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    Posted: May. 30, 2011 - 3:53 AM ET #1276

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    There is no evidence showing the COMPLETE transformation from man to apes. Darwin himself said there should be an abundant amount of transitionary fossils.

    140 yrs later we have found about 4 which are controversial at best

    "apes to man"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    There is no evidence showing the COMPLETE transformation from man to apes. Darwin himself said there should be an abundant amount of transitionary fossils.

    140 yrs later we have found about 4 which are controversial at best

    "apes to man"

     
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    Posted: May. 30, 2011 - 9:38 AM ET #1277

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    There is no evidence showing the COMPLETE transformation from man to apes. Darwin himself said there should be an abundant amount of transitionary fossils.

    140 yrs later we have found about 4 which are controversial at best



    The link below shoes the so called "ape-man" that you claim don't exist. Keep in mind that these fossils are not 100% ape or 100% human. They most likely were able to make fire and made tools, what were they doing in the garden of Eden? If you story was true these fossils should not exist at all.

    https://www.theistic-evolution.com/transitional.html


    I understand that you will more than likely say that they are fake because you are not allowed to ever change your mind under the threat of a fate worst than death according to your religion. What a shame that is, but here they are buddy.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    There is no evidence showing the COMPLETE transformation from man to apes. Darwin himself said there should be an abundant amount of transitionary fossils.

    140 yrs later we have found about 4 which are controversial at best



    The link below shoes the so called "ape-man" that you claim don't exist. Keep in mind that these fossils are not 100% ape or 100% human. They most likely were able to make fire and made tools, what were they doing in the garden of Eden? If you story was true these fossils should not exist at all.

    https://www.theistic-evolution.com/transitional.html


    I understand that you will more than likely say that they are fake because you are not allowed to ever change your mind under the threat of a fate worst than death according to your religion. What a shame that is, but here they are buddy.



     
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    Posted: May. 30, 2011 - 9:38 AM ET #1278

    ****shows the so called "ape-man"
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    Posted: May. 30, 2011 - 9:43 AM ET #1279

    Besides all that, none of you STILL have any support for your position at all. You continually ignore my question about step number 2, yet you criticize something that explains it because of a book written by primitive bigoted bronze age goat herders says humans were popped into existence from dirt ex nihilo.
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    Besides all that, none of you STILL have any support for your position at all. You continually ignore my question about step number 2, yet you criticize something that explains it because of a book written by primitive bigoted bronze age goat herders says humans were popped into existence from dirt ex nihilo.
     
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    Posted: May. 30, 2011 - 9:56 AM ET #1280

    the never ending thread...................... 

     

    Rostos Cameron............... 

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    the never ending thread...................... 

     

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    Posted: May. 30, 2011 - 10:00 AM ET #1281

    the oroginal title to this thread is tough questions about chrristianity.

    here's a guy who molested kids and used expensive gifts to the kids to entice them to do it and keep quiet about it.  after his church pays millions in a child molestation lawsuit, he comes back to "work" and is celebrated by tyhe same people who contributed money to allow his to molest kid and pay the expensive settlements.  how does this make sense?  

    if his congregation, which was in the 25,000's at some point, support this guy, wouldn't you expect they'd believe in anything?   certainly sant clause, the tooth fairy and the easter bunny wouldn't be much of a stretch.
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    the oroginal title to this thread is tough questions about chrristianity.

    here's a guy who molested kids and used expensive gifts to the kids to entice them to do it and keep quiet about it.  after his church pays millions in a child molestation lawsuit, he comes back to "work" and is celebrated by tyhe same people who contributed money to allow his to molest kid and pay the expensive settlements.  how does this make sense?  

    if his congregation, which was in the 25,000's at some point, support this guy, wouldn't you expect they'd believe in anything?   certainly sant clause, the tooth fairy and the easter bunny wouldn't be much of a stretch.
     
