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    Ohio State at Oregon (01/12/2015)

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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2015 - 2:20 AM ET #51

    Quote Originally Posted by Cornholio711:

     

    Huh? That is some grade A homer BS if I ever heard it LOL Oregon had to run through the pac 10? the pac 10 is probably the worst power 5 conference in terms of defense. They only had 2 defenses in the top 25 in rush defense. #7 Stanford and #22 Washington. The next best rush D was flippin' pathetic Cal at #38. The only top 25 rushing team they had was Oregon at #17. the Big 10 had #1 Mich state, #3 PSU, #15 Michigan, and #23 Wisconsin rush defenses and the # 3, #8,#9, #18 and #20 rush offense. The B1G was FAR better vs the run, and for that matter overall. They had 4 out of the top 10 total defenses in the country. the Pac had ONE in the top FIFTY. Stanford LMAO

    Oregon may win. But there is no way that Oregon's average Defense holds OSU's running game under 250 yards without a slew of turnovers or to 17 points. OSU scored 45 ppg in a FAR better defensive conference than the PAC, only 2.2 ppg less than Oregon.

    Well, you may have me there regarding the "Homer BS" ..lol. Also, sincerely may consider upping my total on OSU for the final from 17 to 24 points, but still believe Oregon will beat them by 17-20 points and will cover the 5 1/2 to 6.  Do believe the flaw in your comparative defense argument for the PAC 12 VS BIG 10 is that again the B10 got their lofty defensive figures from playing against much "lower octane"  teams relative to the PAC 12.  BIG 10 offenses were just not that consistently strong and therefore their defenses looked deceptively stronger.  However, statistically speaking you do give a powerful argument-we will see.  Oh!, one more thing.  Did the BIG 10 team ever beat a PAC 12 team in inter-conference play in 2014?  Go Ducks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornholio711:

     

    Huh? That is some grade A homer BS if I ever heard it LOL Oregon had to run through the pac 10? the pac 10 is probably the worst power 5 conference in terms of defense. They only had 2 defenses in the top 25 in rush defense. #7 Stanford and #22 Washington. The next best rush D was flippin' pathetic Cal at #38. The only top 25 rushing team they had was Oregon at #17. the Big 10 had #1 Mich state, #3 PSU, #15 Michigan, and #23 Wisconsin rush defenses and the # 3, #8,#9, #18 and #20 rush offense. The B1G was FAR better vs the run, and for that matter overall. They had 4 out of the top 10 total defenses in the country. the Pac had ONE in the top FIFTY. Stanford LMAO

    Oregon may win. But there is no way that Oregon's average Defense holds OSU's running game under 250 yards without a slew of turnovers or to 17 points. OSU scored 45 ppg in a FAR better defensive conference than the PAC, only 2.2 ppg less than Oregon.

    Well, you may have me there regarding the "Homer BS" ..lol. Also, sincerely may consider upping my total on OSU for the final from 17 to 24 points, but still believe Oregon will beat them by 17-20 points and will cover the 5 1/2 to 6.  Do believe the flaw in your comparative defense argument for the PAC 12 VS BIG 10 is that again the B10 got their lofty defensive figures from playing against much "lower octane"  teams relative to the PAC 12.  BIG 10 offenses were just not that consistently strong and therefore their defenses looked deceptively stronger.  However, statistically speaking you do give a powerful argument-we will see.  Oh!, one more thing.  Did the BIG 10 team ever beat a PAC 12 team in inter-conference play in 2014?  Go Ducks!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2015 - 5:40 AM ET #52

    Quote Originally Posted by searider72:

    Historically every time ESPN hypes one team that teams loses.  I will give you a few examples.  In last year's SB they said the SEA will not be able to stop DEN and SEA will not be able to score enough points to stay with DEN.  You know the outcome of the game.  In the previous yr's SB they said  BAL had no chance against SF and you know the outcome of that game.

