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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2016 - 7:26 PM ET #101

    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:


    you are a perfect example why religion is harmful and why we would be better off without it...keep drinking the cool aid and believing in fairytales... 
    the thread is I hate religion. so lets hammer at another angle.
    buddists believe in sanctity of all life. they will not harm any living thing
    amish quakers are so against contention they wont even argue.
    how do these fit in terms of your all religion is bad statements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:


    you are a perfect example why religion is harmful and why we would be better off without it...keep drinking the cool aid and believing in fairytales... 
    the thread is I hate religion. so lets hammer at another angle.
    buddists believe in sanctity of all life. they will not harm any living thing
    amish quakers are so against contention they wont even argue.
    how do these fit in terms of your all religion is bad statements.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2016 - 2:15 AM ET #102

    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:


    yes, it has been answered many times, you just don't like the answer...

    Uhm, no it hasnt been answered.

    Answer the question, in the absence of God,, why is rape, slavery and murder wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:


    yes, it has been answered many times, you just don't like the answer...

    Uhm, no it hasnt been answered.

    Answer the question, in the absence of God,, why is rape, slavery and murder wrong?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2016 - 3:01 AM ET #103

    Nature boy replying nonsense six times in a row killed this thread. 

    Just let it die already. 
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    Nature boy replying nonsense six times in a row killed this thread. 

    Just let it die already. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2016 - 9:37 AM ET #104

    wasnt christ stealing or burrowing concepts of buddhism? he was a silk trade guy...
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    wasnt christ stealing or burrowing concepts of buddhism? he was a silk trade guy...
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2016 - 10:42 AM ET #105

    Quote Originally Posted by don juan:


    Come on Man, That is a lame answer.  You're losing this debate.

    Name ONE person!  ONE.  ONE !

    not really lame at all. First of all you need to prove a man really existed that did that, which you can't. second of all, military give their lives every day, and they suffer extreme cruelty (prisoners of war).

    so you're fairytale isn't all that special and proves nothing...dieing for you're "sins"  


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    Quote Originally Posted by don juan:


    Come on Man, That is a lame answer.  You're losing this debate.

    Name ONE person!  ONE.  ONE !

    not really lame at all. First of all you need to prove a man really existed that did that, which you can't. second of all, military give their lives every day, and they suffer extreme cruelty (prisoners of war).

    so you're fairytale isn't all that special and proves nothing...dieing for you're "sins"  


     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2016 - 10:46 AM ET #106

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:


    and your the perfect reason why athesist not enough proof could be given
    to a beliver no proof is needed.

    no, no proof has been given

    but to pick this one if its a fairy tale then why would you believe it was so important your emotion shows you do believe you just don't like the story.

    simple answer, people like you that believe in unreal things affect my life in negative ways...

    for me its a happy ending for you well good luck with dat

    you think...prove it...




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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:


    and your the perfect reason why athesist not enough proof could be given
    to a beliver no proof is needed.

    no, no proof has been given

    but to pick this one if its a fairy tale then why would you believe it was so important your emotion shows you do believe you just don't like the story.

    simple answer, people like you that believe in unreal things affect my life in negative ways...

    for me its a happy ending for you well good luck with dat

    you think...prove it...




     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2016 - 10:48 AM ET #107

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:


    Uhm, no it hasnt been answered.

    Answer the question, in the absence of God,, why is rape, slavery and murder wrong?

    i'm not going to repeat what has been said many times, go back and read...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:


    Uhm, no it hasnt been answered.

    Answer the question, in the absence of God,, why is rape, slavery and murder wrong?

    i'm not going to repeat what has been said many times, go back and read...
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2016 - 11:38 AM ET #108

    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:




    okay. the tombs of the apostles,
    saint peter Vatican
    st Andrew Greece Andrew cross x
    st timothy india
    st barnabas crimerea
    st paul rome
    st Mathew isreal
    st john and james house galilee
    st john's cave Antioch turkey
    the tomb of the apostles after they dug them up constinople now Istanbul
    spear of lazurus staff popes scepter with a cross on top now
    Lazurus Mary and Martha tomb france.
    st valintino diary son of the maid jesus  rose from the grave
    st timothy sanscirpt text sri lanka.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:




    okay. the tombs of the apostles,
    saint peter Vatican
    st Andrew Greece Andrew cross x
    st timothy india
    st barnabas crimerea
    st paul rome
    st Mathew isreal
    st john and james house galilee
    st john's cave Antioch turkey
    the tomb of the apostles after they dug them up constinople now Istanbul
    spear of lazurus staff popes scepter with a cross on top now
    Lazurus Mary and Martha tomb france.
    st valintino diary son of the maid jesus  rose from the grave
    st timothy sanscirpt text sri lanka.


     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2016 - 3:37 PM ET #109

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:


    Uhm, no it hasnt been answered.

