My wife does not smoke I do, she made a trip a month ago.She
stayed in a fancy hotel in San Fran in a non smoking room put it on credit card when the bill came in there was a charge for $250 for cleaning room due to detection of smoke after she checked out.
I sent the bill back to the hotel with a note telling them she does not smoke FUCK YOU it may have even been a maid WTF knows that charging for smells is BULLSHIT. I have been in Hotels where the cleaning agents and air freshner was so strong it gags you I wonder if you can bill the hotel after you leave for that smell.
and your point ? So thayt makes it right to smoke in a hotel room when the ENTIRE FUCKING HOTEL IS NON SMOKING ?
Quote Originally Posted by Bluefin:
My wife does not smoke I do, she made a trip a month ago.She
stayed in a fancy hotel in San Fran in a non smoking room put it on credit card when the bill came in there was a charge for $250 for cleaning room due to detection of smoke after she checked out.
I sent the bill back to the hotel with a note telling them she does not smoke FUCK YOU it may have even been a maid WTF knows that charging for smells is BULLSHIT. I have been in Hotels where the cleaning agents and air freshner was so strong it gags you I wonder if you can bill the hotel after you leave for that smell.
and your point ? So thayt makes it right to smoke in a hotel room when the ENTIRE FUCKING HOTEL IS NON SMOKING ?
Would I be pissed if my room smelled like smoke? yes would I complain and ask to be moved? if it smelled bad enough yes ...would I rat out a guest? no but I might handle it myself with a knock on the door or a comment in the elevator .... But listen to what your saying do you always stay in hotels that are 4 days old ??? have you ever seen documentaries of how filthy hotels are????? buddy its a fucking hotel room they are cess pools of filth do you think the bed spread was changed after that guy fucked his girl in the ass right before he lit that ciggy??? ...First thing I do before I smell for smoke is strip the bed spread and put it in the corner of the room i dont want to be anywhere near that thing.....honestly how many of you guys have gone to a room and threw your woman down and fucked her right there ontop of the bed not in it??
we have become a society that is intolerant of everything...our immune systems are weak not because of what someone did before us its because we shelter ourselves and our children from evry damn thing in the world chris sake schools dont want your kids in school if they have the sniffles.. we shelter ourselves so much our bodies cant handle the slightest attack on our immune systems wtf is going on nowadays
Would I be pissed if my room smelled like smoke? yes would I complain and ask to be moved? if it smelled bad enough yes ...would I rat out a guest? no but I might handle it myself with a knock on the door or a comment in the elevator .... But listen to what your saying do you always stay in hotels that are 4 days old ??? have you ever seen documentaries of how filthy hotels are????? buddy its a fucking hotel room they are cess pools of filth do you think the bed spread was changed after that guy fucked his girl in the ass right before he lit that ciggy??? ...First thing I do before I smell for smoke is strip the bed spread and put it in the corner of the room i dont want to be anywhere near that thing.....honestly how many of you guys have gone to a room and threw your woman down and fucked her right there ontop of the bed not in it??
