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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2016 - 8:45 AM ET #51

    Quote Originally Posted by SwishSwish1234:


    So you're telling me you have researched,studied and investigated Judaism, Islam and Hinduism/Buddhism before you came to the conclusion of being a Christian, Yeah sure you did, Dumb follower. 

    So now you know me and how i came to the faith?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwishSwish1234:


    So you're telling me you have researched,studied and investigated Judaism, Islam and Hinduism/Buddhism before you came to the conclusion of being a Christian, Yeah sure you did, Dumb follower. 

    So now you know me and how i came to the faith?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2016 - 8:58 AM ET #52

    Quote Originally Posted by SwishSwish1234:

    Because if you're a Christian who hasn't studied Islam/Judaism and the other two religions well then how can you say you decided Christianity was the correct religion? Just admit it you were born into it and did not have the mental fortitude to think outside of it's belief, Which brings me back to my original choice of words, You're a dumb follower.

    You just committed the genetic fallacy here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwishSwish1234:

    Because if you're a Christian who hasn't studied Islam/Judaism and the other two religions well then how can you say you decided Christianity was the correct religion? Just admit it you were born into it and did not have the mental fortitude to think outside of it's belief, Which brings me back to my original choice of words, You're a dumb follower.

    You just committed the genetic fallacy here.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2016 - 9:40 AM ET #53

    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:


    When something is silly I use the silly rolling heads 

    I don't need to tell my kids to love me or worship me, and I certainly don't threaten them with something if they don't...

    And if I wasn't given a "loving Mother and Father"? Are you saying everyone who is born is? All births come from love? Try again...




    It seems that you have a negative attitude.  God is not threatening you at all, you are given a choice. You have reached the age of responsibility.

    God is asking you not to worship idols, because you have seen creation, and you have heard the Word. ( what good is a man if his word is no good ? ) 

    You are blessed with good parents. Children that are born without loving parents, are adopted. Just as gentiles are adopted for sonship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:


    When something is silly I use the silly rolling heads 

    I don't need to tell my kids to love me or worship me, and I certainly don't threaten them with something if they don't...

    And if I wasn't given a "loving Mother and Father"? Are you saying everyone who is born is? All births come from love? Try again...




    It seems that you have a negative attitude.  God is not threatening you at all, you are given a choice. You have reached the age of responsibility.

    God is asking you not to worship idols, because you have seen creation, and you have heard the Word. ( what good is a man if his word is no good ? ) 

    You are blessed with good parents. Children that are born without loving parents, are adopted. Just as gentiles are adopted for sonship.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2016 - 10:37 AM ET #54

    I love it when religious people tell you that choosing your religion isn't blind stupid faith, Their belief in heaven/hell alone is the taking one big punt i.e. gambling, You are gambling that when you die you don't fade to black, Where's your evidence to suggest it isn't a gamble? 
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    I love it when religious people tell you that choosing your religion isn't blind stupid faith, Their belief in heaven/hell alone is the taking one big punt i.e. gambling, You are gambling that when you die you don't fade to black, Where's your evidence to suggest it isn't a gamble? 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2016 - 3:53 PM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by SwishSwish1234:

    I love it when religious people tell you that choosing your religion isn't blind stupid faith, Their belief in heaven/hell alone is the taking one big punt i.e. gambling, You are gambling that when you die you don't fade to black, Where's your evidence to suggest it isn't a gamble? 

    And that's why it's best to just live your life and then deal with what happens after death when you actually die. Instead, these people live their entire life dedicated to something that may or may not exist. 

    And to that dude responding to 567 posts... Please save me your bible quotes. Humans wrote that book. I don't care. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwishSwish1234:

    I love it when religious people tell you that choosing your religion isn't blind stupid faith, Their belief in heaven/hell alone is the taking one big punt i.e. gambling, You are gambling that when you die you don't fade to black, Where's your evidence to suggest it isn't a gamble? 

