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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2012 - 5:24 PM ET #126

    So does anybody know where   AA  flight 77 from Dulles landed? If it didn't crash into the Pentagon wouldn't it have landed somewhere? There were two calls made from that flight, to family members reporting the high-jacking. If you  don't believe it crashed into the Pentagon where did it go? Am I supposed to believe the US gov. killed these people after it landed safely? Stormed the plane after it landed? Killed hijacker and crew/passengers. 

    So there is no tape from local gas stations showing a plane in the sky? You guys can't be serious. How the "F" would a camera positioned on car license plates, gas pumps, parking lot and the cash registers pick up a plane flying overhead?  
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    So does anybody know where   AA  flight 77 from Dulles landed? If it didn't crash into the Pentagon wouldn't it have landed somewhere? There were two calls made from that flight, to family members reporting the high-jacking. If you  don't believe it crashed into the Pentagon where did it go? Am I supposed to believe the US gov. killed these people after it landed safely? Stormed the plane after it landed? Killed hijacker and crew/passengers. 

    So there is no tape from local gas stations showing a plane in the sky? You guys can't be serious. How the "F" would a camera positioned on car license plates, gas pumps, parking lot and the cash registers pick up a plane flying overhead?  
     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2012 - 5:30 PM ET #127

    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    BMA, the US government has been at war for 200+ years. This country owned slaves for 400+ years, has the highest incarceration rate in the world, is in the business of pharmaceuticals, the CIA was caught selling crack, US troops are guarding poppy fields in Afghanistan, the US military drops bombs on civilian targets, the US government experimented with chemical weapons on it own soldiers, the bush administration made billions on government contracts, lied about WMD's to go to war and sent US soldiers to die for colonialism, money, oil, lithium, minerals, industrialism, drugs, and yet you still believe the government isn't capable of killing it's own citizens for power and money?



    I do not believe this.

    To each his own.




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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    BMA, the US government has been at war for 200+ years. This country owned slaves for 400+ years, has the highest incarceration rate in the world, is in the business of pharmaceuticals, the CIA was caught selling crack, US troops are guarding poppy fields in Afghanistan, the US military drops bombs on civilian targets, the US government experimented with chemical weapons on it own soldiers, the bush administration made billions on government contracts, lied about WMD's to go to war and sent US soldiers to die for colonialism, money, oil, lithium, minerals, industrialism, drugs, and yet you still believe the government isn't capable of killing it's own citizens for power and money?



    I do not believe this.

    To each his own.




     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2012 - 5:32 PM ET #128

    Quote Originally Posted by BMA:



    I do not believe this.( that the Government killed its own citizens 9/11)

    To each his own.




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    Quote Originally Posted by BMA:



    I do not believe this.( that the Government killed its own citizens 9/11)

    To each his own.




     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2012 - 5:32 PM ET #129

    Quote Originally Posted by dogunder:

    https://911research.wtc7.net/sept11/stockputs.html

    The fact that you believe this makes you a monkey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogunder:

    https://911research.wtc7.net/sept11/stockputs.html

    The fact that you believe this makes you a monkey.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2012 - 5:42 PM ET #130

    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    BMA, read this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoodsand explain what I pointed out in this post.

    The CIA gave Al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden $3 BILLION dollars.
    Israelis were caught on 9/11with a Truckload of Explosives under George Washington Bridge.
    The 911 hijackers were of Saudi Arabian decent.
    The two biggest Middle Eastern allies are Israel and Saudi Arabia.
    Without 911 they couldn’t have gone to war with Iraq and Afghanistan.
    There was never any evidence at all to go to war with Iraq, period.
    The war in Iraq was about money, oil and for revenge for saddam threatening daddy.
    Billions is government contracts and to set up a base for a war with Iran.
    The US has a base in Iraq, Afghanistan, and guess which country is between them? Iran!
    It’s about colonialism, money, oil, lithium, minerals, industrialism, drugs and a platform for war with Iran.
    War is a multi-billion dollar business.
    I don’t hate America or our troops, you do. I don’t want moms to feel what it feels like for their kids to die for colonialism, money, oil, lithium, minerals, industrialism, drugs and a platform for war with Iran.
    Why people are mad at 911 conspiracy theorists?
    I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I'm a truth seeker.
    They should be angry with our government for using Americans and young kids as pawns for colonialism, wealth, and power.

    Don’t question civilian people, question the government.

    The problem I have with those so-called experts is that they already had preconceived notions.  

    People have to let patriotism go and let go of the idea that the US government is righteous. People have to let go of the idea that the US government is not capable of committing mass genocide. People have to let go of everything the media tells you. People have to let go of all of the things that you were taught to believe in school.

