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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2011 - 9:05 AM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by jwill1532:

    Jahovawitness u should been coach if it that easy to stop them. Notre Dame and Northwestern could used you.

    If you dont think ND blows Michigan out at home you too are retarded

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwill1532:

    Jahovawitness u should been coach if it that easy to stop them. Notre Dame and Northwestern could used you.

    If you dont think ND blows Michigan out at home you too are retarded

     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2011 - 9:05 AM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by HUESARE:

    Everyones betting on Michigan State, thats why i like Michigan +3 (which by the way is a very good and competitive team)

    Same as 2 weeks before when everyone liked Georgia Tech and didnt cover.

    How do you figure that? the line went from 3 to 1 and now is at 2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HUESARE:

    Everyones betting on Michigan State, thats why i like Michigan +3 (which by the way is a very good and competitive team)

    Same as 2 weeks before when everyone liked Georgia Tech and didnt cover.

    How do you figure that? the line went from 3 to 1 and now is at 2?

     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2011 - 9:07 AM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by Sosana:

    MSU  

    Get the couches ready!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sosana:

    MSU  

    Get the couches ready!!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2011 - 11:23 AM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by vibo:

    State lost 31-13 to Notre Dame and Michigan beat Notre Dame 35-31. I f you use logic Michigan should beat State to a suspect offense who only scored 10 against a garbage OSU TEAM.....



      This is downright laughable.  If you choose to use this as a way to determine who to bet on...............dude, you're gonna lose a lot of money in your lifetime.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by vibo:

    State lost 31-13 to Notre Dame and Michigan beat Notre Dame 35-31. I f you use logic Michigan should beat State to a suspect offense who only scored 10 against a garbage OSU TEAM.....



      This is downright laughable.  If you choose to use this as a way to determine who to bet on...............dude, you're gonna lose a lot of money in your lifetime.  
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2011 - 11:30 AM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by jwill1532:

    Very bad Western michgan team??? Shows how much you know about football. They have won every game and covered every game since the Michigan game. Not saying Michigan going win but you are wrong about that part.

     No doubt that Western Michigan is very solid. I dont know what this guy is talking about. I was going to comment on that point but you beat me to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwill1532:

    Very bad Western michgan team??? Shows how much you know about football. They have won every game and covered every game since the Michigan game. Not saying Michigan going win but you are wrong about that part.

     No doubt that Western Michigan is very solid. I dont know what this guy is talking about. I was going to comment on that point but you beat me to it.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2011 - 1:08 PM ET #31

    Western mich will win there conference. San Diego St not bad either who they beat. Not sure who if Mich st beat that is anygood beside ohio st. Like i said if i had bet i say Mich st and I am michigan fan
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    Western mich will win there conference. San Diego St not bad either who they beat. Not sure who if Mich st beat that is anygood beside ohio st. Like i said if i had bet i say Mich st and I am michigan fan
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2011 - 1:13 PM ET #32

    Jahovawitness kind like Mich St did???????????? Mich St offense going have play better to win. Dont think they scored in Yongstown game to minute before halftime.
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    Jahovawitness kind like Mich St did???????????? Mich St offense going have play better to win. Dont think they scored in Yongstown game to minute before halftime.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2011 - 1:19 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by SatNightFever05:



    who would ever use that logic??    
    The young and simple minded...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SatNightFever05:



    who would ever use that logic??    
    The young and simple minded...
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2011 - 1:22 PM ET #34

    i'm not betting on this game... but to be honest... after reading your incredibly misinformed write-up, i am tempted to bet on Michigan...


    in fact, your write-up is so bad and so off base, i actually think Michigan must be a great bet this week...
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    i'm not betting on this game... but to be honest... after reading your incredibly misinformed write-up, i am tempted to bet on Michigan...


    in fact, your write-up is so bad and so off base, i actually think Michigan must be a great bet this week...
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2011 - 2:02 PM ET #35

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    Witness.  Did somebody shoot your puppy?  Damn bro, you're a bit harsh.  First of all, the turnovers in the redzone by ND the game vs Michigan where not the coaches fault.  Resse actually checked out of two running plays that were called by the coaches.  The play when he tried to throw the fade to Floyd on the 10 yard line was actually called a run.  Reese checked out of it and then lost the ball in his throwing motion.

