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    BURG2VEGAS
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2012 - 1:30 AM ET #76

    Wow this really sucks I don't have an account w/them but this is just devestating news to those of us who use off shore 5dimes has been good to me , so has heritage but as far as trust with my money I'd go with You Wager. Hope you guys get paid
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    Wow this really sucks I don't have an account w/them but this is just devestating news to those of us who use off shore 5dimes has been good to me , so has heritage but as far as trust with my money I'd go with You Wager. Hope you guys get paid
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2012 - 1:31 AM ET #77

    Quote Originally Posted by cuwgolfer:

    how do we know 100% betislands is done?? besides all the sbr forum crap. just curious? i really hope that i get the 2500 at some point. guess i will just pray. i was told id have it friday. seems from the posts ill never get it. sigh

    I guess we dont know 100% percent..but pretty damn close to 100%. They are not paying..they lie to people constantly, we are being told by the staff at SBR that the general manager Jon Kreta is no longer with bet islands..all of the warning signs were there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cuwgolfer:

    how do we know 100% betislands is done?? besides all the sbr forum crap. just curious? i really hope that i get the 2500 at some point. guess i will just pray. i was told id have it friday. seems from the posts ill never get it. sigh

    I guess we dont know 100% percent..but pretty damn close to 100%. They are not paying..they lie to people constantly, we are being told by the staff at SBR that the general manager Jon Kreta is no longer with bet islands..all of the warning signs were there.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2012 - 1:33 AM ET #78

    [Quote: Originally Posted by PhantomFlag] This might have to be it for me with Sports betting, I have stayed with BI for 3 years now and finally recently pulled even on the account there,so I get going with a local and sure enough lose a dime to him.  Have a buck in BI and turn into a dime - go to withdraw today and get told 5eastern thru WU for 975 then call at 4 CS tells me it is coming that I should expect a call .no call so it is now 6pm and NO ONE answers in CS!!  I pleaded with these guys for a week or two now to come clean if stuff is going bad there that alot of bad signs lately, and they have always been honestly good people there and told me everything is fine it is all about processor.  I cannot believe this, will try again in the AM and pray I get this money, I cannot take this stuff anymore, so hard to win a bet and get ahead then this worry.  I give up.   [/Quote

    I feel you phantom flag..i have been getting my behind kicked the whol year until recently i went on a big run to get about 70% of it back..orso i thought..now it appears im not getting anything..tough pill to swallow.

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by PhantomFlag] This might have to be it for me with Sports betting, I have stayed with BI for 3 years now and finally recently pulled even on the account there,so I get going with a local and sure enough lose a dime to him.  Have a buck in BI and turn into a dime - go to withdraw today and get told 5eastern thru WU for 975 then call at 4 CS tells me it is coming that I should expect a call .no call so it is now 6pm and NO ONE answers in CS!!  I pleaded with these guys for a week or two now to come clean if stuff is going bad there that alot of bad signs lately, and they have always been honestly good people there and told me everything is fine it is all about processor.  I cannot believe this, will try again in the AM and pray I get this money, I cannot take this stuff anymore, so hard to win a bet and get ahead then this worry.  I give up.   [/Quote

    I feel you phantom flag..i have been getting my behind kicked the whol year until recently i went on a big run to get about 70% of it back..orso i thought..now it appears im not getting anything..tough pill to swallow.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2012 - 1:35 AM ET #79

    Quote Originally Posted by BURG2VEGAS:

    Wow this really sucks I don't have an account w/them but this is just devestating news to those of us who use off shore 5dimes has been good to me , so has heritage but as far as trust with my money I'd go with You Wager. Hope you guys get paid

    I really think we are at the point where we can no longer use the word "trust" in association with offshore betting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BURG2VEGAS:

    Wow this really sucks I don't have an account w/them but this is just devestating news to those of us who use off shore 5dimes has been good to me , so has heritage but as far as trust with my money I'd go with You Wager. Hope you guys get paid

    I really think we are at the point where we can no longer use the word "trust" in association with offshore betting.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2012 - 10:03 AM ET #80

