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    High School Principal in Georiga has meltdown at graduation. We know what kind of 'meltdown' too!

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    skimordie
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    Posted: May. 12, 2015 - 11:44 PM ET #51

    Why is this national news?
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    Posted: May. 13, 2015 - 3:02 AM ET #52

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlJdPOkMa9k
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    Posted: May. 13, 2015 - 3:10 AM ET #53

    No response to anything I said I see...interesting

    I have never in my life seen someone write so many sentences yet say so little . Your abstract blabbering of fairytale
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    No response to anything I said I see...interesting

    I have never in my life seen someone write so many sentences yet say so little . Your abstract blabbering of fairytale
     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2015 - 3:14 AM ET #54

    Cont'd

    ...Fairytale humor is at a minimum trolling and at a maximum borderline psychotic is this is how your mind works . Do you ever just take a clear stance on anything without some bs story behind it of what others think?

    Surely in your twisted life at some point somebody turned to you and said "would you just get to the ****** point ???"
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    ...Fairytale humor is at a minimum trolling and at a maximum borderline psychotic is this is how your mind works . Do you ever just take a clear stance on anything without some bs story behind it of what others think?

    Surely in your twisted life at some point somebody turned to you and said "would you just get to the ****** point ???"
     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2015 - 3:19 AM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

     

    Ya see folks, not only is the principal batshi* crazy, so are posters in GD.

    But let's put them to the test.

    America...the grand experiment...where everyone moves vertically through hard work and dedication!!

    Let's all join hands and sing Cumbaya!!! What a story of America this guy is painting. Gosh, I get all warm and fuzzy inside when I hear stories like this.

    So in what year, according to you, did everyone get that 'fair shot' to more vertically Vern?

     

    Cue the Ralph Kramden of Honeymooners fame stammering...


    Humina Humina Humina!!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK9odsWwfIo

     

    He won't answer and if he does, he'll be evasive and won't give a year or say something to the effect of "Oh, so we're going back to slavery now???" which of course, I'm not doing.

     

    But anyhow, another day in GD with these hateful wastes of space. Nothing ever changes with 'em.

     

     I would say that there has been social equality, and opportunity for the vast majority of Americans that WANT IT for the last 40 years. Since 1975.

    Of course the key word here is you have to WANT to succeed and WORK hard for it. You should give it a shot Scal. America was the grand experiment.  

    Now, if you want to split hairs on equality and a "level playing field" in the present day US economy, then I could illustrate how the ObamaCare plan has destroyed small business with unmanageable insurance burdens, and penalties for not toeing the government line, but that argument  will fall on deaf ears.

    And, undoubtedly you will go to the google machine and start your patented avalanche of cherry picked statistics that will back up whatever view point you decide to go with that minute.......

    At the end of the day, you just don't get it.

    Never Make A Winner A Loser. Never.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

     

    Ya see folks, not only is the principal batshi* crazy, so are posters in GD.

    But let's put them to the test.

    America...the grand experiment...where everyone moves vertically through hard work and dedication!!

    Let's all join hands and sing Cumbaya!!! What a story of America this guy is painting. Gosh, I get all warm and fuzzy inside when I hear stories like this.

    So in what year, according to you, did everyone get that 'fair shot' to more vertically Vern?

     

    Cue the Ralph Kramden of Honeymooners fame stammering...


    Humina Humina Humina!!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK9odsWwfIo

     

    He won't answer and if he does, he'll be evasive and won't give a year or say something to the effect of "Oh, so we're going back to slavery now???" which of course, I'm not doing.

     

    But anyhow, another day in GD with these hateful wastes of space. Nothing ever changes with 'em.

     

     I would say that there has been social equality, and opportunity for the vast majority of Americans that WANT IT for the last 40 years. Since 1975.

    Of course the key word here is you have to WANT to succeed and WORK hard for it. You should give it a shot Scal. America was the grand experiment.  

    Now, if you want to split hairs on equality and a "level playing field" in the present day US economy, then I could illustrate how the ObamaCare plan has destroyed small business with unmanageable insurance burdens, and penalties for not toeing the government line, but that argument  will fall on deaf ears.

    And, undoubtedly you will go to the google machine and start your patented avalanche of cherry picked statistics that will back up whatever view point you decide to go with that minute.......

    At the end of the day, you just don't get it.

     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2015 - 9:53 AM ET #56

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

     

    See folks, this is how it works with bigots. Find an excuse and run with it.

    Because the principal is 'batshi* crazy', he thinks we should eliminate arguments from BOTH sides.

    Whatever she said, at a graduation, a graduation folks, a public ceremony celebrating education where friends and family gather in unison, well according to this raging bigot, just FORGET IT, because subsequent to this, the principal made comments about the devil.

    I mean, it's not unlike what our own ex-president said. Except he wasn't at a graduation. It was to go to WAR.

    Chirac recounts that the American leader appealed to their “common faith” (Christianity) and told him: “Gog and Magog are at work in the Middle East.... The biblical prophecies are being fulfilled.... This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people’s enemies before a New Age begins.”

    This bizarre episode occurred while the White House was assembling its “coalition of the willing” to unleash the Iraq invasion. Chirac says he was boggled by Bush’s call and “wondered how someone could be so superficial and fanatical in their beliefs.”

    But I'm sure he wouldn't classify Bush as 'crazy' now would he?

    But this lady....BATSHI* Crazy folks!

    Move on! Don't give those minorities or progressive minded individuals an INCH to complain or have grievances their stated. Beat em back ASAP!

    Why? Well she made a racist comment, and crazy or otherwise, now it's time for the bigots to come out in full force and somehow, someway, brush it under the rug.

    That's how they work. Their tricks? Old as time.

    Except there's one poster in GD who will have them expose themselves like a streaker in Times Square.

    And he's lookin' at ya right now...

