Four questions immediately come to mind in this game.
Question 1 - this will pretty much be Auburn's first real road test all season. How will they handle it?
Question 2 - this should really be Issue #1, will Cam Newton play?
Question 3 - will any Auburn players be suspensioned for the fights at the end of the Georgia game (I don't think so)?
Quesion 4 - if Cam Newton does play, how will Bama's anemic offense outscore Auburn?
If Cam Newton plays in this game, and that is a gigantic "IF" at this point, I would have to lean to Auburn in this game. That is so because I think Auburn can simply outscore Bama, and I have my doubts that McElroy can expose Auburn's weaknesses on defense.
Really? I don't think this is an "IF"
Auburn isn't going to make the move and the NCAA has said it is up to the school. Seems to me, he will be playing.
SatNightFever, have you seens Auburns record in Tuscaloosa?
Nope, cause you dont know shit about Auburn or the SEC
Do our community a favor and stop posting about a team you obviously have no clue about
This will only be the 8th time in this rivalry's history that the game will be played in Tuscaloosa, and Auburn's record is 6 & 1 in the previous 7 meetings. That stat, however, will have zero effect on the outcome of this game, and could not be more meaningless.
Two of those games were played 1895 & 1901 respectively. Three of the other wins (2002, 2004 & 2006) were during Auburn's 6-game Iron Bowl winning streak while Bama was severely handicapped by NCAA santions. Auburn's 2000 9-0 victory over Bama stands as the only modern day victory in Tuscaloosa where both teams were essentially at full strength.
As I said in a previous post in this thread, if Cam Newton plays, I think Auburns wins this game, but Aurburn's previous record in Tuscaloosa will have absolutely no bearing on the outcome either way.
god jimmy, thank you for adding a bit of intelligence from the bama side of this. think about cams status this way. if they were going to sit him, they would have done it for the Georgia game. they are basically "all in" with playing him in the sense that they might as well play him the rest of the season if they have played him this far into it, and even more so after they started him against Georgia because they will have to forfeit the season one way or another if anything conrete is found against him.. he WILL be playing, i dont think you should focus on that factor anymore...now on to us having a beer when i get in town in 12 days to watch and discuss what is sure to be the best iron bowl in a long time
Really? I don't think this is an "IF"
Auburn isn't going to make the move and the NCAA has said it is up to the school. Seems to me, he will be playing.
What you are saying is essentially correct, but that does not necessarily mean Cam will play.
The NCAA does not suspend or clear players until their investigation is concluded, and this one is a long way from being concluded. But they do advise schools when the elligibility of one of their players is in question. It is up to the institution how they want to handle a player's questionable elligibility.
In this particular case Cecil Newton admitted to the NCAA on Thursday that he did solicit money from Mississippi State in exchange for his son's signature on a Letter of Intent. That pretty much confirms what 6 other people have said. The totality of that evience for all practical purposes rendered Cam Newton an inelligible player on Thursday.
Subsequent to Cecil's interview, both the SEC and the NCAA warned Auburn about the strong likelihood Cam was an inelligible player. That is why there was speculation of whether Newton would play right up to the kickoff in the Georgia game. Many people, including myself, did not believe Auburn was stupid enough to mortgage the future of their entire football program by playing a player they pretty much knew was inelligible, but that's exactly what they did. But just because they did it against Georgia, now that they've clinched the SEC West, doesn't necessarily mean they will stick another finger in the NCAA's other eye, particularly when more damning information is suppose to be coming to light in the next 72 hours or so.
The bottom line is that it is an extremely fluid situation. It is by no means a slam dunk that he will play in my humble opinion.
All the sources pretty much agreed that based on the obvious nature of Newton's inelligibility that there was no way Auburn would mortgage the future of their football program by continuing to play him. They did not believe that Auburn would give the NCAA, the SEC and college football in general the proverbial middle finger by playing him anyhow, but that's exactly what they did. I, like many others, believe that\ that move will most likely put an end to Auburn football as we know it for the next 10 years.
Thats kind of selfish. We need to be helping each other out, not straying people off with poor information.
What you are saying is essentially correct, but that does not necessarily mean Cam will play.
The NCAA does not suspend or clear players until their investigation is concluded, and this one is a long way from being concluded. But they do advise schools when the elligibility of one of their players is in question. It is up to the institution how they want to handle a player's questionable elligibility.
In this particular case Cecil Newton admitted to the NCAA on Thursday that he did solicit money from Mississippi State in exchange for his son's signature on a Letter of Intent. That pretty much confirms what 6 other people have said. The totality of that evience for all practical purposes rendered Cam Newton an inelligible player on Thursday.
Subsequent to Cecil's interview, both the SEC and the NCAA warned Auburn about the strong likelihood Cam was an inelligible player. That is why there was speculation of whether Newton would play right up to the kickoff in the Georgia game. Many people, including myself, did not believe Auburn was stupid enough to mortgage the future of their entire football program by playing a player they pretty much knew was inelligible, but that's exactly what they did. But just because they did it against Georgia, now that they've clinched the SEC West, doesn't necessarily mean they will stick another finger in the NCAA's other eye, particularly when more damning information is suppose to be coming to light in the next 72 hours or so.
The bottom line is that it is an extremely fluid situation. It is by no means a slam dunk that he will play in my humble opinion.