    This yr they are saying that OSU will not be able to stop ORE and Mariota.  And ORE will stop OSU and win in a blow out.  They said ORE will score TD stop OSU score TD stop OSU score TD and very quickly ORE will be up 21.

    History repeats itself.  Look at this yr's baseball, SF won the WS on the even yrs.  Believe it or not it happens.  Just something to think about.  If history repeats itself again OSU should be the play.
    maybe the lamest analysis ever. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by searider72:

    Historically every time ESPN hypes one team that teams loses.  I will give you a few examples.  In last year's SB they said the SEA will not be able to stop DEN and SEA will not be able to score enough points to stay with DEN.  You know the outcome of the game.  In the previous yr's SB they said  BAL had no chance against SF and you know the outcome of that game.

    This yr they are saying that OSU will not be able to stop ORE and Mariota.  And ORE will stop OSU and win in a blow out.  They said ORE will score TD stop OSU score TD stop OSU score TD and very quickly ORE will be up 21.

    History repeats itself.  Look at this yr's baseball, SF won the WS on the even yrs.  Believe it or not it happens.  Just something to think about.  If history repeats itself again OSU should be the play.
    maybe the lamest analysis ever. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2015 - 8:02 AM ET #53

    OHIO STATE + 6.5
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2015 - 10:51 AM ET #54

    I WILL KEEP IT SIMPLE.

    OREGON -6
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    I WILL KEEP IT SIMPLE.

    OREGON -6
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2015 - 11:00 AM ET #55

    Every one keeps talking about Defense this defense that, there is one small variable everyone is forgetting, these guys are getting less than two weeks to prepare for each other. This is not the old days where u have over a month to prepare for each other. There is nothing ohio st can do to prepare for the hurry up offense of Oregon period. There is nothing Oregon can do to prepare for ohio st power run game period. This game will come down to who makes the fewest mistakes with turnovers and prob who has the ball last. I'm a long long time gator fan and let me tell u urban wants to light up the scoreboard every time his offense takes the field. If you wanted to see defense you saw it on the first where teams had over 3 weeks to prepare. Florida st defense in '13 was the best in the country and had a month to prepare for Aub hurry up and couldn't do it. The reason y you can't really prepare for the hurry up offenses is bc u can't mimic the pace of a team who runs it and the scout team can not give your defense a true look and the amount of reps until they see it in a game and at that point they start sucking wind and start mentally blowing assignments. Both teams are getting less than a normal BYE week ppl. FSU quit hands down when they played Oregon when the score got out of hand. This is the national championship no team will quit if they are losing handily bc both offenses have the capability to score fast and will feel they are not out of it. Expect scoring lots of it as far as who wins I will need to watch the 1st half honestly. Wish everyone well 
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    Every one keeps talking about Defense this defense that, there is one small variable everyone is forgetting, these guys are getting less than two weeks to prepare for each other. This is not the old days where u have over a month to prepare for each other. There is nothing ohio st can do to prepare for the hurry up offense of Oregon period. There is nothing Oregon can do to prepare for ohio st power run game period. This game will come down to who makes the fewest mistakes with turnovers and prob who has the ball last. I'm a long long time gator fan and let me tell u urban wants to light up the scoreboard every time his offense takes the field. If you wanted to see defense you saw it on the first where teams had over 3 weeks to prepare. Florida st defense in '13 was the best in the country and had a month to prepare for Aub hurry up and couldn't do it. The reason y you can't really prepare for the hurry up offenses is bc u can't mimic the pace of a team who runs it and the scout team can not give your defense a true look and the amount of reps until they see it in a game and at that point they start sucking wind and start mentally blowing assignments. Both teams are getting less than a normal BYE week ppl. FSU quit hands down when they played Oregon when the score got out of hand. This is the national championship no team will quit if they are losing handily bc both offenses have the capability to score fast and will feel they are not out of it. Expect scoring lots of it as far as who wins I will need to watch the 1st half honestly. Wish everyone well 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2015 - 11:09 AM ET #56

    Quote Originally Posted by gmancha:

    Come on guys, Most of you said Alabama would beat Ohio St and look what happed. There is know way Oregon will win this game Ohio St is way to physical for Oregon take the points here you will be glad you did............ 

