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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2016 - 11:45 AM ET #51

    Quote Originally Posted by CASTORTROY:

    Scal,

    Love reading your take on all sports, the angels you come from are what us bettors need to gain the slight advantages on the house. Normally I would agree with your write-up if it pertained to almost any other sport. This is MMA and much like boxing it is truly dictated by HUGE money. They cant let RR fade to oblivion, not just yet. They need a few more "pay days" from her. She will win to fight at least another day!!


     


    Valid point but the HUGE money would have been made in a Holm Rousey rematch and they let Holm go right ahead and fight Tate and she lost (and then lost her next fight too!), taking a ton of air out of a rematch.

    So the real money is being made with a Rousey comeback against Nunes. Come what may but I assure you Dana White had to think long and hard about ever letting her fight again after the Holm fight. The fact she's even stepping back in the ring will make them a boatload.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CASTORTROY:

    Scal,

    Love reading your take on all sports, the angels you come from are what us bettors need to gain the slight advantages on the house. Normally I would agree with your write-up if it pertained to almost any other sport. This is MMA and much like boxing it is truly dictated by HUGE money. They cant let RR fade to oblivion, not just yet. They need a few more "pay days" from her. She will win to fight at least another day!!


     


    Valid point but the HUGE money would have been made in a Holm Rousey rematch and they let Holm go right ahead and fight Tate and she lost (and then lost her next fight too!), taking a ton of air out of a rematch.

    So the real money is being made with a Rousey comeback against Nunes. Come what may but I assure you Dana White had to think long and hard about ever letting her fight again after the Holm fight. The fact she's even stepping back in the ring will make them a boatload.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2016 - 12:10 PM ET #52

    When fighters have doubt coming back they always lose whether it be boxing or MMA.  White obviously wants her to win but when that door closes he has no control.  Rousey shouldn't have come back.  Nobody fears her anymore.  When fighters lose their ego gets shattered and they never fully recover.  They are never the same after they lose their first fight.
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    When fighters have doubt coming back they always lose whether it be boxing or MMA.  White obviously wants her to win but when that door closes he has no control.  Rousey shouldn't have come back.  Nobody fears her anymore.  When fighters lose their ego gets shattered and they never fully recover.  They are never the same after they lose their first fight.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2016 - 12:20 PM ET #53

    Scal...where is our inside info and sick 3 point analysis about the Nittney Kittens with something like James Franklin runs an illegal cock fighting ring and therefore USC is a lock or something??

    I was looking for the bowl angle of the year and I find 2 pages of info on a cat fight?
    Come on man, you're just better than that
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    Scal...where is our inside info and sick 3 point analysis about the Nittney Kittens with something like James Franklin runs an illegal cock fighting ring and therefore USC is a lock or something??

    I was looking for the bowl angle of the year and I find 2 pages of info on a cat fight?
    Come on man, you're just better than that
     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2016 - 12:30 PM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnynumbers:

    Scal...where is our inside info and sick 3 point analysis about the Nittney Kittens with something like James Franklin runs an illegal cock fighting ring and therefore USC is a lock or something??

    I was looking for the bowl angle of the year and I find 2 pages of info on a cat fight?
    Come on man, you're just better than that

    I'm giving you a +135 winner here (+160 on some other sites). 

    It's all the same in the end: money made. Doesn't matter what you win it on!

    Don't think Women's UFC is emasculating. There's lots of money to be made here and in pro wrestling as well. Abandon the ego and place the bet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnynumbers:

    Scal...where is our inside info and sick 3 point analysis about the Nittney Kittens with something like James Franklin runs an illegal cock fighting ring and therefore USC is a lock or something??

    I was looking for the bowl angle of the year and I find 2 pages of info on a cat fight?
    Come on man, you're just better than that

    I'm giving you a +135 winner here (+160 on some other sites). 

    It's all the same in the end: money made. Doesn't matter what you win it on!

