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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2011 - 11:33 PM ET #301

    Quote Originally Posted by canadiantruth:


    Why can't I use spiderman comics as a source of truth? 


    mate, you can use whatever you want.

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    Why can't I use spiderman comics as a source of truth? 


    mate, you can use whatever you want.

     
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    George Carlin.  
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2011 - 3:55 AM ET #303

    The bible is a book just like Harry Potter. It is not a source of truth because it is unverified. The end. You can find accredited historical scholars to support whatever you believe if you look hard enough. There are people out there who legitimately believe the Earth is flat. All my arguments are based on logic and reason. Yours are based on speculation and hearsay. That is the fundamental difference.

    As for Rostos' ridiculous claims about saving people and altruism, evolution explains HOW SPECIES CHANGED OVER TIME, NOT WHY THEY DO WHAT THEY DO. Humans have the ability to think. Every person who comes across that scenario can choose to help the person or not and the reasons for whatever that person decides varies from person to person. There is no absolute answer. Science does not apply here.
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    The bible is a book just like Harry Potter. It is not a source of truth because it is unverified. The end. You can find accredited historical scholars to support whatever you believe if you look hard enough. There are people out there who legitimately believe the Earth is flat. All my arguments are based on logic and reason. Yours are based on speculation and hearsay. That is the fundamental difference.

    As for Rostos' ridiculous claims about saving people and altruism, evolution explains HOW SPECIES CHANGED OVER TIME, NOT WHY THEY DO WHAT THEY DO. Humans have the ability to think. Every person who comes across that scenario can choose to help the person or not and the reasons for whatever that person decides varies from person to person. There is no absolute answer. Science does not apply here.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2011 - 6:35 AM ET #304

    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

    The bible is a book just like Harry Potter. It is not a source of truth because it is unverified. The end. You can find accredited historical scholars to support whatever you believe if you look hard enough. There are people out there who legitimately believe the Earth is flat. All my arguments are based on logic and reason. Yours are based on speculation and hearsay. That is the fundamental difference.

    As for Rostos' ridiculous claims about saving people and altruism, evolution explains HOW SPECIES CHANGED OVER TIME, NOT WHY THEY DO WHAT THEY DO. Humans have the ability to think. Every person who comes across that scenario can choose to help the person or not and the reasons for whatever that person decides varies from person to person. There is no absolute answer. Science does not apply here.

    Do Harry Potter books have hundreds of prphecies that have been fulfilled?  Are there 40 authors (that dont know each other and never heard of each of other) of Harry Potter books all from different contents describing the same events?

    Do you want me to go on?

    No, your satanic religion of evolution says that it is all about passing your genes. Survivng to pass your genes. Then why did that soldier (RIP) jump on that grenade? That goes against everything evolution stands for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

    The bible is a book just like Harry Potter. It is not a source of truth because it is unverified. The end. You can find accredited historical scholars to support whatever you believe if you look hard enough. There are people out there who legitimately believe the Earth is flat. All my arguments are based on logic and reason. Yours are based on speculation and hearsay. That is the fundamental difference.

    As for Rostos' ridiculous claims about saving people and altruism, evolution explains HOW SPECIES CHANGED OVER TIME, NOT WHY THEY DO WHAT THEY DO. Humans have the ability to think. Every person who comes across that scenario can choose to help the person or not and the reasons for whatever that person decides varies from person to person. There is no absolute answer. Science does not apply here.

    Do Harry Potter books have hundreds of prphecies that have been fulfilled?  Are there 40 authors (that dont know each other and never heard of each of other) of Harry Potter books all from different contents describing the same events?

    Do you want me to go on?

    No, your satanic religion of evolution says that it is all about passing your genes. Survivng to pass your genes. Then why did that soldier (RIP) jump on that grenade? That goes against everything evolution stands for.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2011 - 6:36 AM ET #305

    yeah, people thought the earth was flat alright. The bible didnt say that.......
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    yeah, people thought the earth was flat alright. The bible didnt say that.......
     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2011 - 9:35 AM ET #306

    Always Chasing, 

    In doing some research on the Bible there is alot to be said for Salvation.  Man has free will (we can choose to believe or not).

    If this world followed the New Testament wouldn't you agree this world would be a better place to live?   