     


    Yes, I've said repeatedly on this site that Bush was crazy and an idiot who changed the course of the world for the worse.   Do some homework when coming at me.   

    Not all of us bigots are the same 
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

     

    See folks, this is how it works with bigots. Find an excuse and run with it.

    Because the principal is 'batshi* crazy', he thinks we should eliminate arguments from BOTH sides.

    Whatever she said, at a graduation, a graduation folks, a public ceremony celebrating education where friends and family gather in unison, well according to this raging bigot, just FORGET IT, because subsequent to this, the principal made comments about the devil.

    I mean, it's not unlike what our own ex-president said. Except he wasn't at a graduation. It was to go to WAR.

    Chirac recounts that the American leader appealed to their “common faith” (Christianity) and told him: “Gog and Magog are at work in the Middle East.... The biblical prophecies are being fulfilled.... This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people’s enemies before a New Age begins.”

    This bizarre episode occurred while the White House was assembling its “coalition of the willing” to unleash the Iraq invasion. Chirac says he was boggled by Bush’s call and “wondered how someone could be so superficial and fanatical in their beliefs.”

    But I'm sure he wouldn't classify Bush as 'crazy' now would he?

    But this lady....BATSHI* Crazy folks!

    Move on! Don't give those minorities or progressive minded individuals an INCH to complain or have grievances their stated. Beat em back ASAP!

    Why? Well she made a racist comment, and crazy or otherwise, now it's time for the bigots to come out in full force and somehow, someway, brush it under the rug.

    That's how they work. Their tricks? Old as time.

    Except there's one poster in GD who will have them expose themselves like a streaker in Times Square.

    And he's lookin' at ya right now...

     


    Yes, I've said repeatedly on this site that Bush was crazy and an idiot who changed the course of the world for the worse.   Do some homework when coming at me.   

    Not all of us bigots are the same 
     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2015 - 11:29 AM ET #57


    "Move on! Don't give those minorities or progressive minded individuals an INCH to complain or have grievances their stated. Beat em back ASAP"!

    This is exactly the type of statement that makes you lose all credibility. Even people that agree that this woman made a racist comment and looks like a fool still isn't enough.

    WTF do you want from people?  I would love to hear what you think this woman should face for punishment?

    For crying out loud, black people don't whine as much as you do.
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    "Move on! Don't give those minorities or progressive minded individuals an INCH to complain or have grievances their stated. Beat em back ASAP"!

    This is exactly the type of statement that makes you lose all credibility. Even people that agree that this woman made a racist comment and looks like a fool still isn't enough.

    WTF do you want from people?  I would love to hear what you think this woman should face for punishment?

    For crying out loud, black people don't whine as much as you do.
     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2015 - 8:30 AM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by VegasVandal:

    So what exactly is your point scal? Yes it's a video of a white racist lady making a racist remark.  people are bigots. We get it. What exactly are you trying to accomplish here? Are you just trying to reinforce your opinion that blacks are treated unfairly by cops and society as a whole? propaganda for support of riots that try to bring light to the unfair treatment that blacks are forced to endure on a daily basis?

    Because to me it seems to me you are insinuating that all white people have this same mindset toward blacks and this is you expressing your frustration toward this belief.

    Help me understand where I went wrong here

     

    No response. Yeah...How about the possibility I didn't deem any of your questions worth my time? And they are not. But I'll throw a bone on occasion...

    If you read the OP, this is more about the hierarchy of race than it is about a flippant and wildly disrespectful racist comment itself.

    Not only did this woman try to shame one black person with her comment, she tried to do what the bigots on here and everywhere do; assign blame to ALL blacks for the sins/crimes of a few (and in this case, the CRIME was leaving a ceremony the bigot dismissed them from).

    And it is remarkable in that it is done on a microphone at a graduation in front of all friends, family, relatives etc.

    When she's called out on it? The devil made her do it!

    She absolves herself by pointing her finger on a deity but her larger message is not lost:

    Know your place when I speak to you!

    And for that, the racial hierarchy exposed, the pomposity, the environment she did it in...that Vegas, is what makes it news. Everything not bolded has been disregarded since it is not inflammatory on my part, but your part.

    And if you don't understand that, find a toilet to stick your head in and hit the handle while you gargle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasVandal:

    So what exactly is your point scal? Yes it's a video of a white racist lady making a racist remark.  people are bigots. We get it. What exactly are you trying to accomplish here? Are you just trying to reinforce your opinion that blacks are treated unfairly by cops and society as a whole? propaganda for support of riots that try to bring light to the unfair treatment that blacks are forced to endure on a daily basis?

    Because to me it seems to me you are insinuating that all white people have this same mindset toward blacks and this is you expressing your frustration toward this belief.

    Help me understand where I went wrong here

     

    No response. Yeah...How about the possibility I didn't deem any of your questions worth my time? And they are not. But I'll throw a bone on occasion...

    If you read the OP, this is more about the hierarchy of race than it is about a flippant and wildly disrespectful racist comment itself.

    Not only did this woman try to shame one black person with her comment, she tried to do what the bigots on here and everywhere do; assign blame to ALL blacks for the sins/crimes of a few (and in this case, the CRIME was leaving a ceremony the bigot dismissed them from).

    And it is remarkable in that it is done on a microphone at a graduation in front of all friends, family, relatives etc.

    When she's called out on it? The devil made her do it!

    She absolves herself by pointing her finger on a deity but her larger message is not lost:

    Know your place when I speak to you!

    And for that, the racial hierarchy exposed, the pomposity, the environment she did it in...that Vegas, is what makes it news. Everything not bolded has been disregarded since it is not inflammatory on my part, but your part.

    And if you don't understand that, find a toilet to stick your head in and hit the handle while you gargle.

