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tmstr929

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Posted: May. 4, 2011 - 1:27 PM ET #26

heres a bit of a different slant on things, but as off the wall as it may sound, it answers alot of the questions being asked of this whole bin laden fiasco, the entire middle east vs america thing sure plays out like a WWE production, if the powers that be decide that the "good guy" will generate more support for the show being a "bad guy" they have him do something to turn the public against him and he becomes the bad guy for a while until people stop watching and then its someone elses turn to assume that role. when russia invaded afganistan who funded and trained the rebels lead by bin laden? we did.
and when iraq was at war with iran who funded and trained the iraqi army? we did
when the attacks of 9-11 happened, who flew osama bin ladens parents out of saudi arabia? we did
when it comes to the middle east, we have a "the enemy of my enemy is my friend mentality" the role of the bad guy changes to promote our agenda, or so it seems.
and if as its been rumored bin laden was/is a cia operative who actually controls al queada (or however ya spell it)
and where is that tv station over there "al jahesuschristherewego" (or however ya pronounce it) why havent they paraded the surviving women on tv claiming all the bad things we did to them and the childre when we stormed the "HOSPITAL" compound as is always the case

greedler

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Posted: May. 4, 2011 - 1:30 PM ET #27

Quote Originally Posted by tmstr929:

heres a bit of a different slant on things, but as off the wall as it may sound, it answers alot of the questions being asked of this whole bin laden fiasco, the entire middle east vs america thing sure plays out like a WWE production, if the powers that be decide that the "good guy" will generate more support for the show being a "bad guy" they have him do something to turn the public against him and he becomes the bad guy for a while until people stop watching and then its someone elses turn to assume that role. when russia invaded afganistan who funded and trained the rebels lead by bin laden? we did.
and when iraq was at war with iran who funded and trained the iraqi army? we did
when the attacks of 9-11 happened, who flew osama bin ladens parents out of saudi arabia? we did
when it comes to the middle east, we have a "the enemy of my enemy is my friend mentality" the role of the bad guy changes to promote our agenda, or so it seems.
and if as its been rumored bin laden was/is a cia operative who actually controls al queada (or however ya spell it)
and where is that tv station over there "al jahesuschristherewego" (or however ya pronounce it) why havent they paraded the surviving women on tv claiming all the bad things we did to them and the childre when we stormed the "HOSPITAL" compound as is always the case

Exactly politics is like WWE.

HutchEmAll

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Posted: May. 4, 2011 - 2:09 PM ET #28

Quote Originally Posted by greedler:

Your confusing hubris for stupidity. These people are so filled with absolute power even they get to big for their britches.

Once again I havent heard a single person say hes not dead.

They waited to use it when they needed it. The mass hysteria surrounding Obama has finally wore off. If you havent looked around lately this country is probably in the worst shape its ever been.

Um, no I'm not. As you just stated, they can't even get the story straight on what happened in the raid. Would it really be that hard to get one story straight for something as seemingly simple as a 40 minute raid?

That's stupidity.

misfit_aka

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Posted: May. 4, 2011 - 2:17 PM ET #29

Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

They aren't smart enough to pull off a big lie like that.

BTW, if he's not dead, why isn't Al Quaida shoving it right down our throats. You think they would pass up an opportunity to throw egg in our face if he as a live? You've got to be joking. Same thing if he died of natural causes.

And if he has been dead for some time, why wouldn't the US have taken credit for it when it happened?????? What possible motivation could there be keeping it a secret until recently? There is NONE.

For those pissing and moaning about our government lying to us.....your possible alternatives as to what "really" happened are off the charts preposterous. It's just fact.

prob becuase bin laden has been dead for yrs...al-qeada felt his vision would be better served if he was thought alive...the US wanted to squeeze out every last bit of obama juice to take away rights and make money fighting wars as they could...

greedler

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Posted: May. 4, 2011 - 2:18 PM ET #30

I think this quote from the other thread fits here as well from karl rove about how they just make shit up as they go.