    "Bangthebook.com" knew betislands was a scam and black listed them on 11/11/12. We are very late to the party.
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    "Bangthebook.com" knew betislands was a scam and black listed them on 11/11/12. We are very late to the party.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2012 - 10:25 AM ET #81

    This all makes me sick to my stomach because if I had just done my homework before making all the deposits I have made with them over the past few weeks, I would have known not to.  Finally won a good amount of money, sought payouts for last 10 days, have called everyday as I am very persistent and annoying personality, and nothing has happened.  Ryan is the only one who provides substantive answers but it seems like everyone gets the same ones, so I don't believe he's being completely honest.  I am still holding out hope that with Jon leaving the company as GM they are just going through some roadblocks, but that it will be resolved sooner or later.  At least they aren't lying about Jon leaving as GM, as SBR has that cited as a reason for the downgrade they gave them yesterday.  I saw BangtheBook said they are a scam, but SBR only downgraded them from a B to a C and I trust SBR more than BangtheBook for now...

    I also don't get it and maybe someone can explain it to me, but if it was a scam and they intended on giving no one their money, and they know the cat is out of the bag at Bangthebook, here and SBR, why would they continue to peddle the lie that they're working on it?  I mean it's not like paying americans is the simplest thing to do, it really could be there are issues, right?  I just don't get why they wouldn't eventually say HAHA, it's a scam, sorry, you're not getting your money.  They have no reputation to protect anymore.
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    This all makes me sick to my stomach because if I had just done my homework before making all the deposits I have made with them over the past few weeks, I would have known not to.  Finally won a good amount of money, sought payouts for last 10 days, have called everyday as I am very persistent and annoying personality, and nothing has happened.  Ryan is the only one who provides substantive answers but it seems like everyone gets the same ones, so I don't believe he's being completely honest.  I am still holding out hope that with Jon leaving the company as GM they are just going through some roadblocks, but that it will be resolved sooner or later.  At least they aren't lying about Jon leaving as GM, as SBR has that cited as a reason for the downgrade they gave them yesterday.  I saw BangtheBook said they are a scam, but SBR only downgraded them from a B to a C and I trust SBR more than BangtheBook for now...

    I also don't get it and maybe someone can explain it to me, but if it was a scam and they intended on giving no one their money, and they know the cat is out of the bag at Bangthebook, here and SBR, why would they continue to peddle the lie that they're working on it?  I mean it's not like paying americans is the simplest thing to do, it really could be there are issues, right?  I just don't get why they wouldn't eventually say HAHA, it's a scam, sorry, you're not getting your money.  They have no reputation to protect anymore.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2012 - 6:11 PM ET #82

    Quote Originally Posted by cpfs146:

    Aren't these guys the best in the business, when it comes to payouts ?


    You must be joking.......

    Mickey Mouse shop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cpfs146:

    Aren't these guys the best in the business, when it comes to payouts ?


    You must be joking.......

    Mickey Mouse shop.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2012 - 7:29 PM ET #83

    Quote Originally Posted by maxball12:

    This all makes me sick to my stomach because if I had just done my homework before making all the deposits I have made with them over the past few weeks, I would have known not to.  Finally won a good amount of money, sought payouts for last 10 days, have called everyday as I am very persistent and annoying personality, and nothing has happened.  Ryan is the only one who provides substantive answers but it seems like everyone gets the same ones, so I don't believe he's being completely honest.  I am still holding out hope that with Jon leaving the company as GM they are just going through some roadblocks, but that it will be resolved sooner or later.  At least they aren't lying about Jon leaving as GM, as SBR has that cited as a reason for the downgrade they gave them yesterday.  I saw BangtheBook said they are a scam, but SBR only downgraded them from a B to a C and I trust SBR more than BangtheBook for now...

    I also don't get it and maybe someone can explain it to me, but if it was a scam and they intended on giving no one their money, and they know the cat is out of the bag at Bangthebook, here and SBR, why would they continue to peddle the lie that they're working on it?  I mean it's not like paying americans is the simplest thing to do, it really could be there are issues, right?  I just don't get why they wouldn't eventually say HAHA, it's a scam, sorry, you're not getting your money.  They have no reputation to protect anymore.


