My alltime fav bible verse:
Ezekiel 23:20
There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.
My alltime fav bible verse:
Ezekiel 23:20
There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.
So you only believe in science when it SUPPORTS your case?
So you only believe in science when it SUPPORTS your case?
1) The creation of the world is the most marvelous achievment imaginable
2) The merit of an achievement is the product of (a) its intrinsic quality, and (b) the ability of its creator
3) The greater the disability (or handicap) of the creater, the more impressive the achievement
4) The most formidable handicap for a creator would be non-existence
5) Therefore if we suppose that the universe is the product of an existent creator we can conceive a greater being - namely, one who created everything while not existing
6) An existing god therefore would not be a being greater than which a greater cannot be conceived because an even more formidable and incredible creator would be a god which did not exist
Ergo:
7) God does not exist
1) The creation of the world is the most marvelous achievment imaginable
2) The merit of an achievement is the product of (a) its intrinsic quality, and (b) the ability of its creator
3) The greater the disability (or handicap) of the creater, the more impressive the achievement
4) The most formidable handicap for a creator would be non-existence
5) Therefore if we suppose that the universe is the product of an existent creator we can conceive a greater being - namely, one who created everything while not existing
6) An existing god therefore would not be a being greater than which a greater cannot be conceived because an even more formidable and incredible creator would be a god which did not exist
Ergo:
7) God does not exist
"Why do bad things
happen to good people/Why do some bad people seem to be happy and prosper"
For me at least, this is one of the harder questions/topic for me to answer, because sometimes there is no "human" explanation for some things. My big bro in my fraternity passed away from a ruptured spleen on a slippin slide about 4 years ago. He was a senior in college, Accounting major, and had the rest of his life to live out. I can't explain why he passed away at the time in his life that he did; and I may never know why. But I know everything happens for a reason, and hopefully I can clear this topic up for anybody that has the same question.
Let's ask a question
first:
There is no doubt that God both allows and, at times, causes pain and suffering, but God's goodness cannot be impugned because He commits an act that appears cruel to us. While we can't claim to know His reasoning in every circumstance, we do know several reasons for actions that can appear to us to be cruel, especially if we don't know - or don't bother to find out - the circumstances:
1) To mete out our just punishment: If a punishment is just, can it be considered cruel? What critics do not understand sometimes is that God's love is not diminished when He brings punishment on people. God is able to bring judgment on an evil group of people in order to spare those who are devoted to Him. To allow evil and wrongdoing to go unpunished would indeed be cruel and would indicate a callousness toward the innocent. Even when God told the Israelite's to completely destroy the enemies of God, including women and children, He knew that to let them live would ensure the existence of future generations devoted to evil idolatrous practices - including in some cases child sacrifices on the alters of false gods.
"Why do bad things
happen to good people/Why do some bad people seem to be happy and prosper"
For me at least, this is one of the harder questions/topic for me to answer, because sometimes there is no "human" explanation for some things. My big bro in my fraternity passed away from a ruptured spleen on a slippin slide about 4 years ago. He was a senior in college, Accounting major, and had the rest of his life to live out. I can't explain why he passed away at the time in his life that he did; and I may never know why. But I know everything happens for a reason, and hopefully I can clear this topic up for anybody that has the same question.
Let's ask a question
first:
There is no doubt that God both allows and, at times, causes pain and suffering, but God's goodness cannot be impugned because He commits an act that appears cruel to us. While we can't claim to know His reasoning in every circumstance, we do know several reasons for actions that can appear to us to be cruel, especially if we don't know - or don't bother to find out - the circumstances:
1) To mete out our just punishment: If a punishment is just, can it be considered cruel? What critics do not understand sometimes is that God's love is not diminished when He brings punishment on people. God is able to bring judgment on an evil group of people in order to spare those who are devoted to Him. To allow evil and wrongdoing to go unpunished would indeed be cruel and would indicate a callousness toward the innocent. Even when God told the Israelite's to completely destroy the enemies of God, including women and children, He knew that to let them live would ensure the existence of future generations devoted to evil idolatrous practices - including in some cases child sacrifices on the alters of false gods.
2) To bring about a greater good: Pain and suffering that produce a greater good sometimes can be brought about by no other means. The Bible tells us in James 1:2 that trials and difficulties produce stronger, better Christians, and we should "count it all joy" when we encounter them. God brings these about for our benefit, in order to refine us like gold in the fire of affliction. The Apostle Paul saw his own suffering - beatings, stoning's, shipwrecks, hunger, thirst, cold, imprisonments - as a means of ensuring that he would be ever conscious of his own weakness, would remember always that the power at work in him was from God, not himself, and would never be deluded into relying on his own power. Against nonbelievers, God's justice is vindicated when He causes pain and suffering to them because they deserve it. He demonstrates His mercy to them by warning them repeatedly of the consequences of sin. When, through their own rebellion, they bring upon themselves calamity, this is just punishment, not cruelty. The fact that He lets rebels go on shaking their fists at Him for as long as He does indicates His mercy and patience, not cruelty.
Contrary to the claims of skeptics, there are good reason's for why God allows evil and suffering in the world. We are privileged to know some of those reasons, but we do not always know why God allows evil and suffering. To trust God in spite of not knowing the reasons is not a blind leap of faith. Rather, we trust Him with the things that we do not understand because we see His faithfulness in those actions which we do understand.
2) To bring about a greater good: Pain and suffering that produce a greater good sometimes can be brought about by no other means. The Bible tells us in James 1:2 that trials and difficulties produce stronger, better Christians, and we should "count it all joy" when we encounter them. God brings these about for our benefit, in order to refine us like gold in the fire of affliction. The Apostle Paul saw his own suffering - beatings, stoning's, shipwrecks, hunger, thirst, cold, imprisonments - as a means of ensuring that he would be ever conscious of his own weakness, would remember always that the power at work in him was from God, not himself, and would never be deluded into relying on his own power. Against nonbelievers, God's justice is vindicated when He causes pain and suffering to them because they deserve it. He demonstrates His mercy to them by warning them repeatedly of the consequences of sin. When, through their own rebellion, they bring upon themselves calamity, this is just punishment, not cruelty. The fact that He lets rebels go on shaking their fists at Him for as long as He does indicates His mercy and patience, not cruelty.
Contrary to the claims of skeptics, there are good reason's for why God allows evil and suffering in the world. We are privileged to know some of those reasons, but we do not always know why God allows evil and suffering. To trust God in spite of not knowing the reasons is not a blind leap of faith. Rather, we trust Him with the things that we do not understand because we see His faithfulness in those actions which we do understand.
Did God create evil?
Did God create evil?
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