    Don't think Women's UFC is emasculating. There's lots of money to be made here and in pro wrestling as well. Abandon the ego and place the bet.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2016 - 12:42 PM ET #55

    Scal:

    I went back a few weeks ago and watched the Rousey vs Holm fight again. I thought that Rousey narrowly won the first round but near the end of the round, she started taking some shots. The second round she was toast. I remember watching her in Strikeforce and I questioned is Ronda that good or is everyone else that bad? I think it was a little bit of both. But, since then, the sport has grown immensely for women and people have caught up to Ronda skill-wise. Her judo is world class and that's what she should stick to in this fight, but, Nunes is a brown belt in Judo and a BJJ black belt. I think Rousey is done and this will be her last fight. 
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    Scal:

    I went back a few weeks ago and watched the Rousey vs Holm fight again. I thought that Rousey narrowly won the first round but near the end of the round, she started taking some shots. The second round she was toast. I remember watching her in Strikeforce and I questioned is Ronda that good or is everyone else that bad? I think it was a little bit of both. But, since then, the sport has grown immensely for women and people have caught up to Ronda skill-wise. Her judo is world class and that's what she should stick to in this fight, but, Nunes is a brown belt in Judo and a BJJ black belt. I think Rousey is done and this will be her last fight. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2016 - 12:44 PM ET #56

    Quote Originally Posted by 165yds:

    When fighters have doubt coming back they always lose whether it be boxing or MMA.  White obviously wants her to win but when that door closes he has no control.  Rousey shouldn't have come back.  Nobody fears her anymore.  When fighters lose their ego gets shattered and they never fully recover.  They are never the same after they lose their first fight.


    Another poster who will proudly tail and won't be ashamed to declare it. This site is comin' around little by little.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 165yds:

    When fighters have doubt coming back they always lose whether it be boxing or MMA.  White obviously wants her to win but when that door closes he has no control.  Rousey shouldn't have come back.  Nobody fears her anymore.  When fighters lose their ego gets shattered and they never fully recover.  They are never the same after they lose their first fight.


    Another poster who will proudly tail and won't be ashamed to declare it. This site is comin' around little by little.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2016 - 12:45 PM ET #57

    Looks like scum is trying to bait you scalabrine
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    Looks like scum is trying to bait you scalabrine
     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2016 - 12:50 PM ET #58

    I don't tail many picks from these forums or in general but do like the angles you present here Scal...GL with the MMA chicks

    my main point is what can you tell me about PSU that I don't know!!

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    I don't tail many picks from these forums or in general but do like the angles you present here Scal...GL with the MMA chicks

    my main point is what can you tell me about PSU that I don't know!!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2016 - 1:38 PM ET #59

    Quote Originally Posted by DeerPebbles:

    Scal:

    I went back a few weeks ago and watched the Rousey vs Holm fight again. I thought that Rousey narrowly won the first round but near the end of the round, she started taking some shots. The second round she was toast. I remember watching her in Strikeforce and I questioned is Ronda that good or is everyone else that bad? I think it was a little bit of both. But, since then, the sport has grown immensely for women and people have caught up to Ronda skill-wise. Her judo is world class and that's what she should stick to in this fight, but, Nunes is a brown belt in Judo and a BJJ black belt. I think Rousey is done and this will be her last fight. 
    good points 
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeerPebbles:

    Scal:

    I went back a few weeks ago and watched the Rousey vs Holm fight again. I thought that Rousey narrowly won the first round but near the end of the round, she started taking some shots. The second round she was toast. I remember watching her in Strikeforce and I questioned is Ronda that good or is everyone else that bad? I think it was a little bit of both. But, since then, the sport has grown immensely for women and people have caught up to Ronda skill-wise. Her judo is world class and that's what she should stick to in this fight, but, Nunes is a brown belt in Judo and a BJJ black belt. I think Rousey is done and this will be her last fight. 
    good points 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2016 - 1:40 PM ET #60

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnynumbers:

    I don't tail many picks from these forums or in general but do like the angles you present here Scal...GL with the MMA chicks

    my main point is what can you tell me about PSU that I don't know!!