    They are now rated F by SBR. You're fukked pal, just like the rest of us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxball12:

    This all makes me sick to my stomach because if I had just done my homework before making all the deposits I have made with them over the past few weeks, I would have known not to.  Finally won a good amount of money, sought payouts for last 10 days, have called everyday as I am very persistent and annoying personality, and nothing has happened.  Ryan is the only one who provides substantive answers but it seems like everyone gets the same ones, so I don't believe he's being completely honest.  I am still holding out hope that with Jon leaving the company as GM they are just going through some roadblocks, but that it will be resolved sooner or later.  At least they aren't lying about Jon leaving as GM, as SBR has that cited as a reason for the downgrade they gave them yesterday.  I saw BangtheBook said they are a scam, but SBR only downgraded them from a B to a C and I trust SBR more than BangtheBook for now...

    I also don't get it and maybe someone can explain it to me, but if it was a scam and they intended on giving no one their money, and they know the cat is out of the bag at Bangthebook, here and SBR, why would they continue to peddle the lie that they're working on it?  I mean it's not like paying americans is the simplest thing to do, it really could be there are issues, right?  I just don't get why they wouldn't eventually say HAHA, it's a scam, sorry, you're not getting your money.  They have no reputation to protect anymore.


    They are now rated F by SBR. You're fukked pal, just like the rest of us.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2012 - 10:15 AM ET #84

    yesterday teh Customer Service dept. was Email only, and the phone wagering line said BI was closed but they would still take our bets. TODAY, I call and get Ryan, who tells of GOOD NEWS and that negotiations are underway as a new buyer is promising....why bs me at this point?  Figure we may have new life.  I love the dogs and we have a live dog here, I got BI +375.

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    yesterday teh Customer Service dept. was Email only, and the phone wagering line said BI was closed but they would still take our bets. TODAY, I call and get Ryan, who tells of GOOD NEWS and that negotiations are underway as a new buyer is promising....why bs me at this point?  Figure we may have new life.  I love the dogs and we have a live dog here, I got BI +375.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2012 - 2:19 PM ET #85

    Well here is the Dear John note from the former Bet Islands.  Never thought I would become the victim, but it is my turn, just shy of 1,100.  Worked hard for two weeks to turn 100 into 1100 and was ready to buy my wife a nice watch, what a sickening feeling. 

    Important Message:
    We have completely ceased business while negotiations are concluded to find an out for the players. I apologize a head of time for my absense in these times of stress. We will make a public statement as soon as we have more information.
    You may contact me regarding account balances using the following email address: comptroller@outlook.com

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    Well here is the Dear John note from the former Bet Islands.  Never thought I would become the victim, but it is my turn, just shy of 1,100.  Worked hard for two weeks to turn 100 into 1100 and was ready to buy my wife a nice watch, what a sickening feeling. 

    Important Message:
    We have completely ceased business while negotiations are concluded to find an out for the players. I apologize a head of time for my absense in these times of stress. We will make a public statement as soon as we have more information.
    You may contact me regarding account balances using the following email address: comptroller@outlook.com

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2012 - 2:28 PM ET #86

    Quote Originally Posted by PhantomFlag:

    yesterday teh Customer Service dept. was Email only, and the phone wagering line said BI was closed but they would still take our bets. TODAY, I call and get Ryan, who tells of GOOD NEWS and that negotiations are underway as a new buyer is promising....why bs me at this point?  Figure we may have new life.  I love the dogs and we have a live dog here, I got BI +375.

    The live dog you mentioned is a dead dog..it was euthanized.

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhantomFlag:

    yesterday teh Customer Service dept. was Email only, and the phone wagering line said BI was closed but they would still take our bets. TODAY, I call and get Ryan, who tells of GOOD NEWS and that negotiations are underway as a new buyer is promising....why bs me at this point?  Figure we may have new life.  I love the dogs and we have a live dog here, I got BI +375.