    And that's why it's best to just live your life and then deal with what happens after death when you actually die. Instead, these people live their entire life dedicated to something that may or may not exist. 

    And to that dude responding to 567 posts... Please save me your bible quotes. Humans wrote that book. I don't care. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2016 - 4:12 PM ET #56

    ok with out religion what would be the moral compass?
    how could we define good or bad. and then if evil or good not being equal why would the stronger not over power the weaker after a few milliniums?

    ill leave that to god
    but you pray to the paper money.
    I got a chance of treasure after this blink ( a whole hundred years in this dispictable vessel (the human condition))) 
    and you wont be able to use yours anyway so no chance.
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    ok with out religion what would be the moral compass?
    how could we define good or bad. and then if evil or good not being equal why would the stronger not over power the weaker after a few milliniums?

    ill leave that to god
    but you pray to the paper money.
    I got a chance of treasure after this blink ( a whole hundred years in this dispictable vessel (the human condition))) 
    and you wont be able to use yours anyway so no chance.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2016 - 4:14 PM ET #57

    but in football terms 3 sec left your down by two sitting on the fifty yard line do you punt or take a hail mary...lol
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    but in football terms 3 sec left your down by two sitting on the fifty yard line do you punt or take a hail mary...lol
     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2016 - 4:16 PM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by SwishSwish1234:

    I love it when religious people tell you that choosing your religion isn't blind stupid faith, Their belief in heaven/hell alone is the taking one big punt i.e. gambling, You are gambling that when you die you don't fade to black, Where's your evidence to suggest it isn't a gamble? 

    Who is believing without evidence? As i said, why dont you investigate the evidence and claims and make  decision either way?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwishSwish1234:

    I love it when religious people tell you that choosing your religion isn't blind stupid faith, Their belief in heaven/hell alone is the taking one big punt i.e. gambling, You are gambling that when you die you don't fade to black, Where's your evidence to suggest it isn't a gamble? 

    Who is believing without evidence? As i said, why dont you investigate the evidence and claims and make  decision either way?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2016 - 4:23 PM ET #59

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    but in football terms 3 sec left your down by two sitting on the fifty yard line do you punt or take a hail mary...lol

    p.s your kicker ri[[ed his achilis on the last punt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    but in football terms 3 sec left your down by two sitting on the fifty yard line do you punt or take a hail mary...lol

    p.s your kicker ri[[ed his achilis on the last punt.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2016 - 5:53 PM ET #60

    Quote Originally Posted by don juan:


    It seems that you have a negative attitude.  God is not threatening you at all, you are given a choice. You have reached the age of responsibility.

    God is asking you not to worship idols, because you have seen creation, and you have heard the Word. ( what good is a man if his word is no good ? ) 

    You are blessed with good parents. Children that are born without loving parents, are adopted. Just as gentiles are adopted for sonship.

    you got negative attitude from what I wrote? maybe you think its negative because I don't buy your bs you're selling...

    You don't know my parents, so how can you say that? So, children are born with unloving parents, but you said that is how "god" shows his love. You said he shows his love by giving you loving parents Oh, they are adopted...but are all foster parents loving...you seriously need to think through this a little more... 

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    Quote Originally Posted by don juan:


    It seems that you have a negative attitude.  God is not threatening you at all, you are given a choice. You have reached the age of responsibility.

    God is asking you not to worship idols, because you have seen creation, and you have heard the Word. ( what good is a man if his word is no good ? ) 

    You are blessed with good parents. Children that are born without loving parents, are adopted. Just as gentiles are adopted for sonship.

    you got negative attitude from what I wrote? maybe you think its negative because I don't buy your bs you're selling...