    People have to let go of everything they were taught to believe in. Unless people are willing to see the truth, there is no amount of evidence I can show you to change your mind.

    You think the CIA, FBI, Dept of Defense, and others don’t have the capability of accomplishing an engineered series of explosions?

    In a building occupied by occupied in part by the CIA, FBI, Dept of Defense, and others, you think they don’t have the technology required to prepare it for demolition?

    I’m sure the CIA, FBI, Dept of Defense, and others know how to use Thermite.

    WTC7 free fall
    https://jonas61.unblog.fr/files/2009/10/untitled.bmp

    I’m not saying I am sure of a conspiracy, I’m just saying don’t believe what the government tells you. They are put in place to lie to us and the US has been at war for 200+ years. The US runs on war. Without 911 there could be NO war with Iraq or Afghanistan.


    Operation Northwoods

    You guys take the cake.  I don't know how you get through a day with your paranoid delusions.  See, I'm capable of believing the US government could kill its citizens.  But you guys are kooks.  

    You clowns are the ones first in line accusing the government of being comprised of a bunch of idiots who can't do anything right. They can't even keep a secret about the revealing of an operative's identity.  But they pulled off 9/11.  You all are insane.

    Show them a perfectly good picture of a wheel from a 757 in the Pentagon wreckage yet they are 100% positive a plane didn't fly into the building.  Cracks me up.  



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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    BMA, read this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoodsand explain what I pointed out in this post.

    The CIA gave Al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden $3 BILLION dollars.
    Israelis were caught on 9/11with a Truckload of Explosives under George Washington Bridge.
    The 911 hijackers were of Saudi Arabian decent.
    The two biggest Middle Eastern allies are Israel and Saudi Arabia.
    Without 911 they couldn’t have gone to war with Iraq and Afghanistan.
    There was never any evidence at all to go to war with Iraq, period.
    The war in Iraq was about money, oil and for revenge for saddam threatening daddy.
    Billions is government contracts and to set up a base for a war with Iran.
    The US has a base in Iraq, Afghanistan, and guess which country is between them? Iran!
    It’s about colonialism, money, oil, lithium, minerals, industrialism, drugs and a platform for war with Iran.
    War is a multi-billion dollar business.
    I don’t hate America or our troops, you do. I don’t want moms to feel what it feels like for their kids to die for colonialism, money, oil, lithium, minerals, industrialism, drugs and a platform for war with Iran.
    Why people are mad at 911 conspiracy theorists?
    I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I'm a truth seeker.
    They should be angry with our government for using Americans and young kids as pawns for colonialism, wealth, and power.

    Don’t question civilian people, question the government.

    The problem I have with those so-called experts is that they already had preconceived notions.  

    People have to let patriotism go and let go of the idea that the US government is righteous. People have to let go of the idea that the US government is not capable of committing mass genocide. People have to let go of everything the media tells you. People have to let go of all of the things that you were taught to believe in school.

    People have to let go of everything they were taught to believe in. Unless people are willing to see the truth, there is no amount of evidence I can show you to change your mind.

    You think the CIA, FBI, Dept of Defense, and others don’t have the capability of accomplishing an engineered series of explosions?

    In a building occupied by occupied in part by the CIA, FBI, Dept of Defense, and others, you think they don’t have the technology required to prepare it for demolition?

    I’m sure the CIA, FBI, Dept of Defense, and others know how to use Thermite.

    WTC7 free fall
    https://jonas61.unblog.fr/files/2009/10/untitled.bmp

    I’m not saying I am sure of a conspiracy, I’m just saying don’t believe what the government tells you. They are put in place to lie to us and the US has been at war for 200+ years. The US runs on war. Without 911 there could be NO war with Iraq or Afghanistan.


    Operation Northwoods

    You guys take the cake.  I don't know how you get through a day with your paranoid delusions.  See, I'm capable of believing the US government could kill its citizens.  But you guys are kooks.  

    You clowns are the ones first in line accusing the government of being comprised of a bunch of idiots who can't do anything right. They can't even keep a secret about the revealing of an operative's identity.  But they pulled off 9/11.  You all are insane.

    Show them a perfectly good picture of a wheel from a 757 in the Pentagon wreckage yet they are 100% positive a plane didn't fly into the building.  Cracks me up.  



     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2012 - 5:50 PM ET #131

    Quote Originally Posted by KOAJ:





    actually when our currency was backed by gold or silver, we were not at war. with a flexible fiat currency we can be at war all the time. Fed created in 1913. since then, 100 years of war to equate with the 100 years of fiat currency

    the only thing you are missing is why we went to war in afghanistan & iraq and why they want war in syria, libya, and iran

    its because those nations do not, or did not have a privately owned central bank...or they were going to trade their oil for gold or euros instead of US dollars

    understand that and you understand why we are in the middle east and why so many of our brothers have gone and died

    BMA - the Dems and Republicans in Congress work for the Fed as does the President. The Fed works for its owners. Who are its owners? no one knows for sure


    An Iranian bomb is likely to unleash the most divisive partisan discord in the U.S. since the 1949 debate about who lost China.