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    Posted: May. 30, 2011 - 10:00 AM ET #1282

    Quote Originally Posted by aerial:

    KittyKatz, appreciate the response, though it is what it is, up in arms "Harry Potter" banter. If there is no reason to rebuke evolution on your claims, there must be a scientific world view you can identify with at least the name of ancient man that evolved from these apes. Naturalism not based solely on scientific data, but also on gratuitous atheistic assumptions does not equal fact.  Not interested in 1000 years from now and beyond, just the process between ape and man you are describing. Your ancient man and ape will have a name you can bring to the table. Signing out, so take your time. If you can direct myself with a more scientific explanation I will denounce my God. I'm not interested in gravity, opinions, but the information you can present on evolution that YOU endorse as truth being based on scientific fact.



    You don't have to denounce your God. All you have to do is realize that Genesis was never ment to be taken literally as an account of creation of the universe. It isn't, nowhere even close.

    Here are a few videos from youtube to explain it

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w57_P9DZJ4&feature=related
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCayG4IIOEQ&feature=related

    Here is a video from Dr. Ken Miller (Christian biologist) explaning the fusion of chromosome #2.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi8FfMBYCkk&feature=related


    This one covers evolution on a whole

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DDhfqMIqRM

    This one shits on people that say we don't act like apes....


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    KittyKatz, appreciate the response, though it is what it is, up in arms "Harry Potter" banter. If there is no reason to rebuke evolution on your claims, there must be a scientific world view you can identify with at least the name of ancient man that evolved from these apes. Naturalism not based solely on scientific data, but also on gratuitous atheistic assumptions does not equal fact.  Not interested in 1000 years from now and beyond, just the process between ape and man you are describing. Your ancient man and ape will have a name you can bring to the table. Signing out, so take your time. If you can direct myself with a more scientific explanation I will denounce my God. I'm not interested in gravity, opinions, but the information you can present on evolution that YOU endorse as truth being based on scientific fact.



    You don't have to denounce your God. All you have to do is realize that Genesis was never ment to be taken literally as an account of creation of the universe. It isn't, nowhere even close.

    Here are a few videos from youtube to explain it

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w57_P9DZJ4&feature=related
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCayG4IIOEQ&feature=related

    Here is a video from Dr. Ken Miller (Christian biologist) explaning the fusion of chromosome #2.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi8FfMBYCkk&feature=related


    This one covers evolution on a whole

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DDhfqMIqRM

    This one shits on people that say we don't act like apes....


     
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    Posted: May. 30, 2011 - 10:06 AM ET #1283

    when the creation scientists say the 2nd law of thermodynamics violates evolution...tell them they do not understand the 2nd law

    https://biologos.org/questions/evolution-and-the-second-law/

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    when the creation scientists say the 2nd law of thermodynamics violates evolution...tell them they do not understand the 2nd law

    https://biologos.org/questions/evolution-and-the-second-law/

     
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    Posted: May. 30, 2011 - 10:19 AM ET #1284

    Quote Originally Posted by MRGETRICH:



    You don't have to denounce your God. All you have to do is realize that Genesis was never ment to be taken literally as an account of creation of the universe. It isn't, nowhere even close.

    Here are a few videos from youtube to explain it

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w57_P9DZJ4&feature=related
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCayG4IIOEQ&feature=related

    Here is a video from Dr. Ken Miller (Christian biologist) explaning the fusion of chromosome #2.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi8FfMBYCkk&feature=related


    This one covers evolution on a whole

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DDhfqMIqRM

    This one shits on people that say we don't act like apes....


    look at all the God approven rape and murder in the KJV 1611 bible....denouncing that God is the only option
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    Quote Originally Posted by MRGETRICH:



    You don't have to denounce your God. All you have to do is realize that Genesis was never ment to be taken literally as an account of creation of the universe. It isn't, nowhere even close.