    Second.  As I have said on this board before, those passes Drob throws up are pre-determined.  You can call them prayers, but Al Borges has been doing this a long, long time.  He knows more football than this board combined.  I'm sure he doesn't tell Drob, "Hey, how about we just throw the ball up and cross our fingers..." It's all about watching film.  If you have Roy Roundtree and Hemmingway, and you think your guys can out jump the defenders, then you give them the chance.  The first "prayer" in the ND game was caught for a touchdown.  The second one was also caught for a 50 yard gain at midfield..  So the proof was in the pudding.  Michigan kept going back to their "prayers" b/c ND couldn't stop it.  Had ND been able to make a fucking play on the ball, maybe Michigan would have stopped doing it. 

    Lastly, I love how everybody thinks Michigan just runs Denard and because of that, they suck...  First off, they have about 7 different combinations of him running the ball. And why wouldn't you?  He is only the one of the most dynamic players on the field every game.  They can run QB trap, QB counter, QB sweep, QB Draw.  They are all out of different formations, with different blocking schemes up front.  It's no different than doing it will a lead back like Edwin Baker or Marcus Lattimore.  Yet, when a team does it with a tailback they are considered to have a "stout run game".  When Michigan does it, all they have is Denard.  It's such a laughable arguement.

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    Witness.  Did somebody shoot your puppy?  Damn bro, you're a bit harsh.  First of all, the turnovers in the redzone by ND the game vs Michigan where not the coaches fault.  Resse actually checked out of two running plays that were called by the coaches.  The play when he tried to throw the fade to Floyd on the 10 yard line was actually called a run.  Reese checked out of it and then lost the ball in his throwing motion.

    Second.  As I have said on this board before, those passes Drob throws up are pre-determined.  You can call them prayers, but Al Borges has been doing this a long, long time.  He knows more football than this board combined.  I'm sure he doesn't tell Drob, "Hey, how about we just throw the ball up and cross our fingers..." It's all about watching film.  If you have Roy Roundtree and Hemmingway, and you think your guys can out jump the defenders, then you give them the chance.  The first "prayer" in the ND game was caught for a touchdown.  The second one was also caught for a 50 yard gain at midfield..  So the proof was in the pudding.  Michigan kept going back to their "prayers" b/c ND couldn't stop it.  Had ND been able to make a fucking play on the ball, maybe Michigan would have stopped doing it. 

    Lastly, I love how everybody thinks Michigan just runs Denard and because of that, they suck...  First off, they have about 7 different combinations of him running the ball. And why wouldn't you?  He is only the one of the most dynamic players on the field every game.  They can run QB trap, QB counter, QB sweep, QB Draw.  They are all out of different formations, with different blocking schemes up front.  It's no different than doing it will a lead back like Edwin Baker or Marcus Lattimore.  Yet, when a team does it with a tailback they are considered to have a "stout run game".  When Michigan does it, all they have is Denard.  It's such a laughable arguement.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2011 - 3:17 PM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by rLp:

    Witness.  Did somebody shoot your puppy?  Damn bro, you're a bit harsh.  First of all, the turnovers in the redzone by ND the game vs Michigan where not the coaches fault.  Resse actually checked out of two running plays that were called by the coaches.  The play when he tried to throw the fade to Floyd on the 10 yard line was actually called a run.  Reese checked out of it and then lost the ball in his throwing motion.

    So it isnt on the coaches that they allow him to audible there or ever? Would a good coach let this happen?

