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    mainman11111
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    Posted: May. 30, 2016 - 5:36 PM ET #1

    Stephen Hawking called Trump "a demagogue who seems to appeal to the lowest common denominator,”

    Read more: https://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/stephen-hawking-trump-223707#ixzz4AB3K3UBB 






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    Stephen Hawking called Trump "a demagogue who seems to appeal to the lowest common denominator,”

    Read more: https://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/stephen-hawking-trump-223707#ixzz4AB3K3UBB 






     
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    Posted: May. 30, 2016 - 5:58 PM ET #2

    "Who the hell is Stephen Hawking?"

    "What is a demagogue?"

    "What is a lowest common denominator"


    - 99% of Trump voters
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    "Who the hell is Stephen Hawking?"

    "What is a demagogue?"

    "What is a lowest common denominator"


    - 99% of Trump voters
     
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    Posted: May. 30, 2016 - 6:20 PM ET #3

    I can't wait for this election to be over.  

    No matter who wins, everyone will hear constant b!tching.  
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    I can't wait for this election to be over.  

    No matter who wins, everyone will hear constant b!tching.  
     
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    Posted: May. 30, 2016 - 6:56 PM ET #4

    Bws
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    Bws
     
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    Posted: May. 30, 2016 - 7:03 PM ET #5

    Considering all the hype and hoopla around Trump, It's quite interesting to see the bookies still have him as +200 underdog to become next president, I think he will fall just short.
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    Considering all the hype and hoopla around Trump, It's quite interesting to see the bookies still have him as +200 underdog to become next president, I think he will fall just short.
     
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    Posted: May. 30, 2016 - 11:36 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by SwishSwish1234:

    Considering all the hype and hoopla around Trump, It's quite interesting to see the bookies still have him as +200 underdog to become next president, I think he will fall just short.
      So Billary wins? God help us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwishSwish1234:

    Considering all the hype and hoopla around Trump, It's quite interesting to see the bookies still have him as +200 underdog to become next president, I think he will fall just short.
      So Billary wins? God help us.
     
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    Posted: May. 30, 2016 - 11:53 PM ET #7

    You ever heard of people so smart they can't remember how to open a doorknob?

    How he can say this about Trump, if indeed he did say these things (I didn't feel like reading the link, I'll take your word for it) but not say it about the Democratic party, ESPECIALLY Hillary Clinton, defies all logic and universal law.  One of the few times I tried to stomach one of her speeches on the campaign trail recently she was pandering to blacks about an epidemic of police violence upon young African Americans.  If that ain't the lowest common denominator I don't know what is.


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    You ever heard of people so smart they can't remember how to open a doorknob?

    How he can say this about Trump, if indeed he did say these things (I didn't feel like reading the link, I'll take your word for it) but not say it about the Democratic party, ESPECIALLY Hillary Clinton, defies all logic and universal law.  One of the few times I tried to stomach one of her speeches on the campaign trail recently she was pandering to blacks about an epidemic of police violence upon young African Americans.  If that ain't the lowest common denominator I don't know what is.


     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2016 - 12:58 AM ET #8

    Speaking of common denominators, have some of you forgotten some of the common denominators that define a nation?

    As in clear, defensible borders and a group of people under one government?  So basically much of the criticism of Trump is that he wants to protect what makes us a country.  Illegals pouring in through the border or inviting in groups of people without being able to identify if they are enemies or if they place sharia law above US law kind of threatens that, don't you think?

    Everyone agrees Rome was a model of a successful civilization for a long time right (~1000 yrs)?  Guess what.  They had an extremely advanced, organized military which defended their territory and a population that cherished their Roman citizenship. Citizenship which they didn't easily give to outsiders.
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    Speaking of common denominators, have some of you forgotten some of the common denominators that define a nation?

    As in clear, defensible borders and a group of people under one government?  So basically much of the criticism of Trump is that he wants to protect what makes us a country.  Illegals pouring in through the border or inviting in groups of people without being able to identify if they are enemies or if they place sharia law above US law kind of threatens that, don't you think?

    Everyone agrees Rome was a model of a successful civilization for a long time right (~1000 yrs)?  Guess what.  They had an extremely advanced, organized military which defended their territory and a population that cherished their Roman citizenship. Citizenship which they didn't easily give to outsiders.
     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2016 - 2:03 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by thecentaur:

     
    Everyone agrees Rome was a model of a successful civilization for a long time right (~1000 yrs)?  Guess what.  They had an extremely advanced, organized military which defended their territory and a population that cherished their Roman citizenship. Citizenship which they didn't easily give to outsiders.

    They actually did give citizenship to outsiders (both allies and conquered people).  If a slave was freed, his children were automatically citizens.