    Answer the question, in the absence of God,, why is rape, slavery and murder wrong?

    Because you're doing harm to your fellow man/woman. 

    If you need a belief in a God/Religion to tell you that rape and murder are wrong, then you lack empathy. The fact that you need a doctrine to tell you this is wrong is disturbing. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:


    Uhm, no it hasnt been answered.

    Answer the question, in the absence of God,, why is rape, slavery and murder wrong?

    Because you're doing harm to your fellow man/woman. 

    If you need a belief in a God/Religion to tell you that rape and murder are wrong, then you lack empathy. The fact that you need a doctrine to tell you this is wrong is disturbing. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2016 - 3:40 PM ET #110

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:


    Uhm, no it hasnt been answered.

    Answer the question, in the absence of God,, why is rape, slavery and murder wrong?

    Also, according to your doctrine, a person can rape and murder all they want, just as long as they accept your fairy tale as their savior before they die and they will be ok by your standards. 

    Conversely, an average person can do right by his fellow man for their entire life and still go to hell according to your standards. If for nothing else, just being born in the wrong part of the world and never having your doctrine introduced to them. 

    How do you justify this according to your belief structure? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:


    Uhm, no it hasnt been answered.

    Answer the question, in the absence of God,, why is rape, slavery and murder wrong?

    Also, according to your doctrine, a person can rape and murder all they want, just as long as they accept your fairy tale as their savior before they die and they will be ok by your standards. 

    Conversely, an average person can do right by his fellow man for their entire life and still go to hell according to your standards. If for nothing else, just being born in the wrong part of the world and never having your doctrine introduced to them. 

    How do you justify this according to your belief structure? 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2016 - 3:53 PM ET #111

    Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:


    Also, according to your doctrine, a person can rape and murder all they want, just as long as they accept your fairy tale as their savior before they die and they will be ok by your standards. 

    Conversely, an average person can do right by his fellow man for their entire life and still go to hell according to your standards. If for nothing else, just being born in the wrong part of the world and never having your doctrine introduced to them. 

    How do you justify this according to your belief structure? 

    if I have to stick with just to Christianity then

    mystic Swedenborg developed doctrine for just this stance it delt with heaven.
    latterdaysaints also deals with in this context in their Version of heaven.
    both of these Christian churches because they believe jesus is Lord.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:


    Also, according to your doctrine, a person can rape and murder all they want, just as long as they accept your fairy tale as their savior before they die and they will be ok by your standards. 

    Conversely, an average person can do right by his fellow man for their entire life and still go to hell according to your standards. If for nothing else, just being born in the wrong part of the world and never having your doctrine introduced to them. 

    How do you justify this according to your belief structure? 

    if I have to stick with just to Christianity then

    mystic Swedenborg developed doctrine for just this stance it delt with heaven.
    latterdaysaints also deals with in this context in their Version of heaven.
    both of these Christian churches because they believe jesus is Lord.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2016 - 5:30 PM ET #112

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:


    okay. the tombs of the apostles,
    saint peter Vatican
    st Andrew Greece Andrew cross x
    st timothy india
    st barnabas crimerea
    st paul rome
    st Mathew isreal
    st john and james house galilee
    st john's cave Antioch turkey
    the tomb of the apostles after they dug them up constinople now Istanbul
    spear of lazurus staff popes scepter with a cross on top now
    Lazurus Mary and Martha tomb france.
    st valintino diary son of the maid jesus  rose from the grave
    st timothy sanscirpt text sri lanka.



    can you put this into coherent english please? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:


    okay. the tombs of the apostles,
    saint peter Vatican
    st Andrew Greece Andrew cross x
    st timothy india
    st barnabas crimerea
    st paul rome
    st Mathew isreal
    st john and james house galilee
    st john's cave Antioch turkey
    the tomb of the apostles after they dug them up constinople now Istanbul
    spear of lazurus staff popes scepter with a cross on top now
    Lazurus Mary and Martha tomb france.
    st valintino diary son of the maid jesus  rose from the grave
    st timothy sanscirpt text sri lanka.



    can you put this into coherent english please? 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2016 - 5:52 PM ET #113

    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:


    can you put this into coherent english please? 

    do you think this was some conspiracy theory
    designing building all those tombs by a group of pagans to build a church based on the anointed one? the constinople doug them all to place the tomb of the apostles in instanbul?

    okay then how does the tomb of Timothy and Thomas exist in India.
    okay why would the catholic church seek to destroy the gospel of Thomas and Valintino? according to your posts

    it is all a fairy tale.

    so finally I will go back to my first statement
     an athesist no proof is enough
    \to a believer no proof is necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:


    can you put this into coherent english please? 

    do you think this was some conspiracy theory
    designing building all those tombs by a group of pagans to build a church based on the anointed one? the constinople doug them all to place the tomb of the apostles in instanbul?

    okay then how does the tomb of Timothy and Thomas exist in India.
    okay why would the catholic church seek to destroy the gospel of Thomas and Valintino? according to your posts

    it is all a fairy tale.

    so finally I will go back to my first statement
     an athesist no proof is enough
    \to a believer no proof is necessary.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2016 - 6:07 PM ET #114

    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:


    i'm not going to repeat what has been said many times, go back and read...

