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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2007 - 11:39 AM ET #1

    Good luck this month fellas. It is a day early to start the thread, but thats fine.


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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    Good luck this month fellas. It is a day early to start the thread, but thats fine.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2007 - 1:16 PM ET #2

    Todays action shows how crazy this market is. Looks like she goes higher barring some terrible news in an hour.

    One thing we should consider, yeah there is plenty of reasons to doubt the market, but one positive of the Fed shredding the currency is it creates foreign demand to the markets since people are buying our stocks at a discount. It could explain why the money flow is so strong and every dip is bought strongly.

    I will not be shorting into 2 PM today...in fact if they drop it, the play would be to buy unless the verbage from the Fed is terrible.
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    Todays action shows how crazy this market is. Looks like she goes higher barring some terrible news in an hour.

    One thing we should consider, yeah there is plenty of reasons to doubt the market, but one positive of the Fed shredding the currency is it creates foreign demand to the markets since people are buying our stocks at a discount. It could explain why the money flow is so strong and every dip is bought strongly.

    I will not be shorting into 2 PM today...in fact if they drop it, the play would be to buy unless the verbage from the Fed is terrible.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2007 - 2:03 PM ET #3

    Nice little % move in PTEC during the last hour.  Somebody stepping up their position.  I'll just sit here a keep researching the company and not buy though. 
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    Nice little % move in PTEC during the last hour.  Somebody stepping up their position.  I'll just sit here a keep researching the company and not buy though. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2007 - 2:07 PM ET #4

    wish i got into PTEC when i posted it last week, was hoping for a pullback but thats dumb.

    it goes to 20 in 12-18 months...a great growth play IMO

    i should buy it
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    wish i got into PTEC when i posted it last week, was hoping for a pullback but thats dumb.

    it goes to 20 in 12-18 months...a great growth play IMO

    i should buy it
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2007 - 2:23 PM ET #5

    Looks like they are selling it slightly because of the dissent vote, which means there wont be more cuts in the future.

    Fed funds futures moved up as well.


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    Looks like they are selling it slightly because of the dissent vote, which means there wont be more cuts in the future.

    Fed funds futures moved up as well.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2007 - 2:26 PM ET #6

    Tomorrow will be an ugle day in the market if you are long.
     
    You might get to slide today as all the gamblers have to unwind their various hedges.
     
    Tomorrow, the broad market will get shellacked.
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    Tomorrow will be an ugle day in the market if you are long.
     
    You might get to slide today as all the gamblers have to unwind their various hedges.
     
    Tomorrow, the broad market will get shellacked.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2007 - 2:32 PM ET #7

    Guaranteed that the KC Fed guy is net short the US market.
     
    FIX
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    Guaranteed that the KC Fed guy is net short the US market.
     
    FIX
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2007 - 2:32 PM ET #8

    I am not thrilled with how Scottrade locks up when the market volume increases..driving me crazy lately.


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    I am not thrilled with how Scottrade locks up when the market volume increases..driving me crazy lately.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2007 - 2:35 PM ET #9

    Sucks....
     
    Like 5 Dimes before Sunday football kickoff, Saturday college football kickoff, and Saturday college basketball tip-off.
     
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    Sucks....
     
    Like 5 Dimes before Sunday football kickoff, Saturday college football kickoff, and Saturday college basketball tip-off.
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2007 - 2:38 PM ET #10

      I agree CC, this ultimately will be viewed as a disappointment, and the broad market I think will decline in the coming days. Try as they might,I don't think the boosters of this old bull can overcome  the steady drumbeat of more dreadful news from the housing sector, and much more is to come, or so I think.
     
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      I agree CC, this ultimately will be viewed as a disappointment, and the broad market I think will decline in the coming days. Try as they might,I don't think the boosters of this old bull can overcome  the steady drumbeat of more dreadful news from the housing sector, and much more is to come, or so I think.
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2007 - 2:43 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by KOAJ:

    wish i got into PTEC when i posted it last week, was hoping for a pullback but thats dumb.

    it goes to 20 in 12-18 months...a great growth play IMO

    i should buy it

     

    I'm surprised your not.  I started digging into them as a result of your previous post. 

    Someday I'll man up and get level 2 service, but it appears there was a series of 1,800 block buys starting around 1:00pm. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOAJ:

    wish i got into PTEC when i posted it last week, was hoping for a pullback but thats dumb.

    it goes to 20 in 12-18 months...a great growth play IMO

    i should buy it

     

    I'm surprised your not.  I started digging into them as a result of your previous post. 

    Someday I'll man up and get level 2 service, but it appears there was a series of 1,800 block buys starting around 1:00pm. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2007 - 2:44 PM ET #12

    Vermeer-
     
    I am looking to get short something at today's close, or even earlier, if it appears that the "unwinding of all the hedges" isn't going to keep the broad market afloat.
     
    2 names that I won't be shorting, though:
     
    Yep----FSLR and SPWR
     
    Don't have the balls or stupidity to take those 2 on in a game or liar's poker......my sorry ass would be bankrupted by that machine.
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    Vermeer-
     
    I am looking to get short something at today's close, or even earlier, if it appears that the "unwinding of all the hedges" isn't going to keep the broad market afloat.
     
    2 names that I won't be shorting, though:
     
    Yep----FSLR and SPWR
     
    Don't have the balls or stupidity to take those 2 on in a game or liar's poker......my sorry ass would be bankrupted by that machine.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2007 - 2:47 PM ET #13

    No question about it, guys.
     
    The only thing keeping the indices in the black are hedge closes.  Once it's over, it'll seem like someone flushed the crapper.
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    No question about it, guys.
     
    The only thing keeping the indices in the black are hedge closes.  Once it's over, it'll seem like someone flushed the crapper.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2007 - 2:50 PM ET #14

    claycourt,

    I am not sure...