     

    Second.  As I have said on this board before, those passes Drob throws up are pre-determined.  You can call them prayers, but Al Borges has been doing this a long, long time.  He knows more football than this board combined.  I'm sure he doesn't tell Drob, "Hey, how about we just throw the ball up and cross our fingers..." It's all about watching film.  If you have Roy Roundtree and Hemmingway, and you think your guys can out jump the defenders, then you give them the chance.  The first "prayer" in the ND game was caught for a touchdown.  The second one was also caught for a 50 yard gain at midfield..  So the proof was in the pudding.  Michigan kept going back to their "prayers" b/c ND couldn't stop it.  Had ND been able to make a fucking play on the ball, maybe Michigan would have stopped doing it. 

    What else was Michigan to do? they were getting worked! If ND had been coached better the outcome is alot diffrent imo. 

    Lastly, I love how everybody thinks Michigan just runs Denard and because of that, they suck...  First off, they have about 7 different combinations of him running the ball. And why wouldn't you?  He is only the one of the most dynamic players on the field every game.  They can run QB trap, QB counter, QB sweep, QB Draw.  They are all out of different formations, with different blocking schemes up front.  It's no different than doing it will a lead back like Edwin Baker or Marcus Lattimore.  Yet, when a team does it with a tailback they are considered to have a "stout run game".  When Michigan does it, all they have is Denard.  It's such a laughable arguement.

    So running with a lead fullback with a TB and 2 TE is the same as the wildcat? If your wondering why people say, all they have is denard, its because its all they do have. If not, then explain the other stud runner or big playmaker is on thier offense.

    Im not saying Michigan cant win i just think they are going to have a hard time with a physical team, which is exactly what happened last year with the same players. went undefeated, state routed them at home and then they went on to lose almost all of the rest of thier games to b10 teams that play physical.

    PS my dog didnt die, im trying to save you kncukleheads some money by betting on Michigan.. And make you some by betting on Bronze and Black.

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by rLp:

    Witness.  Did somebody shoot your puppy?  Damn bro, you're a bit harsh.  First of all, the turnovers in the redzone by ND the game vs Michigan where not the coaches fault.  Resse actually checked out of two running plays that were called by the coaches.  The play when he tried to throw the fade to Floyd on the 10 yard line was actually called a run.  Reese checked out of it and then lost the ball in his throwing motion.

    So it isnt on the coaches that they allow him to audible there or ever? Would a good coach let this happen?

     

    Second.  As I have said on this board before, those passes Drob throws up are pre-determined.  You can call them prayers, but Al Borges has been doing this a long, long time.  He knows more football than this board combined.  I'm sure he doesn't tell Drob, "Hey, how about we just throw the ball up and cross our fingers..." It's all about watching film.  If you have Roy Roundtree and Hemmingway, and you think your guys can out jump the defenders, then you give them the chance.  The first "prayer" in the ND game was caught for a touchdown.  The second one was also caught for a 50 yard gain at midfield..  So the proof was in the pudding.  Michigan kept going back to their "prayers" b/c ND couldn't stop it.  Had ND been able to make a fucking play on the ball, maybe Michigan would have stopped doing it. 

    What else was Michigan to do? they were getting worked! If ND had been coached better the outcome is alot diffrent imo. 

    Lastly, I love how everybody thinks Michigan just runs Denard and because of that, they suck...  First off, they have about 7 different combinations of him running the ball. And why wouldn't you?  He is only the one of the most dynamic players on the field every game.  They can run QB trap, QB counter, QB sweep, QB Draw.  They are all out of different formations, with different blocking schemes up front.  It's no different than doing it will a lead back like Edwin Baker or Marcus Lattimore.  Yet, when a team does it with a tailback they are considered to have a "stout run game".  When Michigan does it, all they have is Denard.  It's such a laughable arguement.

    So running with a lead fullback with a TB and 2 TE is the same as the wildcat? If your wondering why people say, all they have is denard, its because its all they do have. If not, then explain the other stud runner or big playmaker is on thier offense.

    Im not saying Michigan cant win i just think they are going to have a hard time with a physical team, which is exactly what happened last year with the same players. went undefeated, state routed them at home and then they went on to lose almost all of the rest of thier games to b10 teams that play physical.