All the sources pretty much agreed that based on the obvious nature of Newton's inelligibility that there was no way Auburn would mortgage the future of their football program by continuing to play him. They did not believe that Auburn would give the NCAA, the SEC and college football in general the proverbial middle finger by playing him anyhow, but that's exactly what they did. I, like many others, believe that\ that move will most likely put an end to Auburn football as we know it for the next 10 years.
god jimmy, thank you for adding a bit of intelligence from the bama side of this. think about cams status this way. if they were going to sit him, they would have done it for the Georgia game. they are basically "all in" with playing him in the sense that they might as well play him the rest of the season if they have played him this far into it, and even more so after they started him against Georgia because they will have to forfeit the season one way or another if anything conrete is found against him.. he WILL be playing, i dont think you should focus on that factor anymore...now on to us having a beer when i get in town in 12 days to watch and discuss what is sure to be the best iron bowl in a long time
Not focusing on that at all, but whether he plays or not is pretty much the single biggest factor in terms of wagering this game.
Let me put it this way. The Cam Newton saga has been going on for like 9 days now. The Iron Bowl will be played in 12 days. If you don't think there will many, many ups and downs in this now daily soap opera over that period of time that may persuade Auburn to sit him, then I don't think all the alcohol has fully passed through your system from yesterday's binge.
As I type this, I agree with what you are saying. By playing Cam versus Georgia when they knew he was essentially an ineligible player gives a strong indication that they are willing to tell the NCAA to f' off the rest of the season. But what I am saying is that now that the SEC West is in hand, and given 12 more days of information drip, their may have a change of heart.
Send me a personal message bout the beer.
I respect your opinion, but I wholeheartedly disagree with it.
Any questions that existed about Cam's eligibility prior to Cecil's Thursday interview with the NCAA, completely evaporated afterwards. What Cecil told NCAA investors corroborates the accounts of no less that 6 others withnesses all of who said Cecil and Rogers were trying to sell Cam's signature. If the investigation went no farther than that, that would be more than enough for the NCAA to vacate all of Auburn's wins for the season.
The bottom line is that Auburn knowingly played a player on Saturday when there was absolutely no question he was not elligible. That will not be a factor as far as vacting wins is concerned because that is pretty much a slam dunk at this point, but it will be a huge factor when Auburn's final punishment is rendered.
I would not say that Alabama is not good. They will be entering the Iron Bowl with a record of 9 & 2 after having endured one of the most brutal schedules in college football history. The question is whether Alabama is good enough to beat Auburn, with Cam Newton, in front of their home crowd. I agree with you, I don't think they are.
I would not say that Alabama is not good. They will be entering the Iron Bowl with a record of 9 & 2 after having endured one of the most brutal schedules in college football history. The question is whether Alabama is good enough to beat Auburn, with Cam Newton, in front of their home crowd. I agree with you, I don't think they are.
lol most brutal schedule in NCAA history haaaaaaaaaaaa. they picked up duke, georgia st, penn st and san jose st out of conference. wake up man get your facts straight.
I respect your opinion, but I wholeheartedly disagree with it.
Any questions that existed about Cam's eligibility prior to Cecil's Thursday interview with the NCAA, completely evaporated afterwards. What Cecil told NCAA investors corroborates the accounts of no less that 6 others withnesses all of who said Cecil and Rogers were trying to sell Cam's signature. If the investigation went no farther than that, that would be more than enough for the NCAA to vacate all of Auburn's wins for the season.
The bottom line is that Auburn knowingly played a player on Saturday when there was absolutely no question he was not elligible. That will not be a factor as far as vacting wins is concerned because that is pretty much a slam dunk at this point, but it will be a huge factor when Auburn's final punishment is rendered.
lol most brutal schedule in NCAA history haaaaaaaaaaaa. they picked up duke, georgia st, penn st and san jose st out of conference. wake up man get your facts straight.
They will play 6 conference opponents coming off of bye weeks, in the toughest conference in college football. That is unprecendented in college football history. This season there is no other team in the country whose schedule even comes close to the brutailty of Alabama's schedule.
They will play 6 conference opponents coming off of bye weeks, in the toughest conference in college football. That is unprecendented in college football history. This season there is no other team in the country whose schedule even comes close to the brutailty of Alabama's schedule.
It was posted on almost every Auburn website I saw on Friday. Here are a couple.
https://auburn.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1152062
https://auburn.247sports.com/Article/Fast-moving-events-5561
If what the Auburn websites posted last Friday is true (and there is no reason to belive it is not) then Newton is not eligible. The difference between playing Newton in weeks 1-10 is that Auburn had some plausible deniabilty. They could say "We didn't know." But they lost that angle last Thursday when it became absoulutely 100% clear that Newton is not eligible to play college football. There is nothing left to speculate: he is ineligible, and Auburn played him in week 11 knowing that he was ineligible. The question now will be will they play him in week 12?
a) It already has been proven. It was proven last Thursday when Cecil Newton admitted to solicitating money from Mississippi State in exchange for his son's signature on a LOI. That admission corroborated the testimony of 6 other witnesses. Both the SEC and the NCAA made Auburn aware of this on Friday.
b) if Newton sits or plays is not Chizik's decision. Decisions on eligibility of a player are not made by the head coach at Auburn, or any other school for that matter. Other people are paid to make those kind of decisions.
The NCAA will kill Auburn's recruiting for them when they and the FBI track down the money trail.
Alabama will have to stop Auburn's running game before they can worry about picks.
Established in 1995,
what emotion?? All I care about is winning 
and taking the Tide in 2 weeks will certainly help that.. 
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