    I agree with this very sound thinking...GL man

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmancha:

    Come on guys, Most of you said Alabama would beat Ohio St and look what happed. There is know way Oregon will win this game Ohio St is way to physical for Oregon take the points here you will be glad you did............ 

    I agree with this very sound thinking...GL man

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2015 - 1:28 PM ET #57

    Ohio State 
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2015 - 1:38 PM ET #58

    Ohio State wins outright.  42-28  <- Under

    Aside from Urban's ability to out coach, the Ducks are down two starters from failing drug tests.  They love that herb.

    OSU skunked Wisconsin (arguably top running game) and hung more than 50 on their defense.

    Since starting this post, the line has dropped a point and the O/U has dropped a point and a half.

    Get on OSU +7 and under 74, if there are any books still offering it.

    Good luck all.


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    Ohio State wins outright.  42-28  <- Under

    Aside from Urban's ability to out coach, the Ducks are down two starters from failing drug tests.  They love that herb.

    OSU skunked Wisconsin (arguably top running game) and hung more than 50 on their defense.

    Since starting this post, the line has dropped a point and the O/U has dropped a point and a half.

    Get on OSU +7 and under 74, if there are any books still offering it.

    Good luck all.


     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2015 - 1:46 PM ET #59

    When.  I say .. WHEN!!!!!!!!!

    When has any team beat Wisconsin 59-0 EVER?


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    When.  I say .. WHEN!!!!!!!!!

    When has any team beat Wisconsin 59-0 EVER?


     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2015 - 2:01 PM ET #60

    Ohio St. beat Alabama, Wisconsin, Minnesota and Michigan St. In my opinion, the Oregon victories this season aren't as impressive. Florida St. was not that good this year and did not belong in the field of four, so the blowout wasn't that impressive. Cardale Jones is a beast! He stepped up against the Alabama Defense and fought like a champ. Marcus Mariota already got his prize with the Heisman. The only question for me is do I take the points or go with the money line. Good luck everyone.
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    Ohio St. beat Alabama, Wisconsin, Minnesota and Michigan St. In my opinion, the Oregon victories this season aren't as impressive. Florida St. was not that good this year and did not belong in the field of four, so the blowout wasn't that impressive. Cardale Jones is a beast! He stepped up against the Alabama Defense and fought like a champ. Marcus Mariota already got his prize with the Heisman. The only question for me is do I take the points or go with the money line. Good luck everyone.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2015 - 2:48 PM ET #61

    I had Oregon to cover versus Florida St., based on the fact that the Seminoles had not seen a team that fast and multi dimensional, but today I'm going with the Buckeyes who are equally balanced and have a defense that can give up points but also provide something Oergon has not dealt with this season. Both D's are prone to getting busted up. This will be a great game, two damn good coaches and great players, not touching the total
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    I had Oregon to cover versus Florida St., based on the fact that the Seminoles had not seen a team that fast and multi dimensional, but today I'm going with the Buckeyes who are equally balanced and have a defense that can give up points but also provide something Oergon has not dealt with this season. Both D's are prone to getting busted up. This will be a great game, two damn good coaches and great players, not touching the total
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2015 - 3:14 PM ET #62

    I live on the west coast, and would love to take the ducks in this game if not for one little thing that I seen back in 2009 with a little team from salt lake city, Utah. (The Utah Utes) and an up and coming coach named, Urban Meyer.  If he was able to do that I know he will have his guys ready for tonight...