    PS my dog didnt die, im trying to save you kncukleheads some money by betting on Michigan.. And make you some by betting on Bronze and Black.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2011 - 3:27 PM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:

    i'm not betting on this game... but to be honest... after reading your incredibly misinformed write-up, i am tempted to bet on Michigan...


    in fact, your write-up is so bad and so off base, i actually think Michigan must be a great bet this week...

    Did you eat alot of paint chips as a kid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:

    i'm not betting on this game... but to be honest... after reading your incredibly misinformed write-up, i am tempted to bet on Michigan...


    in fact, your write-up is so bad and so off base, i actually think Michigan must be a great bet this week...

    Did you eat alot of paint chips as a kid?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by rLp:

    Second.  As I have said on this board before, those passes Drob throws up are pre-determined.  You can call them prayers, but Al Borges has been doing this a long, long time.  He knows more football than this board combined.  I'm sure he doesn't tell Drob, "Hey, how about we just throw the ball up and cross our fingers..." It's all about watching film.  If you have Roy Roundtree and Hemmingway, and you think your guys can out jump the defenders, then you give them the chance.  The first "prayer" in the ND game was caught for a touchdown.  The second one was also caught for a 50 yard gain at midfield..  So the proof was in the pudding.  Michigan kept going back to their "prayers" b/c ND couldn't stop it.  Had ND been able to make a fucking play on the ball, maybe Michigan would have stopped doing it. 

    Lastly, I love how everybody thinks Michigan just runs Denard and because of that, they suck...  First off, they have about 7 different combinations of him running the ball. And why wouldn't you?  He is only the one of the most dynamic players on the field every game.  They can run QB trap, QB counter, QB sweep, QB Draw.  They are all out of different formations, with different blocking schemes up front.  It's no different than doing it will a lead back like Edwin Baker or Marcus Lattimore.  Yet, when a team does it with a tailback they are considered to have a "stout run game".  When Michigan does it, all they have is Denard.  It's such a laughable arguement.



    you already know my stance so I'm not going to go into much detail..

    to your point 2- they probably are pre-determined, or better, Borges tells Denard if you see single coverage down the field, go ahead and trust your WRs to come down with it.. problem is, this MSU secondary is probably the best in the conference, so I'm not sure those types of throws will work more than 1 or 2 times before he throws an INT

    to your point 3- the thing with Denard is the same issue I had with him last year.. he looks great against mediocre defenses, and then, once you put him on the field with talented defenders, his production drops in half.. look at Ly- Denard was nations leading rusher going into MSU game, he was held to 86 yards on 21 carries.. MSU D has only improved.. if I was betting on UM, I wish the actual RBs would have shown me more so far.. Hoke seems to stick with running the backs until the 2nd half when UM is behind or it's a close game, then he just runs Denard 3 different ways, which is fine against the crap defenses he's faced so far, but that's not going to work against the MSU's, Iowa's, OSU's of conference play


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    Quote Originally Posted by rLp:

    Second.  As I have said on this board before, those passes Drob throws up are pre-determined.  You can call them prayers, but Al Borges has been doing this a long, long time.  He knows more football than this board combined.  I'm sure he doesn't tell Drob, "Hey, how about we just throw the ball up and cross our fingers..." It's all about watching film.  If you have Roy Roundtree and Hemmingway, and you think your guys can out jump the defenders, then you give them the chance.  The first "prayer" in the ND game was caught for a touchdown.  The second one was also caught for a 50 yard gain at midfield..  So the proof was in the pudding.  Michigan kept going back to their "prayers" b/c ND couldn't stop it.  Had ND been able to make a fucking play on the ball, maybe Michigan would have stopped doing it. 

