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    Im bored. No sports for me to bet on. How about a religion thread?

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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2011 - 1:35 PM ET #226

    Quote Originally Posted by misfits:

    rostos is the scalabrine of religion. he says the same thing over and over in every thread. something cant come from nothing, but yet totally believes that god was just always there, forever, even though no one created him, but thats ok because god is supernatural and he created physical universe just for us like a giant ant farm. he was one of those kids brainwashed in sunday school to think that everything in the bible is fact and the earth is 8000 years old, there is no such thing as dinosaurs, and god is waiting in heaven which just happens to be right outside our solar system, just out of reach. that way he can keep an eye on us like santa claus. riddle me this, according to the bible, we are here as a test to see if we are worthy of joining god in heaven, and god is supposedly omnipotent and knows everything past, present, future including what each one of us will do and what choices we will make. if that is true then why go through this bother of creating this universe for us and giving us physical life if he already knows which of us will serve him and go to heaven and which of us wont? a) either he is a sick bastard using us to amuse him, or b) he does not exist. 

    man created god, not the other way around



    Dude I love the best part of your rant about how the we are retards to think the earth is only 6011 Not "8011" years old. Well geez I happen to remember quite distinctly watching the landing gear with Armstrong on the moon. Remember when those legs that were supposed to go through millions of years of dust smashed the moon? Oh and how much dust was traced? Wasn't around 6000 years worth?

    haha your a fool! Sure question about God and such but you will never have any hard fact that this world is billions of years old pal. My smartest geography professor always told us and to this day I hold it true. "Now I don't believe in this whole God and Christ and heavens but I can tell you with 100% geographical knowledge, that this world was created. The weather patterns are to perfectly designed to just have happened."

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    rostos is the scalabrine of religion. he says the same thing over and over in every thread. something cant come from nothing, but yet totally believes that god was just always there, forever, even though no one created him, but thats ok because god is supernatural and he created physical universe just for us like a giant ant farm. he was one of those kids brainwashed in sunday school to think that everything in the bible is fact and the earth is 8000 years old, there is no such thing as dinosaurs, and god is waiting in heaven which just happens to be right outside our solar system, just out of reach. that way he can keep an eye on us like santa claus. riddle me this, according to the bible, we are here as a test to see if we are worthy of joining god in heaven, and god is supposedly omnipotent and knows everything past, present, future including what each one of us will do and what choices we will make. if that is true then why go through this bother of creating this universe for us and giving us physical life if he already knows which of us will serve him and go to heaven and which of us wont? a) either he is a sick bastard using us to amuse him, or b) he does not exist. 

    man created god, not the other way around



    Dude I love the best part of your rant about how the we are retards to think the earth is only 6011 Not "8011" years old. Well geez I happen to remember quite distinctly watching the landing gear with Armstrong on the moon. Remember when those legs that were supposed to go through millions of years of dust smashed the moon? Oh and how much dust was traced? Wasn't around 6000 years worth?

    haha your a fool! Sure question about God and such but you will never have any hard fact that this world is billions of years old pal. My smartest geography professor always told us and to this day I hold it true. "Now I don't believe in this whole God and Christ and heavens but I can tell you with 100% geographical knowledge, that this world was created. The weather patterns are to perfectly designed to just have happened."

     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2011 - 2:51 PM ET #227

    I still want to know about this graduate level religion study and reading the Bible 5 times.
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2011 - 3:14 PM ET #228

    Dont' you have some soccer to bet on or dig up some dinosaur bones?

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    Quote Originally Posted by minion0812:



    Dude I love the best part of your rant about how the we are retards to think the earth is only 6011 Not "8011" years old. Well geez I happen to remember quite distinctly watching the landing gear with Armstrong on the moon. Remember when those legs that were supposed to go through millions of years of dust smashed the moon? Oh and how much dust was traced? Wasn't around 6000 years worth?

    haha your a fool! Sure question about God and such but you will never have any hard fact that this world is billions of years old pal. My smartest geography professor always told us and to this day I hold it true. "Now I don't believe in this whole God and Christ and heavens but I can tell you with 100% geographical knowledge, that this world was created. The weather patterns are to perfectly designed to just have happened."



    Ancient rocks exceeding 3.5 billion years in age are found on all of Earth's continents.

