2007 - 3:14 PM ET #84

    Vermeer said what I would..

    Use a trailing stop and be careful to not let it go lower than a certain point..it could keep running and cutting a winner short is a mistake I make too often.  
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    Vermeer said what I would..

    Use a trailing stop and be careful to not let it go lower than a certain point..it could keep running and cutting a winner short is a mistake I make too often.  
     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2007 - 3:46 PM ET #85

    Isn't the rule of thumb 10% down the point to cut and run, or is that old school?

     

     

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    Isn't the rule of thumb 10% down the point to cut and run, or is that old school?

     

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2007 - 3:47 PM ET #86

    Buying USU at 9.25 looks like it is due for a bounce up from here
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    Buying USU at 9.25 looks like it is due for a bounce up from here
     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2007 - 3:53 PM ET #87

    big short interest could be a short squeeze coming on USU?
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    big short interest could be a short squeeze coming on USU?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2007 - 3:59 PM ET #88

    Quote Originally Posted by Gridophiles:

    Isn't the rule of thumb 10% down the point to cut and run, or is that old school?

     

     



    I think so Grid, WSC may have other ideas. I think it also depends on your estimate of the stock's volatility and the market's volatility...you may wish to give a longer leash if you think it may be subject to whipsaws that would stop you out, then go right back up again...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gridophiles:

    Isn't the rule of thumb 10% down the point to cut and run, or is that old school?

     

     



    I think so Grid, WSC may have other ideas. I think it also depends on your estimate of the stock's volatility and the market's volatility...you may wish to give a longer leash if you think it may be subject to whipsaws that would stop you out, then go right back up again...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2007 - 4:21 PM ET #89

    Either a 10% stop, or look at the moving averages and dont let the stock go UNDER any signifigant moving averages...meaning the 20/50/200 based on your time horizon.

    I know last year someone had BIG gains on AMD and they used a stop and it saved their a$$...stops can get hit and are frustrating but over the long run, they are what saves you and protects your money.  
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    Either a 10% stop, or look at the moving averages and dont let the stock go UNDER any signifigant moving averages...meaning the 20/50/200 based on your time horizon.

    I know last year someone had BIG gains on AMD and they used a stop and it saved their a$$...stops can get hit and are frustrating but over the long run, they are what saves you and protects your money.  
     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2007 - 9:24 PM ET #90


     WSC: Those options are Lenny's to the month and strike price.I thought I he had earlier ones for some reason.

     Here is another thing to think about regarding oil...which I agree with.From a newsletter...

    OPEC has long dismissed the idea that it would stop pricing oil in dollars. But the current situation is making a switch all the more likely. A comment the other day from one prominent OPEC oil minister when asked about the cartel moving toward pricing oil in a basket of currencies was quite telling. Rather than denying such a switch was in the works, he stated that it simply wasn't feasible at this time. Of course the Iranians had no problems whatsoever in getting the Japanese to pay for their oil in yen, so there's no reason the rest of OPEC couldn't demand other currencies for their oil. And there's no reason the switch couldn't occur in short order.
     
    At this point it appears that it's a matter of when, not whether OPEC makes the switch to price there oil in something other than dollars.




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     WSC: Those options are Lenny's to the month and strike price.I thought I he had earlier ones for some reason.

     Here is another thing to think about regarding oil...which I agree with.From a newsletter...

    OPEC has long dismissed the idea that it would stop pricing oil in dollars. But the current situation is making a switch all the more likely. A comment the other day from one prominent OPEC oil minister when asked about the cartel moving toward pricing oil in a basket of currencies was quite telling. Rather than denying such a switch was in the works, he stated that it simply wasn't feasible at this time. Of course the Iranians had no problems whatsoever in getting the Japanese to pay for their oil in yen, so there's no reason the rest of OPEC couldn't demand other currencies for their oil. And there's no reason the switch couldn't occur in short order.
     