    Here are a few videos from youtube to explain it

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w57_P9DZJ4&feature=related
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCayG4IIOEQ&feature=related

    Here is a video from Dr. Ken Miller (Christian biologist) explaning the fusion of chromosome #2.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi8FfMBYCkk&feature=related


    This one covers evolution on a whole

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DDhfqMIqRM

    This one shits on people that say we don't act like apes....


    look at all the God approven rape and murder in the KJV 1611 bible....denouncing that God is the only option
     
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    Posted: May. 30, 2011 - 10:52 AM ET #1285

    Why would God reward non believers?
    https://www.lotterypost.com/news/232109
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    https://www.lotterypost.com/news/232109
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    the oroginal title to this thread is tough questions about chrristianity.

    here's a guy who molested kids and used expensive gifts to the kids to entice them to do it and keep quiet about it.  after his church pays millions in a child molestation lawsuit, he comes back to "work" and is celebrated by tyhe same people who contributed money to allow his to molest kid and pay the expensive settlements.  how does this make sense?  

    if his congregation, which was in the 25,000's at some point, support this guy, wouldn't you expect they'd believe in anything?   certainly sant clause, the tooth fairy and the easter bunny wouldn't be much of a stretch.

    There should certainly be a major distinction between the questions "Do you believe in God and/or Christ?" and "What are your  thoughts on organized religion ?" My answers would seem contradictory to most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    the oroginal title to this thread is tough questions about chrristianity.

    here's a guy who molested kids and used expensive gifts to the kids to entice them to do it and keep quiet about it.  after his church pays millions in a child molestation lawsuit, he comes back to "work" and is celebrated by tyhe same people who contributed money to allow his to molest kid and pay the expensive settlements.  how does this make sense?  

    if his congregation, which was in the 25,000's at some point, support this guy, wouldn't you expect they'd believe in anything?   certainly sant clause, the tooth fairy and the easter bunny wouldn't be much of a stretch.

    There should certainly be a major distinction between the questions "Do you believe in God and/or Christ?" and "What are your  thoughts on organized religion ?" My answers would seem contradictory to most.

     
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    Posted: May. 30, 2011 - 11:22 AM ET #1287

    Quote Originally Posted by chilitokid:

    Why would God reward non believers?

    https://www.lotterypost.com/news/232109

    right..... when they talk this non-sense ask them to have their god regrow a limb on a human.....it will never happen...prayer does not work
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    Quote Originally Posted by chilitokid:

    Why would God reward non believers?

    https://www.lotterypost.com/news/232109

    right..... when they talk this non-sense ask them to have their god regrow a limb on a human.....it will never happen...prayer does not work
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    the oroginal title to this thread is tough questions about chrristianity.

    here's a guy who molested kids and used expensive gifts to the kids to entice them to do it and keep quiet about it.  after his church pays millions in a child molestation lawsuit, he comes back to "work" and is celebrated by tyhe same people who contributed money to allow his to molest kid and pay the expensive settlements.  how does this make sense?  

    if his congregation, which was in the 25,000's at some point, support this guy, wouldn't you expect they'd believe in anything?   certainly sant clause, the tooth fairy and the easter bunny wouldn't be much of a stretch.

    All tough questions will be ignored.

    There are literally 100 of them so far in this thread alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    the oroginal title to this thread is tough questions about chrristianity.

    here's a guy who molested kids and used expensive gifts to the kids to entice them to do it and keep quiet about it.  after his church pays millions in a child molestation lawsuit, he comes back to "work" and is celebrated by tyhe same people who contributed money to allow his to molest kid and pay the expensive settlements.  how does this make sense?  

    if his congregation, which was in the 25,000's at some point, support this guy, wouldn't you expect they'd believe in anything?   certainly sant clause, the tooth fairy and the easter bunny wouldn't be much of a stretch.

    All tough questions will be ignored.

    There are literally 100 of them so far in this thread alone.