    Because you DONT have an answer
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    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:


    i'm not going to repeat what has been said many times, go back and read...

    Because you DONT have an answer
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2016 - 6:09 PM ET #115

    Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:


    Also, according to your doctrine, a person can rape and murder all they want, just as long as they accept your fairy tale as their savior before they die and they will be ok by your standards. 

    Conversely, an average person can do right by his fellow man for their entire life and still go to hell according to your standards. If for nothing else, just being born in the wrong part of the world and never having your doctrine introduced to them. 

    How do you justify this according to your belief structure? 

    Forget the bible for a second..in the absence of God, is raping, murdering and stealing wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:


    Also, according to your doctrine, a person can rape and murder all they want, just as long as they accept your fairy tale as their savior before they die and they will be ok by your standards. 

    Conversely, an average person can do right by his fellow man for their entire life and still go to hell according to your standards. If for nothing else, just being born in the wrong part of the world and never having your doctrine introduced to them. 

    How do you justify this according to your belief structure? 

    Forget the bible for a second..in the absence of God, is raping, murdering and stealing wrong?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2016 - 6:19 PM ET #116

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:


    do you think this was some conspiracy theory
    designing building all those tombs by a group of pagans to build a church based on the anointed one? the constinople doug them all to place the tomb of the apostles in instanbul?

    okay then how does the tomb of Timothy and Thomas exist in India.
    okay why would the catholic church seek to destroy the gospel of Thomas and Valintino? according to your posts

    it is all a fairy tale.

    so finally I will go back to my first statement
     an athesist no proof is enough
    \to a believer no proof is necessary.


    walking on water, born of a virgin, born again, noahs ark, heaven and hell...fairytale, fairytale, fairytale, fairytale, fairytale...

    you have given zero proof of anything, sad statement "to a believer no proof is necessary", but I bet in every other aspect of your life proof would be necessary...think about that for a minute 
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:


    do you think this was some conspiracy theory
    designing building all those tombs by a group of pagans to build a church based on the anointed one? the constinople doug them all to place the tomb of the apostles in instanbul?

    okay then how does the tomb of Timothy and Thomas exist in India.
    okay why would the catholic church seek to destroy the gospel of Thomas and Valintino? according to your posts

    it is all a fairy tale.

    so finally I will go back to my first statement
     an athesist no proof is enough
    \to a believer no proof is necessary.


    walking on water, born of a virgin, born again, noahs ark, heaven and hell...fairytale, fairytale, fairytale, fairytale, fairytale...

    you have given zero proof of anything, sad statement "to a believer no proof is necessary", but I bet in every other aspect of your life proof would be necessary...think about that for a minute 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2016 - 6:25 PM ET #117

    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:


    walking on water, born of a virgin, born again, noahs ark, heaven and hell...fairytale, fairytale, fairytale, fairytale, fairytale...

    you have given zero proof of anything, sad statement "to a believer no proof is necessary", but I bet in every other aspect of your life proof would be necessary...think about that for a minute 
    walking on water is a discipline buddists can attest to far better than Christians,
    virgins bearing children muslims have a way called thighing,
    noahs ark are their sea shells fossils on top of everst.
    heaven and hell . almost everyone assumes they are going to die.
    ill give the accounts of the near death experiences ppl have had when their heart stopped and it was started again.
    finally Just because natural man is an enemy of god doesn't make bad.
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:


    walking on water, born of a virgin, born again, noahs ark, heaven and hell...fairytale, fairytale, fairytale, fairytale, fairytale...

    you have given zero proof of anything, sad statement "to a believer no proof is necessary", but I bet in every other aspect of your life proof would be necessary...think about that for a minute 
    walking on water is a discipline buddists can attest to far better than Christians,
    virgins bearing children muslims have a way called thighing,
    noahs ark are their sea shells fossils on top of everst.
    heaven and hell . almost everyone assumes they are going to die.
    ill give the accounts of the near death experiences ppl have had when their heart stopped and it was started again.
    finally Just because natural man is an enemy of god doesn't make bad.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2016 - 6:33 PM ET #118

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    walking on water is a discipline buddists can attest to far better than Christians,
    virgins bearing children muslims have a way called thighing,
    noahs ark are their sea shells fossils on top of everst.
    heaven and hell . almost everyone assumes they are going to die.
    ill give the accounts of the near death experiences ppl have had when their heart stopped and it was started again.
    finally Just because natural man is an enemy of god doesn't make bad.