     

     

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    Always Chasing, 

    In doing some research on the Bible there is alot to be said for Salvation.  Man has free will (we can choose to believe or not).

    If this world followed the New Testament wouldn't you agree this world would be a better place to live?   

     

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2011 - 10:20 AM ET #307

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Do Harry Potter books have hundreds of prphecies that have been fulfilled?  Are there 40 authors (that dont know each other and never heard of each of other) of Harry Potter books all from different contents describing the same events?

    Do you want me to go on?

    No, your satanic religion of evolution says that it is all about passing your genes. Survivng to pass your genes. Then why did that soldier (RIP) jump on that grenade? That goes against everything evolution stands for.

    my prophecies

    1  the green bay packers will win another super bowl

    2 the houston astros will not win the 2011 world series

    3 rostos is a moron

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Do Harry Potter books have hundreds of prphecies that have been fulfilled?  Are there 40 authors (that dont know each other and never heard of each of other) of Harry Potter books all from different contents describing the same events?

    Do you want me to go on?

    No, your satanic religion of evolution says that it is all about passing your genes. Survivng to pass your genes. Then why did that soldier (RIP) jump on that grenade? That goes against everything evolution stands for.

    my prophecies

    1  the green bay packers will win another super bowl

    2 the houston astros will not win the 2011 world series

    3 rostos is a moron

     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2011 - 1:45 PM ET #308

    These "fulfilled prophecies" are bullshit and unsubstantiated. There is no reason for me to believe them. For all I know, the New Testament was altered to include these "prophecies" after the things they predicted had occurred.

    And stop comparing evolution to a religion and jumping on a grenade. Evolution doesn't mean "oh I'm gonna be a 100% selfish prick and never help out anyone else." There are plenty of people willing to give their lives for others. That doesn't mean millions of scientific data is wrong. I've never had this argument with anyone as incompetent as you, Rostos. You are the only one who makes up arguments and tries to link things totally unrelated. SCIENCE IS NOT HERE TO EXPLAIN WHY (at least not yet). Jumping on a grenade poses the question of "why" not "how."
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    These "fulfilled prophecies" are bullshit and unsubstantiated. There is no reason for me to believe them. For all I know, the New Testament was altered to include these "prophecies" after the things they predicted had occurred.

    And stop comparing evolution to a religion and jumping on a grenade. Evolution doesn't mean "oh I'm gonna be a 100% selfish prick and never help out anyone else." There are plenty of people willing to give their lives for others. That doesn't mean millions of scientific data is wrong. I've never had this argument with anyone as incompetent as you, Rostos. You are the only one who makes up arguments and tries to link things totally unrelated. SCIENCE IS NOT HERE TO EXPLAIN WHY (at least not yet). Jumping on a grenade poses the question of "why" not "how."
     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2011 - 3:26 PM ET #309

    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

    The bible is a book just like Harry Potter. It is not a source of truth because it is unverified. The end. You can find accredited historical scholars to support whatever you believe if you look hard enough. There are people out there who legitimately believe the Earth is flat. All my arguments are based on logic and reason. Yours are based on speculation and hearsay. That is the fundamental difference.

    As for Rostos' ridiculous claims about saving people and altruism, evolution explains HOW SPECIES CHANGED OVER TIME, NOT WHY THEY DO WHAT THEY DO. Humans have the ability to think. Every person who comes across that scenario can choose to help the person or not and the reasons for whatever that person decides varies from person to person. There is no absolute answer. Science does not apply here.

    The Holy Bible is a truthful historical document. It has been verified by those people living during their times as scripted in the Holy Bible.

    During the time of our Lord Savior Jesus Christ there were thousands upon thousands of witnesses to the miracles that he performed. These miracles were miracles only the Son of God could have done. Lastly, Jesus disciples were the witnesses to his resurrection from the dead, and he commanded them to spread the Gospel throughout the entire world.

    Today worldwide there are estimates of between 2 to 3 billion Christians in a world of approx. 6 billion people and so these estimates are between one-third to one-half of the entire population of the world. Christianity remains the most dominant of the world, and is still growing at an astonishing rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

    The bible is a book just like Harry Potter. It is not a source of truth because it is unverified. The end. You can find accredited historical scholars to support whatever you believe if you look hard enough. There are people out there who legitimately believe the Earth is flat. All my arguments are based on logic and reason. Yours are based on speculation and hearsay. That is the fundamental difference.