    In the end, neither the turbulent order of the Middle East nor the partisan politics of Washington can afford an Islamic Republic armed with nuclear weapons.

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    actually when our currency was backed by gold or silver, we were not at war. with a flexible fiat currency we can be at war all the time. Fed created in 1913. since then, 100 years of war to equate with the 100 years of fiat currency

    the only thing you are missing is why we went to war in afghanistan & iraq and why they want war in syria, libya, and iran

    its because those nations do not, or did not have a privately owned central bank...or they were going to trade their oil for gold or euros instead of US dollars

    understand that and you understand why we are in the middle east and why so many of our brothers have gone and died

    BMA - the Dems and Republicans in Congress work for the Fed as does the President. The Fed works for its owners. Who are its owners? no one knows for sure


    An Iranian bomb is likely to unleash the most divisive partisan discord in the U.S. since the 1949 debate about who lost China.


    In the end, neither the turbulent order of the Middle East nor the partisan politics of Washington can afford an Islamic Republic armed with nuclear weapons.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2012 - 5:54 PM ET #132

    Quote Originally Posted by BMA:



    I do not believe this.

    To each his own.




    “We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the world – no longer a Government of free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of small groups of dominant men.”  
    ~ President Woodrow Wilson

    "By the time you become the leader of a country, someone else makes all the decisions. You may find you can get away with Virtual Presidents, Virtual Prime Ministers, and Virtual Everything."
    ~President Bill Clinton

    "The high office of the President has been used to foment a plot to destroy the American's freedom and before I leave office, I must inform the citizen of this plight."
    ~ President John F. Kennedy

    "In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist."
    ~ President Dwight D. Eisenhower

    "In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happened, you can bet it was planned that way."
    ~ President Franklin D. Roosevelt


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    I do not believe this.

    To each his own.




    “We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the world – no longer a Government of free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of small groups of dominant men.”  
    ~ President Woodrow Wilson

    "By the time you become the leader of a country, someone else makes all the decisions. You may find you can get away with Virtual Presidents, Virtual Prime Ministers, and Virtual Everything."
    ~President Bill Clinton

    "The high office of the President has been used to foment a plot to destroy the American's freedom and before I leave office, I must inform the citizen of this plight."
    ~ President John F. Kennedy

    "In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist."
    ~ President Dwight D. Eisenhower

    "In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happened, you can bet it was planned that way."
    ~ President Franklin D. Roosevelt


     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2012 - 5:57 PM ET #133

    Kenned was so fired up about Operations Northwoods being a great idea, he did this:

    After the Bay of Pigs, Kennedy had fired CIA director Allen Dulles, Deputy Director Charles Cabell, and Deputy Director Richard Bissell, and turned his attention towards Vietnam. Kennedy had also stripped the CIA of responsibility for paramilitary operations like the Bay of Pigs and turned them over to the U.S. Department of Defense and the Joint Chiefs of Staff, which, as Commander in Chief, Kennedy could more directly control. Personally, Kennedy expressed outrage to many of his associates about the CIA's growing influence on civilians and government inside America, and his attempt to curtail the CIA's extensive Cold War and paramilitary operations was a direct expression of this concern.
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    Kenned was so fired up about Operations Northwoods being a great idea, he did this:

    After the Bay of Pigs, Kennedy had fired CIA director Allen Dulles, Deputy Director Charles Cabell, and Deputy Director Richard Bissell, and turned his attention towards Vietnam. Kennedy had also stripped the CIA of responsibility for paramilitary operations like the Bay of Pigs and turned them over to the U.S. Department of Defense and the Joint Chiefs of Staff, which, as Commander in Chief, Kennedy could more directly control. Personally, Kennedy expressed outrage to many of his associates about the CIA's growing influence on civilians and government inside America, and his attempt to curtail the CIA's extensive Cold War and paramilitary operations was a direct expression of this concern.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2012 - 5:57 PM ET #134

    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    BMA, the US government has been at war for 200+ years. This country owned slaves for 400+ years, has the highest incarceration rate in the world, is in the business of pharmaceuticals, the CIA was caught selling crack, US troops are guarding poppy fields in Afghanistan, the US military drops bombs on civilian targets, the US government experimented with chemical weapons on it own soldiers, the bush administration made billions on government contracts, lied about WMD's to go to war and sent US soldiers to die for colonialism, money, oil, lithium, minerals, industrialism, drugs, and yet you still believe the government isn't capable of killing it's own citizens for power and money?