    You don't know my parents, so how can you say that? So, children are born with unloving parents, but you said that is how "god" shows his love. You said he shows his love by giving you loving parents Oh, they are adopted...but are all foster parents loving...you seriously need to think through this a little more... 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2016 - 5:57 PM ET #61

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    ok with out religion what would be the moral compass?
    how could we define good or bad. and then if evil or good not being equal why would the stronger not over power the weaker after a few milliniums?

    ill leave that to god
    but you pray to the paper money.
    I got a chance of treasure after this blink ( a whole hundred years in this dispictable vessel (the human condition))) 
    and you wont be able to use yours anyway so no chance.

    religion is your moral compass, is that the same religion that condones rape, slavery, genocide, and murder? 

    pascals wager lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    ok with out religion what would be the moral compass?
    how could we define good or bad. and then if evil or good not being equal why would the stronger not over power the weaker after a few milliniums?

    ill leave that to god
    but you pray to the paper money.
    I got a chance of treasure after this blink ( a whole hundred years in this dispictable vessel (the human condition))) 
    and you wont be able to use yours anyway so no chance.

    religion is your moral compass, is that the same religion that condones rape, slavery, genocide, and murder? 

    pascals wager lol


     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2016 - 6:10 PM ET #62

    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:


    religion is your moral compass, is that the same religion that condones rape, slavery, genocide, and murder? 

    pascals wager lol


    Explain in detail what you mean by your question. What examples are you using and the reasoning behind them?  Or are you simply repeating things you have heard that sound good?  If so, that is cool also. It is better to study these things for yourself to understand them in context. 

    Also, this is a classic misunderstanding of the Pascalian Wager. Please delve into this more to understand it as well.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:


    religion is your moral compass, is that the same religion that condones rape, slavery, genocide, and murder? 

    pascals wager lol


    Explain in detail what you mean by your question. What examples are you using and the reasoning behind them?  Or are you simply repeating things you have heard that sound good?  If so, that is cool also. It is better to study these things for yourself to understand them in context. 

    Also, this is a classic misunderstanding of the Pascalian Wager. Please delve into this more to understand it as well.  
     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2016 - 6:16 PM ET #63

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Explain in detail what you mean by your question. What examples are you using and the reasoning behind them?  Or are you simply repeating things you have heard that sound good?  If so, that is cool also. It is better to study these things for yourself to understand them in context. 

    Also, this is a classic misunderstanding of the Pascalian Wager. Please delve into this more to understand it as well.  

    It's a pretty straight forward question. You know exactly what I'm talking about if you have read the bible...

    Please share how I am misunderstanding, I feel very good about my understanding of it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Explain in detail what you mean by your question. What examples are you using and the reasoning behind them?  Or are you simply repeating things you have heard that sound good?  If so, that is cool also. It is better to study these things for yourself to understand them in context. 

    Also, this is a classic misunderstanding of the Pascalian Wager. Please delve into this more to understand it as well.  

    It's a pretty straight forward question. You know exactly what I'm talking about if you have read the bible...

    Please share how I am misunderstanding, I feel very good about my understanding of it...
     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2016 - 6:35 PM ET #64

    middle america is wired so football is religion

    high skool on friday nights
    college football on saturday
    big boys on sunday...

    we dont need to go to sermons when at the end of the game we pray our gods are ok!

    and if theyre ok, theyre good to join the military to fight for freedom!
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    middle america is wired so football is religion

    high skool on friday nights
    college football on saturday
    big boys on sunday...

    we dont need to go to sermons when at the end of the game we pray our gods are ok!

    and if theyre ok, theyre good to join the military to fight for freedom!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2016 - 8:10 PM ET #65

    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:


    religion is your moral compass, is that the same religion that condones rape, slavery, genocide, and murder? 

    pascals wager lol


    no my bible has sermon on the mount, ten commandments, genesis . my book of Mormon states not to become like your enemy or we give theis land to them. my quran speaks of breaking the wall and let the water destroy the fire of hell. my buddist text teaches to respect all life for harming any living thing will harm us all. m hindu texts teaches of lord krsna reign against the war of heaven. my bible only speaks of this war in reference to john. my book of tao (dow) states to allow the maker of tenthousand things time to destroy itself. my book of endorpha reveals why lust is needed for the hope of man my paradise lost text reveals how paradise was lost and what must be done to regain utopia.

