If someone is in favor of banning certain semi-automatic weapons because they look scary to them, then yeah, I think they are anti-2A.
Everyone owns a machine gun, huh?Were they passed out in mass or something because I didn’t get one?
And I think the Founding Fathers made their feelings on the 2nd Amendment abundantly clear.
And our founding fathers were also pretty clear on where they stood on slavery.They were men of vision,to be clear.But alot of their thinking and reasoning was also related to the realities of the times.
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Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:
If someone is in favor of banning certain semi-automatic weapons because they look scary to them, then yeah, I think they are anti-2A.
Everyone owns a machine gun, huh?Were they passed out in mass or something because I didn’t get one?
And I think the Founding Fathers made their feelings on the 2nd Amendment abundantly clear.
And our founding fathers were also pretty clear on where they stood on slavery.They were men of vision,to be clear.But alot of their thinking and reasoning was also related to the realities of the times.
I mean really? Ban guns and/or assault rifles. In about an hour I could make a call or 2 and have about any gun I wanted. I have ZERO criminal record or "real contacts" in the crime scene.....and it would still be that easy....
I really dont understand why people think its the guns fault or that banning them will help anything?
People are borderline retarded ( no offense meant to actual handicapped people). I am almost at a loss for words after reading some of the most idiotic stuff about how criminals wont be able to get guns so easily if they are banned.....THEY WILL BE THE ONLY ONES GETTING THEM.
For f u c k s sake people
Sadly i agree that the american people tend to be stupid,wanting to curb the availability of assault weapons is not one of the reasons though.
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Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:
I mean really? Ban guns and/or assault rifles. In about an hour I could make a call or 2 and have about any gun I wanted. I have ZERO criminal record or "real contacts" in the crime scene.....and it would still be that easy....
I really dont understand why people think its the guns fault or that banning them will help anything?
People are borderline retarded ( no offense meant to actual handicapped people). I am almost at a loss for words after reading some of the most idiotic stuff about how criminals wont be able to get guns so easily if they are banned.....THEY WILL BE THE ONLY ONES GETTING THEM.
For f u c k s sake people
Sadly i agree that the american people tend to be stupid,wanting to curb the availability of assault weapons is not one of the reasons though.
Biscuit, you are ranting about “assault weapons” yet you clearly don’t even know what one is. I mean, hell, you thought they were machine guns.
And yes, I think the Founding Fathers made their feelings on the 2nd Amendment abundantly clear:
“The few cases wherein these things (proposed Bill of Rights) may do evil, cannot be weighed against the multitude where the want of them will do evil…I hope therefore a bill of rights will be formed to guard the people against the federal government…”
-Thomas Jefferson
“Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
-Benjamin Franklin
“Little more can reasonably be aimed at with respect to the people at large than to have them properly armed and equipped.”
-Alexander Hamilton
“No freeman shall ever be debarred the use of arms.” -Thomas Jefferson
"Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in possession and under our direction and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?" -Patrick Henry
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Biscuit, you are ranting about “assault weapons” yet you clearly don’t even know what one is. I mean, hell, you thought they were machine guns.
And yes, I think the Founding Fathers made their feelings on the 2nd Amendment abundantly clear:
“The few cases wherein these things (proposed Bill of Rights) may do evil, cannot be weighed against the multitude where the want of them will do evil…I hope therefore a bill of rights will be formed to guard the people against the federal government…”
-Thomas Jefferson
“Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
-Benjamin Franklin
“Little more can reasonably be aimed at with respect to the people at large than to have them properly armed and equipped.”
-Alexander Hamilton
“No freeman shall ever be debarred the use of arms.” -Thomas Jefferson
"Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in possession and under our direction and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?" -Patrick Henry
"The best we can help for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed." -Alexander Hamilton
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them." -George Mason
"A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves"
-Richard Henry Lee
“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."
-James Madison
"What country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."
-Thomas Jefferson
“Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry.”
-Thomas Jefferson
And those are just a few of them.