    At this point it appears that it's a matter of when, not whether OPEC makes the switch to price there oil in something other than dollars.




     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2007 - 9:27 PM ET #91

     Naturally that last line the word should read "their"  not as spelled...

     I do not know what the basket of currencies would raise the dollar price of oil, but I would assume, what, at least a 5-10 or more per cent hike in dollar price should they do that.
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     Naturally that last line the word should read "their"  not as spelled...

     I do not know what the basket of currencies would raise the dollar price of oil, but I would assume, what, at least a 5-10 or more per cent hike in dollar price should they do that.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2007 - 9:52 PM ET #92

    Yeah and that makes things even WORSE because of our sh!tty currency.

    So since the FED has seen fit to keep the bubble from popping, now oil can be indexed to our currency, and our government wont support alternative solutions..


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    Yeah and that makes things even WORSE because of our sh!tty currency.

    So since the FED has seen fit to keep the bubble from popping, now oil can be indexed to our currency, and our government wont support alternative solutions..


     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2007 - 11:03 PM ET #93


      There is an article on Miller's  (Legg Mason) contrarian calls on CFC and others..at Marketwatch.com  He really has got some stones, not sure I can go there at this point.

     Here is a link to the New Yorker article on the automobile...

    https://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/books/2007/11/05/071105crbo_books_kolbert
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      There is an article on Miller's  (Legg Mason) contrarian calls on CFC and others..at Marketwatch.com  He really has got some stones, not sure I can go there at this point.

     Here is a link to the New Yorker article on the automobile...

    https://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/books/2007/11/05/071105crbo_books_kolbert
     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2007 - 11:36 PM ET #94


    One last post: the statement by WAMU is  the biggest piece of BS I have read lately..LMAO...not in their interest sheesh..

    WaMu said it has cut ties to eAppraiseIT until it can investigate the situation."We have absolutely no incentive t o have appraisers inflate home values," the mortgage lender said in a statement. "Inflated appraisals are contrary to our interests. We use third-party appraisal companies to make sure that appraisals are objective and accurate."

    However, analysts at Keefe Bruyette & Woods were less sanguine about Washington Mutual's outlook and suggested a bleak scenario.

    "We believe that the only reason that Washington Mutual was not named as a defendant in the suit is strong federal pre-emption laws for thrifts preclude success for state lawsuits against Savings and Loan institutions," the analysts said.

    "In our view, the lawsuit raises an issue of considerable risk to Washington Mutual: that poorly performing securitized loans will be put back to WaMu (WM) from bondholders on the basis of fraudulent appraisals and WaMu would be forced to put bad loans back on its balance sheet," the analysts concluded in their research report Friday.




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    One last post: the statement by WAMU is  the biggest piece of BS I have read lately..LMAO...not in their interest sheesh..

    WaMu said it has cut ties to eAppraiseIT until it can investigate the situation."We have absolutely no incentive t o have appraisers inflate home values," the mortgage lender said in a statement. "Inflated appraisals are contrary to our interests. We use third-party appraisal companies to make sure that appraisals are objective and accurate."

    However, analysts at Keefe Bruyette & Woods were less sanguine about Washington Mutual's outlook and suggested a bleak scenario.

    "We believe that the only reason that Washington Mutual was not named as a defendant in the suit is strong federal pre-emption laws for thrifts preclude success for state lawsuits against Savings and Loan institutions," the analysts said.

    "In our view, the lawsuit raises an issue of considerable risk to Washington Mutual: that poorly performing securitized loans will be put back to WaMu (WM) from bondholders on the basis of fraudulent appraisals and WaMu would be forced to put bad loans back on its balance sheet," the analysts concluded in their research report Friday.




     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2007 - 12:42 AM ET #95

    Terrible articles there..wow how glum does that sound????

    Just for kicks I was looking at BIDU options, some puts on the stock, and for Jan 2009 300 puts are running FIFTY THREE bucks a contract..

    holy crap!
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    Terrible articles there..wow how glum does that sound????