The aide said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." ... "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors…and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."^[2]

misfit_aka

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Posted: May. 4, 2011 - 2:18 PM ET #31

bin laden has been killed atleast 8 times now btw

HutchEmAll

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Posted: May. 4, 2011 - 2:26 PM ET #32

They waited to use it when they needed it.

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Then they didn't wait long enough. Bush got a 15 point jump in the polls when he captured S. Hussein. Want to know how long that lasted? A whopping SEVEN weeks.

So Obama is going to get 2 years out of Bin Laden?

Once again, you are proving my point. If their goal was to "wait until the needed it," then they didn't wait nearly long enough. More supitidy on their part.

When does logic come into your argument???

HutchEmAll

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Posted: May. 4, 2011 - 2:28 PM ET #33

Quote Originally Posted by misfit_aka:

Then Al Quaida would be front and center proving the US wrong and making us look like fools.

When does logic come in for you guys?

PASA818

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Posted: May. 4, 2011 - 2:28 PM ET #34

They are waiting for WWE to approve there video before releasing it. They want to hype this and maybe we will see Bin Laden at Wrestlemania in a match with Obama.

HutchEmAll

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Posted: May. 4, 2011 - 2:29 PM ET #35

Quote Originally Posted by misfit_aka:

bin laden has been killed atleast 8 times now btw

Feel free to reference one past story which included the president announcing his death in a press conference. Just 1 would be great.

greedler

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Posted: May. 4, 2011 - 2:33 PM ET #36

Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

They waited to use it when they needed it.

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Then they didn't wait long enough. Bush got a 15 point jump in the polls when he captured S. Hussein. Want to know how long that lasted? A whopping SEVEN weeks.

So Obama is going to get 2 years out of Bin Laden?

Once again, you are proving my point. If their goal was to "wait until the needed it," then they didn't wait nearly long enough. More supitidy on their part.

When does logic come into your argument???

Alright hutch we get it. You think the largest empire the world has ever seen is run by Al Bundy. I see you didnt comment on Karl Rove saying they create the reality as they go.

kickinA

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Posted: May. 4, 2011 - 2:41 PM ET #37

Maybe they're saving these "photos" until come election time late next year?

tmstr929

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Posted: May. 4, 2011 - 2:47 PM ET #38

heres my thoughts on the timing, bin laden is not the key to re-election the economics is, and in 2 days the economic numbers are coming out and they will show a jump in un-employment to 8 1/2%, obamas numbers are already low, this news could be cripple his chances so they throw this out there to distract people from the real issues

BowmansAddict

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Posted: May. 4, 2011 - 2:47 PM ET #39

hutchem you are one brainwashed sap..they have you by the collar and wish each and every one of us "little people" were as controlled as you are..you obviously believe what they want you to believe and seems that will never change...

there are two sides here and we can discuss all we want no one is going to swap their belief system

its like with a hot lesbian, she prefers the snatch ain't anything you can do change that

the message here in the least is open your eyes wider because the leaders that run our countries are no better than who hitler was or who saddam was..they would kill you in the blink of an eye and your death wouldn't mean a damn thing to them

is like how they praise their military..our brave men and women this..the true heroes that..then they come home from battle with severe injuries and no one gives a rats ass about them

wake up

greedler

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Posted: May. 4, 2011 - 2:50 PM ET #40

How about were closing in on 1000 dead troops in afghanistan just since obama took office? Jesus man bring those kids home already havent enough died over this bullshit?

kickinA

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Posted: May. 4, 2011 - 2:53 PM ET #41

Quote Originally Posted by BowmansAddict:

there are two sides here and we can discuss all we want no one is going to swap their belief system

its like with a hot lesbian, she prefers the snatch ain't anything you can do change that

is like how they praise their military..our brave men and women this..the true heroes that..then they come home from battle with severe injuries and no one gives a rats ass about them

wake up

Or how about praising our border guards and agents down by the border for a job well done, only then to turn around and supply the rogue individuals in "Meh-hi-co" with guns and ammos to escalate the situation. War is . (Just not for you and I)

HutchEmAll

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Posted: May. 4, 2011 - 2:53 PM ET #42

Quote Originally Posted by greedler:

Alright hutch we get it. You think the largest empire the world has ever seen is run by Al Bundy. I see you didnt comment on Karl Rove saying they create the reality as they go.