    As for Rostos' ridiculous claims about saving people and altruism, evolution explains HOW SPECIES CHANGED OVER TIME, NOT WHY THEY DO WHAT THEY DO. Humans have the ability to think. Every person who comes across that scenario can choose to help the person or not and the reasons for whatever that person decides varies from person to person. There is no absolute answer. Science does not apply here.

    The Holy Bible is a truthful historical document. It has been verified by those people living during their times as scripted in the Holy Bible.

    During the time of our Lord Savior Jesus Christ there were thousands upon thousands of witnesses to the miracles that he performed. These miracles were miracles only the Son of God could have done. Lastly, Jesus disciples were the witnesses to his resurrection from the dead, and he commanded them to spread the Gospel throughout the entire world.

    Today worldwide there are estimates of between 2 to 3 billion Christians in a world of approx. 6 billion people and so these estimates are between one-third to one-half of the entire population of the world. Christianity remains the most dominant of the world, and is still growing at an astonishing rate.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2011 - 4:09 PM ET #310

    So no kitty, the Holy Bible is not like a book like Harry Potter.

    Harry Potter is acknowledged by everyone that it is indeed a ficticious story made for entertaining today's young kids in movie theatres.

    On the otherhand 2 billion to 3 billion people worldwide acknowledge that the Holy Bible is the truth and nothing but the truth so help me God!!

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    So no kitty, the Holy Bible is not like a book like Harry Potter.

    Harry Potter is acknowledged by everyone that it is indeed a ficticious story made for entertaining today's young kids in movie theatres.

    On the otherhand 2 billion to 3 billion people worldwide acknowledge that the Holy Bible is the truth and nothing but the truth so help me God!!

     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2011 - 4:29 PM ET #311

    And there was once a time when 95% of the world's population believed lightning was a display of god's wrath...then we discovered the real reason why it occurs. Moral of the story: just because there are 3 billion morons instead of 1 moron, doesn't make them any less of morons.
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    And there was once a time when 95% of the world's population believed lightning was a display of god's wrath...then we discovered the real reason why it occurs. Moral of the story: just because there are 3 billion morons instead of 1 moron, doesn't make them any less of morons.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

    And there was once a time when 95% of the world's population believed lightning was a display of god's wrath...then we discovered the real reason why it occurs. Moral of the story: just because there are 3 billion morons instead of 1 moron, doesn't make them any less of morons.

    What are you talking about, even today scientists can't really explain lightning. Haven't you watched the Discovery Channel?...lol And is that 95% just a random number you decided to use?...lol

    When you call people names like morons is it because you are frustrated and say things out of anger?...lol

    Everything that happens in nature is because of physical laws laid down by our Creator Almighty God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

    And there was once a time when 95% of the world's population believed lightning was a display of god's wrath...then we discovered the real reason why it occurs. Moral of the story: just because there are 3 billion morons instead of 1 moron, doesn't make them any less of morons.

    What are you talking about, even today scientists can't really explain lightning. Haven't you watched the Discovery Channel?...lol And is that 95% just a random number you decided to use?...lol

    When you call people names like morons is it because you are frustrated and say things out of anger?...lol

    Everything that happens in nature is because of physical laws laid down by our Creator Almighty God.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2011 - 4:57 PM ET #313

    lets have the people that don't think God is real tell us about God

    and lets have the people who know nothing about science talk about it

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    lets have the people that don't think God is real tell us about God

    and lets have the people who know nothing about science talk about it

     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2011 - 5:03 PM ET #314

    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    The Holy Bible is a truthful historical document. It has been verified by those people living during their times as scripted in the Holy Bible.

    During the time of our Lord Savior Jesus Christ there were thousands upon thousands of witnesses to the miracles that he performed. These miracles were miracles only the Son of God could have done. Lastly, Jesus disciples were the witnesses to his resurrection from the dead, and he commanded them to spread the Gospel throughout the entire world.

    Today worldwide there are estimates of between 2 to 3 billion Christians in a world of approx. 6 billion people and so these estimates are between one-third to one-half of the entire population of the world. Christianity remains the most dominant of the world, and is still growing at an astonishing rate.