    But you guys probably don't believe in radioactive isotope dating, since that involves science.
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    Dude I love the best part of your rant about how the we are retards to think the earth is only 6011 Not "8011" years old. Well geez I happen to remember quite distinctly watching the landing gear with Armstrong on the moon. Remember when those legs that were supposed to go through millions of years of dust smashed the moon? Oh and how much dust was traced? Wasn't around 6000 years worth?

    haha your a fool! Sure question about God and such but you will never have any hard fact that this world is billions of years old pal. My smartest geography professor always told us and to this day I hold it true. "Now I don't believe in this whole God and Christ and heavens but I can tell you with 100% geographical knowledge, that this world was created. The weather patterns are to perfectly designed to just have happened."



    Ancient rocks exceeding 3.5 billion years in age are found on all of Earth's continents.

    But you guys probably don't believe in radioactive isotope dating, since that involves science.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2011 - 3:29 PM ET #230

    Pater Shannons last sermon


    richard burton got caught with his pants down
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    richard burton got caught with his pants down
     
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    Sorry RedG,

    Not buying the whole rock's are this old or that old. Still not hard facts. I know what I saw and I still find it funny how it's swiped under the rug. The scientists had "hard fact" then too and if the world were millions of years old along with the moon the dust would have been over 10ft which is what they planned for.

    You can't really tell me you actually think it has been around for these billions of years without have a major metor, tsunami or fall into a black hole? And don't give me your dinosaur metor lol. People forget the Bible had the "large lizards." I'm talking a metor that must have crushed the earth over "billions" of years.
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    Sorry RedG,

    Not buying the whole rock's are this old or that old. Still not hard facts. I know what I saw and I still find it funny how it's swiped under the rug. The scientists had "hard fact" then too and if the world were millions of years old along with the moon the dust would have been over 10ft which is what they planned for.

    You can't really tell me you actually think it has been around for these billions of years without have a major metor, tsunami or fall into a black hole? And don't give me your dinosaur metor lol. People forget the Bible had the "large lizards." I'm talking a metor that must have crushed the earth over "billions" of years.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2011 - 3:41 PM ET #232

    Now perhaps if the whole video on the moon was made up I could agree. Which I'm not saying it isn't lol
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2011 - 3:44 PM ET #233

    Why is it that God's people as well have never been killed of this earth? I find that very interesting as well. Now, not even saying that they are in good graces with there denial of christ but it is quite starnge that all the times they have tried (Egyptians, Nazi's, Romans, Persians, etc.) tried they somehow survived despite all the odds against them. Just a thought. 
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    Why is it that God's people as well have never been killed of this earth? I find that very interesting as well. Now, not even saying that they are in good graces with there denial of christ but it is quite starnge that all the times they have tried (Egyptians, Nazi's, Romans, Persians, etc.) tried they somehow survived despite all the odds against them. Just a thought. 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2011 - 3:46 PM ET #234

    Nice triple post guy
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2011 - 4:02 PM ET #235

    man fuck science  
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2011 - 4:15 PM ET #236

    I am not going to have some MF moron tell me what to believe in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by golfkat:

    I am not going to have some MF moron tell me what to believe in.


    No doubt bro and please find your own way. No one is getting in your face about anything from my side and I promise an actual good born again christian is not going to all up in your face either. Too many christian fools that give the whole thing a bad image and rep. Check that, not too many, millions too many!
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    I am not going to have some MF moron tell me what to believe in.


    No doubt bro and please find your own way. No one is getting in your face about anything from my side and I promise an actual good born again christian is not going to all up in your face either. Too many christian fools that give the whole thing a bad image and rep. Check that, not too many, millions too many!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by minion0812:

     

    My smartest geography professor always told us and to this day I hold it true. "Now I don't believe in this whole God and Christ and heavens but I can tell you with 100% geographical knowledge, that this world was created. The weather patterns are to perfectly designed to just have happened."

    Well, I think we now have closure.

    This guy, after calling other people morons and stating that there is no evidence that the world is over 6k years old - lets us in on the mindblowing evidence of the personal anecdote of his smartest geography teacher.

    That about sums it up.

     

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    My smartest geography professor always told us and to this day I hold it true. "Now I don't believe in this whole God and Christ and heavens but I can tell you with 100% geographical knowledge, that this world was created. The weather patterns are to perfectly designed to just have happened."

    Well, I think we now have closure.

    This guy, after calling other people morons and stating that there is no evidence that the world is over 6k years old - lets us in on the mindblowing evidence of the personal anecdote of his smartest geography teacher.

    That about sums it up.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmag:

    Dont' you have some soccer to bet on or dig up some dinosaur bones?

