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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2008 - 4:30 PM ET #1


     Wow

     Good riddance to June...bear that I am, I still do not care to see the great crack up in progress...

    Let's hope we are nearing a top in oil and a bottom in the market, but I do not think either is the case...


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     Wow

     Good riddance to June...bear that I am, I still do not care to see the great crack up in progress...

    Let's hope we are nearing a top in oil and a bottom in the market, but I do not think either is the case...


     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2008 - 5:26 PM ET #2

    These afternoon swoons are indicitive of a declining market, this could easily carry into late August and the DOW in the low 10's..

    I dont want that but this really reminds me of 2002.
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    These afternoon swoons are indicitive of a declining market, this could easily carry into late August and the DOW in the low 10's..

    I dont want that but this really reminds me of 2002.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2008 - 5:49 PM ET #3


     It is looking grim that is for sure. Who wants to read the headline "worst June since the Depression"? But that is what it was...Not exactly a headline to make anyone feel like celebrating this weekend.

     

     

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     It is looking grim that is for sure. Who wants to read the headline "worst June since the Depression"? But that is what it was...Not exactly a headline to make anyone feel like celebrating this weekend.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2008 - 6:47 PM ET #4

    Here comes a shock to all...............
     
    SP 500 for July '08
     
    LOWER
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    Here comes a shock to all...............
     
    SP 500 for July '08
     
    LOWER
     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2008 - 6:48 PM ET #5

    My advice to all:
     
    Cash
    Drugs
    All of the above
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    My advice to all:
     
    Cash
    Drugs
    All of the above
     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2008 - 6:49 PM ET #6

    And by "Drugs," I gd sure as hell don't mean MRK, PHE, et al.
     
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    And by "Drugs," I gd sure as hell don't mean MRK, PHE, et al.
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2008 - 7:35 PM ET #7


     " I don't drink alcohol."

     "Oh, you will," said the Doctor.

     That classic from the incredible, fantastic novel Nightwood about says it all...I am sure there will be more people drowning their sorrows than celebrating the country on July 4.

      I see where MOS is now at $144.70 up from 32 within the past 52 weeks. And SKF is at $156.10. I am getting a little altitude sick over both, and wonder if I should not escape SKF.But methinks there is even more bad news to come from our friends in the financial field....



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     " I don't drink alcohol."

     "Oh, you will," said the Doctor.

     That classic from the incredible, fantastic novel Nightwood about says it all...I am sure there will be more people drowning their sorrows than celebrating the country on July 4.

      I see where MOS is now at $144.70 up from 32 within the past 52 weeks. And SKF is at $156.10. I am getting a little altitude sick over both, and wonder if I should not escape SKF.But methinks there is even more bad news to come from our friends in the financial field....



     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2008 - 10:45 PM ET #8

    Absolutely, let SKF go until C hits 10-12.
     
    When C hits 10-12, that will signal the bottom for the financials, which is where they'll stay.
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    Absolutely, let SKF go until C hits 10-12.
     
    When C hits 10-12, that will signal the bottom for the financials, which is where they'll stay.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2008 - 10:47 PM ET #9

    I am pulling for a few days of hype and hoopla so I can put on this C short.
     
    Unfortunately, the hype and hoopla in this hideous economy lasts for about 3 hours...............basically just a bunch of short covering.
     
     
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    I am pulling for a few days of hype and hoopla so I can put on this C short.
     
    Unfortunately, the hype and hoopla in this hideous economy lasts for about 3 hours...............basically just a bunch of short covering.
     
     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 1, 2008 - 1:55 AM ET #10


     I have a standing order for C at exactly 13,,,, on a dare it would never fill...

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     I have a standing order for C at exactly 13,,,, on a dare it would never fill...

     
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    Posted: Jul. 1, 2008 - 5:07 AM ET #11

    C at 13?
     
    SOLD
     
    You'll be able to get it at 10ish, I believe.  This ticker symbol is the classic poster child for what "broken" looks like.
     
    And once it gets to that level, it most likely stays there for a long time.  May go from 10 to 12, and then some dummy will get on TV and yap about how it "made a 20% move."  Wow.  Tell that to the poor guy/gal who got in at 60 and "is in it for the long term."
     