     
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    you want us to tell scientist that they don't understand the laws of thermodynamics, when they are a scientist, unreal

     but lets ignore what chromosomes are or how even if they did fuse the number would still be off

    Christians are wacko but believing in a magic boom isn't

    and where did the spark of life come from?

    why isn't there some kind of living animal on Mars or the moon?

    if energy can not be created or destroyed ultimately where did the energy, the first energy come from?

    how did man know how to survive?

    can't cure a cold, but we know the history of the universe, but we can't prove it or even agree on it 

    please stop talking about gravity, we have LAWS of gravity and theories that support it

    a theory by its self is what you have when you use lobotomy to try to fix a mental illness

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    you want us to tell scientist that they don't understand the laws of thermodynamics, when they are a scientist, unreal

     but lets ignore what chromosomes are or how even if they did fuse the number would still be off

    Christians are wacko but believing in a magic boom isn't

    and where did the spark of life come from?

    why isn't there some kind of living animal on Mars or the moon?

    if energy can not be created or destroyed ultimately where did the energy, the first energy come from?

    how did man know how to survive?

    can't cure a cold, but we know the history of the universe, but we can't prove it or even agree on it 

    please stop talking about gravity, we have LAWS of gravity and theories that support it

    a theory by its self is what you have when you use lobotomy to try to fix a mental illness

     
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    The bible says not to question God or his doings............. he knows all.



    also we are not of this world and one day all will believe,one way or another.
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    also we are not of this world and one day all will believe,one way or another.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    the oroginal title to this thread is tough questions about chrristianity.

    here's a guy who molested kids and used expensive gifts to the kids to entice them to do it and keep quiet about it.  after his church pays millions in a child molestation lawsuit, he comes back to "work" and is celebrated by tyhe same people who contributed money to allow his to molest kid and pay the expensive settlements.  how does this make sense?  

    if his congregation, which was in the 25,000's at some point, support this guy, wouldn't you expect they'd believe in anything?   certainly sant clause, the tooth fairy and the easter bunny wouldn't be much of a stretch.

    There is not much detail into this pastor, they settled out of court and so we don't know what really went on because they didn't go through trial.

    But if he did all these sinister acts with these kids and if he continues to do them in the future, he is in big trouble with the Lord when judgment day comes.

    Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ said, "You can enter God's Kingdowm only through the narrow gate. The highway to hell is broad, and its gate is wide for the many who choose that way. But the gateway to life is very narrow and the road is difficult, and only a few ever find it. ---Matthew 7:13-14

    Praise the Lord Almighty!!

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    the oroginal title to this thread is tough questions about chrristianity.

    here's a guy who molested kids and used expensive gifts to the kids to entice them to do it and keep quiet about it.  after his church pays millions in a child molestation lawsuit, he comes back to "work" and is celebrated by tyhe same people who contributed money to allow his to molest kid and pay the expensive settlements.  how does this make sense?  

    if his congregation, which was in the 25,000's at some point, support this guy, wouldn't you expect they'd believe in anything?   certainly sant clause, the tooth fairy and the easter bunny wouldn't be much of a stretch.

    There is not much detail into this pastor, they settled out of court and so we don't know what really went on because they didn't go through trial.

    But if he did all these sinister acts with these kids and if he continues to do them in the future, he is in big trouble with the Lord when judgment day comes.

    Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ said, "You can enter God's Kingdowm only through the narrow gate. The highway to hell is broad, and its gate is wide for the many who choose that way. But the gateway to life is very narrow and the road is difficult, and only a few ever find it. ---Matthew 7:13-14

    Praise the Lord Almighty!!

     

     
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    Why Were You BORN?

    Is there PURPOSE for human life? Does life, after all, have real meaning? Here is the awesome truth!

    Part 13 of 23. What IS the Missing Dimension? (Note: If you want the entire 23 parts to this series go to website: thetruechurch.net)

    So what, then, is the missing dimension in all knowledge? It is revelation from God!

    For even though rejected by the first humans---even though rejected by mankind in general---God did bequeath to mankind his revelation of basic knowledge. We have it is writing! The Holy Bible is that revelation. It contains history, instruction, inspiration and prophecy.

    It does not contain all knowledge. It contains that basic, foundational knowledge otherewise inaccessible to man.

    What, then is wrong with knowledge production today? The most vital dimension is missing! Error generally comes from assuming a false premise, taken carelessly for granted without proof, and then building on that premise. And when the basic hypothesis or premise is false, the entire structure built upon it is defective!