we have become a society that is intolerant of everything...our immune systems are weak not because of what someone did before us its because we shelter ourselves and our children from evry damn thing in the world chris sake schools dont want your kids in school if they have the sniffles.. we shelter ourselves so much our bodies cant handle the slightest attack on our immune systems wtf is going on nowadays
Dr Rays you and a gazillion other people have athsma someone smoking didnt cause it you have it plain and simple and if you are at the point where your athsmas that bad where you cannot tolerate any ciggy smoke at all I have 4 suggestions
1 stay at a friends where they dont smoke
2 stay at a camp ground where you can breath "fresh air"
3 travel with oxygen and or your god damn albuterol
4 STAY AT HOME IN YOUR BUBBLE
Dr Rays you and a gazillion other people have athsma someone smoking didnt cause it you have it plain and simple and if you are at the point where your athsmas that bad where you cannot tolerate any ciggy smoke at all I have 4 suggestions
1 stay at a friends where they dont smoke
2 stay at a camp ground where you can breath "fresh air"
3 travel with oxygen and or your god damn albuterol
Would I be pissed if my room smelled like smoke? yes would I complain and ask to be moved? if it smelled bad enough yes ...would I rat out a guest? no but I might handle it myself with a knock on the door or a comment in the elevator .... But listen to what your saying do you always stay in hotels that are 4 days old ??? have you ever seen documentaries of how filthy hotels are????? buddy its a fucking hotel room they are cess pools of filth do you think the bed spread was changed after that guy fucked his girl in the ass right before he lit that ciggy??? ...First thing I do before I smell for smoke is strip the bed spread and put it in the corner of the room i dont want to be anywhere near that thing.....honestly how many of you guys have gone to a room and threw your woman down and fucked her right there ontop of the bed not in it??
we have become a society that is intolerant of everything...our immune systems are weak not because of what someone did before us its because we shelter ourselves and our children from evry damn thing in the world chris sake schools dont want your kids in school if they have the sniffles.. we shelter ourselves so much our bodies cant handle the slightest attack on our immune systems wtf is going on nowadays
You are absolutely right on this one. Well put.
You are also absolutely wrong on the asthama thing tho. I have a son with it. Smoking is a trigger. You are saying ANYONE has a right to pollut anyone else's air? That is just ridiculous. Not asking for special stairs, elevators, handicapped accessible facilities, or anything that costs a bunde that you and I end up paying for. Just asking for a little respect, which should be common sense. Why not just ban this filthy, scummy, unhealthy, drain on health services and employers. There is ABSOLUTELY nothing good about cigarettes. Nobody, nobody has this right. What part of this doesn't anyone get? Thank GOD they are banning smoking in restaurants/bars in many states. I now can go out, ENJOY my beverage and food, and I don't have to smoke too (2nd hand). If you are stupid enough to smoke, at least have the respect to not smoke in a non-smoking room. Grow up a little and stop being so self centered. There are over 6 billion on this planet. It is NOT your ash tray, and nobody here is really all that important. Get over yourselves.
Quote Originally Posted by nickypockets:
Would I be pissed if my room smelled like smoke? yes would I complain and ask to be moved? if it smelled bad enough yes ...would I rat out a guest? no but I might handle it myself with a knock on the door or a comment in the elevator .... But listen to what your saying do you always stay in hotels that are 4 days old ??? have you ever seen documentaries of how filthy hotels are????? buddy its a fucking hotel room they are cess pools of filth do you think the bed spread was changed after that guy fucked his girl in the ass right before he lit that ciggy??? ...First thing I do before I smell for smoke is strip the bed spread and put it in the corner of the room i dont want to be anywhere near that thing.....honestly how many of you guys have gone to a room and threw your woman down and fucked her right there ontop of the bed not in it??
we have become a society that is intolerant of everything...our immune systems are weak not because of what someone did before us its because we shelter ourselves and our children from evry damn thing in the world chris sake schools dont want your kids in school if they have the sniffles.. we shelter ourselves so much our bodies cant handle the slightest attack on our immune systems wtf is going on nowadays
You are absolutely right on this one. Well put.
You are also absolutely wrong on the asthama thing tho. I have a son with it. Smoking is a trigger. You are saying ANYONE has a right to pollut anyone else's air? That is just ridiculous. Not asking for special stairs, elevators, handicapped accessible facilities, or anything that costs a bunde that you and I end up paying for. Just asking for a little respect, which should be common sense. Why not just ban this filthy, scummy, unhealthy, drain on health services and employers. There is ABSOLUTELY nothing good about cigarettes. Nobody, nobody has this right. What part of this doesn't anyone get? Thank GOD they are banning smoking in restaurants/bars in many states. I now can go out, ENJOY my beverage and food, and I don't have to smoke too (2nd hand). If you are stupid enough to smoke, at least have the respect to not smoke in a non-smoking room. Grow up a little and stop being so self centered. There are over 6 billion on this planet. It is NOT your ash tray, and nobody here is really all that important. Get over yourselves.