     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2015 - 8:42 AM ET #59

    Quote Originally Posted by bigvern1013:

     I would say that there has been social equality, and opportunity for the vast majority of Americans that WANT IT for the last 40 years. Since 1975.

    Of course the key word here is you have to WANT to succeed and WORK hard for it. You should give it a shot Scal. America was the grand experiment.  

    Now, if you want to split hairs on equality and a "level playing field" in the present day US economy, then I could illustrate how the ObamaCare plan has destroyed small business with unmanageable insurance burdens, and penalties for not toeing the government line, but that argument  will fall on deaf ears.

    And, undoubtedly you will go to the google machine and start your patented avalanche of cherry picked statistics that will back up whatever view point you decide to go with that minute.......

    At the end of the day, you just don't get it.

    I ....just don't get it. Well, let's see what you get since I'll use your words and have you back them up.

    1975!!!

    Wow. What a year!

    So let's start with that. So a significant numbers of minorities who today who are alive, and around ages 30 to 40, some of their prime working years, had parents who were not given equal opportunity or access to the now touted 'grand experiment' (as though this is supposed to invoke warm and fuzzy feelings of success in the gut).

    So let's see, wouldn't that effect the environments - towns, cities, schools, communities - the parents raised their children in, who you just admitted did NOT have equal access by default, to said grand experiment, since well, they were raised in a world before 1975?

    And what are you?  Are you a product of the world your parents came from?

    What if your parents were raised in a world of unequal access and worst of all, not only societal, but government-sactioned racism??

    How would your life be different? What would the outcomes be as a whole for those who are children of a mere generation removed from again, GOVERMENT sanctioned racism???

    Or were you like Moses, a baby in a basket and sent floating down the Nile, making it all on your own. Maybe wolves would have raised you and one day you struck it rich by selling your internet start-up.

    1975 folks...

    That is the time to shine for blacks in America. Why? Well he says so!

    Everything that happened before that? Including the very parents who lived through all the unequal access and virulent racism prior to 1975??

    Let's just ignore all that for now!

    Because if we acknowledge it, we lose that warm and fuzzy feeling in our tummies.  

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     I would say that there has been social equality, and opportunity for the vast majority of Americans that WANT IT for the last 40 years. Since 1975.

    Of course the key word here is you have to WANT to succeed and WORK hard for it. You should give it a shot Scal. America was the grand experiment.  

    Now, if you want to split hairs on equality and a "level playing field" in the present day US economy, then I could illustrate how the ObamaCare plan has destroyed small business with unmanageable insurance burdens, and penalties for not toeing the government line, but that argument  will fall on deaf ears.

    And, undoubtedly you will go to the google machine and start your patented avalanche of cherry picked statistics that will back up whatever view point you decide to go with that minute.......

    At the end of the day, you just don't get it.

    I ....just don't get it. Well, let's see what you get since I'll use your words and have you back them up.

    1975!!!

    Wow. What a year!

    So let's start with that. So a significant numbers of minorities who today who are alive, and around ages 30 to 40, some of their prime working years, had parents who were not given equal opportunity or access to the now touted 'grand experiment' (as though this is supposed to invoke warm and fuzzy feelings of success in the gut).

    So let's see, wouldn't that effect the environments - towns, cities, schools, communities - the parents raised their children in, who you just admitted did NOT have equal access by default, to said grand experiment, since well, they were raised in a world before 1975?

    And what are you?  Are you a product of the world your parents came from?

    What if your parents were raised in a world of unequal access and worst of all, not only societal, but government-sactioned racism??

    How would your life be different? What would the outcomes be as a whole for those who are children of a mere generation removed from again, GOVERMENT sanctioned racism???

    Or were you like Moses, a baby in a basket and sent floating down the Nile, making it all on your own. Maybe wolves would have raised you and one day you struck it rich by selling your internet start-up.

    1975 folks...

    That is the time to shine for blacks in America. Why? Well he says so!

    Everything that happened before that? Including the very parents who lived through all the unequal access and virulent racism prior to 1975??

    Let's just ignore all that for now!

    Because if we acknowledge it, we lose that warm and fuzzy feeling in our tummies.  

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    I ....just don't get it. Well, let's see what you get since I'll use your words and have you back them up.

    1975!!!

    Wow. What a year!

    So let's start with that. So a significant numbers of minorities who today who are alive, and around ages 30 to 40, some of their prime working years, had parents who were not given equal opportunity or access to the now touted 'grand experiment' (as though this is supposed to invoke warm and fuzzy feelings of success in the gut).

    So let's see, wouldn't that effect the environments - towns, cities, schools, communities - the parents raised their children in, who you just admitted did NOT have equal access by default, to said grand experiment, since well, they were raised in a world before 1975?

    And what are you?  Are you a product of the world your parents came from?

    What if your parents were raised in a world of unequal access and worst of all, not only societal, but government-sactioned racism??

    How would your life be different? What would the outcomes be as a whole for those who are children of a mere generation removed from again, GOVERMENT sanctioned racism???

    Or were you like Moses, a baby in a basket and sent floating down the Nile, making it all on your own. Maybe wolves would have raised you and one day you struck it rich by selling your internet start-up.

    1975 folks...

    That is the time to shine for blacks in America. Why? Well he says so!

    Everything that happened before that? Including the very parents who lived through all the unequal access and virulent racism prior to 1975??

    Let's just ignore all that for now!

    Because if we acknowledge it, we lose that warm and fuzzy feeling in our tummies.  

    You asked for an exact year, so I gave you one. 1975.

    The truth is, it wouldn't have mattered what year that I gave you....your argument is that given the "environment" in which someone starts their life, absolutely dictates where they end up.

    So, inevitably, it is an impossibility to ever improve yours or your family's lives.  The past dictates future. 

    Well, if it is impossible to ever improve one's circumstance due to uneven conditions present surrounding one's birth, then the whole argument is moot. 