    The tools of modern science are observation, experimentation, and reason. Are those tools wrong? Not at all! The error comes from rejection of revelation. For revelation is the true starting premise. When man substitues his own false hypotheses, the most vital dimension in the knowledge production is missing.

    God's Word---his instruction manual for mankind---is the foundation of all knowledge. It is not the sum-total of knowledge. It is the foundation---the true premise--the starting point---the concept that directs the approach to the acquisition of further knowledge.

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    Why Were You BORN?

    Is there PURPOSE for human life? Does life, after all, have real meaning? Here is the awesome truth!

    Part 13 of 23. What IS the Missing Dimension? (Note: If you want the entire 23 parts to this series go to website: thetruechurch.net)

    So what, then, is the missing dimension in all knowledge? It is revelation from God!

    For even though rejected by the first humans---even though rejected by mankind in general---God did bequeath to mankind his revelation of basic knowledge. We have it is writing! The Holy Bible is that revelation. It contains history, instruction, inspiration and prophecy.

    It does not contain all knowledge. It contains that basic, foundational knowledge otherewise inaccessible to man.

    What, then is wrong with knowledge production today? The most vital dimension is missing! Error generally comes from assuming a false premise, taken carelessly for granted without proof, and then building on that premise. And when the basic hypothesis or premise is false, the entire structure built upon it is defective!

    The tools of modern science are observation, experimentation, and reason. Are those tools wrong? Not at all! The error comes from rejection of revelation. For revelation is the true starting premise. When man substitues his own false hypotheses, the most vital dimension in the knowledge production is missing.

    God's Word---his instruction manual for mankind---is the foundation of all knowledge. It is not the sum-total of knowledge. It is the foundation---the true premise--the starting point---the concept that directs the approach to the acquisition of further knowledge.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by boberts427:

    you want us to tell scientist that they don't understand the laws of thermodynamics, when they are a scientist, unreal

    WTF are you saying?

     but lets ignore what chromosomes are or how even if they did fuse the number would still be off

    WTF are you saying?

    Christians are wacko but believing in a magic boom isn't

    and where did the spark of life come from?

    The boom wasn't magic. It happened. It's not up for debate. The issue is what happened before that, which we don't know. It's more logical to think some magic man said POOF - universe? You're insane. At least SJD and Rostos TRY to make arguments. You don't even make an effort.

    why isn't there some kind of living animal on Mars or the moon?

    1. Why don't you ask your god? 2. How the fuck is this relevant? 3. The answer is simple - the conditions are uninhabitable.

    if energy can not be created or destroyed ultimately where did the energy, the first energy come from?

    How dumb are you? We don't know where the initial singularity came from. Where did god come from? It's the same question; you're not immune from answering it. Difference is we'll admit we don't know. You make up a magic man.

    how did man know how to survive?

    Considering man evolved over millions, maybe billions of years, beings learned a few tricks along the way.

    can't cure a cold, but we know the history of the universe, but we can't prove it or even agree on it

    Right - how is this relevant?

    please stop talking about gravity, we have LAWS of gravity and theories that support it

    Right - how is this relevant?

    a theory by its self is what you have when you use lobotomy to try to fix a mental illness

    WTF does this mean?


    Before saying anything else in this thread, you are required to do 2 things.

    1. Read the other 51 pages. Yeah, it's a lot, but if you wanna make comments, stop repeating things Rostos and SJD said (who actually said it better than you).

    2. Use coherent speech. Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boberts427:

    you want us to tell scientist that they don't understand the laws of thermodynamics, when they are a scientist, unreal

    WTF are you saying?

     but lets ignore what chromosomes are or how even if they did fuse the number would still be off

    WTF are you saying?

    Christians are wacko but believing in a magic boom isn't

    and where did the spark of life come from?

    The boom wasn't magic. It happened. It's not up for debate. The issue is what happened before that, which we don't know. It's more logical to think some magic man said POOF - universe? You're insane. At least SJD and Rostos TRY to make arguments. You don't even make an effort.

    why isn't there some kind of living animal on Mars or the moon?