    Geez, that one has just crumbled.
     
    And, looks like a lot more selling the rest of the week going in to July 4.  No reason whatsoever to buy anything.  Short covering, selling, short covering, selling.
     
    Cheers
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    C at 13?
     
    SOLD
     
    You'll be able to get it at 10ish, I believe.  This ticker symbol is the classic poster child for what "broken" looks like.
     
    And once it gets to that level, it most likely stays there for a long time.  May go from 10 to 12, and then some dummy will get on TV and yap about how it "made a 20% move."  Wow.  Tell that to the poor guy/gal who got in at 60 and "is in it for the long term."
     
    Geez, that one has just crumbled.
     
    And, looks like a lot more selling the rest of the week going in to July 4.  No reason whatsoever to buy anything.  Short covering, selling, short covering, selling.
     
    Cheers
     
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    Posted: Jul. 1, 2008 - 6:03 AM ET #12

    Just saw futures.  Ugggg-llyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.
     
    Looks like today is the woosh down open with capitulation running amok.
     
    Time to get long SP 500 "for a trade only."
     
    Good luck to all.
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    Just saw futures.  Ugggg-llyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.
     
    Looks like today is the woosh down open with capitulation running amok.
     
    Time to get long SP 500 "for a trade only."
     
    Good luck to all.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 1, 2008 - 10:03 AM ET #13

    HYGS is doing it again.  Up another 20% today so far.  Up over 400% in less than 3 mos.
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    HYGS is doing it again.  Up another 20% today so far.  Up over 400% in less than 3 mos.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 1, 2008 - 11:15 AM ET #14


    Avoid the dollar ``at all costs,'' Rogers, chairman of Rogers Holdings, said in a speech in Shanghai today. ``The best investments in 2008 are commodities and natural resources. Agricultural prices have much higher to go over the next decade. We have a shortage of everything, including seeds.''

    Oil and metal prices in New York have surged as a slumping U.S. currency made them cheaper for non-dollar investors to buy as a hedge against inflation in a slowing global economy. The dollar has stabilized in recent weeks, with currency volatility falling by the most since 1999 this quarter.

    Rogers, who now lives in Singapore, is best known for being a commodity bull since 1999, before the market started to rally in 2002. His Rogers International Commodity Index has more than quadrupled since it started in 1998.

    The price of wheat, rice and soybeans reached records this year after adverse weather curbed global output and reduced stockpiles amid rising demand.

    `Not High Enough'

    Rogers is anticipating further gains in crude oil, which reached an all-time high of $142.99 a barrel on June 27. Futures were recently at $142.74.

    ``Crude oil prices are not high enough to stop people from consuming more energy,'' the investor said. ``The bull market will not go to an end until supply and demand come to a balance.''


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    Avoid the dollar ``at all costs,'' Rogers, chairman of Rogers Holdings, said in a speech in Shanghai today. ``The best investments in 2008 are commodities and natural resources. Agricultural prices have much higher to go over the next decade. We have a shortage of everything, including seeds.''

    Oil and metal prices in New York have surged as a slumping U.S. currency made them cheaper for non-dollar investors to buy as a hedge against inflation in a slowing global economy. The dollar has stabilized in recent weeks, with currency volatility falling by the most since 1999 this quarter.

    Rogers, who now lives in Singapore, is best known for being a commodity bull since 1999, before the market started to rally in 2002. His Rogers International Commodity Index has more than quadrupled since it started in 1998.

    The price of wheat, rice and soybeans reached records this year after adverse weather curbed global output and reduced stockpiles amid rising demand.

    `Not High Enough'

    Rogers is anticipating further gains in crude oil, which reached an all-time high of $142.99 a barrel on June 27. Futures were recently at $142.74.

    ``Crude oil prices are not high enough to stop people from consuming more energy,'' the investor said. ``The bull market will not go to an end until supply and demand come to a balance.''


     
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    Posted: Jul. 1, 2008 - 11:26 AM ET #15


      Man my little position in HOKU has seriously dwindled...good grief....I wonder if I should place an order at 4.5 and double the holding...