    I guess Scal has adopted his own "caste" system based on race and socio-economic factors for America in 2015.....sort of shoots a hole in the "Hope and Change" mantra.

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    I ....just don't get it. Well, let's see what you get since I'll use your words and have you back them up.

    1975!!!

    Wow. What a year!

    So let's start with that. So a significant numbers of minorities who today who are alive, and around ages 30 to 40, some of their prime working years, had parents who were not given equal opportunity or access to the now touted 'grand experiment' (as though this is supposed to invoke warm and fuzzy feelings of success in the gut).

    So let's see, wouldn't that effect the environments - towns, cities, schools, communities - the parents raised their children in, who you just admitted did NOT have equal access by default, to said grand experiment, since well, they were raised in a world before 1975?

    And what are you?  Are you a product of the world your parents came from?

    What if your parents were raised in a world of unequal access and worst of all, not only societal, but government-sactioned racism??

    How would your life be different? What would the outcomes be as a whole for those who are children of a mere generation removed from again, GOVERMENT sanctioned racism???

    Or were you like Moses, a baby in a basket and sent floating down the Nile, making it all on your own. Maybe wolves would have raised you and one day you struck it rich by selling your internet start-up.

    1975 folks...

    That is the time to shine for blacks in America. Why? Well he says so!

    Everything that happened before that? Including the very parents who lived through all the unequal access and virulent racism prior to 1975??

    Let's just ignore all that for now!

    Because if we acknowledge it, we lose that warm and fuzzy feeling in our tummies.  

    You asked for an exact year, so I gave you one. 1975.

    The truth is, it wouldn't have mattered what year that I gave you....your argument is that given the "environment" in which someone starts their life, absolutely dictates where they end up.

    So, inevitably, it is an impossibility to ever improve yours or your family's lives.  The past dictates future. 

    Well, if it is impossible to ever improve one's circumstance due to uneven conditions present surrounding one's birth, then the whole argument is moot. 

    I guess Scal has adopted his own "caste" system based on race and socio-economic factors for America in 2015.....sort of shoots a hole in the "Hope and Change" mantra.

     
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    Source: FBI.gov

    Topic:  murders in 2013 in the US.  The latest reporting year.

    Whites murdering blacks.    189
    Blacks murdering whites.     409

    Conclusion: Whitey is racist.  Get out the broom and sweep these FACTS away.  They will just get in the way of a good progressive rant. We all HOPED this would CHANGE but it still seems to be same ole same ole.  The only thing left is to bow our heads and pray with Rev. Wright.
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    Topic:  murders in 2013 in the US.  The latest reporting year.

    Whites murdering blacks.    189
    Blacks murdering whites.     409

    Conclusion: Whitey is racist.  Get out the broom and sweep these FACTS away.  They will just get in the way of a good progressive rant. We all HOPED this would CHANGE but it still seems to be same ole same ole.  The only thing left is to bow our heads and pray with Rev. Wright.
     
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    It's time to move on folks...............

    It is apparent we didn't condemn this hillbilly woman properly.  It is obvious we were all unaware of the proper protocol.  Accept the fact that you are all racists and bigots.  The self appointed Chief of Racial Inequality has spoken.................

    Your penance, read all of the Jets write ups for the upcoming 2015-2016 football season.
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    It's time to move on folks...............

    It is apparent we didn't condemn this hillbilly woman properly.  It is obvious we were all unaware of the proper protocol.  Accept the fact that you are all racists and bigots.  The self appointed Chief of Racial Inequality has spoken.................

    Your penance, read all of the Jets write ups for the upcoming 2015-2016 football season.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bettingforfun:

    It's time to move on folks...............

    It is apparent we didn't condemn this hillbilly woman properly.  It is obvious we were all unaware of the proper protocol.  Accept the fact that you are all racists and bigots.  The self appointed Chief of Racial Inequality has spoken.................

    Your penance, read all of the Jets write ups for the upcoming 2015-2016 football season.

    Until proven otherwise, the Jets stink.

    It shouldn't take Scalabrine much more than 20 or 30 pages of analysis to come to that conclusion.

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    It's time to move on folks...............

    It is apparent we didn't condemn this hillbilly woman properly.  It is obvious we were all unaware of the proper protocol.  Accept the fact that you are all racists and bigots.  The self appointed Chief of Racial Inequality has spoken.................

    Your penance, read all of the Jets write ups for the upcoming 2015-2016 football season.

    Until proven otherwise, the Jets stink.

    It shouldn't take Scalabrine much more than 20 or 30 pages of analysis to come to that conclusion.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigvern1013:

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:



    I ....just don't get it. Well, let's see what you get since I'll use your words and have you back them up.
    1975!!!
    Wow. What a year!
    So let's start with that. So a significant numbers of minorities who today who are alive, and around ages 30 to 40, some of their prime working years, had parents who were not given equal opportunity or access to the now touted 'grand experiment' (as though this is supposed to invoke warm and fuzzy feelings of success in the gut).
    So let's see, wouldn't that effect the environments - towns, cities, schools, communities - the parents raised their children in, who you just admitted did NOT have equal access by default, to said grand experiment, since well, they were raised in a world before 1975?
    And what are you?  Are you a product of the world your parents came from?
    What if your parents were raised in a world of unequal access and worst of all, not only societal, but government-sactioned racism??
    How would your life be different? What would the outcomes be as a whole for those who are children of a mere generation removed from again, GOVERMENT sanctioned racism???
    Or were you like Moses, a baby in a basket and sent floating down the Nile, making it all on your own. Maybe wolves would have raised you and one day you struck it rich by selling your internet start-up.
    1975 folks...
    That is the time to shine for blacks in America. Why? Well he says so!
    Everything that happened before that? Including the very parents who lived through all the unequal access and virulent racism prior to 1975??
    Let's just ignore all that for now!
    Because if we acknowledge it, we lose that warm and fuzzy feeling in our tummies.  