    Lastly, I love how everybody thinks Michigan just runs Denard and because of that, they suck...  First off, they have about 7 different combinations of him running the ball. And why wouldn't you?  He is only the one of the most dynamic players on the field every game.  They can run QB trap, QB counter, QB sweep, QB Draw.  They are all out of different formations, with different blocking schemes up front.  It's no different than doing it will a lead back like Edwin Baker or Marcus Lattimore.  Yet, when a team does it with a tailback they are considered to have a "stout run game".  When Michigan does it, all they have is Denard.  It's such a laughable arguement.



    you already know my stance so I'm not going to go into much detail..

    to your point 2- they probably are pre-determined, or better, Borges tells Denard if you see single coverage down the field, go ahead and trust your WRs to come down with it.. problem is, this MSU secondary is probably the best in the conference, so I'm not sure those types of throws will work more than 1 or 2 times before he throws an INT

    to your point 3- the thing with Denard is the same issue I had with him last year.. he looks great against mediocre defenses, and then, once you put him on the field with talented defenders, his production drops in half.. look at Ly- Denard was nations leading rusher going into MSU game, he was held to 86 yards on 21 carries.. MSU D has only improved.. if I was betting on UM, I wish the actual RBs would have shown me more so far.. Hoke seems to stick with running the backs until the 2nd half when UM is behind or it's a close game, then he just runs Denard 3 different ways, which is fine against the crap defenses he's faced so far, but that's not going to work against the MSU's, Iowa's, OSU's of conference play


     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2011 - 3:50 PM ET #40

    MSU looks like the better bet on paper.

    I think Michigan wins it on emotion though.

    I think too much stake can be put into a bye week. MSU better not come out slow---the first half is when they need to bury Michigan if they want to win.
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    MSU looks like the better bet on paper.

    I think Michigan wins it on emotion though.

    I think too much stake can be put into a bye week. MSU better not come out slow---the first half is when they need to bury Michigan if they want to win.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2011 - 6:55 PM ET #41

    Witness; it's not exactly the wildcat, but I would agree with you; Robinson is the playmaker, with a bunch of B players.  Therefore, they have to design as many plays as possible to get him in the open field.  I guess my point is; it would be no different than if you designed plays for a stud Wr or Rb.  I'm not betting Michigan at all, and if anything I'm betting MSU.  I have finished my card just yet.  

    Fever: points taken.  Only time will tell throughout the season if this team can step up and make the plays against stronger defenses.  But to your point, there is no denying last year they struggled vs the better defenses.  We will find out in a hurry if they can compete at a higher level.  As for Saturday, personally I dont think they have the horses up front just yet.  If Michigan can't put themselves in 3 & 5 or shorter, it will be a long day.  That and turnovers from Denard will be a big, big story.  If throws 3 picks again, they're fucked.  
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    Witness; it's not exactly the wildcat, but I would agree with you; Robinson is the playmaker, with a bunch of B players.  Therefore, they have to design as many plays as possible to get him in the open field.  I guess my point is; it would be no different than if you designed plays for a stud Wr or Rb.  I'm not betting Michigan at all, and if anything I'm betting MSU.  I have finished my card just yet.  

    Fever: points taken.  Only time will tell throughout the season if this team can step up and make the plays against stronger defenses.  But to your point, there is no denying last year they struggled vs the better defenses.  We will find out in a hurry if they can compete at a higher level.  As for Saturday, personally I dont think they have the horses up front just yet.  If Michigan can't put themselves in 3 & 5 or shorter, it will be a long day.  That and turnovers from Denard will be a big, big story.  If throws 3 picks again, they're fucked.  
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2011 - 7:02 PM ET #42

    Michigan wins this dog fight 34-33

    And no, you haven't got a clue if you think W. Mich is bad.
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    Michigan wins this dog fight 34-33

    And no, you haven't got a clue if you think W. Mich is bad.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DynastyOne:

    really bad on offense and defense? 
     

    In order for Blue to win Robinson’s needs to run effectively and the play calls need to set up his runs...he shouldn’t pass. And they need a lead  late because there D is suspect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DynastyOne:

    really bad on offense and defense? 
     

    In order for Blue to win Robinson’s needs to run effectively and the play calls need to set up his runs...he shouldn’t pass. And they need a lead  late because there D is suspect.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2011 - 7:14 PM ET #44

    vibo nailed it...

