you are a perfect example why religion is harmful and why we would be better off without it...keep drinking the cool aid and believing in fairytales...
the thread is I hate religion. so lets hammer at another angle.
buddists believe in sanctity of all life. they will not harm any living thing
amish quakers are so against contention they wont even argue.
how do these fit in terms of your all religion is bad statements.
Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:
you are a perfect example why religion is harmful and why we would be better off without it...keep drinking the cool aid and believing in fairytales...
the thread is I hate religion. so lets hammer at another angle.
buddists believe in sanctity of all life. they will not harm any living thing
amish quakers are so against contention they wont even argue.
how do these fit in terms of your all religion is bad statements.
Come on Man, That is a lame answer. You're losing this debate.
Name ONE person! ONE. ONE !
not really lame at all. First of all you need to prove a man really existed that did that, which you can't. second of all, military give their lives every day, and they suffer extreme cruelty (prisoners of war).
so you're fairytale isn't all that special and proves nothing...dieing for you're "sins"
Quote Originally Posted by don juan:
Come on Man, That is a lame answer. You're losing this debate.
Name ONE person! ONE. ONE !
not really lame at all. First of all you need to prove a man really existed that did that, which you can't. second of all, military give their lives every day, and they suffer extreme cruelty (prisoners of war).
so you're fairytale isn't all that special and proves nothing...dieing for you're "sins"
and your the perfect reason why athesist not enough proof could be given
to a beliver no proof is needed.
no, no proof has been given
but to pick this one if its a fairy tale then why would you believe it was so important your emotion shows you do believe you just don't like the story.
simple answer, people like you that believe in unreal things affect my life in negative ways...
for me its a happy ending for you well good luck with dat
you think...prove it...
Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:
and your the perfect reason why athesist not enough proof could be given
to a beliver no proof is needed.
no, no proof has been given
but to pick this one if its a fairy tale then why would you believe it was so important your emotion shows you do believe you just don't like the story.
simple answer, people like you that believe in unreal things affect my life in negative ways...
for me its a happy ending for you well good luck with dat
Answer the question, in the absence of God,, why is rape, slavery and murder wrong?
Because you're doing harm to your fellow man/woman.
If you need a belief in a God/Religion to tell you that rape and murder are wrong, then you lack empathy. The fact that you need a doctrine to tell you this is wrong is disturbing.
Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:
Uhm, no it hasnt been answered.
Answer the question, in the absence of God,, why is rape, slavery and murder wrong?
Because you're doing harm to your fellow man/woman.
If you need a belief in a God/Religion to tell you that rape and murder are wrong, then you lack empathy. The fact that you need a doctrine to tell you this is wrong is disturbing.
Answer the question, in the absence of God,, why is rape, slavery and murder wrong?
Also, according to your doctrine, a person can rape and murder all they want, just as long as they accept your fairy tale as their savior before they die and they will be ok by your standards.
Conversely, an average person can do right by his fellow man for their entire life and still go to hell according to your standards. If for nothing else, just being born in the wrong part of the world and never having your doctrine introduced to them.
How do you justify this according to your belief structure?
Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:
Uhm, no it hasnt been answered.
Answer the question, in the absence of God,, why is rape, slavery and murder wrong?
Also, according to your doctrine, a person can rape and murder all they want, just as long as they accept your fairy tale as their savior before they die and they will be ok by your standards.
Conversely, an average person can do right by his fellow man for their entire life and still go to hell according to your standards. If for nothing else, just being born in the wrong part of the world and never having your doctrine introduced to them.
How do you justify this according to your belief structure?
Also, according to your doctrine, a person can rape and murder all they want, just as long as they accept your fairy tale as their savior before they die and they will be ok by your standards.
Conversely, an average person can do right by his fellow man for their entire life and still go to hell according to your standards. If for nothing else, just being born in the wrong part of the world and never having your doctrine introduced to them.
How do you justify this according to your belief structure?
if I have to stick with just to Christianity then
mystic Swedenborg developed doctrine for just this stance it delt with heaven.
latterdaysaints also deals with in this context in their Version of heaven.
both of these Christian churches because they believe jesus is Lord.
Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:
Also, according to your doctrine, a person can rape and murder all they want, just as long as they accept your fairy tale as their savior before they die and they will be ok by your standards.
Conversely, an average person can do right by his fellow man for their entire life and still go to hell according to your standards. If for nothing else, just being born in the wrong part of the world and never having your doctrine introduced to them.
How do you justify this according to your belief structure?
if I have to stick with just to Christianity then
mystic Swedenborg developed doctrine for just this stance it delt with heaven.
latterdaysaints also deals with in this context in their Version of heaven.
both of these Christian churches because they believe jesus is Lord.
designing building all those tombs by a group of pagans to build a church based on the anointed one? the constinople doug them all to place the tomb of the apostles in instanbul?
okay then how does the tomb of Timothy and Thomas exist in India.
okay why would the catholic church seek to destroy the gospel of Thomas and Valintino? according to your posts
it is all a fairy tale.
so finally I will go back to my first statement
an athesist no proof is enough
\to a believer no proof is necessary.
Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:
can you put this into coherent english please?
do you think this was some conspiracy theory
designing building all those tombs by a group of pagans to build a church based on the anointed one? the constinople doug them all to place the tomb of the apostles in instanbul?
okay then how does the tomb of Timothy and Thomas exist in India.
okay why would the catholic church seek to destroy the gospel of Thomas and Valintino? according to your posts
Also, according to your doctrine, a person can rape and murder all they want, just as long as they accept your fairy tale as their savior before they die and they will be ok by your standards.
Conversely, an average person can do right by his fellow man for their entire life and still go to hell according to your standards. If for nothing else, just being born in the wrong part of the world and never having your doctrine introduced to them.