    You asked for an exact year, so I gave you one. 1975.
    The truth is, it wouldn't have mattered what year that I gave you....your argument is that given the "environment" in which someone starts their life, absolutely dictates where they end up.
    So, inevitably, it is an impossibility to ever improve yours or your family's lives.  The past dictates future. 
    Well, if it is impossible to ever improve one's circumstance due to uneven conditions present surrounding one's birth, then the whole argument is moot. 
    I guess Scal has adopted his own "caste" system based on race and socio-economic factors for America in 2015.....sort of shoots a hole in the "Hope and Change" mantra.



    Well folks, I told you the GD nitwits are UAU.

    Unwilling

    And

    Unable

    to comprehend much of anything I say.

    And I said (and I'll now elaborate) through my examples, and even through a direct question, where would Vern be if his parents were raised in a world of state sanctioned racism and virulent societal racism prior to 1975, and moreover, what would the overall outcomes be for the millions of blacks today who had parents who lived in that era, who had parents who most certainly did not have access to the so-called warm and fuzzy Grand Experiment, who had parents who therefore didn't have the livelihood, resources, education or community to live in that his parents COULD have, given that it was directly denied to them and moreover, how would their children be at a disadvantage compared to everyone who had parents didn't go through that, JUST for being black (other races apply here too)???

    I hope that made it clear, but with posters like Vern, there is a 0% chance of that.

    Did he answer me?

    Yes!

    He thinks I said 'past dictates future'.

    And this folks, is why I'd don't argued with the UAU's of GD. It's not worth my time. I slap them up digitally and move on.

    Onto the next idiot to raise a meaningless and misinterpreted point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigvern1013:

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:



    I ....just don't get it. Well, let's see what you get since I'll use your words and have you back them up.
    1975!!!
    Wow. What a year!
    So let's start with that. So a significant numbers of minorities who today who are alive, and around ages 30 to 40, some of their prime working years, had parents who were not given equal opportunity or access to the now touted 'grand experiment' (as though this is supposed to invoke warm and fuzzy feelings of success in the gut).
    So let's see, wouldn't that effect the environments - towns, cities, schools, communities - the parents raised their children in, who you just admitted did NOT have equal access by default, to said grand experiment, since well, they were raised in a world before 1975?
    And what are you?  Are you a product of the world your parents came from?
    What if your parents were raised in a world of unequal access and worst of all, not only societal, but government-sactioned racism??
    How would your life be different? What would the outcomes be as a whole for those who are children of a mere generation removed from again, GOVERMENT sanctioned racism???
    Or were you like Moses, a baby in a basket and sent floating down the Nile, making it all on your own. Maybe wolves would have raised you and one day you struck it rich by selling your internet start-up.
    1975 folks...
    That is the time to shine for blacks in America. Why? Well he says so!
    Everything that happened before that? Including the very parents who lived through all the unequal access and virulent racism prior to 1975??
    Let's just ignore all that for now!
    Because if we acknowledge it, we lose that warm and fuzzy feeling in our tummies.  

    You asked for an exact year, so I gave you one. 1975.
    The truth is, it wouldn't have mattered what year that I gave you....your argument is that given the "environment" in which someone starts their life, absolutely dictates where they end up.
    So, inevitably, it is an impossibility to ever improve yours or your family's lives.  The past dictates future. 
    Well, if it is impossible to ever improve one's circumstance due to uneven conditions present surrounding one's birth, then the whole argument is moot. 
    I guess Scal has adopted his own "caste" system based on race and socio-economic factors for America in 2015.....sort of shoots a hole in the "Hope and Change" mantra.



    Well folks, I told you the GD nitwits are UAU.

    Unwilling

    And

    Unable

    to comprehend much of anything I say.

    And I said (and I'll now elaborate) through my examples, and even through a direct question, where would Vern be if his parents were raised in a world of state sanctioned racism and virulent societal racism prior to 1975, and moreover, what would the overall outcomes be for the millions of blacks today who had parents who lived in that era, who had parents who most certainly did not have access to the so-called warm and fuzzy Grand Experiment, who had parents who therefore didn't have the livelihood, resources, education or community to live in that his parents COULD have, given that it was directly denied to them and moreover, how would their children be at a disadvantage compared to everyone who had parents didn't go through that, JUST for being black (other races apply here too)???

    I hope that made it clear, but with posters like Vern, there is a 0% chance of that.

    Did he answer me?

    Yes!

    He thinks I said 'past dictates future'.

    And this folks, is why I'd don't argued with the UAU's of GD. It's not worth my time. I slap them up digitally and move on.

    Onto the next idiot to raise a meaningless and misinterpreted point.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    You asked for an exact year, so I gave you one. 1975.
    The truth is, it wouldn't have mattered what year that I gave you....your argument is that given the "environment" in which someone starts their life, absolutely dictates where they end up.
    So, inevitably, it is an impossibility to ever improve yours or your family's lives.  The past dictates future. 
    Well, if it is impossible to ever improve one's circumstance due to uneven conditions present surrounding one's birth, then the whole argument is moot. 
    I guess Scal has adopted his own "caste" system based on race and socio-economic factors for America in 2015.....sort of shoots a hole in the "Hope and Change" mantra.


    Well folks, I told you the GD nitwits are UAU.

    Unwilling

    And

    Unable

    to comprehend much of anything I say.

    And I said (and I'll now elaborate) through my examples, and even through a direct question, where would Vern be if his parents were raised in a world of state sanctioned racism and virulent societal racism prior to 1975, and moreover, what would the overall outcomes be for the millions of blacks today who had parents who lived in that era, who had parents who most certainly did not have access to the so-called warm and fuzzy Grand Experiment, who had parents who therefore didn't have the livelihood, resources, education or community to live in that his parents COULD have, given that it was directly denied to them and moreover, how would their children be at a disadvantage compared to everyone who had parents didn't go through that, JUST for being black (other races apply here too)???