    The consequences of our gov't getting caught executing a plot to murder it's own citizens are far worse than the gov't getting caught lying about a war


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    BMA, the US government has been at war for 200+ years. This country owned slaves for 400+ years, has the highest incarceration rate in the world, is in the business of pharmaceuticals, the CIA was caught selling crack, US troops are guarding poppy fields in Afghanistan, the US military drops bombs on civilian targets, the US government experimented with chemical weapons on it own soldiers, the bush administration made billions on government contracts, lied about WMD's to go to war and sent US soldiers to die for colonialism, money, oil, lithium, minerals, industrialism, drugs, and yet you still believe the government isn't capable of killing it's own citizens for power and money?




    The consequences of our gov't getting caught executing a plot to murder it's own citizens are far worse than the gov't getting caught lying about a war


     
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    And Operations Northwoods came about during the most paranoid time in United States history.....the Red Scare.  

    Following presentation of the Northwoods plan, Kennedy removed Lemnitzer as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
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    And Operations Northwoods came about during the most paranoid time in United States history.....the Red Scare.  

    Following presentation of the Northwoods plan, Kennedy removed Lemnitzer as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KOAJ:

    +1 to Money for linking to Operation Northwoods

    now google the Gulf of Tonkin

    false flags...all of it

    19 Saudi nationals with box cutters and hijacked 767's and 2 hours were able to get past the DoD, the US military, NORAD, and NATO

    funny how none of us believe government statistics on the economy, job numbers, green energy, or anything else as we know there is an agenda yet these muslims did it because they hate that we are a "free" people and we all eat this shit up

    war is big business and is a racket. the patriot act was written in 1995 by Joe Biden among others. Afghanistan has 90% of the world's poppy fields which GW Bush ordered specifically not to burn them (this is how the taliban made their money). our CIA guards them.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_54LJMwG4E

    War is big business...debt and bombs enslave generations to bankers. Importing heroin is big business.

    Our government runs guns to Mexican gangs and allows them to bring them across our border!!!! (Fast and Furious)

    the same AG who oversaw Fast Furious (Eric Holder) was the FBI official who gave the ok to supply McVeigh and Nichols with their hundreds of pounds of fertilizer and nitrates

    why do we believe anything or selective things our government tells us....




    Accept for the fact that Saddam murdered his own people with chemical weapons, paid the families of homocide bombers, invaded neighboring countries, strung person up to traffic lights when he took power, had rape rooms, and cut off the fingers and toes of Olympic athletes who failed to win Gold. Yep, nice country.
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    +1 to Money for linking to Operation Northwoods

    now google the Gulf of Tonkin

    false flags...all of it

    19 Saudi nationals with box cutters and hijacked 767's and 2 hours were able to get past the DoD, the US military, NORAD, and NATO

    funny how none of us believe government statistics on the economy, job numbers, green energy, or anything else as we know there is an agenda yet these muslims did it because they hate that we are a "free" people and we all eat this shit up

    war is big business and is a racket. the patriot act was written in 1995 by Joe Biden among others. Afghanistan has 90% of the world's poppy fields which GW Bush ordered specifically not to burn them (this is how the taliban made their money). our CIA guards them.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_54LJMwG4E

    War is big business...debt and bombs enslave generations to bankers. Importing heroin is big business.

    Our government runs guns to Mexican gangs and allows them to bring them across our border!!!! (Fast and Furious)

    the same AG who oversaw Fast Furious (Eric Holder) was the FBI official who gave the ok to supply McVeigh and Nichols with their hundreds of pounds of fertilizer and nitrates

    why do we believe anything or selective things our government tells us....




    Accept for the fact that Saddam murdered his own people with chemical weapons, paid the families of homocide bombers, invaded neighboring countries, strung person up to traffic lights when he took power, had rape rooms, and cut off the fingers and toes of Olympic athletes who failed to win Gold. Yep, nice country.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KOAJ:





    actually when our currency was backed by gold or silver, we were not at war. with a flexible fiat currency we can be at war all the time. Fed created in 1913. since then, 100 years of war to equate with the 100 years of fiat currency

    the only thing you are missing is why we went to war in afghanistan & iraq and why they want war in syria, libya, and iran

    its because those nations do not, or did not have a privately owned central bank...or they were going to trade their oil for gold or euros instead of US dollars

    understand that and you understand why we are in the middle east and why so many of our brothers have gone and died

    BMA - the Dems and Republicans in Congress work for the Fed as does the President. The Fed works for its owners. Who are its owners? no one knows for sure



