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    Calling Forum Lawyers: Is Donald Sterling the Injured Party ?

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    ilsp2003
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    Posted: Apr. 28, 2014 - 5:45 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:

    CA lawyer here.

    Racist thoughts and attitudes are protected free speech. Acting on those thoughts and attitudes, if done in a discriminatory fashion (i.e., I dunno, in housing?) is illegal under a number of federal and state laws.

    On the flip side, recording someone without their consent is also illegal. That's why when, in CA, you call somewhere and you hear a recording that the call may be monitored and recorded for "quality assurance purposes" or really for whatever reason. Notice is the key point. The tape itself would not be admissible in a potential civil jury trial due to this fact, unless the woman could establish that Sterling knew the tape was rolling (highly unlikely -- he may be racist but isn't stupid enough to knowingly put that on tape, especially considering all the full page ads he puts out in the LA Times touting his work with underprivileged youth.)

    Even if you could show that she recorded/released the tape, what good does that do you as Sterling's lawyer? You want to recover any "gifts" she got or money she embezzled. I guarantee she has either (a) already spent those funds or (b) will spend them on her attorney. She is, I'm willing to posit, likely "judgment proof". Congrats Donald, you get a judgment against her, and then she will just go file bankruptcy and it will be all wiped away.







    "Title III of the Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968 (18 U.S.C.A. §§ 2510-2520)

     any person whose communication is intercepted, disclosed, or intentionally used can file a civil lawsuit.


    Electronic Communication Privacy Act
    www.fas.org/sgp/crs/intel/98-326.pdf?


    Does Sterling need to prove that she recorded him ,then released the tape ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:

    CA lawyer here.

    Racist thoughts and attitudes are protected free speech. Acting on those thoughts and attitudes, if done in a discriminatory fashion (i.e., I dunno, in housing?) is illegal under a number of federal and state laws.

    On the flip side, recording someone without their consent is also illegal. That's why when, in CA, you call somewhere and you hear a recording that the call may be monitored and recorded for "quality assurance purposes" or really for whatever reason. Notice is the key point. The tape itself would not be admissible in a potential civil jury trial due to this fact, unless the woman could establish that Sterling knew the tape was rolling (highly unlikely -- he may be racist but isn't stupid enough to knowingly put that on tape, especially considering all the full page ads he puts out in the LA Times touting his work with underprivileged youth.)

    Even if you could show that she recorded/released the tape, what good does that do you as Sterling's lawyer? You want to recover any "gifts" she got or money she embezzled. I guarantee she has either (a) already spent those funds or (b) will spend them on her attorney. She is, I'm willing to posit, likely "judgment proof". Congrats Donald, you get a judgment against her, and then she will just go file bankruptcy and it will be all wiped away.







    "Title III of the Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968 (18 U.S.C.A. §§ 2510-2520)

     any person whose communication is intercepted, disclosed, or intentionally used can file a civil lawsuit.


    Electronic Communication Privacy Act
    www.fas.org/sgp/crs/intel/98-326.pdf?


    Does Sterling need to prove that she recorded him ,then released the tape ?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2014 - 1:31 PM ET #27

    If what donald said is true, his free speech is protected speech under the constitution. Legal issues only arise if it can be proven that he engaged in discriminatory behavior. No evidence in this case. However, the NBA commissioner is not concerned about legal issues. He's looming to save the Nba brand and he does have a lot of power to do almost anything. Don't think he can force donald to sell the team.
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    If what donald said is true, his free speech is protected speech under the constitution. Legal issues only arise if it can be proven that he engaged in discriminatory behavior. No evidence in this case. However, the NBA commissioner is not concerned about legal issues. He's looming to save the Nba brand and he does have a lot of power to do almost anything. Don't think he can force donald to sell the team.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2014 - 2:08 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by VegasVandal:



    Uh, since when? Would love to see the law


    Uh, made yourself look like an behind, huh?

    Maybe you should have goggled California recording laws before putting your two cents in

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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasVandal:



    Uh, since when? Would love to see the law


    Uh, made yourself look like an behind, huh?

    Maybe you should have goggled California recording laws before putting your two cents in

     
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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2014 - 2:43 PM ET #29

    He's just been banned for life by the NBA.
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    He's just been banned for life by the NBA.
     
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    Posted: May. 17, 2014 - 5:19 PM ET #30

    Donald will do everything possible to fight this and this will take years in the courts. I call bullshit on the players saying they wont play. They are under contract and will be in their own legal battles if they don't show up. The league cant just let them void their contracts and if they do Donald will win any anti-trust suit. The players need to stop with all the bullshit and just say they are playing for the great city and fans of Los Angeles and not for Donald.
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    Donald will do everything possible to fight this and this will take years in the courts. I call bullshit on the players saying they wont play. They are under contract and will be in their own legal battles if they don't show up. The league cant just let them void their contracts and if they do Donald will win any anti-trust suit. The players need to stop with all the bullshit and just say they are playing for the great city and fans of Los Angeles and not for Donald.
     
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    Posted: May. 17, 2014 - 8:54 PM ET #31

    When you join the NBA, you become subject to NBA laws and restrictions.

    Sterling can say he won't pay the fine all he wants, it will be taken out when the club is sold......................

    Shelly Sterling can cry she gets half all she wants, she will get half of NOTHING..............

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    When you join the NBA, you become subject to NBA laws and restrictions.

    Sterling can say he won't pay the fine all he wants, it will be taken out when the club is sold......................

    Shelly Sterling can cry she gets half all she wants, she will get half of NOTHING..............

     
     
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    Posted: May. 18, 2014 - 1:41 PM ET #32

    Its difficult to comment not knowing exactly what is in the NBA's agreement. If it states that at any point in time or for specific reasons the owners can vote you out, then that's it for Sterling.

    You pay to be part of the club, and agree to its terms and conditions, and one of those terms or conditions could state that you can be voted out, then it will likely spell doom for Sterling.

    I imagine the NBA can afford some of the brightest legal minds which I'm sure commissioner Nosferatu consulted before making his decision. Which in my honest opinion was nothing more than a PR stunt to appease the players and general public. Still, as a collective they have more ammo

    Sterling is already assembling a team, I believe he has one of the lawyers who represented the Raiders when they sued the NFL.

    This is going to be a complex battle, ultimately, I believe the NBA will prevail. But its going to be a bloodbath.

    As far as the players go, I call total BS on boycotting.

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    Its difficult to comment not knowing exactly what is in the NBA's agreement. If it states that at any point in time or for specific reasons the owners can vote you out, then that's it for Sterling.

    You pay to be part of the club, and agree to its terms and conditions, and one of those terms or conditions could state that you can be voted out, then it will likely spell doom for Sterling.

    I imagine the NBA can afford some of the brightest legal minds which I'm sure commissioner Nosferatu consulted before making his decision. Which in my honest opinion was nothing more than a PR stunt to appease the players and general public. Still, as a collective they have more ammo

    Sterling is already assembling a team, I believe he has one of the lawyers who represented the Raiders when they sued the NFL.

    This is going to be a complex battle, ultimately, I believe the NBA will prevail. But its going to be a bloodbath.

    As far as the players go, I call total BS on boycotting.

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