    Strong bounce here...money flow strong, you never know but going against seems crazy to me.
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    claycourt,

    I am not sure...

    Strong bounce here...money flow strong, you never know but going against seems crazy to me.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2007 - 2:53 PM ET #15

    I am sure that some talking media buffoon will get on one of the stock market casino channels this evening and tout every ticker symbol in his inventory with this yadda yadda----"Don't fight the FED."
     
    Then this same buffoon will be unloading his inventory on some poor schmuck.
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    I am sure that some talking media buffoon will get on one of the stock market casino channels this evening and tout every ticker symbol in his inventory with this yadda yadda----"Don't fight the FED."
     
    Then this same buffoon will be unloading his inventory on some poor schmuck.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2007 - 2:54 PM ET #16


     I am still in essence shorting financials. Might be wrong to do so, but every time SKF has retreated I have added to my position.

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     I am still in essence shorting financials. Might be wrong to do so, but every time SKF has retreated I have added to my position.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2007 - 2:55 PM ET #17

    WSC-
     
    Don't get buffaloed into thinking this "bounce" has legs.
     
    You know better than I how powerful a short covering rally can seem.
     
    Look to fade this "bounce" deal, man.
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    WSC-
     
    Don't get buffaloed into thinking this "bounce" has legs.
     
    You know better than I how powerful a short covering rally can seem.
     
    Look to fade this "bounce" deal, man.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2007 - 2:57 PM ET #18

    claycourt,

    I am reading the tape and since the initial drop the sucker has gone straight up.

    We should not forget that our currency discount means more foreign demand for stocks..no doubt about it.

    Who wants GOOG on a 20% discount? Many foreign investors..thats who.

    Now almost up 150 on the markets...

    Bad move to short this IMO..

    I tried to get some DRYS calls but of course the spread is wide as a truck and I didnt want to pay the ask..  

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    claycourt,

    I am reading the tape and since the initial drop the sucker has gone straight up.

    We should not forget that our currency discount means more foreign demand for stocks..no doubt about it.

    Who wants GOOG on a 20% discount? Many foreign investors..thats who.

    Now almost up 150 on the markets...

    Bad move to short this IMO..

    I tried to get some DRYS calls but of course the spread is wide as a truck and I didnt want to pay the ask..  

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2007 - 2:58 PM ET #19

    I did dump my IMB today..she sold off after the news, so I locked in my 2 plus points and will try again at lower levels.     
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    I did dump my IMB today..she sold off after the news, so I locked in my 2 plus points and will try again at lower levels.     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2007 - 2:58 PM ET #20

    Smart move, Vermeer.  Financials will keep the slow grind down scenario the next 2-3 months.
     
    Oh yeah, there'll be powerful and vicious short covering rallies in the interim that can scare the bajeezuz out of people, but at the end of the next 2-3 months:
     
    SLOW GRIND DOWN
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    Smart move, Vermeer.  Financials will keep the slow grind down scenario the next 2-3 months.
     
    Oh yeah, there'll be powerful and vicious short covering rallies in the interim that can scare the bajeezuz out of people, but at the end of the next 2-3 months:
     
    SLOW GRIND DOWN
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2007 - 3:01 PM ET #21

    Well, WSC, call me a dummy (we'll know for sure sooner than later), but I can tell you conclusively that I am looking to use this spike crap today as an "opportunity" to get short at a more favorable price.
     
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    Well, WSC, call me a dummy (we'll know for sure sooner than later), but I can tell you conclusively that I am looking to use this spike crap today as an "opportunity" to get short at a more favorable price.
     
    Cheers
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2007 - 3:02 PM ET #22

    60 minutes to go.........if it continues to spike, then I will get short the SP at the close.
     
    Not going to "wait and see" tomorrow.
     
    This is pure gambling.......gaming this FED nonsense.  Scary.
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    60 minutes to go.........if it continues to spike, then I will get short the SP at the close.
     
    Not going to "wait and see" tomorrow.
     
    This is pure gambling.......gaming this FED nonsense.  Scary.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2007 - 3:04 PM ET #23

    claycourt,

    Well lets talk turkey then.

    What are you going to short?

    If nothing else I am curious.

    Solars are up because oil is going to hit 100..I wouldnt short them, and I wouldnt short DRYS either..

    Maybe tech or financials...  
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    claycourt,

    Well lets talk turkey then.

    What are you going to short?

    If nothing else I am curious.

    Solars are up because oil is going to hit 100..I wouldnt short them, and I wouldnt short DRYS either..

    Maybe tech or financials...  
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2007 - 3:07 PM ET #24

    Looking over the S&P options, those crook MMs baked the calls heavy. The 1550 contract is up 2 bucks on a 16 buck move on the index.

    Too expensive for me to consider ITM or ATM options on the S&P.
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    Looking over the S&P options, those crook MMs baked the calls heavy. The 1550 contract is up 2 bucks on a 16 buck move on the index.

    Too expensive for me to consider ITM or ATM options on the S&P.
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2007 - 3:08 PM ET #25

    Easy short is right here:
     
    COUNTRYWIDE (you know the symbol)
     
    Price is 16ish.  Upside capped at 20ish, downside capped at 10ish.  More down than up, IMO.
     
    That's the easy one for me. 
     
    I will look to get short it at the close, unless the wind comes out of the sails on broad market first today (and it could).
     
     
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    Easy short is right here:
     
    COUNTRYWIDE (you know the symbol)
     
    Price is 16ish.  Upside capped at 20ish, downside capped at 10ish.  More down than up, IMO.
     
    That's the easy one for me. 
     
    I will look to get short it at the close, unless the wind comes out of the sails on broad market first today (and it could).
     
     
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