nickypockets, not directing that tirade at you. Just the inconsiderate cancer stick smokes. Know what's funny tho? We own 11 hotels, and are making progress to go completely non-smoking. I can't tell you how many smokers ASK for a non-smokng room...even THEY can't stand it. How sad is that?
nickypockets, not directing that tirade at you. Just the inconsiderate cancer stick smokes. Know what's funny tho? We own 11 hotels, and are making progress to go completely non-smoking. I can't tell you how many smokers ASK for a non-smokng room...even THEY can't stand it. How sad is that?
my daughter has athsma as well but I dont shelter her a person with asthma has to deal with it and it sucks IF smoke bothers her she moves away from the smoke she doesnt ask the smoker to move..... but there is a difference with someone in a car or room with closed windows and alot of smoke and a room that SMELLS like smoke... smoke and smells like smoke are two completely different things and a room that SMELLS does not trigger asthma it just smelly
my daughter has athsma as well but I dont shelter her a person with asthma has to deal with it and it sucks IF smoke bothers her she moves away from the smoke she doesnt ask the smoker to move..... but there is a difference with someone in a car or room with closed windows and alot of smoke and a room that SMELLS like smoke... smoke and smells like smoke are two completely different things and a room that SMELLS does not trigger asthma it just smelly
Dr Rays was bitching because a guy down the hall was smoking .... a guy down the hall? should he been ? NO but he was........ if Dr Ray went to his room and closed the door Im sure he would have been fine Dr Ray wasnt in any immediate harm or close to an attack this Im completely sure what he was was pissed off plain and simple....I understand you trying to go completely smokelss in your Hotel biz but dont try and tell me you wouldnt sell an empty room to a smoker who needed one... Im sure you would clearly state this is no smoking and you could be charged an extra fee if you do but you would not turn anyone away and sorry to say they just probably will smoke anyway.. but to take it a step further just say the smoker does the right thing and steps outide his room to smoke someone will say something about that as well .. we have become a society of bitches live and let live is something no one does we are constantly "bitching" about this or that.. Im not a smoker I have a nastier habit I dip and eventhough its my choice and my body and does nobody but me any harm ..I hear thats a gross habit do you have to spit in that cup or bottle just one time Ide like to say well would you rather i spit on your fucking rug shut the fuck up all people do is bitch about what everyone else is doing
Dr Rays was bitching because a guy down the hall was smoking .... a guy down the hall? should he been ? NO but he was........ if Dr Ray went to his room and closed the door Im sure he would have been fine Dr Ray wasnt in any immediate harm or close to an attack this Im completely sure what he was was pissed off plain and simple....I understand you trying to go completely smokelss in your Hotel biz but dont try and tell me you wouldnt sell an empty room to a smoker who needed one... Im sure you would clearly state this is no smoking and you could be charged an extra fee if you do but you would not turn anyone away and sorry to say they just probably will smoke anyway.. but to take it a step further just say the smoker does the right thing and steps outide his room to smoke someone will say something about that as well .. we have become a society of bitches live and let live is something no one does we are constantly "bitching" about this or that.. Im not a smoker I have a nastier habit I dip and eventhough its my choice and my body and does nobody but me any harm ..I hear thats a gross habit do you have to spit in that cup or bottle just one time Ide like to say well would you rather i spit on your fucking rug shut the fuck up all people do is bitch about what everyone else is doing
The funny thing here is that many of the replies try to defend or side with the smoker because he got "narced out" by a hotel guest instead of the hotel finding out about it on their own. Smokers, when you break non-smoking rules and get caught, the only fault is your own. Businesses and other public places aren't secretly raising no smoking signs behind your back or trying to get you if you do smoke - they tell you before you even think of smoking. You choose to break the rules, then you assume the risk and liability of the punishment for doing so. A place like a non-smoking hotel alerts you when you book your room (online), when you check in, and when you go into your room - if not on the elevator and in other public places at the hotel on your way to your room. Pointing the finger at the narc, security, manager or whomever when you get busted is just a way of trying to defer blame and not accept your own responsibility.