    The live dog you mentioned is a dead dog..it was euthanized.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2012 - 3:02 PM ET #87

    Well some hope if any at all from osga. Talked to them today. Here is the conversation:


    You are now chatting with 'Dave'

    Dave: Hello.  Welcome to the Off Shore Gaming Association. How may I assist you?

    you: yes I, hearing that Betislands will not be paying out. They closed down and ran with players money according to sbr. Is this true?

    Dave: no... BI is having a big issue with their GM leaving them, but they are trying very hard to fix things for players....but we still dont know how his is going to play out yet

    you: k sbr and bangthebook is saying all Betislands players are screwed. Thats why I was wondering

    Dave: theyre jumping the gun

    you: k ty

    “You don’t get what you hope for, you get what you work for!”
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    Well some hope if any at all from osga. Talked to them today. Here is the conversation:


    You are now chatting with 'Dave'

    Dave: Hello.  Welcome to the Off Shore Gaming Association. How may I assist you?

    you: yes I, hearing that Betislands will not be paying out. They closed down and ran with players money according to sbr. Is this true?

    Dave: no... BI is having a big issue with their GM leaving them, but they are trying very hard to fix things for players....but we still dont know how his is going to play out yet

    you: k sbr and bangthebook is saying all Betislands players are screwed. Thats why I was wondering

    Dave: theyre jumping the gun

    you: k ty

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2012 - 10:07 PM ET #88

    They are done. Website gone. Bye Bye.
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    They are done. Website gone. Bye Bye.
     
    Michael990
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2012 - 4:14 AM ET #89

    I think it's time we move on. All these false hope posts are just making things worse. 
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    I think it's time we move on. All these false hope posts are just making things worse. 
     
    PGAromes82
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2012 - 9:30 AM ET #90

    Very true. But hope is what keeps us going in life lol
    “You don’t get what you hope for, you get what you work for!”
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    Very true. But hope is what keeps us going in life lol
     
    PhantomFlag
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2012 - 9:44 AM ET #91

    I cannot get over it, every day you log in or call in bets, win some lose some, and bam, gone, no website and no access to the money I built up fair and square?  I am just puzzled how that can happen without at least getting whats owed to me?  We have Gaming Commission this and Covers that and SBR, is it all just a lie?  NONE of these have answers or care to even look into this it seems, I have to think over 100 grand in Gamblers money is on the run somewhere.  Man to think I bought into that outfit, the people were great, evidently lying up to the last day, that is where I just feel dirty and naive.  1100 bucks isalot of money to me I cannot just let go.
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    I cannot get over it, every day you log in or call in bets, win some lose some, and bam, gone, no website and no access to the money I built up fair and square?  I am just puzzled how that can happen without at least getting whats owed to me?  We have Gaming Commission this and Covers that and SBR, is it all just a lie?  NONE of these have answers or care to even look into this it seems, I have to think over 100 grand in Gamblers money is on the run somewhere.  Man to think I bought into that outfit, the people were great, evidently lying up to the last day, that is where I just feel dirty and naive.  1100 bucks isalot of money to me I cannot just let go.
     
     
    PGAromes82
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2012 - 11:07 AM ET #92

    I deposited 400 on Sunday which at the time didn't know this shit was going on. Built it to 2400. Thats when they told me about the payout bs that everyone's heard. I just can't understand why let people deposit if you know the ship is going down. I believe they were trying to find a solution until the end. A lot of reputations on the line. If that means anything to anyone anymore. Ryan emailed me after I emailed them at that outlook email. He says they are trying to get secondary backing and will let us know when anything happens. At least he hasn't jumped ship. It still seems like they are trying to find a solution. Why would he even email me back if we were fkd? Still have hope I guess lol
    “You don’t get what you hope for, you get what you work for!”
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    I deposited 400 on Sunday which at the time didn't know this shit was going on. Built it to 2400. Thats when they told me about the payout bs that everyone's heard. I just can't understand why let people deposit if you know the ship is going down. I believe they were trying to find a solution until the end. A lot of reputations on the line. If that means anything to anyone anymore. Ryan emailed me after I emailed them at that outlook email. He says they are trying to get secondary backing and will let us know when anything happens. At least he hasn't jumped ship. It still seems like they are trying to find a solution. Why would he even email me back if we were fkd? Still have hope I guess lol
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