    The Russians just did the same thing. Except they want to destroy the country they invaded. Because they're evil.
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    actually when our currency was backed by gold or silver, we were not at war. with a flexible fiat currency we can be at war all the time. Fed created in 1913. since then, 100 years of war to equate with the 100 years of fiat currency

    the only thing you are missing is why we went to war in afghanistan & iraq and why they want war in syria, libya, and iran

    its because those nations do not, or did not have a privately owned central bank...or they were going to trade their oil for gold or euros instead of US dollars

    understand that and you understand why we are in the middle east and why so many of our brothers have gone and died

    BMA - the Dems and Republicans in Congress work for the Fed as does the President. The Fed works for its owners. Who are its owners? no one knows for sure



    The Russians just did the same thing. Except they want to destroy the country they invaded. Because they're evil.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KOAJ:





    actually when our currency was backed by gold or silver, we were not at war. with a flexible fiat currency we can be at war all the time. Fed created in 1913. since then, 100 years of war to equate with the 100 years of fiat currency

    the only thing you are missing is why we went to war in afghanistan & iraq and why they want war in syria, libya, and iran

    its because those nations do not, or did not have a privately owned central bank...or they were going to trade their oil for gold or euros instead of US dollars

    understand that and you understand why we are in the middle east and why so many of our brothers have gone and died

    BMA - the Dems and Republicans in Congress work for the Fed as does the President. The Fed works for its owners. Who are its owners? no one knows for sure




    Imagine a world thirty years from now----where the dictators are GONE, where human rights, the rule of law, and democracy is how governments operate. A world where terrorism is a memory of the past. A world where Palestine is a country on its own. A place where Islam is accepted by all other religions, and Islam also accepts all other religions, just like in the U.S.

    It might sound Utopian. But that is the plan.

    There are two "viable" alternatives to this plan:

    1. Leave Saddam and all the other dictators in place for the next decade, or the next 5 decades (torture and death included) (and Saddam and the other dictators will not leave on their own);

    2. Take the f*cker out! This means we endure the ugliness of a war where some civilians, some brave young Coalition soldiers, and lots of Iraqi soldiers will be killed. In exchange we nudge the world to a more Utopian future, while saving many more lives in the long run.

    "Antiwar" folks, would you really have wanted SADDAM and all the other dictators to stay in power until someone else did something about it? Well, someone had to! And that "someone" was the U.S.A.!
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    actually when our currency was backed by gold or silver, we were not at war. with a flexible fiat currency we can be at war all the time. Fed created in 1913. since then, 100 years of war to equate with the 100 years of fiat currency

    the only thing you are missing is why we went to war in afghanistan & iraq and why they want war in syria, libya, and iran

    its because those nations do not, or did not have a privately owned central bank...or they were going to trade their oil for gold or euros instead of US dollars

    understand that and you understand why we are in the middle east and why so many of our brothers have gone and died

    BMA - the Dems and Republicans in Congress work for the Fed as does the President. The Fed works for its owners. Who are its owners? no one knows for sure




    Imagine a world thirty years from now----where the dictators are GONE, where human rights, the rule of law, and democracy is how governments operate. A world where terrorism is a memory of the past. A world where Palestine is a country on its own. A place where Islam is accepted by all other religions, and Islam also accepts all other religions, just like in the U.S.

    It might sound Utopian. But that is the plan.

    There are two "viable" alternatives to this plan:

    1. Leave Saddam and all the other dictators in place for the next decade, or the next 5 decades (torture and death included) (and Saddam and the other dictators will not leave on their own);

    2. Take the f*cker out! This means we endure the ugliness of a war where some civilians, some brave young Coalition soldiers, and lots of Iraqi soldiers will be killed. In exchange we nudge the world to a more Utopian future, while saving many more lives in the long run.

    "Antiwar" folks, would you really have wanted SADDAM and all the other dictators to stay in power until someone else did something about it? Well, someone had to! And that "someone" was the U.S.A.!
     
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    Reagan National controllers then vectored an unarmed National Guard C130H cargo aircraft, which had just taken off en route to Minnesota, to identify and follow the suspicious aircraft. The C-130H pilot spotted it, identified it as a Boeing 757, attempted to follow its path, and at 9:38, seconds after impact, reported to the control tower: "looks like that aircraft crashed into the Pentagon sir."

    _____________

    Even a person in another aircraft followed flight 77 and saw it crash into the pentagon.  But I guess that means the government was able to get to the air controllers and other personnel at the airport.  

    Man, that US government is EVERYWHERE.  


    Do you guys also check your toothpaste for plastic explosives every day?  

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    Reagan National controllers then vectored an unarmed National Guard C130H cargo aircraft, which had just taken off en route to Minnesota, to identify and follow the suspicious aircraft. The C-130H pilot spotted it, identified it as a Boeing 757, attempted to follow its path, and at 9:38, seconds after impact, reported to the control tower: "looks like that aircraft crashed into the Pentagon sir."