    1. Why don't you ask your god? 2. How the fuck is this relevant? 3. The answer is simple - the conditions are uninhabitable.

    if energy can not be created or destroyed ultimately where did the energy, the first energy come from?

    How dumb are you? We don't know where the initial singularity came from. Where did god come from? It's the same question; you're not immune from answering it. Difference is we'll admit we don't know. You make up a magic man.

    how did man know how to survive?

    Considering man evolved over millions, maybe billions of years, beings learned a few tricks along the way.

    can't cure a cold, but we know the history of the universe, but we can't prove it or even agree on it

    Right - how is this relevant?

    please stop talking about gravity, we have LAWS of gravity and theories that support it

    Right - how is this relevant?

    a theory by its self is what you have when you use lobotomy to try to fix a mental illness

    WTF does this mean?


    Before saying anything else in this thread, you are required to do 2 things.

    1. Read the other 51 pages. Yeah, it's a lot, but if you wanna make comments, stop repeating things Rostos and SJD said (who actually said it better than you).

    2. Use coherent speech. Thank you.
     
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    Correction: Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ said, "You can enter God's Kingdom only through the narrow gate. The highway to hell is broad, and its gate is wide for the many who choose that way. But the gateway to life is very narrow and the road is difficult, and only a few ever find it. ---Matthew 7:13-14

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    Correction: Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ said, "You can enter God's Kingdom only through the narrow gate. The highway to hell is broad, and its gate is wide for the many who choose that way. But the gateway to life is very narrow and the road is difficult, and only a few ever find it. ---Matthew 7:13-14

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by CRRECORDS:

    right..... when they talk this non-sense ask them to have their god regrow a limb on a human.....it will never happen...prayer does not work

    If He does that, then what's next?, are you going to pray to Him to add 4 inches of manhood to your little man size penile shaft?...lol

    A little humor in the morning is ok when it's a soft jab.

    O Lord, you are righteous, and your regulations are fair. Your laws are perfect and completely trustworthy. ---Psalms 119:137-138

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRRECORDS:

    right..... when they talk this non-sense ask them to have their god regrow a limb on a human.....it will never happen...prayer does not work

    If He does that, then what's next?, are you going to pray to Him to add 4 inches of manhood to your little man size penile shaft?...lol

    A little humor in the morning is ok when it's a soft jab.

    O Lord, you are righteous, and your regulations are fair. Your laws are perfect and completely trustworthy. ---Psalms 119:137-138

    Praise the Lord Almighty!!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Getty3:

    There should certainly be a major distinction between the questions "Do you believe in God and/or Christ?" and "What are your  thoughts on organized religion ?" My answers would seem contradictory to most.


    agreed.  jesus christ wouldn't be very happy about the way religion has evolved over the years.  it's probably the polar opposite of what he would have intended.  

    which is part of the reason for my question.  in most parts of a civilized society, a child molester is scorned and imprisoned.  yet this guy pays millions of dollars better spent on just about anything and comes back to his church to a standing ovation.  nothing warps all sense of logic and reason like organized religion can.  


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    There should certainly be a major distinction between the questions "Do you believe in God and/or Christ?" and "What are your  thoughts on organized religion ?" My answers would seem contradictory to most.


    agreed.  jesus christ wouldn't be very happy about the way religion has evolved over the years.  it's probably the polar opposite of what he would have intended.  

    which is part of the reason for my question.  in most parts of a civilized society, a child molester is scorned and imprisoned.  yet this guy pays millions of dollars better spent on just about anything and comes back to his church to a standing ovation.  nothing warps all sense of logic and reason like organized religion can.  


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    How is it bullying? You dotn even believe in God, how can you believe in hell?


    Really, I have to explain it to you You must be pretty slow... A bully gets you to do something by doing something bad to you if you don't do it. If you don't believe in god does something bad happen to you Where did I say I believed in hell
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    How is it bullying? You dotn even believe in God, how can you believe in hell?