    I hope that made it clear, but with posters like Vern, there is a 0% chance of that.

    Did he answer me?

    Yes!

    He thinks I said 'past dictates future'.

    And this folks, is why I'd don't argued with the UAU's of GD. It's not worth my time. I slap them up digitally and move on.

    Onto the next idiot to raise a meaningless and misinterpreted point.

    At the risk of sounding a bit on the arrogant side, I am reasonably certain that I understand your argument with a great deal of accuracy.

    The argument that you make is that one's socio-economic surroundings and background as an adolescent have a great impact on one's entire life.

    I get it. The biggest challenge that I am having with this conversation is comprehending just why YOU think that the ideas outlined in your argument are so grandiose, and impossible for a poster in the General Discussion forum to grasp......

    In closing, I will leave you with the following scenario to illustrate my argument as the US being the "grand experiment". 

    Imagine you were born as a lower class citizen in India. They are referred to as "untouchables" in their culture, and have been for a thousand years. There is absolutely no way to move up.....the only way to deal with the reality of never ending poverty, and despair is to put faith in devices such as reincarnation, or some sort of heaven upon departure from this plane.

    The US was a place where no matter how bad the situation was when you were born, you still had a shot to change your life. It may not have been as good of a shot as the guy's across the street, or the youngest Kardashian sister's was, but it was still a shot. 80% of recorded human history would kill for the average American's shot.

    That is what you don't get...and you never will get it. The sad part is that I typed the previous paragraph in the past tense.....I did that, because guys like Scal would rather tear down the achievers in an attempt to boost the disenfranchised. Our current government is from the Scalabrine school of thought, and that is a tough pill to swallow. 

    If there is no incentive to achieve, then mediocrity reigns, and the few will rule the many.

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    You asked for an exact year, so I gave you one. 1975.
    The truth is, it wouldn't have mattered what year that I gave you....your argument is that given the "environment" in which someone starts their life, absolutely dictates where they end up.
    So, inevitably, it is an impossibility to ever improve yours or your family's lives.  The past dictates future. 
    Well, if it is impossible to ever improve one's circumstance due to uneven conditions present surrounding one's birth, then the whole argument is moot. 
    I guess Scal has adopted his own "caste" system based on race and socio-economic factors for America in 2015.....sort of shoots a hole in the "Hope and Change" mantra.


    Well folks, I told you the GD nitwits are UAU.

    Unwilling

    And

    Unable

    to comprehend much of anything I say.

    And I said (and I'll now elaborate) through my examples, and even through a direct question, where would Vern be if his parents were raised in a world of state sanctioned racism and virulent societal racism prior to 1975, and moreover, what would the overall outcomes be for the millions of blacks today who had parents who lived in that era, who had parents who most certainly did not have access to the so-called warm and fuzzy Grand Experiment, who had parents who therefore didn't have the livelihood, resources, education or community to live in that his parents COULD have, given that it was directly denied to them and moreover, how would their children be at a disadvantage compared to everyone who had parents didn't go through that, JUST for being black (other races apply here too)???

    I hope that made it clear, but with posters like Vern, there is a 0% chance of that.

    Did he answer me?

    Yes!

    He thinks I said 'past dictates future'.

    And this folks, is why I'd don't argued with the UAU's of GD. It's not worth my time. I slap them up digitally and move on.

    Onto the next idiot to raise a meaningless and misinterpreted point.

    At the risk of sounding a bit on the arrogant side, I am reasonably certain that I understand your argument with a great deal of accuracy.

    The argument that you make is that one's socio-economic surroundings and background as an adolescent have a great impact on one's entire life.

    I get it. The biggest challenge that I am having with this conversation is comprehending just why YOU think that the ideas outlined in your argument are so grandiose, and impossible for a poster in the General Discussion forum to grasp......

    In closing, I will leave you with the following scenario to illustrate my argument as the US being the "grand experiment". 

    Imagine you were born as a lower class citizen in India. They are referred to as "untouchables" in their culture, and have been for a thousand years. There is absolutely no way to move up.....the only way to deal with the reality of never ending poverty, and despair is to put faith in devices such as reincarnation, or some sort of heaven upon departure from this plane.

    The US was a place where no matter how bad the situation was when you were born, you still had a shot to change your life. It may not have been as good of a shot as the guy's across the street, or the youngest Kardashian sister's was, but it was still a shot. 80% of recorded human history would kill for the average American's shot.

    That is what you don't get...and you never will get it. The sad part is that I typed the previous paragraph in the past tense.....I did that, because guys like Scal would rather tear down the achievers in an attempt to boost the disenfranchised. Our current government is from the Scalabrine school of thought, and that is a tough pill to swallow. 

    If there is no incentive to achieve, then mediocrity reigns, and the few will rule the many.

     
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    So Scal, whats the solution for the black community to erase stereotypes and advance as a people? I'm sure you would agree looting and rioting are not helping their cause. I'm aware white have the advantage in life (school, money, jobs etc).....So, what can blacks do?

     

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    So Scal, whats the solution for the black community to erase stereotypes and advance as a people? I'm sure you would agree looting and rioting are not helping their cause. I'm aware white have the advantage in life (school, money, jobs etc).....So, what can blacks do?

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slovak:



    And people wonder why this 13% of the population gets stereotyped and profiled.


     

    And people wonder why I consider you one of the biggest lowlifes on covers.

    Because whenever you see race bait, you bite like a large-mouth bass who's never seen a worm.

    Ya gotta love when statistics are skewed in favor of idiots.