    Just for kicks I was looking at BIDU options, some puts on the stock, and for Jan 2009 300 puts are running FIFTY THREE bucks a contract..

    holy crap!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2007 - 5:00 AM ET #96

    Yeah.......seems bleak.
     
    But the darkest hour is just before the dawn.
     
    Hope all had a good Friday.  Sat on sidelines and did nothing.  Am liking the sell-off in CRDC, though.  Want more and am happy to get it at a discount.
     
    Have a good weekend, everyone!
     
    Cheers
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    Yeah.......seems bleak.
     
    But the darkest hour is just before the dawn.
     
    Hope all had a good Friday.  Sat on sidelines and did nothing.  Am liking the sell-off in CRDC, though.  Want more and am happy to get it at a discount.
     
    Have a good weekend, everyone!
     
    Cheers
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2007 - 10:12 AM ET #97

    Here;s a (bleak) but fair summation , at least to me..from yet another ezine..

    As everyone knows, the Federal Reserve cut short-term interest rates this week – again. Doing so, we're told, will reduce the chance of a recession. Much less commonly discussed is the role the Fed plays in making sure the fools on Wall Street (most of whom, it seems, work at Merrill Lynch) don't go bankrupt. And even less well understood is how the expense of fixing Wall Street's balance sheets is passed along to you and me, via inflation.

    So... here's a tip: As the Fed cuts, look for commodities of every stripe to soar, the dollar to fall, and truly outrageous stock market bubbles to form in the countries of our largest trading partners. Will the average American ever figure out the connection between the price of gas – and just about everything else – and the size of Wall Street's write-offs and Congress' budget deficits? Probably not in my lifetime.


     




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    Here;s a (bleak) but fair summation , at least to me..from yet another ezine..

    As everyone knows, the Federal Reserve cut short-term interest rates this week – again. Doing so, we're told, will reduce the chance of a recession. Much less commonly discussed is the role the Fed plays in making sure the fools on Wall Street (most of whom, it seems, work at Merrill Lynch) don't go bankrupt. And even less well understood is how the expense of fixing Wall Street's balance sheets is passed along to you and me, via inflation.

    So... here's a tip: As the Fed cuts, look for commodities of every stripe to soar, the dollar to fall, and truly outrageous stock market bubbles to form in the countries of our largest trading partners. Will the average American ever figure out the connection between the price of gas – and just about everything else – and the size of Wall Street's write-offs and Congress' budget deficits? Probably not in my lifetime.


     




     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2007 - 10:31 AM ET #98

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    Yep, it's right on.  20% inflation will be here within next 12 months, right along side 7 dollars a gallon gas.
     
    So whatever your cost of living is right now, you want to either start slashing every gram of fat right now, or just add another 30% tip to it.....otherwise, you're going in the red, cause we as a people are one thing.......F _ C K _ D.
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    Vermeer-
     
    Yep, it's right on.  20% inflation will be here within next 12 months, right along side 7 dollars a gallon gas.
     
    So whatever your cost of living is right now, you want to either start slashing every gram of fat right now, or just add another 30% tip to it.....otherwise, you're going in the red, cause we as a people are one thing.......F _ C K _ D.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2007 - 10:33 AM ET #99

    We'll find some sort of way out of the darkness, but when/how.....I don't know.
     
    Could take a long, long, long time, so I am preparing for hell.
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    We'll find some sort of way out of the darkness, but when/how.....I don't know.
     
    Could take a long, long, long time, so I am preparing for hell.
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2007 - 10:46 AM ET #100

    This guy is too...he has a sense of humor, and I would take some of it with a grain of salt, he is a metalhead...but has been dead on the entire year I have read him...

    https://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/
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    This guy is too...he has a sense of humor, and I would take some of it with a grain of salt, he is a metalhead...but has been dead on the entire year I have read him...

    https://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/
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