    _____________

    Even a person in another aircraft followed flight 77 and saw it crash into the pentagon.  But I guess that means the government was able to get to the air controllers and other personnel at the airport.  

    Man, that US government is EVERYWHERE.  


    Do you guys also check your toothpaste for plastic explosives every day?  

     
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    BMA, I guess 5,000 American sons, daughters dying, are not considered citizens in your eyes?  

    You have good intentions BMA but unfortunately, the US government hasn’t been that way since WW1 and WW2.

    The US government today is about colonialism, money, oil, lithium, minerals, industrialism, and drugs. They are hiding the real reason behind this idea of democracy and freedom.

    I was just like you once BMA.

    I was so patriotic and could never believe my government was bad. I trusted the government with my life and thought the government was like a father to us citizens. I thought they were there to take care of us and protect us. Then I started to study history, politics and the deeper I dug the more I realized it was all an illusion.

    What’s scary is that the US will not let citizens see the 911 remnants to look over it our selves and that there is not a single picture of plane debris after the pentagon crash and no video.

    One of the most fascinating aspects of Operation Northwoods involved the proposed hijacking of an American passenger plane and to create public support for a war and 39 years later 911 happened and a war with Iraq and Afghanistan with public support.

    Damn you have to be a gullible person not to see a weird connection.

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    BMA, I guess 5,000 American sons, daughters dying, are not considered citizens in your eyes?  

    You have good intentions BMA but unfortunately, the US government hasn’t been that way since WW1 and WW2.

    The US government today is about colonialism, money, oil, lithium, minerals, industrialism, and drugs. They are hiding the real reason behind this idea of democracy and freedom.

    I was just like you once BMA.

    I was so patriotic and could never believe my government was bad. I trusted the government with my life and thought the government was like a father to us citizens. I thought they were there to take care of us and protect us. Then I started to study history, politics and the deeper I dug the more I realized it was all an illusion.

    What’s scary is that the US will not let citizens see the 911 remnants to look over it our selves and that there is not a single picture of plane debris after the pentagon crash and no video.

    One of the most fascinating aspects of Operation Northwoods involved the proposed hijacking of an American passenger plane and to create public support for a war and 39 years later 911 happened and a war with Iraq and Afghanistan with public support.

    Damn you have to be a gullible person not to see a weird connection.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    BMA, I guess 5,000 American sons, daughters dying, are not considered citizens in your eyes?  

    You have good intentions BMA but unfortunately, the US government hasn’t been that way since WW1 and WW2.

    The US government today is about colonialism, money, oil, lithium, minerals, industrialism, and drugs. They are hiding the real reason behind this idea of democracy and freedom.

    I was just like you once BMA.

    I was so patriotic and could never believe my government was bad. I trusted the government with my life and thought the government was like a father to us citizens. I thought they were there to take care of us and protect us. Then I started to study history, politics and the deeper I dug the more I realized it was all an illusion.

    What’s scary is that the US will not let citizens see the 911 remnants to look over it our selves and that there is not a single picture of plane debris after the pentagon crash and no video.

    One of the most fascinating aspects of Operation Northwoods involved the proposed hijacking of an American passenger plane and to create public support for a war and 39 years later 911 happened and a war with Iraq and Afghanistan with public support.

    Damn you have to be a gullible person not to see a weird connection.

    *Correction* BMA, I guess 5,000 American SOLDIERS who are sons, daughters dying, are not considered citizens in your eyes? 
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    BMA, I guess 5,000 American sons, daughters dying, are not considered citizens in your eyes?  

    You have good intentions BMA but unfortunately, the US government hasn’t been that way since WW1 and WW2.

    The US government today is about colonialism, money, oil, lithium, minerals, industrialism, and drugs. They are hiding the real reason behind this idea of democracy and freedom.

    I was just like you once BMA.

    I was so patriotic and could never believe my government was bad. I trusted the government with my life and thought the government was like a father to us citizens. I thought they were there to take care of us and protect us. Then I started to study history, politics and the deeper I dug the more I realized it was all an illusion.

    What’s scary is that the US will not let citizens see the 911 remnants to look over it our selves and that there is not a single picture of plane debris after the pentagon crash and no video.

    One of the most fascinating aspects of Operation Northwoods involved the proposed hijacking of an American passenger plane and to create public support for a war and 39 years later 911 happened and a war with Iraq and Afghanistan with public support.

    Damn you have to be a gullible person not to see a weird connection.

    *Correction* BMA, I guess 5,000 American SOLDIERS who are sons, daughters dying, are not considered citizens in your eyes? 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    BMA, I guess 5,000 American sons, daughters dying, are not considered citizens in your eyes?  