    what book do read sir.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:


    religion is your moral compass, is that the same religion that condones rape, slavery, genocide, and murder? 

    pascals wager lol


    no my bible has sermon on the mount, ten commandments, genesis . my book of Mormon states not to become like your enemy or we give theis land to them. my quran speaks of breaking the wall and let the water destroy the fire of hell. my buddist text teaches to respect all life for harming any living thing will harm us all. m hindu texts teaches of lord krsna reign against the war of heaven. my bible only speaks of this war in reference to john. my book of tao (dow) states to allow the maker of tenthousand things time to destroy itself. my book of endorpha reveals why lust is needed for the hope of man my paradise lost text reveals how paradise was lost and what must be done to regain utopia.

    what book do read sir.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2016 - 8:31 PM ET #66

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    no my bible has sermon on the mount, ten commandments, genesis . my book of Mormon states not to become like your enemy or we give theis land to them. my quran speaks of breaking the wall and let the water destroy the fire of hell. my buddist text teaches to respect all life for harming any living thing will harm us all. m hindu texts teaches of lord krsna reign against the war of heaven. my bible only speaks of this war in reference to john. my book of tao (dow) states to allow the maker of tenthousand things time to destroy itself. my book of endorpha reveals why lust is needed for the hope of man my paradise lost text reveals how paradise was lost and what must be done to regain utopia.

    what book do read sir.

    so I guess you have a special bible that doesn't have the rape, slavery, genocide, and murder parts...

    we aren't talking about your other books, and the one's dealing with heaven and hell are meaningless to me considering they are make believe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    no my bible has sermon on the mount, ten commandments, genesis . my book of Mormon states not to become like your enemy or we give theis land to them. my quran speaks of breaking the wall and let the water destroy the fire of hell. my buddist text teaches to respect all life for harming any living thing will harm us all. m hindu texts teaches of lord krsna reign against the war of heaven. my bible only speaks of this war in reference to john. my book of tao (dow) states to allow the maker of tenthousand things time to destroy itself. my book of endorpha reveals why lust is needed for the hope of man my paradise lost text reveals how paradise was lost and what must be done to regain utopia.

    what book do read sir.

    so I guess you have a special bible that doesn't have the rape, slavery, genocide, and murder parts...

    we aren't talking about your other books, and the one's dealing with heaven and hell are meaningless to me considering they are make believe...

     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2016 - 8:34 PM ET #67

    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:


    It's a pretty straight forward question. You know exactly what I'm talking about if you have read the bible...

    Please share how I am misunderstanding, I feel very good about my understanding of it...
    okay in bible ot mosaic law says these things are punishable by death. rape =stoning murder stoning, genocide was thought by Samuel to the philistines to destroy any future conflict but the king could not bear it and he anointed david as the future king the kings son Jonathon concurred.
    slavery was addressed that a good servant will be loved more than ones own son.
    new testament one wife concubine non.
    servants were to be treated kindly
    genocide wasn't discussed.
    murders were to live and die by the sword.
    hell was a torment to those who were good in reference to lazurus experience in the grave.
    quran was taught of the life of Mohamed and his torment by the ones who feared him. when he lost his family he lost his way in opinion he found his way again when he found he could forgive.
    etidorpha teaches of what is a moment could be 1 million years or a second because what one feels. eternity and now are the same.
    tao speaks that things are ok if desire is to live ambition is the destruction of the soul.
    hindu texts teach that we progress to all or divert to nothing. contentment is achieved by release of want..
    buddists are similar but believe as enlightment the natural release of all pain as the goal.
    again what text is it that you speak of for I know the darkest ones as well.
    they believe that if god can change creators work will be undone and they can install to the abyss nothing.
    but your just state sorrow with no hope I like to understand this understanding so I may defeat it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:


    It's a pretty straight forward question. You know exactly what I'm talking about if you have read the bible...