    Signed:

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    Slow soccer week.

    Next Tues though - champs league returns.  I never want it to end.

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    Dont' you have some soccer to bet on or dig up some dinosaur bones?

    Signed:

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    Slow soccer week.

    Next Tues though - champs league returns.  I never want it to end.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2011 - 5:37 PM ET #240

    Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

    I still want to know about this graduate level religion study and reading the Bible 5 times.

    Still waiting.

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    I still want to know about this graduate level religion study and reading the Bible 5 times.

    Still waiting.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Slow soccer week.

    Next Tues though - champs league returns.  I never want it to end.

     

    i didn't think you'd let that geography teacher comment go.  it is nice to have closure though.

    no Euro Qualifiers for you??

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    Slow soccer week.

    Next Tues though - champs league returns.  I never want it to end.

     

    i didn't think you'd let that geography teacher comment go.  it is nice to have closure though.

    no Euro Qualifiers for you??

     
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    oh costos rostos, don't be so sensitive, but seriously, i have told you many times that your arguments are equivalent to what comes out of the mouth of a 5th grader. When the educated start debating- look how much more interesting this thread gets.  Do what I do, just sit back and enjoy the read, in the long run, you will be helping your cause.  There is not ONE person that is going to read your nonsense and be like, "Yep- that wise man Costos Rostos has shown me the way," NOT ONE  

    Thats the ONLY thing you can say isnt it. NOT ONCE have you debunked any of my arguments. All what you do is call me names and bash me without ONCE attempting to debunk what i say.

    Normally when one person starts playing the man as opposed to the issue, it is a clear sign that you HAVE NO RESPONSE.

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    oh costos rostos, don't be so sensitive, but seriously, i have told you many times that your arguments are equivalent to what comes out of the mouth of a 5th grader. When the educated start debating- look how much more interesting this thread gets.  Do what I do, just sit back and enjoy the read, in the long run, you will be helping your cause.  There is not ONE person that is going to read your nonsense and be like, "Yep- that wise man Costos Rostos has shown me the way," NOT ONE  

    Thats the ONLY thing you can say isnt it. NOT ONCE have you debunked any of my arguments. All what you do is call me names and bash me without ONCE attempting to debunk what i say.

    Normally when one person starts playing the man as opposed to the issue, it is a clear sign that you HAVE NO RESPONSE.

     
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    late to the thread, didnt read anything besides the first post.

    i dont think any 'sect' besides 7th day adventist believes in everything the bible says literally, and their founder was just as 'crazy' as the LDS founder.

    my personal belief is that some dude started telling some regaling strories, bc lets face it, life probably sucked 2k years ago.  his stories spread, which led him to tell even more outlandish stories, one thing led to another, and since ppl were probably a lot dumber back then, they were sucked in.

    doesnt anyone else find it a tad funny the science has continually proven the bible/church wrong, and i dont recall any event where the bible/church proved science wrong.

    and this notion that the earth is only 6k years old is just laughable.  there was some moron on here who copy and pasted about 40 reasons why the earth was and they were at about the intellectual level of a 5 year old.  stuff like niagara falls is eroding at X" per year, extrapolate that out and you have 6000k years.  mindless to the fact that niagara falls wasnt formed the day the earth was, or that the erosion rate may not be constant.  or completely ignoring contrary evidence like the grand canyon and its erosion rate.

    i dont fault someone for being religious, i think overall we are better off as a society for having christian values.  i personally dont need to be fear mongered into thinking theres a hell to live a moral life.  and ive always been against the churches stand when it comes to medical advances, and especially now that i could benefit from having stem cell 'implants', it really pisses me off. 

    and the notion that being gay is a choice is obviously ignorant.  the vast majority of gay ppl i know (i know lots) have all said they knew they were gay or different since they were a small kid.  and i dont think any straight man would really say to themselves, you know what i could go for right about now, how bout a nice big penis in my mouth.
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    late to the thread, didnt read anything besides the first post.

    i dont think any 'sect' besides 7th day adventist believes in everything the bible says literally, and their founder was just as 'crazy' as the LDS founder.

    my personal belief is that some dude started telling some regaling strories, bc lets face it, life probably sucked 2k years ago.  his stories spread, which led him to tell even more outlandish stories, one thing led to another, and since ppl were probably a lot dumber back then, they were sucked in.

    doesnt anyone else find it a tad funny the science has continually proven the bible/church wrong, and i dont recall any event where the bible/church proved science wrong.