    ok, we can end this here, because I am obviously speaking to a religious nut job... you'll believe anything...walking on water, virgins bearing children 
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    walking on water is a discipline buddists can attest to far better than Christians,
    virgins bearing children muslims have a way called thighing,
    noahs ark are their sea shells fossils on top of everst.
    heaven and hell . almost everyone assumes they are going to die.
    ill give the accounts of the near death experiences ppl have had when their heart stopped and it was started again.
    finally Just because natural man is an enemy of god doesn't make bad.

    ok, we can end this here, because I am obviously speaking to a religious nut job... you'll believe anything...walking on water, virgins bearing children 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2016 - 6:36 PM ET #119

    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:


    ok, we can end this here, because I am obviously speaking to a religious nut job... you'll believe anything...walking on water, virgins bearing children 
    yeah and you have no more points besides mocking
    but my modern day hero is Ghanndi he stated I am Hindu iam Buddhist I am Christian I am Hebrew I am Muslim violence begets violence love begats love.
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:


    ok, we can end this here, because I am obviously speaking to a religious nut job... you'll believe anything...walking on water, virgins bearing children 
    yeah and you have no more points besides mocking
    but my modern day hero is Ghanndi he stated I am Hindu iam Buddhist I am Christian I am Hebrew I am Muslim violence begets violence love begats love.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    walking on water is a discipline buddists can attest to far better than Christians,
    virgins bearing children muslims have a way called thighing,
    noahs ark are their sea shells fossils on top of everst.
    heaven and hell . almost everyone assumes they are going to die.
    ill give the accounts of the near death experiences ppl have had when their heart stopped and it was started again.
    finally Just because natural man is an enemy of god doesn't make bad.

    one more thing to help you out, you might want to take some science classes and not believe everything you read...
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    walking on water is a discipline buddists can attest to far better than Christians,
    virgins bearing children muslims have a way called thighing,
    noahs ark are their sea shells fossils on top of everst.
    heaven and hell . almost everyone assumes they are going to die.
    ill give the accounts of the near death experiences ppl have had when their heart stopped and it was started again.
    finally Just because natural man is an enemy of god doesn't make bad.

    one more thing to help you out, you might want to take some science classes and not believe everything you read...
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:


    walking on water, born of a virgin, born again, noahs ark, heaven and hell...fairytale, fairytale, fairytale, fairytale, fairytale...

    you have given zero proof of anything, sad statement "to a believer no proof is necessary", but I bet in every other aspect of your life proof would be necessary...think about that for a minute 

    Because those things are not possible if God exists.....????

    I mean God can create a universe, life... but walking on water? Virgin births? Nah, no way....they arent possible....
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    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:


    walking on water, born of a virgin, born again, noahs ark, heaven and hell...fairytale, fairytale, fairytale, fairytale, fairytale...

    you have given zero proof of anything, sad statement "to a believer no proof is necessary", but I bet in every other aspect of your life proof would be necessary...think about that for a minute 

    Because those things are not possible if God exists.....????

    I mean God can create a universe, life... but walking on water? Virgin births? Nah, no way....they arent possible....
     
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    virgins bearing children.
    https://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2007/12/can_a_virgin_give_birth.html
    https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/americas-virgin-births-one-in-200-mothers-became-pregnant-without-having-sex-9012360.html
    walking on water:

    Miracles of Gautama Buddha - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracles_of_Gautama_Buddha

    chris angel:

    Man walking on water - unbelievable - YouTube

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIsnWATDHw4
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    virgins bearing children.
    https://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2007/12/can_a_virgin_give_birth.html
    https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/americas-virgin-births-one-in-200-mothers-became-pregnant-without-having-sex-9012360.html
    walking on water:

    Miracles of Gautama Buddha - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracles_of_Gautama_Buddha

    chris angel:

    Man walking on water - unbelievable - YouTube

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIsnWATDHw4
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2016 - 10:13 PM ET #123

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:


    Forget the bible for a second..in the absence of God, is raping, murdering and stealing wrong?

    Absolutely. 

    It's detrimental so my fellow man/woman and society as a whole. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:


    Forget the bible for a second..in the absence of God, is raping, murdering and stealing wrong?

    Absolutely. 

    It's detrimental so my fellow man/woman and society as a whole. 
     
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    how about the woman who brews alcohol. she got away from a dui! amazing~!
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    how about the woman who brews alcohol. she got away from a dui! amazing~!
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:


    Absolutely. 

    It's detrimental so my fellow man/woman and society as a whole. 

    *It's detrimental to my fellow....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:


    Absolutely. 

    It's detrimental so my fellow man/woman and society as a whole. 

    *It's detrimental to my fellow....
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