    You have good intentions BMA but unfortunately, the US government hasn’t been that way since WW1 and WW2.

    The US government today is about colonialism, money, oil, lithium, minerals, industrialism, and drugs. They are hiding the real reason behind this idea of democracy and freedom.

    I was just like you once BMA.

    I was so patriotic and could never believe my government was bad. I trusted the government with my life and thought the government was like a father to us citizens. I thought they were there to take care of us and protect us. Then I started to study history, politics and the deeper I dug the more I realized it was all an illusion.

    What’s scary is that the US will not let citizens see the 911 remnants to look over it our selves and that there is not a single picture of plane debris after the pentagon crash and no video.

    One of the most fascinating aspects of Operation Northwoods involved the proposed hijacking of an American passenger plane and to create public support for a war and 39 years later 911 happened and a war with Iraq and Afghanistan with public support.

    Damn you have to be a gullible person not to see a weird connection.


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    BMA, I guess 5,000 American sons, daughters dying, are not considered citizens in your eyes?  


    You have good intentions BMA but unfortunately, the US government hasn’t been that way since WW1 and WW2.

    The US government today is about colonialism, money, oil, lithium, minerals, industrialism, and drugs. They are hiding the real reason behind this idea of democracy and freedom.

    I was just like you once BMA.

    I was so patriotic and could never believe my government was bad. I trusted the government with my life and thought the government was like a father to us citizens. I thought they were there to take care of us and protect us. Then I started to study history, politics and the deeper I dug the more I realized it was all an illusion.

    What’s scary is that the US will not let citizens see the 911 remnants to look over it our selves and that there is not a single picture of plane debris after the pentagon crash and no video.

    One of the most fascinating aspects of Operation Northwoods involved the proposed hijacking of an American passenger plane and to create public support for a war and 39 years later 911 happened and a war with Iraq and Afghanistan with public support.

    Damn you have to be a gullible person not to see a weird connection.


    https://www.rense.com/general32/phot.htm
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:


    Operation Northwoods

    You guys take the cake.  I don't know how you get through a day with your paranoid delusions.  See, I'm capable of believing the US government could kill its citizens.  But you guys are kooks.  

    You clowns are the ones first in line accusing the government of being comprised of a bunch of idiots who can't do anything right. They can't even keep a secret about the revealing of an operative's identity.  But they pulled off 9/11.  You all are insane.

    Show them a perfectly good picture of a wheel from a 757 in the Pentagon wreckage yet they are 100% positive a plane didn't fly into the building.  Cracks me up.  




    you are an imbecile  
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    Operation Northwoods

    You guys take the cake.  I don't know how you get through a day with your paranoid delusions.  See, I'm capable of believing the US government could kill its citizens.  But you guys are kooks.  

    You clowns are the ones first in line accusing the government of being comprised of a bunch of idiots who can't do anything right. They can't even keep a secret about the revealing of an operative's identity.  But they pulled off 9/11.  You all are insane.

    Show them a perfectly good picture of a wheel from a 757 in the Pentagon wreckage yet they are 100% positive a plane didn't fly into the building.  Cracks me up.  




    you are an imbecile  
     
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    The single biggest fact pointing to the fact that there was no 9/11 conspiracy is that the co-conspirators -- of which there had to have been THOUSANDS -- have not come forward. Hutch was right when he said the government is completely incompetent in almost everything, but somehow people believe that in this one giant conspiracy, they have kept a water-tight leak from occurring. I call bullshit. Nixon and ten dudes couldn't keep Watergate under wraps, but thousands of people can keep this under wraps?

    Doesn't pass the smell test.
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    The single biggest fact pointing to the fact that there was no 9/11 conspiracy is that the co-conspirators -- of which there had to have been THOUSANDS -- have not come forward. Hutch was right when he said the government is completely incompetent in almost everything, but somehow people believe that in this one giant conspiracy, they have kept a water-tight leak from occurring. I call bullshit. Nixon and ten dudes couldn't keep Watergate under wraps, but thousands of people can keep this under wraps?

    Doesn't pass the smell test.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:


    https://www.rense.com/general32/phot.htm
    I was talking about video and pictures taken by civilians before the plane struck. I also would like for someone to explain the size of the hole. Not some government report but an independent outsider with NO agenda to explain the size of the hole and the pentagon attack.

    Another thing that drives me crazy is the idea that a plane could strike the pentagon? The have a missile defense system but they can't defend the pentagon from a kamikaze strike?

    I don't know but all I do know is the government is full of shit and I don't trust anything they say.
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    https://www.rense.com/general32/phot.htm
    I was talking about video and pictures taken by civilians before the plane struck. I also would like for someone to explain the size of the hole. Not some government report but an independent outsider with NO agenda to explain the size of the hole and the pentagon attack.