    Notre Dame > Michigan State
    Michigan > Notre Dame
    Michigan > Michigan State

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    vibo nailed it...

    Notre Dame > Michigan State
    Michigan > Notre Dame
    Michigan > Michigan State

     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2011 - 7:49 PM ET #45

    This game is incredibly difficult to cap.  Michigan is overrated but they are a good football team.  They are explosive on offense (hate DR all you want, but even jahova witness will admit he can score at any time from anywhere on the field) and have been very solid on defense (and GREAT at forcing turnovers).  MSU is solid on both sides of the ball and are playing at home. 

    However, I believe Michigan finally has a good coach and he has changed the attitude of this team.  They arn't a joke on defense anymore and the players actually have someone they can believe in (Rodriguez was a joke).

    Ultimately, I believe Michigan will win because this senior class which has endured 3 years of embarrassment under RichRod will have to much pride to be swept by MSU.  You can't cap something like that but that is my belief.

    Good luck.

     

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    This game is incredibly difficult to cap.  Michigan is overrated but they are a good football team.  They are explosive on offense (hate DR all you want, but even jahova witness will admit he can score at any time from anywhere on the field) and have been very solid on defense (and GREAT at forcing turnovers).  MSU is solid on both sides of the ball and are playing at home. 

    However, I believe Michigan finally has a good coach and he has changed the attitude of this team.  They arn't a joke on defense anymore and the players actually have someone they can believe in (Rodriguez was a joke).

    Ultimately, I believe Michigan will win because this senior class which has endured 3 years of embarrassment under RichRod will have to much pride to be swept by MSU.  You can't cap something like that but that is my belief.

    Good luck.

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2011 - 5:22 PM ET #46

    Quote Originally Posted by oddsbuster:

    The young and simple minded...

    Good night..State kept them in the game with two t/o's...
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    Quote Originally Posted by oddsbuster:

    The young and simple minded...

    Good night..State kept them in the game with two t/o's...
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2011 - 5:23 PM ET #47

    I will be a gracious winner, will you be the same loser?
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    I will be a gracious winner, will you be the same loser?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2011 - 5:26 PM ET #48

    Quote Originally Posted by TMack012:

    This game is incredibly difficult to cap.  Michigan is overrated but they are a good football team.  They are explosive on offense (hate DR all you want, but even jahova witness will admit he can score at any time from anywhere on the field) and have been very solid on defense (and GREAT at forcing turnovers).  MSU is solid on both sides of the ball and are playing at home. 

    However, I believe Michigan finally has a good coach and he has changed the attitude of this team.  They arn't a joke on defense anymore and the players actually have someone they can believe in (Rodriguez was a joke).

    Ultimately, I believe Michigan will win because this senior class which has endured 3 years of embarrassment under RichRod will have to much pride to be swept by MSU.  You can't cap something like that but that is my belief.

    Good luck.

     

    The game is not hard to handicap, you need to know the teams and who they play...  MSU let michigan hang on with penalties and T/O's.. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by TMack012:

    This game is incredibly difficult to cap.  Michigan is overrated but they are a good football team.  They are explosive on offense (hate DR all you want, but even jahova witness will admit he can score at any time from anywhere on the field) and have been very solid on defense (and GREAT at forcing turnovers).  MSU is solid on both sides of the ball and are playing at home. 

    However, I believe Michigan finally has a good coach and he has changed the attitude of this team.  They arn't a joke on defense anymore and the players actually have someone they can believe in (Rodriguez was a joke).

    Ultimately, I believe Michigan will win because this senior class which has endured 3 years of embarrassment under RichRod will have to much pride to be swept by MSU.  You can't cap something like that but that is my belief.

    Good luck.

     

    The game is not hard to handicap, you need to know the teams and who they play...  MSU let michigan hang on with penalties and T/O's.. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2011 - 5:46 PM ET #49

    LOL
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    LOL
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2011 - 5:47 PM ET #50

    Quote Originally Posted by DynastyOne:

    really bad on offense and defense? 

    LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by DynastyOne:

    really bad on offense and defense? 

    LOL

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