    Please share how I am misunderstanding, I feel very good about my understanding of it...
    okay in bible ot mosaic law says these things are punishable by death. rape =stoning murder stoning, genocide was thought by Samuel to the philistines to destroy any future conflict but the king could not bear it and he anointed david as the future king the kings son Jonathon concurred.
    slavery was addressed that a good servant will be loved more than ones own son.
    new testament one wife concubine non.
    servants were to be treated kindly
    genocide wasn't discussed.
    murders were to live and die by the sword.
    hell was a torment to those who were good in reference to lazurus experience in the grave.
    quran was taught of the life of Mohamed and his torment by the ones who feared him. when he lost his family he lost his way in opinion he found his way again when he found he could forgive.
    etidorpha teaches of what is a moment could be 1 million years or a second because what one feels. eternity and now are the same.
    tao speaks that things are ok if desire is to live ambition is the destruction of the soul.
    hindu texts teach that we progress to all or divert to nothing. contentment is achieved by release of want..
    buddists are similar but believe as enlightment the natural release of all pain as the goal.
    again what text is it that you speak of for I know the darkest ones as well.
    they believe that if god can change creators work will be undone and they can install to the abyss nothing.
    but your just state sorrow with no hope I like to understand this understanding so I may defeat it.


     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2016 - 9:00 PM ET #68

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    okay in bible ot mosaic law says these things are punishable by death. rape =stoning murder stoning, genocide was thought by Samuel to the philistines to destroy any future conflict but the king could not bear it and he anointed david as the future king the kings son Jonathon concurred.
    slavery was addressed that a good servant will be loved more than ones own son.
    new testament one wife concubine non.
    servants were to be treated kindly
    genocide wasn't discussed.
    murders were to live and die by the sword.
    hell was a torment to those who were good in reference to lazurus experience in the grave.
    quran was taught of the life of Mohamed and his torment by the ones who feared him. when he lost his family he lost his way in opinion he found his way again when he found he could forgive.
    etidorpha teaches of what is a moment could be 1 million years or a second because what one feels. eternity and now are the same.
    tao speaks that things are ok if desire is to live ambition is the destruction of the soul.
    hindu texts teach that we progress to all or divert to nothing. contentment is achieved by release of want..
    buddists are similar but believe as enlightment the natural release of all pain as the goal.
    again what text is it that you speak of for I know the darkest ones as well.
    they believe that if god can change creators work will be undone and they can install to the abyss nothing.
    but your just state sorrow with no hope I like to understand this understanding so I may defeat it.


    I don't need to get into all of that, although I could. All I need to do is ask you one simple question. Is slavery wrong? It doesn't matter how you treat a slave, the fact is, is that they are a slave and it's alright according to the bible.   

    And another thing your bible is full of contradictions...
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    okay in bible ot mosaic law says these things are punishable by death. rape =stoning murder stoning, genocide was thought by Samuel to the philistines to destroy any future conflict but the king could not bear it and he anointed david as the future king the kings son Jonathon concurred.
    slavery was addressed that a good servant will be loved more than ones own son.
    new testament one wife concubine non.
    servants were to be treated kindly
    genocide wasn't discussed.
    murders were to live and die by the sword.
    hell was a torment to those who were good in reference to lazurus experience in the grave.
    quran was taught of the life of Mohamed and his torment by the ones who feared him. when he lost his family he lost his way in opinion he found his way again when he found he could forgive.
    etidorpha teaches of what is a moment could be 1 million years or a second because what one feels. eternity and now are the same.
    tao speaks that things are ok if desire is to live ambition is the destruction of the soul.
    hindu texts teach that we progress to all or divert to nothing. contentment is achieved by release of want..
    buddists are similar but believe as enlightment the natural release of all pain as the goal.
    again what text is it that you speak of for I know the darkest ones as well.
    they believe that if god can change creators work will be undone and they can install to the abyss nothing.
    but your just state sorrow with no hope I like to understand this understanding so I may defeat it.