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      Man my little position in HOKU has seriously dwindled...good grief....I wonder if I should place an order at 4.5 and double the holding...

     
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    Posted: Jul. 1, 2008 - 11:46 AM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by Vermeer:


      Man my little position in HOKU has seriously dwindled...good grief....I wonder if I should place an order at 4.5 and double the holding...



    No.  Buy HYGS at less than half the price and watch it fly by HOKU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vermeer:


      Man my little position in HOKU has seriously dwindled...good grief....I wonder if I should place an order at 4.5 and double the holding...



    No.  Buy HYGS at less than half the price and watch it fly by HOKU.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 1, 2008 - 12:25 PM ET #17

    Nasty action..the last half hour has been brutal, straight down.

    HOKU is a long long term proposition, it might take 3 years to unfold.


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    Nasty action..the last half hour has been brutal, straight down.

    HOKU is a long long term proposition, it might take 3 years to unfold.


     
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    Posted: Jul. 1, 2008 - 12:42 PM ET #18

    The defense official told ABC News one red line that could trigger an Israeli offensive would be when Iran's nuclear facility had produced enough enriched uranium to create an atomic weapon. That could happen in 2009 or later this year, ABC News reported, citing U.S. and Israeli intelligence assessments.
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    The defense official told ABC News one red line that could trigger an Israeli offensive would be when Iran's nuclear facility had produced enough enriched uranium to create an atomic weapon. That could happen in 2009 or later this year, ABC News reported, citing U.S. and Israeli intelligence assessments.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 1, 2008 - 12:47 PM ET #19

     SKF just rocking along...
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     SKF just rocking along...
     
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    Posted: Jul. 1, 2008 - 12:47 PM ET #20

    SDS/QID/DOG
     
    just blowing up
     
    Ultra short is the way to go in this market...forget trying to find individual value on stocks now...the bottom is falling....S&P will break 1260 today and Dow will break 11000 by end of week....scary stuff folks
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    SDS/QID/DOG
     
    just blowing up
     
    Ultra short is the way to go in this market...forget trying to find individual value on stocks now...the bottom is falling....S&P will break 1260 today and Dow will break 11000 by end of week....scary stuff folks
     
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    Posted: Jul. 1, 2008 - 12:47 PM ET #21

    The second that Isreal takes action, the market is toast.

    Not that the market isnt toast already but that day they take out all the high PE stocks and shoot them to death.
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    The second that Isreal takes action, the market is toast.

    Not that the market isnt toast already but that day they take out all the high PE stocks and shoot them to death.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 1, 2008 - 1:02 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    The second that Isreal takes action, the market is toast.

    Not that the market isnt toast already but that day they take out all the high PE stocks and shoot them to death.


       Absolutely, except the oils like PBR ...20% of world oil coming through Hormuz, which no doubt be closed as a result.

      Mu, you and I are unfortunately on the same page. I see a sickly summer...
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    The second that Isreal takes action, the market is toast.

    Not that the market isnt toast already but that day they take out all the high PE stocks and shoot them to death.


       Absolutely, except the oils like PBR ...20% of world oil coming through Hormuz, which no doubt be closed as a result.

      Mu, you and I are unfortunately on the same page. I see a sickly summer...
     
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    Posted: Jul. 1, 2008 - 1:28 PM ET #23

    i wish i knew why steel stocks were getting killed today

    some "value" in AKS (my fave) off 7% but just added to the sp500
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    i wish i knew why steel stocks were getting killed today

    some "value" in AKS (my fave) off 7% but just added to the sp500
     
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    Posted: Jul. 1, 2008 - 1:43 PM ET #24

    Fert stocks getting it today as well, so are pure refiners.

    Not too much damage to tech generally speaking, so more selling for sure.

    2002 revisited.


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    Fert stocks getting it today as well, so are pure refiners.

    Not too much damage to tech generally speaking, so more selling for sure.

    2002 revisited.


     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 1, 2008 - 1:52 PM ET #25

    GM running, check out a minute chart.


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    GM running, check out a minute chart.


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