    No. 7 Utah beats No. 4 Alabama 31-17 in Sugar Bowl

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    I live on the west coast, and would love to take the ducks in this game if not for one little thing that I seen back in 2009 with a little team from salt lake city, Utah. (The Utah Utes) and an up and coming coach named, Urban Meyer.  If he was able to do that I know he will have his guys ready for tonight...

    No. 7 Utah beats No. 4 Alabama 31-17 in Sugar Bowl

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2015 - 3:43 PM ET #63

    Quote Originally Posted by hambone:

    urban did the same thing on defense  that  saban did to teabo in 2009 against  bama last  week  .and will  have  the same game  plan for org.they will not  allow  marriota  to run the football. He will  have to stand tall in the  pocket  and beat the bucks throwing. Sims could  not  do it  and  i dont think  marriota can either. 

    Your not comparing Sims to Marriota. Are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hambone:

    urban did the same thing on defense  that  saban did to teabo in 2009 against  bama last  week  .and will  have  the same game  plan for org.they will not  allow  marriota  to run the football. He will  have to stand tall in the  pocket  and beat the bucks throwing. Sims could  not  do it  and  i dont think  marriota can either. 

    Your not comparing Sims to Marriota. Are you?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2015 - 4:11 PM ET #64

    Quote Originally Posted by earth1:

    I live on the west coast, and would love to take the ducks in this game if not for one little thing that I seen back in 2009 with a little team from salt lake city, Utah. (The Utah Utes) and an up and coming coach named, Urban Meyer.  If he was able to do that I know he will have his guys ready for tonight...

    No. 7 Utah beats No. 4 Alabama 31-17 in Sugar Bowl



    Kyle Whittingham was the coach... Meyer left Utah in 2004 you crazy a$$hole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by earth1:

    I live on the west coast, and would love to take the ducks in this game if not for one little thing that I seen back in 2009 with a little team from salt lake city, Utah. (The Utah Utes) and an up and coming coach named, Urban Meyer.  If he was able to do that I know he will have his guys ready for tonight...

    No. 7 Utah beats No. 4 Alabama 31-17 in Sugar Bowl



    Kyle Whittingham was the coach... Meyer left Utah in 2004 you crazy a$$hole.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2015 - 4:45 PM ET #65

    Quote Originally Posted by midnightrambler:

    I agree Oregon has faced better competition all year and covered huge spreads . Ohio State has looked great the last 2 games but they struggled to cover the large spread against inferior Big 10  opponents all year.   I think Oregan wins by 14, good luck.
    Inferior league?The Big Ten conference have more bowl wins next to Pac12.Meyer win have his team ready to roll,got money? Go with the better coached team  and a team I thought was slow of foot,but this teams got speed,the kind of speed Meyers got when he was in the SEC.BUCKEYES IS THE ONLY PLAY AND PLAY THEM STRAIGHT UP TO WIN!!Just notice you have Oregaon by what?14 points.....one question ...WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN SMOKING DUDE???
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    Quote Originally Posted by midnightrambler:

    I agree Oregon has faced better competition all year and covered huge spreads . Ohio State has looked great the last 2 games but they struggled to cover the large spread against inferior Big 10  opponents all year.   I think Oregan wins by 14, good luck.
    Inferior league?The Big Ten conference have more bowl wins next to Pac12.Meyer win have his team ready to roll,got money? Go with the better coached team  and a team I thought was slow of foot,but this teams got speed,the kind of speed Meyers got when he was in the SEC.BUCKEYES IS THE ONLY PLAY AND PLAY THEM STRAIGHT UP TO WIN!!Just notice you have Oregaon by what?14 points.....one question ...WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN SMOKING DUDE???
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2015 - 4:46 PM ET #66

    Your right 2005 the Utes beat pit. Under Meyer but that's what he will do again, plus I don't trust the refs for this game?
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    Your right 2005 the Utes beat pit. Under Meyer but that's what he will do again, plus I don't trust the refs for this game?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2015 - 5:00 PM ET #67

    Quote Originally Posted by earth1:

    Your right 2005 the Utes beat pit. Under Meyer but that's what he will do again, plus I don't trust the refs for this game?