    I don't need to get into all of that, although I could. All I need to do is ask you one simple question. Is slavery wrong? It doesn't matter how you treat a slave, the fact is, is that they are a slave and it's alright according to the bible.   

    And another thing your bible is full of contradictions...
     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2016 - 1:20 AM ET #69

    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:

    I don't need to get into all of that, although I could. All I need to do is ask you one simple question. Is slavery wrong? It doesn't matter how you treat a slave, the fact is, is that they are a slave and it's alright according to the bible.   

    And another thing your bible is full of contradictions...

    is your exact definition of slavery when someone owns someone then reality everyone is owned . corporations own their employees government owns their citizens. choice and freedom are illusions given to masses to believe they are free ppl really none is entirely free if for the basic food we need water and organic material on a daily basis. we are enslaved to the never ending condition. 

    Obama is government property the poor man cant simply walk out of the whitehouse go down to the store and buy a pack of smokes.
    most men of wealth or fame couldn't it is not tolerated.

    institute of slavery is evil by the nature of humans. mostly I see someone gets dumped on and in turn dumps on someone else.
    but government enslaves the masses more subtly than to state you are owned. so we are slaves to our self our emotions and our wants desires dreams.

    the bible contradicts itself.
    the document wasn't written by one man at one time but a few men over hundreds of years facing different trials. Moses leading Hebrews from Egypt I don't believe anticipated Babylon destroying Jeruselem and leading the best tradesmen to  Babylon. Solomon didn't face the temples destruction in 70 ad when he planed to build the temple.
    I believe these men saw what was there mostly what they were facing. They did what all societies do
    what we face they face same they were poor humble servants of god became well off through blessings found they needed no god arrogant forgot where they came from and they lay destroyed to repeat the cycle.
    The story really doesn't change that much. from any empire new or old.




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    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:

    I don't need to get into all of that, although I could. All I need to do is ask you one simple question. Is slavery wrong? It doesn't matter how you treat a slave, the fact is, is that they are a slave and it's alright according to the bible.   

    And another thing your bible is full of contradictions...

    is your exact definition of slavery when someone owns someone then reality everyone is owned . corporations own their employees government owns their citizens. choice and freedom are illusions given to masses to believe they are free ppl really none is entirely free if for the basic food we need water and organic material on a daily basis. we are enslaved to the never ending condition. 

    Obama is government property the poor man cant simply walk out of the whitehouse go down to the store and buy a pack of smokes.
    most men of wealth or fame couldn't it is not tolerated.

    institute of slavery is evil by the nature of humans. mostly I see someone gets dumped on and in turn dumps on someone else.
    but government enslaves the masses more subtly than to state you are owned. so we are slaves to our self our emotions and our wants desires dreams.

    the bible contradicts itself.
    the document wasn't written by one man at one time but a few men over hundreds of years facing different trials. Moses leading Hebrews from Egypt I don't believe anticipated Babylon destroying Jeruselem and leading the best tradesmen to  Babylon. Solomon didn't face the temples destruction in 70 ad when he planed to build the temple.
    I believe these men saw what was there mostly what they were facing. They did what all societies do
    what we face they face same they were poor humble servants of god became well off through blessings found they needed no god arrogant forgot where they came from and they lay destroyed to repeat the cycle.
    The story really doesn't change that much. from any empire new or old.




     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:


    It's a pretty straight forward question. You know exactly what I'm talking about if you have read the bible...

    Please share how I am misunderstanding, I feel very good about my understanding of it...
    I do not. That is why I am asking. You say 'bible'. So that is the Christian religion you are using in your question?  What, for example is the example(s) of rape or slavery being condoned?  And in what context?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:


    It's a pretty straight forward question. You know exactly what I'm talking about if you have read the bible...

    Please share how I am misunderstanding, I feel very good about my understanding of it...
    I do not. That is why I am asking. You say 'bible'. So that is the Christian religion you are using in your question?  What, for example is the example(s) of rape or slavery being condoned?  And in what context?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:

    I don't need to get into all of that, although I could. All I need to do is ask you one simple question. Is slavery wrong? It doesn't matter how you treat a slave, the fact is, is that they are a slave and it's alright according to the bible.   