    Another thing that drives me crazy is the idea that a plane could strike the pentagon? The have a missile defense system but they can't defend the pentagon from a kamikaze strike?

    I don't know but all I do know is the government is full of shit and I don't trust anything they say.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:

    The single biggest fact pointing to the fact that there was no 9/11 conspiracy is that the co-conspirators -- of which there had to have been THOUSANDS -- have not come forward. Hutch was right when he said the government is completely incompetent in almost everything, but somehow people believe that in this one giant conspiracy, they have kept a water-tight leak from occurring. I call bullshit. Nixon and ten dudes couldn't keep Watergate under wraps, but thousands of people can keep this under wraps?

    Doesn't pass the smell test.


    C'mon Kap....you're in the law field...look at the evidence from both angles.

    how about all the dirty secrets ops that are not discovered? for every one scandal uncovered i bet there are 100 more that are still top secret and classified. so i would have to disagree, they do know how to keep secrets.


    War by deception
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTx5R67slS0

    Under Occupation: Full Movie

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNuebABgJNs&feature=related




    anyhow...how's the newborn? keeping you up at nights?

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    The single biggest fact pointing to the fact that there was no 9/11 conspiracy is that the co-conspirators -- of which there had to have been THOUSANDS -- have not come forward. Hutch was right when he said the government is completely incompetent in almost everything, but somehow people believe that in this one giant conspiracy, they have kept a water-tight leak from occurring. I call bullshit. Nixon and ten dudes couldn't keep Watergate under wraps, but thousands of people can keep this under wraps?

    Doesn't pass the smell test.


    C'mon Kap....you're in the law field...look at the evidence from both angles.

    how about all the dirty secrets ops that are not discovered? for every one scandal uncovered i bet there are 100 more that are still top secret and classified. so i would have to disagree, they do know how to keep secrets.


    War by deception
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTx5R67slS0

    Under Occupation: Full Movie

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNuebABgJNs&feature=related




    anyhow...how's the newborn? keeping you up at nights?

     
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    I don't trust a thing most governments say either. But the 9/11 conspiracy is full of holes. No end game for starters.
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    I don't trust a thing most governments say either. But the 9/11 conspiracy is full of holes. No end game for starters.
     
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    9/11 Exposed

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFx1WaK54Vo&feature=related



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    9/11 Exposed

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFx1WaK54Vo&feature=related



     
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9AoaU7LlTk

         If you can watch this video and still insist that Bush and our gov't is telling us everything, and not hiding anything or lying, I really feel sorry for you. 

         I've never seen someone fail so miserably (and look so uncomfortable doing it) to avoid answering a question. 

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9AoaU7LlTk

         If you can watch this video and still insist that Bush and our gov't is telling us everything, and not hiding anything or lying, I really feel sorry for you. 

         I've never seen someone fail so miserably (and look so uncomfortable doing it) to avoid answering a question. 

     
     
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    Former CIA Asset, Susan Lindauer, provides an extraordinary first-hand account from behind the intelligence curtain that shatters the government's lies about 9/11 and Iraq, and casts a harsh spotlight on the workings of the Patriot Act as the ideal weapon to bludgeon whistle blowers and dissidents. A terrifying true story of "black budget" betrayals and the Patriot Act, with its arsenal of secret evidence, indefinite detention and threats of forcible drugging,

    EXTREME PREJUDICE(Book by Susan Lindauer) reveals one Asset's desperate struggle to survive the brutal cover ups of 9/11 and Iraq. EXTREME PREJUDICE delivers a high tension expose of the real facts surrounding the CIA's advance warnings of 9/11 and Iraq's contributions to the 9/11 investigation.


    is this former CIA worker spreading more truth or lies? hmm, i guess we'll find out when she dies of unnatural causes

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68LUHa_-OlA&feature=related


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    Former CIA Asset, Susan Lindauer, provides an extraordinary first-hand account from behind the intelligence curtain that shatters the government's lies about 9/11 and Iraq, and casts a harsh spotlight on the workings of the Patriot Act as the ideal weapon to bludgeon whistle blowers and dissidents. A terrifying true story of "black budget" betrayals and the Patriot Act, with its arsenal of secret evidence, indefinite detention and threats of forcible drugging,

    EXTREME PREJUDICE(Book by Susan Lindauer) reveals one Asset's desperate struggle to survive the brutal cover ups of 9/11 and Iraq. EXTREME PREJUDICE delivers a high tension expose of the real facts surrounding the CIA's advance warnings of 9/11 and Iraq's contributions to the 9/11 investigation.


    is this former CIA worker spreading more truth or lies? hmm, i guess we'll find out when she dies of unnatural causes

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68LUHa_-OlA&feature=related


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