    Also, non-citizen residents did most of the work in Italy, which is not that dissimilar to illegal aliens.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by thecentaur:

     
    Everyone agrees Rome was a model of a successful civilization for a long time right (~1000 yrs)?  Guess what.  They had an extremely advanced, organized military which defended their territory and a population that cherished their Roman citizenship. Citizenship which they didn't easily give to outsiders.

    They actually did give citizenship to outsiders (both allies and conquered people).  If a slave was freed, his children were automatically citizens.

    Also, non-citizen residents did most of the work in Italy, which is not that dissimilar to illegal aliens.  
     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2016 - 3:02 PM ET #10

    FEEL THE BERN ! Revolution is at hand.
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    FEEL THE BERN ! Revolution is at hand.
     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2016 - 3:10 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by thecentaur:

    You ever heard of people so smart they can't remember how to open a doorknob?

    How he can say this about Trump, if indeed he did say these things (I didn't feel like reading the link, I'll take your word for it) but not say it about the Democratic party, ESPECIALLY Hillary Clinton, defies all logic and universal law.  One of the few times I tried to stomach one of her speeches on the campaign trail recently she was pandering to blacks about an epidemic of police violence upon young African Americans.  If that ain't the lowest common denominator I don't know what is.



    Pandering is Politics 101.   Trump tweeting out a picture of his mexican food on Cinco De Mayo saying he loves latinos is the same thing.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by thecentaur:

    You ever heard of people so smart they can't remember how to open a doorknob?

    How he can say this about Trump, if indeed he did say these things (I didn't feel like reading the link, I'll take your word for it) but not say it about the Democratic party, ESPECIALLY Hillary Clinton, defies all logic and universal law.  One of the few times I tried to stomach one of her speeches on the campaign trail recently she was pandering to blacks about an epidemic of police violence upon young African Americans.  If that ain't the lowest common denominator I don't know what is.



    Pandering is Politics 101.   Trump tweeting out a picture of his mexican food on Cinco De Mayo saying he loves latinos is the same thing.  
     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2016 - 3:18 PM ET #12

    Who really gives a sh!t what this old Limey thinks about our presidential race?  What makes him an expert on how to govern a nation?

    Stick to cosmology and physics old man where you deal more with theory over reality.  

    Stupid thread.  
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    Who really gives a sh!t what this old Limey thinks about our presidential race?  What makes him an expert on how to govern a nation?

    Stick to cosmology and physics old man where you deal more with theory over reality.  

    Stupid thread.  
     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2016 - 3:20 PM ET #13

    And shame on you for not wanting America to be great again, hahahahaha
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    And shame on you for not wanting America to be great again, hahahahaha
     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2016 - 3:39 PM ET #14

    Stephen Hawking is in the end a teacher and belongs to a Teachers Union which are Democratic Slush Funds so a teacher should surprise no-one if his politics are progressive because he is" smarter" then the lowest common denomination and knows what is best for them.
    World's smartest man is a consensus and is opinion not fact.
    If there are no blackholes or Big Bang beginning of Time, Hawking is another gasbag.
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    Stephen Hawking is in the end a teacher and belongs to a Teachers Union which are Democratic Slush Funds so a teacher should surprise no-one if his politics are progressive because he is" smarter" then the lowest common denomination and knows what is best for them.
    World's smartest man is a consensus and is opinion not fact.
    If there are no blackholes or Big Bang beginning of Time, Hawking is another gasbag.
     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2016 - 4:32 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by mainman11111:

    Stephen Hawking called Trump "a demagogue who seems to appeal to the lowest common denominator,”

    Read more: https://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/stephen-hawking-trump-223707#ixzz4AB3K3UBB 







    Stephen isn't the smartest man...where did you come up with that?

    How can this dude be smart when he believes gravity created everything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mainman11111:

    Stephen Hawking called Trump "a demagogue who seems to appeal to the lowest common denominator,”

    Read more: https://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/stephen-hawking-trump-223707#ixzz4AB3K3UBB 







    Stephen isn't the smartest man...where did you come up with that?

    How can this dude be smart when he believes gravity created everything?

     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2016 - 9:48 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluefin:

    FEEL THE BERN ! Revolution is at hand.



    The latest is now that Gary Johnson is running for the Libertarians ,,it''s......
    #FeeltheJohnson..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluefin:

    FEEL THE BERN ! Revolution is at hand.



    The latest is now that Gary Johnson is running for the Libertarians ,,it''s......
    #FeeltheJohnson..
     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2016 - 10:00 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:




    The latest is now that Gary Johnson is running for the Libertarians ,,it''s......
    #FeeltheJohnson..