    And another thing your bible is full of contradictions...
    For example, show this. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:

    I don't need to get into all of that, although I could. All I need to do is ask you one simple question. Is slavery wrong? It doesn't matter how you treat a slave, the fact is, is that they are a slave and it's alright according to the bible.   

    And another thing your bible is full of contradictions...
    For example, show this. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2016 - 1:45 AM ET #72

    1000 years from now will they be talkin about the bible?

    i dont think so... neither will they care about football or obama... i think it will all be relative... even maybe 200 years from now.
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    1000 years from now will they be talkin about the bible?

    i dont think so... neither will they care about football or obama... i think it will all be relative... even maybe 200 years from now.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2016 - 2:41 AM ET #73

    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:


    religion is your moral compass, is that the same religion that condones rape, slavery, genocide, and murder? 

    pascals wager lol



    Forget about the bible for a second....is rape, slavery, genocide and murder wrong?

    According to what standard are they wrong?

    Thats all you are doing, whenever you make a moral claim, you are actually confirming Theism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:


    religion is your moral compass, is that the same religion that condones rape, slavery, genocide, and murder? 

    pascals wager lol



    Forget about the bible for a second....is rape, slavery, genocide and murder wrong?

    According to what standard are they wrong?

    Thats all you are doing, whenever you make a moral claim, you are actually confirming Theism.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2016 - 2:52 AM ET #74

    Quote Originally Posted by SwishSwish1234:

    I love it when religious people tell you that choosing your religion isn't blind stupid faith, Their belief in heaven/hell alone is the taking one big punt i.e. gambling, You are gambling that when you die you don't fade to black, Where's your evidence to suggest it isn't a gamble? 

    near death experiences. nearly all versions are about the same. 1,000 of accounts. and the weight of a soul when a person dies they weigh 21 grams lighter it was tested in Germany 1941 Mormon church 1991 studies at johnhopkins 1989
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwishSwish1234:

    I love it when religious people tell you that choosing your religion isn't blind stupid faith, Their belief in heaven/hell alone is the taking one big punt i.e. gambling, You are gambling that when you die you don't fade to black, Where's your evidence to suggest it isn't a gamble? 

    near death experiences. nearly all versions are about the same. 1,000 of accounts. and the weight of a soul when a person dies they weigh 21 grams lighter it was tested in Germany 1941 Mormon church 1991 studies at johnhopkins 1989
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:

    I don't need to get into all of that, although I could. All I need to do is ask you one simple question. Is slavery wrong? It doesn't matter how you treat a slave, the fact is, is that they are a slave and it's alright according to the bible.   

    And another thing your bible is full of contradictions...

    You may have read the Bible, maybe not. If you did, you didn't understand it.

     Overview.. The old testament speaks of the creation of the world, Give us the Law, the Ten Commandments. And predicts a Messiah.

    The new testament fulfills the Messiah and the Trinity.

    Who predicts his death ? Who teaches the law, suffers unspeakable cruelty, and gives up his life for others ?

    And, shows unconditional Love, and Hope ?  Who does that ? 

    Only one.





     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:

    I don't need to get into all of that, although I could. All I need to do is ask you one simple question. Is slavery wrong? It doesn't matter how you treat a slave, the fact is, is that they are a slave and it's alright according to the bible.   

    And another thing your bible is full of contradictions...

    You may have read the Bible, maybe not. If you did, you didn't understand it.

     Overview.. The old testament speaks of the creation of the world, Give us the Law, the Ten Commandments. And predicts a Messiah.

    The new testament fulfills the Messiah and the Trinity.

    Who predicts his death ? Who teaches the law, suffers unspeakable cruelty, and gives up his life for others ?

    And, shows unconditional Love, and Hope ?  Who does that ? 

    Only one.





     
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