    In 2010 there were about 15,000 murders in the US. I'd say the pattern was relatively stable in 2013 so we'll say it was 'around that' number in 2013.

    And 409 black on white murders is less than 3% of all murders.

    189 is about half that and less than 1.5% of all all murders.

    Is this significant in relation to all murders? No.

    But people like Slovak and Bettting, using it so they can continually defame the black race in every and any way, look at all those murders as HATE crimes, but only with regard to he black on white murders of course.

    What's remarkable is that those numbers don't represent the true number of the types of murders in question, and the murders that are completely absolved as such: cops killing (and don't forget injuring) minorities and blacks.

    Of course, these aren't murders at all...well because they are scrubbed from the roles. Police? Well in virtually EVERY case, unless the ENTIRE incident is caught on tape, they are not murders (and even if caught on tape it's likely not a murder!).

    Anything else? No. I didn't think so. But you see, bigots love proportions and ratios! When the numbers don't work in their favor? Just say, 'LOOK what Blacks did is more than doubly bad' (and yes it comes out mangles like that from their mouths).

    More UAU's pulling shi* out of their a**.

     

    And on and on and on...what a joke...after all these years.

     

    Train,

    Shut up.

    Who the hell are you to address 'blacks' as though they are one uniform mass? Same shi*...different day with you. Grow up...in your mindset and in life.

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    And people wonder why this 13% of the population gets stereotyped and profiled.


     

    And people wonder why I consider you one of the biggest lowlifes on covers.

    Because whenever you see race bait, you bite like a large-mouth bass who's never seen a worm.

    Ya gotta love when statistics are skewed in favor of idiots.

    In 2010 there were about 15,000 murders in the US. I'd say the pattern was relatively stable in 2013 so we'll say it was 'around that' number in 2013.

    And 409 black on white murders is less than 3% of all murders.

    189 is about half that and less than 1.5% of all all murders.

    Is this significant in relation to all murders? No.

    But people like Slovak and Bettting, using it so they can continually defame the black race in every and any way, look at all those murders as HATE crimes, but only with regard to he black on white murders of course.

    What's remarkable is that those numbers don't represent the true number of the types of murders in question, and the murders that are completely absolved as such: cops killing (and don't forget injuring) minorities and blacks.

    Of course, these aren't murders at all...well because they are scrubbed from the roles. Police? Well in virtually EVERY case, unless the ENTIRE incident is caught on tape, they are not murders (and even if caught on tape it's likely not a murder!).

    Anything else? No. I didn't think so. But you see, bigots love proportions and ratios! When the numbers don't work in their favor? Just say, 'LOOK what Blacks did is more than doubly bad' (and yes it comes out mangles like that from their mouths).

    More UAU's pulling shi* out of their a**.

     

    And on and on and on...what a joke...after all these years.

     

    Train,

    Shut up.

    Who the hell are you to address 'blacks' as though they are one uniform mass? Same shi*...different day with you. Grow up...in your mindset and in life.

     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2015 - 12:38 AM ET #68

    I can't be the only one that notices this...............

    The majority of progressive blacks are unhappy and the conservative blacks seem much happier.  Progressive blacks got the President they wanted seeing that well over 90% of them voted for him.  Yet still, they are unhappier than they have ever been.  They were promised hope and change and it never came.  The ironic thing is they will be standing in line for more of the same when they vote for Hillary.  

    Hope and change comes when they stop listening to the progressive white liberal media.  

    I will sum this up with this.................

    If you could choose between Al Sharpton or Condelezza Rice as your child's commencement speaker who would you choose?  Both considered black leaders.  Both are speakers.  I have listened to Rice speak in person twice and heard Sharpton on TV many times.  One has a positive message and the other a negative.  Gee, I wonder who is the positive one.

    Rice in 2016.  Hey, a white guy can dream can't he.




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    I can't be the only one that notices this...............

    The majority of progressive blacks are unhappy and the conservative blacks seem much happier.  Progressive blacks got the President they wanted seeing that well over 90% of them voted for him.  Yet still, they are unhappier than they have ever been.  They were promised hope and change and it never came.  The ironic thing is they will be standing in line for more of the same when they vote for Hillary.  

    Hope and change comes when they stop listening to the progressive white liberal media.  

    I will sum this up with this.................

    If you could choose between Al Sharpton or Condelezza Rice as your child's commencement speaker who would you choose?  Both considered black leaders.  Both are speakers.  I have listened to Rice speak in person twice and heard Sharpton on TV many times.  One has a positive message and the other a negative.  Gee, I wonder who is the positive one.

    Rice in 2016.  Hey, a white guy can dream can't he.




     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2015 - 12:49 AM ET #69

    What is the percentage of white cops killing blacks in relation to overall murders?

    And 409 black on white murders is less than 3% of all murders.

    189 is about half that and less than 1.5% of all all murders.

    Is this significant in relation to all murders? No.

    I know I won't get an answer but it's still fun to ask.  Will it be a significant number?  NO
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    What is the percentage of white cops killing blacks in relation to overall murders?

    And 409 black on white murders is less than 3% of all murders.

    189 is about half that and less than 1.5% of all all murders.

    Is this significant in relation to all murders? No.

    I know I won't get an answer but it's still fun to ask.  Will it be a significant number?  NO
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2015 - 1:57 AM ET #70

    Amazing typing.

    Do you talk a lot to people in real life? I'd  that out. Steer clear of this dude.

     

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    Amazing typing.

    Do you talk a lot to people in real life? I'd  that out. Steer clear of this dude.

     

     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2015 - 1:59 AM ET #71

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

     

    And people wonder why I consider you one of the biggest lowlifes on covers.

    Because whenever you see race bait, you bite like a large-mouth bass who's never seen a worm.

    Ya gotta love when statistics are skewed in favor of idiots.