    I do give the Buckeyes the advantage here.. team that probably shouldn't even be here. US against the world mentality with Urban Meyer on your sidelines? That defense will not be intimidated by the speed of Oregon.. they practice against the up-tempo style everyday against their own Offense. I think it's going to be one hellofa game.

    Give me THEE Ohio St +7 and UNDER 74

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    Quote Originally Posted by earth1:

    Your right 2005 the Utes beat pit. Under Meyer but that's what he will do again, plus I don't trust the refs for this game?


    I do give the Buckeyes the advantage here.. team that probably shouldn't even be here. US against the world mentality with Urban Meyer on your sidelines? That defense will not be intimidated by the speed of Oregon.. they practice against the up-tempo style everyday against their own Offense. I think it's going to be one hellofa game.

    Give me THEE Ohio St +7 and UNDER 74

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2015 - 5:16 PM ET #68

    BUCKEYES
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    BUCKEYES
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2015 - 5:16 PM ET #69

    OVER IN PATS GAME
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    OVER IN PATS GAME
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2015 - 5:42 PM ET #70

    Ohio St - 38 Oregon 34   Take Ohio St and Under
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    Ohio St - 38 Oregon 34   Take Ohio St and Under
     
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    Lets start off with an objective fact - the SEC is the most overrated, overhyped conference in football.

    Lets face it, if the buckeyes are really that good would they be getting a touchdown?

    OSU +7 is way too inviting two weeks in a row. Remember they were +850 to win before the bama game, those tickets RARELY pay out.

    Oregon Moneyline for a chunk.

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    Lets start off with an objective fact - the SEC is the most overrated, overhyped conference in football.

    Lets face it, if the buckeyes are really that good would they be getting a touchdown?

    OSU +7 is way too inviting two weeks in a row. Remember they were +850 to win before the bama game, those tickets RARELY pay out.

    Oregon Moneyline for a chunk.

     
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    Beating Bama and still getting a touchdown? I'm not biting.

     

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    Beating Bama and still getting a touchdown? I'm not biting.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadeInDetroit:

    Lets start off with an objective fact - the SEC is the most overrated, overhyped conference in football.

    Lets face it, if the buckeyes are really that good would they be getting a touchdown?

    OSU +7 is way too inviting two weeks in a row. Remember they were +850 to win before the bama game, those tickets RARELY pay out.

    Oregon Moneyline for a chunk.


    Make sense !....Even if vegas set Ohio State +1 or 2, I would still think many public ppl still taking OHIO ST. ...because URBAN MYERS....factor!!!....+ 7 and +200 ....Blow out Alert!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadeInDetroit:

    Lets start off with an objective fact - the SEC is the most overrated, overhyped conference in football.

    Lets face it, if the buckeyes are really that good would they be getting a touchdown?

    OSU +7 is way too inviting two weeks in a row. Remember they were +850 to win before the bama game, those tickets RARELY pay out.

    Oregon Moneyline for a chunk.


    Make sense !....Even if vegas set Ohio State +1 or 2, I would still think many public ppl still taking OHIO ST. ...because URBAN MYERS....factor!!!....+ 7 and +200 ....Blow out Alert!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2015 - 6:53 PM ET #74

    Guys, I said it before and I will say it again. Fade the colonels picks for a chicken dinner. O-H-I-O WINNER WINNER.

    sorry Oregon takers, you don't know BUCKEYE POWER FOOTBALL.
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    Guys, I said it before and I will say it again. Fade the colonels picks for a chicken dinner. O-H-I-O WINNER WINNER.

    sorry Oregon takers, you don't know BUCKEYE POWER FOOTBALL.
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2015 - 7:16 PM ET #75

    1st half under 37.5 BOL

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    1st half under 37.5 BOL

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