Fact: cigarette smoke leaves residue behind whether smokers see, smell, feel or care to admit it. Smokers: go get lung xrays and tell me different - or better yet, get them after 30 or 40 years of smoking, if your lungs hold out that long. The residue is nasty and affects everyone, some more others, some less. But nasty as it is, smokers still enjoy it or accept it as a side effect to their addiction.
Here's a silly analogy but one nonetheless. Say you're a cigarette smoker and the guy in the room next to you or even six rooms down enjoys burning paper bundles, plant leaves and wood inside his room instead of tobacco because he likes the smell and taste of that in the air. That smoke also soils the air and everything inside the room. You walk down the hall and even though you smell it, would you just let it go "because he paid for the room"? And would you confront him about it or tell security because you don't know what mental state the guy is in in the first place (especially to be burning that stuff)? Oh btw, cigarettes are paper, plants and wood. So the analogy is not that far of a stretch.
Asking security or the manager to do something about a smoker is the best possible solution for the OP and anyone else facing this situation. It insures anonimity and eliminates having to face down someone who is nonconformist in the first place. Besides - who knows who is behind the door in the room the smoker is in?
This thread emphasizes a particular lack of respect for rules and highlights those people that choose to disobey them, enforce them, and penalize for breaking them. Spin it any way you will, if the smoker was not in the wrong in the first place, this thread and discussion would never have occured.
The funny thing here is that many of the replies try to defend or side with the smoker because he got "narced out" by a hotel guest instead of the hotel finding out about it on their own. Smokers, when you break non-smoking rules and get caught, the only fault is your own. Businesses and other public places aren't secretly raising no smoking signs behind your back or trying to get you if you do smoke - they tell you before you even think of smoking. You choose to break the rules, then you assume the risk and liability of the punishment for doing so. A place like a non-smoking hotel alerts you when you book your room (online), when you check in, and when you go into your room - if not on the elevator and in other public places at the hotel on your way to your room. Pointing the finger at the narc, security, manager or whomever when you get busted is just a way of trying to defer blame and not accept your own responsibility.
Fact: cigarette smoke leaves residue behind whether smokers see, smell, feel or care to admit it. Smokers: go get lung xrays and tell me different - or better yet, get them after 30 or 40 years of smoking, if your lungs hold out that long. The residue is nasty and affects everyone, some more others, some less. But nasty as it is, smokers still enjoy it or accept it as a side effect to their addiction.
Here's a silly analogy but one nonetheless. Say you're a cigarette smoker and the guy in the room next to you or even six rooms down enjoys burning paper bundles, plant leaves and wood inside his room instead of tobacco because he likes the smell and taste of that in the air. That smoke also soils the air and everything inside the room. You walk down the hall and even though you smell it, would you just let it go "because he paid for the room"? And would you confront him about it or tell security because you don't know what mental state the guy is in in the first place (especially to be burning that stuff)? Oh btw, cigarettes are paper, plants and wood. So the analogy is not that far of a stretch.
Asking security or the manager to do something about a smoker is the best possible solution for the OP and anyone else facing this situation. It insures anonimity and eliminates having to face down someone who is nonconformist in the first place. Besides - who knows who is behind the door in the room the smoker is in?
This thread emphasizes a particular lack of respect for rules and highlights those people that choose to disobey them, enforce them, and penalize for breaking them. Spin it any way you will, if the smoker was not in the wrong in the first place, this thread and discussion would never have occured.
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