I've said numerous times that I thought the would spin the story a number of different ways. And I've said numerous times that I don't believe half of what the government tells me.

But I do believe they killed Bin Laden the other day and I don't believe they orchestrated 9/11.

HutchEmAll

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Posted: May. 4, 2011 - 2:54 PM ET #43

And I don't believe Obama "took this out when he needed it" because it's only going to have legs in the polls for a matter of 2 lousy months.

greedler

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Posted: May. 4, 2011 - 3:00 PM ET #44

Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

And I don't believe Obama "took this out when he needed it" because it's only going to have legs in the polls for a matter of 2 lousy months.

I never said it would work. Hes been finished for a while now. But dont think for second they dont think of devious ways to rasie his polls. Perfect example some stooge saying obama needs a oklahoma event to reconnect with the public.

https://www.examiner.com/right-side-politics-in-national/flashback-operative-mark-penn-says-obama-needs-similar-event-to-oklahoma-city-to-reconnect-with-voters-video

BowmansAddict

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Posted: May. 4, 2011 - 3:00 PM ET #45

hutchem, question for you

why did they dump bin laden into the sea so quick? i mean they announced his death..you go to the bathroom to take a shit, come back and before you know it he was gone....

the guy was disposed of before lots of people were even aware of this entire story..

so let me get this straight, they honored bin laden's religion by trashing his body within a 24 hour period?? him? honored? they had respect for him? the guy who bush himself refered to as scum, the guy the office claimed was the worst piece of scuz alive? really? the us miliary , with a total lack of conscience, tortures and murders innocent civilians, but treats the worst human in the world with dignity??

please man don't bring your garbage in here...for you to tell me you are buying this shit..man if i had friends that believed in it i'd lose respect for them..the ppl upstairs clearly ran out of ideas and assume americans are braindead trolls..its hard separating news from comedy these days

dogunder

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Posted: May. 4, 2011 - 5:35 PM ET #46

Quote Originally Posted by dennishopson:

Obama had as much to do with the end of Bin Laden as I did.

well congrats to the two of you then because hes dead

OnlyGod

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Posted: May. 4, 2011 - 5:42 PM ET #47

Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

I simply refuse to watch the news. Sportscenter is all the news I need...

Fuckin Eh Homey Fuckin Eh

Stephen Colbert actually gives a pretty good news cast.

tmstr929

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Posted: May. 4, 2011 - 9:56 PM ET #48

Quote Originally Posted by BowmansAddict:

hutchem, question for you

why did they dump bin laden into the sea so quick? i mean they announced his death..you go to the bathroom to take a shit, come back and before you know it he was gone....

the guy was disposed of before lots of people were even aware of this entire story..

WHAT? WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU SMOKING? you wanna elaborate?

tmstr929

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Posted: May. 4, 2011 - 11:23 PM ET #49

heres another WWE reference for ya, is it just me or is al quaida starting to appear to be to the US what DX is to vince mcmahon, they say awful things about him and slap him around every once in awhile, but in reality its just what vince told them to say and do to keep the fans watching

greedler

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Posted: May. 4, 2011 - 11:34 PM ET #50

Quote Originally Posted by tmstr929:

heres another WWE reference for ya, is it just me or is al quaida starting to appear to be to the US what DX is to vince mcmahon, they say awful things about him and slap him around every once in awhile, but in reality its just what vince told them to say and do to keep the fans watching

Exactly. Libya was the dead give away for that. Weve been fighting Al Qaeda and been told they were our mortal enemy for years then one day they magically became our friends in libya.

I dont think the actual Islamist that are fighting know this but they are really taking their orders from the Double agents the UN controls. Wait a minute..... if we are supporting Al Qaeda in libya shouldnt we be sad Bin Ladens dead? Isnt he Al Qaeda?

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