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"The best we can help for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed." -Alexander Hamilton
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them." -George Mason
"A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves"
-Richard Henry Lee
“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."
-James Madison
"What country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."
-Thomas Jefferson
“Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry.”
And our founding fathers were also pretty clear on where they stood on slavery.They were men of vision,to be clear.But alot of their thinking and reasoning was also related to the realities of the times.
I have seen some seriously weak arguments from anti-2A people in this debate.However, attempting to besmirch the opinions of the Founding Fathers because of slavery is probably the worst.
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Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1:
And our founding fathers were also pretty clear on where they stood on slavery.They were men of vision,to be clear.But alot of their thinking and reasoning was also related to the realities of the times.
I have seen some seriously weak arguments from anti-2A people in this debate.However, attempting to besmirch the opinions of the Founding Fathers because of slavery is probably the worst.
I have seen some seriously weak arguments from anti-2A people in this debate.However, attempting to besmirch the opinions of the Founding Fathers because of slavery is probably the worst.
I am not surprised that you could or would not connect the dots.
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Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:
I have seen some seriously weak arguments from anti-2A people in this debate.However, attempting to besmirch the opinions of the Founding Fathers because of slavery is probably the worst.
I am not surprised that you could or would not connect the dots.
Biscuit, you are ranting about “assault weapons” yet you clearly don’t even know what one is. I mean, hell, you thought they were machine guns.
And yes, I think the Founding Fathers made their feelings on the 2nd Amendment abundantly clear:
“The few cases wherein these things (proposed Bill of Rights) may do evil, cannot be weighed against the multitude where the want of them will do evil…I hope therefore a bill of rights will be formed to guard the people against the federal government…”
-Thomas Jefferson
“Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
-Benjamin Franklin
“Little more can reasonably be aimed at with respect to the people at large than to have them properly armed and equipped.”
-Alexander Hamilton
“No freeman shall ever be debarred the use of arms.” -Thomas Jefferson
"Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in possession and under our direction and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?" -Patrick Henry
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If you have the time, date the quotes for me.TY
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Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:
Biscuit, you are ranting about “assault weapons” yet you clearly don’t even know what one is. I mean, hell, you thought they were machine guns.
And yes, I think the Founding Fathers made their feelings on the 2nd Amendment abundantly clear:
“The few cases wherein these things (proposed Bill of Rights) may do evil, cannot be weighed against the multitude where the want of them will do evil…I hope therefore a bill of rights will be formed to guard the people against the federal government…”
-Thomas Jefferson
“Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
-Benjamin Franklin
“Little more can reasonably be aimed at with respect to the people at large than to have them properly armed and equipped.”
-Alexander Hamilton
“No freeman shall ever be debarred the use of arms.” -Thomas Jefferson
"Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in possession and under our direction and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?" -Patrick Henry
Hey hoss one other thing,seriously,i would scrape together, beg and borrow every nickel that i could get my hands on to bet you that i was firing shotguns, 22's and a pistol that i cant recall, at tin cans a 2 cent soda bottles before you had a hair above your pecker.Maybe before you came outta the oven.Now am i veresed in todays weaponary.No, i grew up.
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Hey hoss one other thing,seriously,i would scrape together, beg and borrow every nickel that i could get my hands on to bet you that i was firing shotguns, 22's and a pistol that i cant recall, at tin cans a 2 cent soda bottles before you had a hair above your pecker.Maybe before you came outta the oven.Now am i veresed in todays weaponary.No, i grew up.
I have seen some seriously weak arguments from anti-2A people in this debate.However, attempting to besmirch the opinions of the Founding Fathers because of slavery is probably the worst.
yes i am besmirching them and praising them at the same time.
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Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:
I have seen some seriously weak arguments from anti-2A people in this debate.However, attempting to besmirch the opinions of the Founding Fathers because of slavery is probably the worst.
yes i am besmirching them and praising them at the same time.
I am not surprised that you could or would not connect the dots.
Can you really not see that by bringing into question the Foundering Fathers’ opinions on the 2nd Amendment because of slavery you are in fact bringing into question pretty much everything they ever did?