    and this notion that the earth is only 6k years old is just laughable.  there was some moron on here who copy and pasted about 40 reasons why the earth was and they were at about the intellectual level of a 5 year old.  stuff like niagara falls is eroding at X" per year, extrapolate that out and you have 6000k years.  mindless to the fact that niagara falls wasnt formed the day the earth was, or that the erosion rate may not be constant.  or completely ignoring contrary evidence like the grand canyon and its erosion rate.

    i dont fault someone for being religious, i think overall we are better off as a society for having christian values.  i personally dont need to be fear mongered into thinking theres a hell to live a moral life.  and ive always been against the churches stand when it comes to medical advances, and especially now that i could benefit from having stem cell 'implants', it really pisses me off. 

    and the notion that being gay is a choice is obviously ignorant.  the vast majority of gay ppl i know (i know lots) have all said they knew they were gay or different since they were a small kid.  and i dont think any straight man would really say to themselves, you know what i could go for right about now, how bout a nice big penis in my mouth.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2011 - 9:14 PM ET #244

    why do you u even give this fool vanzack the time of day. the bible says don't argue with a fool.

    thats all he does is bash christians. I'll pray for u vanzack, lord knows u need it.
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    why do you u even give this fool vanzack the time of day. the bible says don't argue with a fool.

    thats all he does is bash christians. I'll pray for u vanzack, lord knows u need it.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by neocon:

    why do you u even give this fool vanzack the time of day. the bible says don't argue with a fool.

    thats all he does is bash christians. I'll pray for u vanzack, lord knows u need it.




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    why do you u even give this fool vanzack the time of day. the bible says don't argue with a fool.

    thats all he does is bash christians. I'll pray for u vanzack, lord knows u need it.




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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2011 - 10:26 PM ET #246

    Any other Christians want to swear and name call and show us some other Christlike virtues in this thread?
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    i'm just shocked this post went this far----and now i'm continuing it farther----pottsville maroons 1925 nfl champs----f the owners
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShemusOToole:

    Any other Christians want to swear and name call and show us some other Christlike virtues in this thread?

    The fact that they are on covers, or own a computer in the first place - would make Jesus ill.

    I hate to break it to the Christians out there, but if they actually read the Bible, particularly what Jesus said and how he lived - he would be appalled by todays capitalist kill or be killed society.  A luxury item like a computer would cause him to tell you that you should sell it and get back to doing something important, like helping the poor and disadvantaged.

    The fact that "christians" have enough time to waste on a gambling website is so hypocritical I dont even know where to start.  Jesus would condemn this monumental waste of time, along with all of your material possessions and lack of helping your fellow man.

    The real problem with christianity is that christ has been taken out of it by the church.  It should just be called "ianity", there is no christ in todays christians.  Jesus would be sick about you with your car, your house, your food - while half of the world is homeless and hungry - and you do nothing about it except pray to him that you will be able to buy a nicer car or have better food.  What do you think Jesus would say about that?   Christians in this country have a crisis when they cant pay their mortgage, or cant buy organic produce - what do you think a benevolent god thinks of your incredible selfishness when you pray for YOUR life to get better?  Dont you think Jesus would tell you to sell all of your stuff and start hitting the streets to make a difference?

    So I dont take these fake christians too seriously.  They have lost the message.  In fact, I find that non-believers are closer to Jesus and the way he lived than most christians - they have been hijacked to believe that Jesus is in favor of materialism and survival of the fittest.  Jesus was not a survival of the fittest type of guy.  Jesus was a survival of the masses type of guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShemusOToole:

    Any other Christians want to swear and name call and show us some other Christlike virtues in this thread?

    The fact that they are on covers, or own a computer in the first place - would make Jesus ill.

    I hate to break it to the Christians out there, but if they actually read the Bible, particularly what Jesus said and how he lived - he would be appalled by todays capitalist kill or be killed society.  A luxury item like a computer would cause him to tell you that you should sell it and get back to doing something important, like helping the poor and disadvantaged.

    The fact that "christians" have enough time to waste on a gambling website is so hypocritical I dont even know where to start.  Jesus would condemn this monumental waste of time, along with all of your material possessions and lack of helping your fellow man.