    Still waiting for those other sources

    You would think if their were thousands of witnesses, there would be other people (outside the bible) writing about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    The Holy Bible is a truthful historical document. It has been verified by those people living during their times as scripted in the Holy Bible.

    During the time of our Lord Savior Jesus Christ there were thousands upon thousands of witnesses to the miracles that he performed. These miracles were miracles only the Son of God could have done. Lastly, Jesus disciples were the witnesses to his resurrection from the dead, and he commanded them to spread the Gospel throughout the entire world.

    Today worldwide there are estimates of between 2 to 3 billion Christians in a world of approx. 6 billion people and so these estimates are between one-third to one-half of the entire population of the world. Christianity remains the most dominant of the world, and is still growing at an astonishing rate.


    Still waiting for those other sources

    You would think if their were thousands of witnesses, there would be other people (outside the bible) writing about it

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    The Holy Bible is a truthful historical document. It has been verified by those people living during their times as scripted in the Holy Bible.

    SJD's reasoning

    During the time of our Lord Savior Jesus Christ there were thousands upon thousands of witnesses to the miracles that he performed. These miracles were miracles only the Son of God could have done. Lastly, Jesus disciples were the witnesses to his resurrection from the dead, and he commanded them to spread the Gospel throughout the entire world.

    Today worldwide there are estimates of between 2 to 3 billion Christians in a world of approx. 6 billion people and so these estimates are between one-third to one-half of the entire population of the world. Christianity remains the most dominant of the world, and is still growing at an astonishing rate.

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    The Holy Bible is a truthful historical document. It has been verified by those people living during their times as scripted in the Holy Bible.

    SJD's reasoning

    During the time of our Lord Savior Jesus Christ there were thousands upon thousands of witnesses to the miracles that he performed. These miracles were miracles only the Son of God could have done. Lastly, Jesus disciples were the witnesses to his resurrection from the dead, and he commanded them to spread the Gospel throughout the entire world.

    Today worldwide there are estimates of between 2 to 3 billion Christians in a world of approx. 6 billion people and so these estimates are between one-third to one-half of the entire population of the world. Christianity remains the most dominant of the world, and is still growing at an astonishing rate.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2011 - 5:15 PM ET #316

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Do Harry Potter books have hundreds of prphecies that have been fulfilled?  Are there 40 authors (that dont know each other and never heard of each of other) of Harry Potter books all from different contents describing the same events?

    Do you want me to go on?

    No, your satanic religion of evolution says that it is all about passing your genes. Survivng to pass your genes. Then why did that soldier (RIP) jump on that grenade? That goes against everything evolution stands for.



    Prophecies are not convincing 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Do Harry Potter books have hundreds of prphecies that have been fulfilled?  Are there 40 authors (that dont know each other and never heard of each of other) of Harry Potter books all from different contents describing the same events?

    Do you want me to go on?

    No, your satanic religion of evolution says that it is all about passing your genes. Survivng to pass your genes. Then why did that soldier (RIP) jump on that grenade? That goes against everything evolution stands for.



    Prophecies are not convincing 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2011 - 7:22 PM ET #317

    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

    These "fulfilled prophecies" are bullshit and unsubstantiated. There is no reason for me to believe them. For all I know, the New Testament was altered to include these "prophecies" after the things they predicted had occurred.

    And stop comparing evolution to a religion and jumping on a grenade. Evolution doesn't mean "oh I'm gonna be a 100% selfish prick and never help out anyone else." There are plenty of people willing to give their lives for others. That doesn't mean millions of scientific data is wrong. I've never had this argument with anyone as incompetent as you, Rostos. You are the only one who makes up arguments and tries to link things totally unrelated. SCIENCE IS NOT HERE TO EXPLAIN WHY (at least not yet). Jumping on a grenade poses the question of "why" not "how."

    How do you KNOW it is a LIE? HOW? I am waiting to hear.....Do you KNOW for a FACT? Were there people there to tell you it wasnt?

    Secondly, evolution tells us that life is allabout passing on your henes, giving yourself the best chance to. Yet we see people almost every day give up there life for someone else. Furthermore, we DONT HAVE EVIDENCE in the fossil record that shows the complete transformation from species to another but that is not bullshit.