So do you also think the 1st Amendment is no longer relevant because the Founders’ owned slaves?Or are just the Amendments you don’t personally like rendered irrelevant because of slavery?
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Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1:
I am not surprised that you could or would not connect the dots.
Can you really not see that by bringing into question the Foundering Fathers’ opinions on the 2nd Amendment because of slavery you are in fact bringing into question pretty much everything they ever did?
So do you also think the 1st Amendment is no longer relevant because the Founders’ owned slaves?Or are just the Amendments you don’t personally like rendered irrelevant because of slavery?
Hey hoss one other thing,seriously,i would scrape together, beg and borrow every nickel that i could get my hands on to bet you that i was firing shotguns, 22's and a pistol that i cant recall, at tin cans a 2 cent soda bottles before you had a hair above your pecker.Maybe before you came outta the oven.Now am i veresed in todays weaponary.No, i grew up.
Whatever you say, Annie Oakley.
And it doesn’t take being well versed in today’s weaponry to know that semi-automatic “assault weapons” are NOT machine guns.Not being completely ignorant would probably be enough to know that.
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Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1:
Hey hoss one other thing,seriously,i would scrape together, beg and borrow every nickel that i could get my hands on to bet you that i was firing shotguns, 22's and a pistol that i cant recall, at tin cans a 2 cent soda bottles before you had a hair above your pecker.Maybe before you came outta the oven.Now am i veresed in todays weaponary.No, i grew up.
Whatever you say, Annie Oakley.
And it doesn’t take being well versed in today’s weaponry to know that semi-automatic “assault weapons” are NOT machine guns.Not being completely ignorant would probably be enough to know that.
Can you really not see that by bringing into question the Foundering Fathers’ opinions on the 2nd Amendment because of slavery you are in fact bringing into question pretty much everything they ever did?
So do you also think the 1st Amendment is no longer relevant because the Founders’ owned slaves?Or are just the Amendments you don’t personally like rendered irrelevant because of slavery?
Christ you are dense.You should learn how to read between the lines.boy
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Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:
Can you really not see that by bringing into question the Foundering Fathers’ opinions on the 2nd Amendment because of slavery you are in fact bringing into question pretty much everything they ever did?
So do you also think the 1st Amendment is no longer relevant because the Founders’ owned slaves?Or are just the Amendments you don’t personally like rendered irrelevant because of slavery?
Christ you are dense.You should learn how to read between the lines.boy
Can you really not see that by bringing into question the Foundering Fathers’ opinions on the 2nd Amendment because of slavery you are in fact bringing into question pretty much everything they ever did?
So do you also think the 1st Amendment is no longer relevant because the Founders’ owned slaves?Or are just the Amendments you don’t personally like rendered irrelevant because of slavery?
Lets see here, they were just a little bit off when it came to one person owning another person but yet knew that we would still be loading black powder 400 years latter.Now since you are a child and started and called me outta my name, like a child that you are may i suggest that you take your little wienner and go to bed.It's a little late for you baby as to be awake.
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Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:
Can you really not see that by bringing into question the Foundering Fathers’ opinions on the 2nd Amendment because of slavery you are in fact bringing into question pretty much everything they ever did?
So do you also think the 1st Amendment is no longer relevant because the Founders’ owned slaves?Or are just the Amendments you don’t personally like rendered irrelevant because of slavery?
Lets see here, they were just a little bit off when it came to one person owning another person but yet knew that we would still be loading black powder 400 years latter.Now since you are a child and started and called me outta my name, like a child that you are may i suggest that you take your little wienner and go to bed.It's a little late for you baby as to be awake.
So rather than respond to the numerous posts addressed to you, you’re just going to make posts consisting of nothing but random quotes you said.
Considering you can’t defend your point of view I suppose that’s to be expected.
I would say “feel free to prove me wrong by going back to those threads and doing just that,” but we both know you won’t.