    The real problem with christianity is that christ has been taken out of it by the church.  It should just be called "ianity", there is no christ in todays christians.  Jesus would be sick about you with your car, your house, your food - while half of the world is homeless and hungry - and you do nothing about it except pray to him that you will be able to buy a nicer car or have better food.  What do you think Jesus would say about that?   Christians in this country have a crisis when they cant pay their mortgage, or cant buy organic produce - what do you think a benevolent god thinks of your incredible selfishness when you pray for YOUR life to get better?  Dont you think Jesus would tell you to sell all of your stuff and start hitting the streets to make a difference?

    So I dont take these fake christians too seriously.  They have lost the message.  In fact, I find that non-believers are closer to Jesus and the way he lived than most christians - they have been hijacked to believe that Jesus is in favor of materialism and survival of the fittest.  Jesus was not a survival of the fittest type of guy.  Jesus was a survival of the masses type of guy.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    The fact that they are on covers, or own a computer in the first place - would make Jesus ill.

    I hate to break it to the Christians out there, but if they actually read the Bible, particularly what Jesus said and how he lived - he would be appalled by todays capitalist kill or be killed society.  A luxury item like a computer would cause him to tell you that you should sell it and get back to doing something important, like helping the poor and disadvantaged.

    The fact that "christians" have enough time to waste on a gambling website is so hypocritical I dont even know where to start.  Jesus would condemn this monumental waste of time, along with all of your material possessions and lack of helping your fellow man.

    The real problem with christianity is that christ has been taken out of it by the church.  It should just be called "ianity", there is no christ in todays christians.  Jesus would be sick about you with your car, your house, your food - while half of the world is homeless and hungry - and you do nothing about it except pray to him that you will be able to buy a nicer car or have better food.  What do you think Jesus would say about that?   Christians in this country have a crisis when they cant pay their mortgage, or cant buy organic produce - what do you think a benevolent god thinks of your incredible selfishness when you pray for YOUR life to get better?  Dont you think Jesus would tell you to sell all of your stuff and start hitting the streets to make a difference?

    So I dont take these fake christians too seriously.  They have lost the message.  In fact, I find that non-believers are closer to Jesus and the way he lived than most christians - they have been hijacked to believe that Jesus is in favor of materialism and survival of the fittest.  Jesus was not a survival of the fittest type of guy.  Jesus was a survival of the masses type of guy.

    Let the 1st person who hasnt sinned throw the stone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    The fact that they are on covers, or own a computer in the first place - would make Jesus ill.

    I hate to break it to the Christians out there, but if they actually read the Bible, particularly what Jesus said and how he lived - he would be appalled by todays capitalist kill or be killed society.  A luxury item like a computer would cause him to tell you that you should sell it and get back to doing something important, like helping the poor and disadvantaged.

    The fact that "christians" have enough time to waste on a gambling website is so hypocritical I dont even know where to start.  Jesus would condemn this monumental waste of time, along with all of your material possessions and lack of helping your fellow man.

    The real problem with christianity is that christ has been taken out of it by the church.  It should just be called "ianity", there is no christ in todays christians.  Jesus would be sick about you with your car, your house, your food - while half of the world is homeless and hungry - and you do nothing about it except pray to him that you will be able to buy a nicer car or have better food.  What do you think Jesus would say about that?   Christians in this country have a crisis when they cant pay their mortgage, or cant buy organic produce - what do you think a benevolent god thinks of your incredible selfishness when you pray for YOUR life to get better?  Dont you think Jesus would tell you to sell all of your stuff and start hitting the streets to make a difference?

    So I dont take these fake christians too seriously.  They have lost the message.  In fact, I find that non-believers are closer to Jesus and the way he lived than most christians - they have been hijacked to believe that Jesus is in favor of materialism and survival of the fittest.  Jesus was not a survival of the fittest type of guy.  Jesus was a survival of the masses type of guy.

    Let the 1st person who hasnt sinned throw the stone.

     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2011 - 6:04 AM ET #250

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Let the 1st person who hasnt sinned throw the stone.


    Gimme odds on that Toss..Sin is only discretionary..Some cultures see it as a delight to eat pig with unborn chicks..I bet those same people wouldn`t notice the difference if I cooked up a human flesh and rainbow lorikeet eggs instead.Would I be in sin for cooking it, or in sin them for eating it???......YUM..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Let the 1st person who hasnt sinned throw the stone.


    Gimme odds on that Toss..Sin is only discretionary..Some cultures see it as a delight to eat pig with unborn chicks..I bet those same people wouldn`t notice the difference if I cooked up a human flesh and rainbow lorikeet eggs instead.Would I be in sin for cooking it, or in sin them for eating it???......YUM..
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