How do you justify this according to your belief structure?
Forget the bible for a second..in the absence of God, is raping, murdering and stealing wrong?
Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:
Also, according to your doctrine, a person can rape and murder all they want, just as long as they accept your fairy tale as their savior before they die and they will be ok by your standards.
Conversely, an average person can do right by his fellow man for their entire life and still go to hell according to your standards. If for nothing else, just being born in the wrong part of the world and never having your doctrine introduced to them.
How do you justify this according to your belief structure?
Forget the bible for a second..in the absence of God, is raping, murdering and stealing wrong?
designing building all those tombs by a group of pagans to build a church based on the anointed one? the constinople doug them all to place the tomb of the apostles in instanbul?
okay then how does the tomb of Timothy and Thomas exist in India.
okay why would the catholic church seek to destroy the gospel of Thomas and Valintino? according to your posts
it is all a fairy tale.
so finally I will go back to my first statement
an athesist no proof is enough
\to a believer no proof is necessary.
walking on water, born of a virgin, born again, noahs ark, heaven and hell...fairytale, fairytale, fairytale, fairytale, fairytale...
you have given zero proof of anything, sad statement "to a believer no proof is necessary", but I bet in every other aspect of your life proof would be necessary...think about that for a minute
Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:
do you think this was some conspiracy theory
designing building all those tombs by a group of pagans to build a church based on the anointed one? the constinople doug them all to place the tomb of the apostles in instanbul?
okay then how does the tomb of Timothy and Thomas exist in India.
okay why would the catholic church seek to destroy the gospel of Thomas and Valintino? according to your posts
it is all a fairy tale.
so finally I will go back to my first statement
an athesist no proof is enough
\to a believer no proof is necessary.
walking on water, born of a virgin, born again, noahs ark, heaven and hell...fairytale, fairytale, fairytale, fairytale, fairytale...
you have given zero proof of anything, sad statement "to a believer no proof is necessary", but I bet in every other aspect of your life proof would be necessary...think about that for a minute
walking on water, born of a virgin, born again, noahs ark, heaven and hell...fairytale, fairytale, fairytale, fairytale, fairytale...
you have given zero proof of anything, sad statement "to a believer no proof is necessary", but I bet in every other aspect of your life proof would be necessary...think about that for a minute
walking on water is a discipline buddists can attest to far better than Christians,
virgins bearing children muslims have a way called thighing,
noahs ark are their sea shells fossils on top of everst.
heaven and hell . almost everyone assumes they are going to die.
ill give the accounts of the near death experiences ppl have had when their heart stopped and it was started again.
finally Just because natural man is an enemy of god doesn't make bad.
Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:
walking on water, born of a virgin, born again, noahs ark, heaven and hell...fairytale, fairytale, fairytale, fairytale, fairytale...
you have given zero proof of anything, sad statement "to a believer no proof is necessary", but I bet in every other aspect of your life proof would be necessary...think about that for a minute
walking on water is a discipline buddists can attest to far better than Christians,
virgins bearing children muslims have a way called thighing,
noahs ark are their sea shells fossils on top of everst.
heaven and hell . almost everyone assumes they are going to die.
ill give the accounts of the near death experiences ppl have had when their heart stopped and it was started again.
finally Just because natural man is an enemy of god doesn't make bad.
walking on water is a discipline buddists can attest to far better than Christians,
virgins bearing children muslims have a way called thighing,
noahs ark are their sea shells fossils on top of everst.
heaven and hell . almost everyone assumes they are going to die.
ill give the accounts of the near death experiences ppl have had when their heart stopped and it was started again.
finally Just because natural man is an enemy of god doesn't make bad.
ok, we can end this here, because I am obviously speaking to a religious nut job... you'll believe anything...walking on water, virgins bearing children
Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:
walking on water is a discipline buddists can attest to far better than Christians,
virgins bearing children muslims have a way called thighing,
noahs ark are their sea shells fossils on top of everst.
heaven and hell . almost everyone assumes they are going to die.
ill give the accounts of the near death experiences ppl have had when their heart stopped and it was started again.
finally Just because natural man is an enemy of god doesn't make bad.
ok, we can end this here, because I am obviously speaking to a religious nut job... you'll believe anything...walking on water, virgins bearing children
ok, we can end this here, because I am obviously speaking to a religious nut job... you'll believe anything...walking on water, virgins bearing children
yeah and you have no more points besides mocking
but my modern day hero is Ghanndi he stated I am Hindu iam Buddhist I am Christian I am Hebrew I am Muslim violence begets violence love begats love.
Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:
ok, we can end this here, because I am obviously speaking to a religious nut job... you'll believe anything...walking on water, virgins bearing children
yeah and you have no more points besides mocking
but my modern day hero is Ghanndi he stated I am Hindu iam Buddhist I am Christian I am Hebrew I am Muslim violence begets violence love begats love.
walking on water, born of a virgin, born again, noahs ark, heaven and hell...fairytale, fairytale, fairytale, fairytale, fairytale...
you have given zero proof of anything, sad statement "to a believer no proof is necessary", but I bet in every other aspect of your life proof would be necessary...think about that for a minute
Because those things are not possible if God exists.....????
I mean God can create a universe, life... but walking on water? Virgin births? Nah, no way....they arent possible....
Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:
walking on water, born of a virgin, born again, noahs ark, heaven and hell...fairytale, fairytale, fairytale, fairytale, fairytale...
you have given zero proof of anything, sad statement "to a believer no proof is necessary", but I bet in every other aspect of your life proof would be necessary...think about that for a minute
Because those things are not possible if God exists.....????
I mean God can create a universe, life... but walking on water? Virgin births? Nah, no way....they arent possible....