Likewise, prove me wrong idiot. When you have firearms, in particular large magazine automatic weapons, in such abundance, that they are easily obtained by criminals, mentally ill persons, and ego maniacs such as yourself, society as a whole is at serious risk. Educate, train, conduct back ground checks, improve mental health recognition/treatment, ban large magazines, restrict assault weapon ownership and improve storage laws. You tell me why every clown should own a gun. I will wait for your answer. You tell me why the average citizen needs high capacity magazines. I will wait for your answer. You tell me what should be done to improve the safety of children and reduce mass shootings. I will wait for your answer.
So rather than respond to the numerous posts addressed to you, you’re just going to make posts consisting of nothing but random quotes you said.
Considering you can’t defend your point of view I suppose that’s to be expected.
I would say “feel free to prove me wrong by going back to those threads and doing just that,” but we both know you won’t.
Likewise, prove me wrong idiot. When you have firearms, in particular large magazine automatic weapons, in such abundance, that they are easily obtained by criminals, mentally ill persons, and ego maniacs such as yourself, society as a whole is at serious risk. Educate, train, conduct back ground checks, improve mental health recognition/treatment, ban large magazines, restrict assault weapon ownership and improve storage laws. You tell me why every clown should own a gun. I will wait for your answer. You tell me why the average citizen needs high capacity magazines. I will wait for your answer. You tell me what should be done to improve the safety of children and reduce mass shootings. I will wait for your answer.
“Lets see here, they were just a little bit off when it came to one person owning another person but yet knew that we would still be loading black powder 400 years latter.Now since you are a child and started and called me outta my name, like a child that you are may i suggest that you take your little wienner and go to bed.It's a little late for you baby as to be awake.”
So because the Founders “were just a little bit off when it came to one person owning another person” that means all their opinions and views are invalid?Well, I guess we better through the whole Bill of Rights out the window then because some of the Founders owned slaves.
When a person starts to behave like you in an otherwise civil conversation it’s pretty much a guarantee that they know they’ve lost the argument and are pissed off about it.
Also when a male randomly starts talking about the size of another man’s penis…
... not that there's anything wrong with that.
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“Lets see here, they were just a little bit off when it came to one person owning another person but yet knew that we would still be loading black powder 400 years latter.Now since you are a child and started and called me outta my name, like a child that you are may i suggest that you take your little wienner and go to bed.It's a little late for you baby as to be awake.”
So because the Founders “were just a little bit off when it came to one person owning another person” that means all their opinions and views are invalid?Well, I guess we better through the whole Bill of Rights out the window then because some of the Founders owned slaves.
When a person starts to behave like you in an otherwise civil conversation it’s pretty much a guarantee that they know they’ve lost the argument and are pissed off about it.
Also when a male randomly starts talking about the size of another man’s penis…
Allbutbroke, it seems the majority of gun related threads you’ve shared your stupidity in have seen people call you on your BS and then you slink away without addressing it.
You refused to respond to all those posts addressed to you, but now you demand I answer your questions.
Sorry, chuckles.You don’t get to completely blow off questions asked of you and then demand others answer yours.You want answers to your questions?Fine.Go back and address all those questions from other gun threads you couldn’t answer and I’d be happy to answer yours.
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Allbutbroke, it seems the majority of gun related threads you’ve shared your stupidity in have seen people call you on your BS and then you slink away without addressing it.
You refused to respond to all those posts addressed to you, but now you demand I answer your questions.
Sorry, chuckles.You don’t get to completely blow off questions asked of you and then demand others answer yours.You want answers to your questions?Fine.Go back and address all those questions from other gun threads you couldn’t answer and I’d be happy to answer yours.
the guy thinks he's always right and will never change his opinion ever."
Considering I’ve changed my opinion on abortion and the death penalty (doesn’t get much bigger than those two) I think it’s safe to say that statement is false.
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"why are you guys bothering?
the guy thinks he's always right and will never change his opinion ever."
Considering I’ve changed my opinion on abortion and the death penalty (doesn’t get much bigger than those two) I think it’s safe to say that statement is false.
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