    Really, I have to explain it to you You must be pretty slow... A bully gets you to do something by doing something bad to you if you don't do it. If you don't believe in god does something bad happen to you Where did I say I believed in hell
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoldEm00:

    The bible says not to question God or his doings............. he knows all.



    also we are not of this world and one day all will believe,one way or another.

    Again, why should we believe what the bible says 
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    The bible says not to question God or his doings............. he knows all.



    also we are not of this world and one day all will believe,one way or another.

    Again, why should we believe what the bible says 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    If He does that, then what's next?, are you going to pray to Him to add 4 inches of manhood to your little man size penile shaft?...lol

    A little humor in the morning is ok when it's a soft jab.

    O Lord, you are righteous, and your regulations are fair. Your laws are perfect and completely trustworthy. ---Psalms 119:137-138

    Praise the Lord Almighty!!


    For it to be a little humor, it has to be a little funny 


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    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    If He does that, then what's next?, are you going to pray to Him to add 4 inches of manhood to your little man size penile shaft?...lol

    A little humor in the morning is ok when it's a soft jab.

    O Lord, you are righteous, and your regulations are fair. Your laws are perfect and completely trustworthy. ---Psalms 119:137-138

    Praise the Lord Almighty!!


    For it to be a little humor, it has to be a little funny 


     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Part 13 of 23:

                What IS the Missing Dimension?

    So what, then, is the MISSING DIMENSION in ALL knowledge? It is revelation from GOD! For even though rejected by the first humans -- even though rejected by mankind in general -- God did bequeath to mankind His REVELATION OF BASIC KNOWLEDGE. We have it IN WRITING! The Holy BIBLE is that revelation. It contains history, instruction, revelation of basic knowledge, and prophecy. It does not contain ALL knowledge. It contains that basic, foundational knowledge otherwise inaccessible to man! What, then, is WRONG with knowledge production today? The most vital dimension is MISSING! I have said that error generally comes from assuming a false premise, taken carelessly for granted without proof, and building on that premise. And when the basic hypothesis or premise is false, the entire structure built upon it topples with it! I have said that the tools of Modern Science are observation, experimentation, and reason. Are those tools wrong? NOT AT ALL! The error comes from REJECTION of revelation. For revelation is the true starting premise. When man substitutes his own false hypothesis, the most vital dimension in the knowledge production is MISSING! God's Word -- His INSTRUCTION MANUAL for mankind -- is the FOUNDATION of ALL knowledge. It is NOT the sum-total of knowledge. It is the foundation -- the true premise -- the starting point -- the concept that directs the approach to the acquisition of further knowledge.
    PRAISE THE LORD JESUS FOR CUT AND PASTE!!
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    Part 13 of 23:

                What IS the Missing Dimension?

    So what, then, is the MISSING DIMENSION in ALL knowledge? It is revelation from GOD! For even though rejected by the first humans -- even though rejected by mankind in general -- God did bequeath to mankind His REVELATION OF BASIC KNOWLEDGE. We have it IN WRITING! The Holy BIBLE is that revelation. It contains history, instruction, revelation of basic knowledge, and prophecy. It does not contain ALL knowledge. It contains that basic, foundational knowledge otherwise inaccessible to man! What, then, is WRONG with knowledge production today? The most vital dimension is MISSING! I have said that error generally comes from assuming a false premise, taken carelessly for granted without proof, and building on that premise. And when the basic hypothesis or premise is false, the entire structure built upon it topples with it! I have said that the tools of Modern Science are observation, experimentation, and reason. Are those tools wrong? NOT AT ALL! The error comes from REJECTION of revelation. For revelation is the true starting premise. When man substitutes his own false hypothesis, the most vital dimension in the knowledge production is MISSING! God's Word -- His INSTRUCTION MANUAL for mankind -- is the FOUNDATION of ALL knowledge. It is NOT the sum-total of knowledge. It is the foundation -- the true premise -- the starting point -- the concept that directs the approach to the acquisition of further knowledge.
    PRAISE THE LORD JESUS FOR CUT AND PASTE!!
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    Already posted Larry.

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