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#26
Personally, I will wait for the second half. Last year, USC was laying 12 at home with a future #1 DC QB.
This year, the line is 7 at Columbus with a Frosh QB... Yikes.....
would love for USC bettors to keep driving this line up..
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#27
Quote Originally Posted by runlagos:
so i can place a bet on the buckeyes. careful OSU's "weak" game against navy doesnt nip you in the rear on saturday cause this dog has bite!
woof woof 
Same shit was being said last year, and what happened. I dont think most people are on USC because of how OSU played against Navy. I think its based on talent. Where's the talent on OSU? Where? Show me.
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#28
Quote Originally Posted by Trooper64:
Personally, I will wait for the second half. Last year, USC was laying 12 at home with a future #1 DC QB.
This year, the line is 7 at Columbus with a Frosh QB... Yikes.....
Interesting you'd mention the future #1 DC QB. Most people were dogging Sanchez going into that game. I had to convince people he was the real deal. Barkley will be fine. I just dont see OSU stopping the run. No way.
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#29
westcoast,
they played at USC. there is such a big difference. also pryor was a true freshman. the pick 6 in that game was huge too.
im not saying OSU's team is stellar this year or worthy of their #6? ranking.. but USC's is not one of their best teams in recent years either.
personally im staying away from the game, but id be happy taking the points with OSU, and if they get crushed.. well they get crushed and everyone still has the same opinions about OSU and the Big 10.
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#30
I understand its on the road, thats one of 2 fears going into this game. But instead of it being 35-3, I see it being closer, somewhere in the 10-13 area.
Listen, OSU doesnt have any talent. Lets be real. If they did, I wouldnt be this confident. I'm usually not confident with my teams. I'm nervous Nelly. But I dont see anything on OSU that qualifies as studs. You can look up and down USC's roster and see #1 draft picks.
Someone, please tell me where the talent is. I dont want to hear about Herron or Saine. They are whackalicious.
People want to say USC has all the pressure going into this game, I think the opposite. When does USC ever feel pressure? You want to know what pressure is? Pressure is OSU fearful of losing this game and getting banged on by everyone about their lack of speed, about the weak Big 10, etc. Thats pressure. How many more games are we going to talk about OSU cant lose this game because its just too important for them and the Big 10?
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#31
So where is the talent on OSU? I'm leaning on the home dog in this match up, but for the love of the game, where's the talent on this team?
Regarding USC, how about their defense? We all know they lost a lot. The D-line played well, but I'm not sold on their lbs yet. The secondary should be solid again.
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#32
Quote Originally Posted by kickinA:
So where is the talent on OSU? I'm leaning on the home dog in this match up, but for the love of the game, where's the talent on this team?
Regarding USC, how about their defense? We all know they lost a lot. The D-line played well, but I'm not sold on their lbs yet. The secondary should be solid again.
I've said it in the past, USC's linebackers are a big question mark, especially against a guy like TP. Gallippo is a stud. All American LB before he's done. But after that, I dont really like them that much. Not sold on Morgan, Smith, and freshmen Jones. But thats why I expect Taylor Mays to play closer to the line. USC's best attack would be to stack the line with 8 guys. Dare TP to throw on them.
I expect USC to play a little dirty this game. They've been talkign about putting the hurt on TP, not because they dislike him, but because its the only way to stop him.
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#33
People don't need to worry bout Barkley because Carroll won't even call on him to do much. Navy ran down THE Ohio State's defense and you're looking at a USC backfield six deep with the best offensive line in the country getting All-American Kris O'Dowd back this week.
Barkley started off rough last week but once they started running playaction and getting him outside the pocket, he did very well.
And Pryor is as athletic of a QB that USC has seen since Vince Young...but a lot of people don't know that the linebacking core that USC has this year is the quickest that Pete Carroll has ever fielded. They don't have the size that last year's core had but their overall team speed on defense is amazing. And last time I checked, Navy's defense was undersized and played pretty well.
Even the OSU faithful are expecting a blowout...
https://www.dispatch.com/live/content/sports/stories/2009/09/08/arace_9-8.ART_ART_09-08-09_C1_VFF0KF2.html?type=rss&cat=&sid=101
USC has dominated the Big-10 since 2001 and it really doesn't matter when or where they play. Carroll gets his team fired up for these games against ranked teams. He fails against inferior opponents so I really don't see a lull coming from this USC squad this coming week. Taking USC big on this one.
Barkley started off rough last week but once they started running playaction and getting him outside the pocket, he did very well.
And Pryor is as athletic of a QB that USC has seen since Vince Young...but a lot of people don't know that the linebacking core that USC has this year is the quickest that Pete Carroll has ever fielded. They don't have the size that last year's core had but their overall team speed on defense is amazing. And last time I checked, Navy's defense was undersized and played pretty well.
Even the OSU faithful are expecting a blowout...
https://www.dispatch.com/live/content/sports/stories/2009/09/08/arace_9-8.ART_ART_09-08-09_C1_VFF0KF2.html?type=rss&cat=&sid=101
USC has dominated the Big-10 since 2001 and it really doesn't matter when or where they play. Carroll gets his team fired up for these games against ranked teams. He fails against inferior opponents so I really don't see a lull coming from this USC squad this coming week. Taking USC big on this one.