    Uncle Slim keeping it creepy.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:




    The latest is now that Gary Johnson is running for the Libertarians ,,it''s......
    #FeeltheJohnson..

    Uncle Slim keeping it creepy.......
     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2016 - 10:49 PM ET #18

    A demagogue is a political agitator who gains or uses power by apealing to the ignorance or prejudice of people.  For example, Hitler who has been compared to Trump.
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    A demagogue is a political agitator who gains or uses power by apealing to the ignorance or prejudice of people.  For example, Hitler who has been compared to Trump.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2016 - 12:55 PM ET #19

    not sure this thread can get any better than when sirjohn questions whether stephen hawking is smart
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    not sure this thread can get any better than when sirjohn questions whether stephen hawking is smart
     
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    Yeah I thought he had really dig his own grave at that point.

    Looks like Sara thought so too rushing in to try to spin the thread, not sure if him coming accross as a creepy closet case sexual deviant was purpose or just simply consistent with who he is. 


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    Yeah I thought he had really dig his own grave at that point.

    Looks like Sara thought so too rushing in to try to spin the thread, not sure if him coming accross as a creepy closet case sexual deviant was purpose or just simply consistent with who he is. 


     
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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2016 - 2:58 PM ET #21

    https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/stephen-hawking-angers-trump-supporters-with-baffling-array-of-long-words

    Hopefully this will help the trump supporters get a clue as to what is going on. 
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    https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/stephen-hawking-angers-trump-supporters-with-baffling-array-of-long-words

    Hopefully this will help the trump supporters get a clue as to what is going on. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2016 - 11:07 PM ET #22

    Hawking should not be regarded as any smarter than a street bum in terms of his political views.

    If you think to the contrary... Einstein (as a person) deplored the far left tactics of social engineering of the Nazi's... something the left continues to attempt today.  Would we want to praise Einstein for his political views as well?



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    Hawking should not be regarded as any smarter than a street bum in terms of his political views.

    If you think to the contrary... Einstein (as a person) deplored the far left tactics of social engineering of the Nazi's... something the left continues to attempt today.  Would we want to praise Einstein for his political views as well?



     
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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2016 - 11:23 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

      So Billary wins? God help us.

    You are smarter than that... and the electorate is smarter than that.

    Sometimes the odds are soooo wrong.  Trump wins in a LANDSLIDE and the odds will reverse fairly soon
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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

      So Billary wins? God help us.

    You are smarter than that... and the electorate is smarter than that.

    Sometimes the odds are soooo wrong.  Trump wins in a LANDSLIDE and the odds will reverse fairly soon
     
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    To the OP of this thread.. World's smartest man.. why not expand it to the world's "richest"  man, too ?? Such a small man's viewpoint.

    Why the hell should we succumb to those that  are the ""  richest & smartest.""    Ironically enough, they are not very "smart" at understanding what makes a society move forward.  (i.e. less government).

    I know .. such a foreign concept to you folks on the left.   It's just that those "smartest" and "richest" have accumulated their wealth, and think not of the good of the rest of society...  only themselves.

    For you folks on the "left"  you re-read the above post again.

     

     

     

     

     

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    To the OP of this thread.. World's smartest man.. why not expand it to the world's "richest"  man, too ?? Such a small man's viewpoint.

    Why the hell should we succumb to those that  are the ""  richest & smartest.""    Ironically enough, they are not very "smart" at understanding what makes a society move forward.  (i.e. less government).

    I know .. such a foreign concept to you folks on the left.   It's just that those "smartest" and "richest" have accumulated their wealth, and think not of the good of the rest of society...  only themselves.

    For you folks on the "left"  you re-read the above post again.

     

     

     

     

     

     
     
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    The development of modern morality is a process closely tied to sociocultural evolution. Some evolutionary biologists, particularly sociobiologists, believe that morality is a product of evolutionary forces acting at an individual level and also at the group level through group selection (although to what degree this actually occurs is a controversial topic in evolutionary theory). Some sociobiologists contend that the set of behaviors that constitute morality evolved largely because they provided possible survival and/or reproductive benefits (i.e. increased evolutionary success). Humans consequently evolved "pro-social" emotions, such as feelings of empathy or guilt, in response to these moral behaviors.

    On this understanding, moralities are sets of self-perpetuating and biologically-driven behaviors which encourage human cooperation. Biologists contend that all social animals, from ants to elephants, have modified their behaviors, by restraining immediate selfishness in order to improve their evolutionary fitness. Human morality, although sophisticated and complex relative to other animals, is essentially a natural phenomenon that evolved to restrict excessive individualism that could undermine a group's cohesion and thereby reducing the individuals' fitness.[17]

    On this view, moral codes are ultimately founded on emotional instincts and intuitions that were selected for in the past because they aided survival and reproduction (inclusive fitness). Examples: the maternal bond is selected for because it improves the survival of offspring; the Westermarck effect, where close proximity during early years reduces mutual sexual attraction, underpins taboos against incest because it decreases the likelihood of genetically risky behaviour such as inbreeding.