    At the end of the day, non believers just want to be there own God, they dont want the thought that they are going to have to answer to a higher being. The biggest issue with is PRIDE...and you seem to have tonnes of it,

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    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

    These "fulfilled prophecies" are bullshit and unsubstantiated. There is no reason for me to believe them. For all I know, the New Testament was altered to include these "prophecies" after the things they predicted had occurred.

    And stop comparing evolution to a religion and jumping on a grenade. Evolution doesn't mean "oh I'm gonna be a 100% selfish prick and never help out anyone else." There are plenty of people willing to give their lives for others. That doesn't mean millions of scientific data is wrong. I've never had this argument with anyone as incompetent as you, Rostos. You are the only one who makes up arguments and tries to link things totally unrelated. SCIENCE IS NOT HERE TO EXPLAIN WHY (at least not yet). Jumping on a grenade poses the question of "why" not "how."

    How do you KNOW it is a LIE? HOW? I am waiting to hear.....Do you KNOW for a FACT? Were there people there to tell you it wasnt?

    Secondly, evolution tells us that life is allabout passing on your henes, giving yourself the best chance to. Yet we see people almost every day give up there life for someone else. Furthermore, we DONT HAVE EVIDENCE in the fossil record that shows the complete transformation from species to another but that is not bullshit.

    At the end of the day, non believers just want to be there own God, they dont want the thought that they are going to have to answer to a higher being. The biggest issue with is PRIDE...and you seem to have tonnes of it,

     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2011 - 7:29 PM ET #318

    Quote Originally Posted by CRRECORDS:

    my prophecies

    1  the green bay packers will win another super bowl

    2 the houston astros will not win the 2011 world series

    3 rostos is a moron

    Hey, can you put $1mill dollars into my account? Dont steal it from anyome, but rather just make it pop out of nothing...After all, you do believe that it can happen, so just do this for me and i will be happy.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRRECORDS:

    my prophecies

    1  the green bay packers will win another super bowl

    2 the houston astros will not win the 2011 world series

    3 rostos is a moron

    Hey, can you put $1mill dollars into my account? Dont steal it from anyome, but rather just make it pop out of nothing...After all, you do believe that it can happen, so just do this for me and i will be happy.........

     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2011 - 10:39 PM ET #319

    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    What are you talking about, even today scientists can't really explain lightning. Haven't you watched the Discovery Channel?

     

    Are you serious?

    People like you are why bible thumpers are called idiots. Not because they believe in god but because they say the dumbest shit ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    What are you talking about, even today scientists can't really explain lightning. Haven't you watched the Discovery Channel?

     

    Are you serious?

    People like you are why bible thumpers are called idiots. Not because they believe in god but because they say the dumbest shit ever.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2011 - 10:41 PM ET #320

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    U fool.

    So the first thing i think about is if i see a lady in a house fire, "i am gonna go in there, risk my life cause i might get laid".

    What about that American Soldier (RIP) 3-4 years ago that jumped on the grenade to absorb the explsion to save his mates. Was he thinking about how that act will save allow him to pass his genes on? How does EVOLUTION EXPLAIN THAT?

     

    You call me a fool but you don't understand the difference between instinct and conscience thought. You're a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    U fool.

    So the first thing i think about is if i see a lady in a house fire, "i am gonna go in there, risk my life cause i might get laid".

    What about that American Soldier (RIP) 3-4 years ago that jumped on the grenade to absorb the explsion to save his mates. Was he thinking about how that act will save allow him to pass his genes on? How does EVOLUTION EXPLAIN THAT?

     

    You call me a fool but you don't understand the difference between instinct and conscience thought. You're a joke.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 19, 2011 - 1:08 AM ET #321

    my brothers in christ

    do not cast your pearls in the swine

    that means::::::

    do not force the word to people who do not want it

     

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    my brothers in christ

    do not cast your pearls in the swine

    that means::::::

    do not force the word to people who do not want it

     

