September 11, 2001 (long read)

You just can't debate because you know we're far too advanced for your intelligence level.

I understand.  I'll lay off you from now on.  Sorry about that

How can you not see that the Towers fell in 9.2 seconds!  Show me a single video that proves they fell in more time than that! 

I never, not once, never ever ever -ever-, said that the "billiard ball experiment" was related to -anything- that had to do with the WTC.  As a matter of fact, that experiment happened years before (from 2006 ).  For about 2-3 pages now, I've been holding out proof that the experiment actually did happen, and was performed by Columbia.  I wanted you to continue to dig yourself deeper by denying it, but it seems you're "slightly" admitting that it may have been true now. 

The experiment was not done to satisfy 9/11 conspirators.  It was simply done to demonstrate the laws of physics to freshman students at Columbia.  Again, it was done in 2006 and had nothing to do with proving, debunking, or contradicting anything 9/11 related.

I think you attempted in this post to try and tie me to saying that 9/11 was a precursor for the experiment.  I never said that and it is not the case.

With all the video of the WTC collapse on 9/11, as well as Tower #7, you think that we would be able to disprove the free fall speed theory, right?  I mean, you said it yourself, the laws of physics are clearly defined.  There are set formulas to which speed and time can be calculated.  By looking at the videos and subsituting numbers into those formulas, we can determine that all 3 buildings fell in free fall speed.

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THIS THREAD IS NOW 

Not even close

Although nikon's grammar wasn't as perfect as it could have been, he raises many other points that we have not talked about

spiff, care to engage any of his arguements?  I agree with most, but would like your take (and any others) before I get started on my response

That's a question I'm not sure I can answer

Had I just been a random U.S. citizens from the mid-west, and had no family involved in the incident, then I probably wouldn't have seen some of the things I've seen.  I doubt I would have had the oppertunity to speak and get "official" explanations to certain things, as I have since my father passed.

Once the explanations started making no sense, I started digging deeper. As I've said before:  Little lie = Big lie

I also don't think anyone should be alarmed by my stance on these issues.  I have absolutely no intentions on turning to violence.  I'm not out to "bring anyone down".  I simply want people in this country, and others, to realize that we've been dooped, and our government and the group known as the Bilderbergs are two of the most corrupt, dispicable, and powerful entities in the entire universe

i dont know what to believe, but i have 2 things to chime in on.

first:  i have a good friend who worked in the pentagon at the time, he said that he nor anyone in his area even felt, heard, or knew that anything flew into the pentagon.  he said they were just told to evacuate.  but he was on the other side of the pentagon at the time.

second:  i was at work in downtown dc at the time, and i live in virginia.  i passed the pentagon every day to and from work.  the area where the pentagon was hit, i only saw smoke coming out of the pentagon on 9/11, did not see anything resembling a plane.  i would think a person could see something. 

again, just wanted to chime in and not arguing any side.

smdio seems like a good guy, but he has taken a path wih this conspiracy thing which I don't agree with, With the additional motivation of having lost a loved one, I believe he is blinded to any fact which doesn't support that which he wants to see (that is a 2 way street).

What is realy disturbing about this thread is what it reminds me of, and that is that smdio is to 9/11 conspiracy what scalabrine is to the white conspiracy 

I obviously meant 1996.  It was very late last night and I could barely see.  Sorry bout that.  I'll read the rest later after football and reply

Thanks for the kind words about my dad, I appreciate it

But sir, have -you- actually watched a controlled demolition side by side with the WTC collapse?  Better yet, just watch Tower 7 vs. a Controlled Demo. 

I'd love if you would post links after you do..

Guys:  I've said from the very beginning of this thread that I'm willing to change just about all of my views.  I have 3 key points that I highlighted above, and I'm more than willing to listen to rebuttles and consider the alternative arguements.

But no one has been able to put my concerns to rest.  You are all simply saying "he won't listen to us" while providing absolutely no arguement against what I'm saying. 

Throw me a logical arguement, video, or report that debunks my 3 biggest claims.  If you can do that, I'll applaud you and consider myself in the wrong. 

But no one has done that yet.  Not only in this thread, but no one in real life either.

Funny you referred to that video that the Govt released

There is a man in the video with Bin Laden, I dont remember his name (I could google it but I don't want to right now, NFL is on).  They show him walking around the room, and handing Bin Laden documents to sign, which Osama then signs with his left hand.  First of all, Bin Laden is right handed.  But that's not my gripe.

The man that was walking around the room and handed him the documents HAS NO LEGS.  He was injured during combat and needed to have both legs amputated to survive.  Yet in this "offcial video", the man is walking around freely without obstruction. 

I can go on and on, but I really only want answers to my 3 main points.  Yet no one is willing to do it..