    In 2010 there were about 15,000 murders in the US. I'd say the pattern was relatively stable in 2013 so we'll say it was 'around that' number in 2013.

    And 409 black on white murders is less than 3% of all murders.

    189 is about half that and less than 1.5% of all all murders.

    Is this significant in relation to all murders? No.

    But people like Slovak and Bettting, using it so they can continually defame the black race in every and any way, look at all those murders as HATE crimes, but only with regard to he black on white murders of course.

    What's remarkable is that those numbers don't represent the true number of the types of murders in question, and the murders that are completely absolved as such: cops killing (and don't forget injuring) minorities and blacks.

    Of course, these aren't murders at all...well because they are scrubbed from the roles. Police? Well in virtually EVERY case, unless the ENTIRE incident is caught on tape, they are not murders (and even if caught on tape it's likely not a murder!).

    Anything else? No. I didn't think so. But you see, bigots love proportions and ratios! When the numbers don't work in their favor? Just say, 'LOOK what Blacks did is more than doubly bad' (and yes it comes out mangles like that from their mouths).

    More UAU's pulling shi* out of their a**.

     

    And on and on and on...what a joke...after all these years.

     

    Train,

    Shut up.

    Who the hell are you to address 'blacks' as though they are one uniform mass? Same shi*...different day with you. Grow up...in your mindset and in life.

    Huh?I ask a legit question and you wanna talk semantics? Who are you to not address the issue that all black ARE one uniform mass.....according to you and racists.

    I ask how does that change. You say " Shut up."

    Grow up? Me? I dont usually hear grown folk sayin shut up while avoiding a question they cant answer but love to talk about what leads up to it.....blacks get a raw deal...its not their fault!!!!!

    How do we fix it/make it better?

    A: Shut up.


    Interesting you think Im the one that needs a mindset change. I'll continue living a non naive and intelligent life....you keep doin what youre doin....makes me feel good about myself. 
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    And people wonder why I consider you one of the biggest lowlifes on covers.

    Because whenever you see race bait, you bite like a large-mouth bass who's never seen a worm.

    Ya gotta love when statistics are skewed in favor of idiots.

    In 2010 there were about 15,000 murders in the US. I'd say the pattern was relatively stable in 2013 so we'll say it was 'around that' number in 2013.

    And 409 black on white murders is less than 3% of all murders.

    189 is about half that and less than 1.5% of all all murders.

    Is this significant in relation to all murders? No.

    But people like Slovak and Bettting, using it so they can continually defame the black race in every and any way, look at all those murders as HATE crimes, but only with regard to he black on white murders of course.

    What's remarkable is that those numbers don't represent the true number of the types of murders in question, and the murders that are completely absolved as such: cops killing (and don't forget injuring) minorities and blacks.

    Of course, these aren't murders at all...well because they are scrubbed from the roles. Police? Well in virtually EVERY case, unless the ENTIRE incident is caught on tape, they are not murders (and even if caught on tape it's likely not a murder!).

    Anything else? No. I didn't think so. But you see, bigots love proportions and ratios! When the numbers don't work in their favor? Just say, 'LOOK what Blacks did is more than doubly bad' (and yes it comes out mangles like that from their mouths).

    More UAU's pulling shi* out of their a**.

     

    And on and on and on...what a joke...after all these years.

     

    Train,

    Shut up.

    Who the hell are you to address 'blacks' as though they are one uniform mass? Same shi*...different day with you. Grow up...in your mindset and in life.

    Huh?I ask a legit question and you wanna talk semantics? Who are you to not address the issue that all black ARE one uniform mass.....according to you and racists.

    I ask how does that change. You say " Shut up."

    Grow up? Me? I dont usually hear grown folk sayin shut up while avoiding a question they cant answer but love to talk about what leads up to it.....blacks get a raw deal...its not their fault!!!!!

    How do we fix it/make it better?

    A: Shut up.


    Interesting you think Im the one that needs a mindset change. I'll continue living a non naive and intelligent life....you keep doin what youre doin....makes me feel good about myself. 
     
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2015 - 4:20 PM ET #72

    Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

    Huh?I ask a legit question and you wanna talk semantics? Who are you to not address the issue that all black ARE one uniform mass.....according to you and racists.

    I ask how does that change. You say " Shut up."

    Grow up? Me? I dont usually hear grown folk sayin shut up while avoiding a question they cant answer but love to talk about what leads up to it.....blacks get a raw deal...its not their fault!!!!!

    How do we fix it/make it better?

    A: Shut up.


    Interesting you think Im the one that needs a mindset change. I'll continue living a non naive and intelligent life....you keep doin what youre doin....makes me feel good about myself. 

    He doesn't have an answer Train.... he just likes to see his words on the screen.   He's basically a politician.....  he'll tell you that the other side is wrong and a disgrace but when it comes to a viable resolution he has nothing.   Can you imagine getting stuck talking to this guy at a party?   I'd take talking to the belligerent drunk girl all night over this clown every time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

    Huh?I ask a legit question and you wanna talk semantics? Who are you to not address the issue that all black ARE one uniform mass.....according to you and racists.

    I ask how does that change. You say " Shut up."

    Grow up? Me? I dont usually hear grown folk sayin shut up while avoiding a question they cant answer but love to talk about what leads up to it.....blacks get a raw deal...its not their fault!!!!!

    How do we fix it/make it better?

    A: Shut up.


    Interesting you think Im the one that needs a mindset change. I'll continue living a non naive and intelligent life....you keep doin what youre doin....makes me feel good about myself. 

    He doesn't have an answer Train.... he just likes to see his words on the screen.   He's basically a politician.....  he'll tell you that the other side is wrong and a disgrace but when it comes to a viable resolution he has nothing.   Can you imagine getting stuck talking to this guy at a party?   I'd take talking to the belligerent drunk girl all night over this clown every time.
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