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#36
Quote Originally Posted by runlagos:
westcoast,
thats exactly my point... OSU doesnt really have the pressure, cause they are already at the low of lows. they are hungry.
OSU doesnt have the pressure? What? You think they enjoy being clowned because of their failures in big time games? You think they like being called slow?
They have all the pressure in the world.
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#38
Any chance we see OSU go 4 wide and run the spread vs USC the entire game, not just a few possessions? I think it is the only way they have a chance to win. Short passes or Pryor running for 5-6 yards because the defense has to at least man up on the receivers. This could minimize OSU's O line problems. USC has not been that great against the spread. I know OSU will run the spread at times, but I mean the entire game they run the spread. I clearly am not an expert and have never coached in my life, but that just seems to be the only chance they have offensively to get a W. Any thoughts?????
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#41
Quote Originally Posted by ValueforRent:
Apparently nobody from the state of California is allowed to say anything bad about the Trojans. I must have missed the memo.
Apparently nobody from the state of California is allowed to say anything bad about the Trojans. I must have missed the memo.
Yes you've missed the memo. This Californian is leaning toward OSU in this game. (Value-wise)
And yes, most of the pressure is on OSU in this game. Here's their chance to show everyone that they belong with the elites, with this game on their turf and to move up from their #6 ranking by finally upstaging the Big 12 killer that has been USC.
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#42
I've been looking for talent on OSU's roster and can't seem to find any that is noticeable. Perhaps I'm looking in the wrong place. Conspiracy theorists will tell you that the talent lies within the officiating crew. McKnight breaks one for 50 yrds, but hold on a minute, there's a holding call on the offense. 
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#43
Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Insight:
Any chance we see OSU go 4 wide and run the spread vs USC the entire game, not just a few possessions? I think it is the only way they have a chance to win. Short passes or Pryor running for 5-6 yards because the defense has to at least man up on the receivers. This could minimize OSU's O line problems. USC has not been that great against the spread. I know OSU will run the spread at times, but I mean the entire game they run the spread. I clearly am not an expert and have never coached in my life, but that just seems to be the only chance they have offensively to get a W. Any thoughts?????
I do think we will see alot of empty backfield looks from OSU this weekend. However, the best chance OSU has to win this game is to get up early, which will nuetralize the USC run game, and make Barkley throw the ball. If the Buckeyes get up early (14 points) I like their chances. If USC gets up early its gonna be a long day for OSU linebackers. USC will run the ball until OSU proves that they can stop it.
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#44
HOME FIELD is crucial in this game...along with QB experience...in LAST YEARS GAME USC had home field and the QB experience...this year OHIO ST has both...obviously im not saying it will be a OSU blowout...but a true freshman QB in the shoe...if it gets to OHIO +7.5 ill take my chances...good read runlagos
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#45
Quote Originally Posted by Godfather16:
USC is way over-rated , again, and this one is on the road. They have struggled vs far weaker teams the past few years, Or st, Zona, Wash, to name a few. They blow out SJ st who is just terrible, and people think USC is invincible, UFB. But this is why the books make so much money, and they simply love some of you suckers...
USC is way over-rated , again, and this one is on the road. They have struggled vs far weaker teams the past few years, Or st, Zona, Wash, to name a few. They blow out SJ st who is just terrible, and people think USC is invincible, UFB. But this is why the books make so much money, and they simply love some of you suckers...
Wow, how ironic is this statement.
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#46
Quote Originally Posted by ValueforRent:
Apparently nobody from the state of California is allowed to say anything bad about the Trojans. I must have missed the memo.
Apparently nobody from the state of California is allowed to say anything bad about the Trojans. I must have missed the memo.
Well, good to know you just look at someones location and think they are biased. I'm far from biased. I'm one of the most reasonable fans out there. Pessimistic actually. I always think USC's going to be in trouble. People here will back me up and say I dont lean USC's way because thats my team.
But do me a favor, instead of looking at someone's location and writing them off as being a homer, tell me what OSU has, talent wise.
I'm still waiting for someone to answer that questions.
So far, the only advantage is Pryor and playing at home. Playing at home is a huge advantage, but what else?
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#47
Quote Originally Posted by westcoastTrojan:
But do me a favor, instead of looking at someone's location and writing them off as being a homer, tell me what OSU has, talent wise.
I'm still waiting for someone to answer that questions.
So far, the only advantage is Pryor and playing at home. Playing at home is a huge advantage, but what else?
I believe the biggest argument to back OSU is that a freshman QB is starting in the "shoe." That is the only conclusion I can come up with, but Barkley will not be asked to win this game. USC will dominate the line of scrimmage and run the ball at will....and this is coming from a CAL fan.
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#50
Quote Originally Posted by westcoastTrojan:
Yeah, but thats not enough for someone to be on OSU. There is a big disparity in talent here. BIG. And Barkley playing at OSU doesnt make me nervous one bit. Like you said, USC will run down their throats with that oline.
And I still dont like Jahvid :)
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