    The phenomenon of reciprocity in nature is seen by evolutionary biologists as one way to begin to understand human morality. Its function is typically to ensure a reliable supply of essential resources, especially for animals living in a habitat where food quantity or quality fluctuates unpredictably. For example, some vampire bats fail to feed on prey some nights while others manage to consume a surplus. Bats that did eat will then regurgitate part of their blood meal to save a conspecific from starvation. Since these animals live in close-knit groups over many years, an individual can count on other group members to return the favor on nights when it goes hungry (Wilkinson, 1984)

    Marc Bekoff and Jessica Pierce (2009) have argued that morality is a suite of behavioral capacities likely shared by all mammals living in complex social groups (e.g., wolves, coyotes, elephants, dolphins, rats, chimpanzees). They define morality as "a suite of interrelated other-regarding behaviors that cultivate and regulate complex interactions within social groups." This suite of behaviors includes empathy, reciprocity, altruism, cooperation, and a sense of fairness.[18] In related work, it has been convincingly demonstrated that chimpanzees show empathy for each other in a wide variety of contexts.[19] They also possess the ability to engage in deception, and a level of social politics[20] prototypical of our own tendencies for gossip and reputation management.

    Christopher Boehm (1982)[21] has hypothesized that the incremental development of moral complexity throughout hominid evolution was due to the increasing need to avoid disputes and injuries in moving to open savanna and developing stone weapons. Other theories are that increasing complexity was simply a correlate of increasing group size and brain size, and in particular the development of theory of mind abilities.

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    The development of modern morality is a process closely tied to sociocultural evolution. Some evolutionary biologists, particularly sociobiologists, believe that morality is a product of evolutionary forces acting at an individual level and also at the group level through group selection (although to what degree this actually occurs is a controversial topic in evolutionary theory). Some sociobiologists contend that the set of behaviors that constitute morality evolved largely because they provided possible survival and/or reproductive benefits (i.e. increased evolutionary success). Humans consequently evolved "pro-social" emotions, such as feelings of empathy or guilt, in response to these moral behaviors.

    On this understanding, moralities are sets of self-perpetuating and biologically-driven behaviors which encourage human cooperation. Biologists contend that all social animals, from ants to elephants, have modified their behaviors, by restraining immediate selfishness in order to improve their evolutionary fitness. Human morality, although sophisticated and complex relative to other animals, is essentially a natural phenomenon that evolved to restrict excessive individualism that could undermine a group's cohesion and thereby reducing the individuals' fitness.[17]

    On this view, moral codes are ultimately founded on emotional instincts and intuitions that were selected for in the past because they aided survival and reproduction (inclusive fitness). Examples: the maternal bond is selected for because it improves the survival of offspring; the Westermarck effect, where close proximity during early years reduces mutual sexual attraction, underpins taboos against incest because it decreases the likelihood of genetically risky behaviour such as inbreeding.

    The phenomenon of reciprocity in nature is seen by evolutionary biologists as one way to begin to understand human morality. Its function is typically to ensure a reliable supply of essential resources, especially for animals living in a habitat where food quantity or quality fluctuates unpredictably. For example, some vampire bats fail to feed on prey some nights while others manage to consume a surplus. Bats that did eat will then regurgitate part of their blood meal to save a conspecific from starvation. Since these animals live in close-knit groups over many years, an individual can count on other group members to return the favor on nights when it goes hungry (Wilkinson, 1984)

    Marc Bekoff and Jessica Pierce (2009) have argued that morality is a suite of behavioral capacities likely shared by all mammals living in complex social groups (e.g., wolves, coyotes, elephants, dolphins, rats, chimpanzees). They define morality as "a suite of interrelated other-regarding behaviors that cultivate and regulate complex interactions within social groups." This suite of behaviors includes empathy, reciprocity, altruism, cooperation, and a sense of fairness.[18] In related work, it has been convincingly demonstrated that chimpanzees show empathy for each other in a wide variety of contexts.[19] They also possess the ability to engage in deception, and a level of social politics[20] prototypical of our own tendencies for gossip and reputation management.

    Christopher Boehm (1982)[21] has hypothesized that the incremental development of moral complexity throughout hominid evolution was due to the increasing need to avoid disputes and injuries in moving to open savanna and developing stone weapons. Other theories are that increasing complexity was simply a correlate of increasing group size and brain size, and in particular the development of theory of mind abilities.

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