     
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    I'm sorry guys. I can't do this anymore. There's no point. This will be my final post. There have been so many stupid comments here, but nothing tops the claim that scientists don't know how lightning works...yes they do...they completely understand it and can probably recreate it if they wanted to (after all, they can almost recreate a supernova, i think they can manage lightning). I'm also sick of being asked to prove that which doesn't need to be proved. I am not making a claim that something magical exists. Therefore, I don't have to prove anything. The burden of proof always rests with the side making the claim, especially when that claim defies the laws of physics. If you want me to believe the laws of physics can be broken by anyone or anything, you have to prove it, I don't have to prove that the laws of physics can't be broken. That's how experiments work. Evolution is not about passing on your genes. It is about adapting to your environment. It is a process. It is a how, not a why...stop conflating the two. Here is a fact: the bible was written by over 40 authors over the course of 1500 years. Try playing a game of "telephone" with 39 friends and see what the phrase ends up being when it gets back to you. That's all you need to know to debunk the bible as a valid source (not to mention the fallacies, contradictions, and parts that literally have a 0% chance of being true-but we disregard those as "metaphors" because they don't conform to what the drone wants the bible to be). In conclusion, even though we cannot disprove the existence of god, we already know with 100% certainty it isn't absolutely necessary to invoke a creator to explain the universe so if you do so, you are doing it by choice, because you believe, not because there has to be one. So, is it still theoretically possible there is a god? Yes. But those odds are undoubtedly below 50% and if I were to place a line on it, I'd say No God -100000000. Yes God +50000000. It's been real folks. I promise I will not be responding to any future questions. Good luck to those that take over for me. I am done.
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    I'm sorry guys. I can't do this anymore. There's no point. This will be my final post. There have been so many stupid comments here, but nothing tops the claim that scientists don't know how lightning works...yes they do...they completely understand it and can probably recreate it if they wanted to (after all, they can almost recreate a supernova, i think they can manage lightning). I'm also sick of being asked to prove that which doesn't need to be proved. I am not making a claim that something magical exists. Therefore, I don't have to prove anything. The burden of proof always rests with the side making the claim, especially when that claim defies the laws of physics. If you want me to believe the laws of physics can be broken by anyone or anything, you have to prove it, I don't have to prove that the laws of physics can't be broken. That's how experiments work. Evolution is not about passing on your genes. It is about adapting to your environment. It is a process. It is a how, not a why...stop conflating the two. Here is a fact: the bible was written by over 40 authors over the course of 1500 years. Try playing a game of "telephone" with 39 friends and see what the phrase ends up being when it gets back to you. That's all you need to know to debunk the bible as a valid source (not to mention the fallacies, contradictions, and parts that literally have a 0% chance of being true-but we disregard those as "metaphors" because they don't conform to what the drone wants the bible to be). In conclusion, even though we cannot disprove the existence of god, we already know with 100% certainty it isn't absolutely necessary to invoke a creator to explain the universe so if you do so, you are doing it by choice, because you believe, not because there has to be one. So, is it still theoretically possible there is a god? Yes. But those odds are undoubtedly below 50% and if I were to place a line on it, I'd say No God -100000000. Yes God +50000000. It's been real folks. I promise I will not be responding to any future questions. Good luck to those that take over for me. I am done.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 19, 2011 - 1:57 AM ET #323

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch1976:

     

    Are you serious?

    Yes I'm serious dutch boy! Just recently I was watching a program on either the Discovery Channel or the Weather Channel, can't remember exactly which it was but it was about lightning. I clearly heard them say that scientists still don't fully understand the causes of lightning. These guys had all these high speed cameras aimed at the sky hoping for lightning strikes so they could evaluate what they see.

    So dutch boy you better start watching some discovery channel or weather channel more often to learn something....stupid!...lol

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    Are you serious?

    Yes I'm serious dutch boy! Just recently I was watching a program on either the Discovery Channel or the Weather Channel, can't remember exactly which it was but it was about lightning. I clearly heard them say that scientists still don't fully understand the causes of lightning. These guys had all these high speed cameras aimed at the sky hoping for lightning strikes so they could evaluate what they see.

    So dutch boy you better start watching some discovery channel or weather channel more often to learn something....stupid!...lol

     
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    Posted: Aug. 19, 2011 - 2:12 AM ET #324

    So long kitty! Maybe someday on your own you will begin to believe in God. Perhaps through some experience you might encounter will get you to change your views on the existence of God.

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    So long kitty! Maybe someday on your own you will begin to believe in God. Perhaps through some experience you might encounter will get you to change your views on the existence of God.

     
     
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    we know VERY well how lightning works

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