    We know what PSU is. We just don't know what USC is as a whole....

    All-everyday...everyday....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnynumbers:

    I don't tail many picks from these forums or in general but do like the angles you present here Scal...GL with the MMA chicks

    my main point is what can you tell me about PSU that I don't know!!


    We know what PSU is. We just don't know what USC is as a whole....

    All-everyday...everyday....
     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2016 - 4:17 PM ET #61

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    Christmas is a time of forgiveness.

    And we, the Nunes bettors, must forgive this misguided post, full of classic pitfalls in capping which Papa has fallen prey to.

    Papa is enamored with Rousey's back muscles and they are impressive, however they are clearly roided and I'll get to that.

    Question: Did anyone ever buy those classic wrestling magazines where two women are fighting in bathing suits and leotards?

    These fights took place on kitchen floors, apartment couches, near bedroom closets. Anyone remember this? They used to sell VHS tapes of these fights. $29.99. Good money in those days. People paid it. They wanted their leotards in action.

    A woman would have another in a leg lock, thick thighs wrapped around another slender torso. This of course would accentuate the trapped woman's bust as she (playfully) writhed in pain (for the camera) begging to have the other woman release her anaconda-esque vice grip.

    What was the point of this? Why in a young man's wrestling magazine? For innocent sexual arousal of course, in its infancy before the internet. The women only grappled, no kissing or anything else, but in those days it drove some of the magazine buyers WILD.

    So they'd go to the convenience store counter with Brutus Beefcake on the cover of the magazine and grunt as they paid, but really, their Beefcake was inside and it wasn't Brutus, and they whimpered inside begging to be dominated as they brought their two lady grapplers home in a opaque plastic bag. Those lady grapplers were their paradise, even the mere pictures. Fighting in the kitchen on a linoleum floor beneath a toaster oven and blender was a turn on. These women were their She-Ra's of sorts. Built, but still WOMEN at their core. Beautiful and powerful. Enough woman to arouse them but enough brute strength to make them say "MERCY"!

    When I see some men talk about this Rousey instagram post, back muscles rippling like waves on a Hawaiian shore, I am reminded of the fetish some have for the lady grapplers of yesteryear. And perhaps, just perhaps, this has blinded the bettor sufficiently to take Rousey and here purported "value" here, that dominant female figure now skewing their capping.

    It is conjecture, but it must be put on the table as these counter-caps come fast and furious. 

    This is not an insult. These women were hot. But we have to put this all in perspective and put everything on the table to get to winning cap, of which Rousey, is not.

    Papa, I'll be back to break down some of the other innaccuracies. Good attempt.

    Christmas.

    Forgiveness.

    Forgive yourself and take Nunes.








    I knew the one thing you would focus on was the instagram picture.  That really was meaningless in my analysis, but yet it was the first thing you went to because you can't really dispute any of the other capping for this fight.  The fact is that the value is horrific for Nunes right now.  All you need to look at is the fact that Rousey opened up as a massive favorite and has been bet all the way down, to which you have came in and got Nunes at the worst possible price.  Please dispute any of that if you can.  I have been on your side for many of your wagers this year, but the ones that I have disputed, you have lost.  You can go back and check your old threads.  I am trying to help you out with this bet.  Nunes is not a good bet and you will be burned next Friday by a public underdog.
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    Christmas is a time of forgiveness.

    And we, the Nunes bettors, must forgive this misguided post, full of classic pitfalls in capping which Papa has fallen prey to.

    Papa is enamored with Rousey's back muscles and they are impressive, however they are clearly roided and I'll get to that.

    Question: Did anyone ever buy those classic wrestling magazines where two women are fighting in bathing suits and leotards?

    These fights took place on kitchen floors, apartment couches, near bedroom closets. Anyone remember this? They used to sell VHS tapes of these fights. $29.99. Good money in those days. People paid it. They wanted their leotards in action.

    A woman would have another in a leg lock, thick thighs wrapped around another slender torso. This of course would accentuate the trapped woman's bust as she (playfully) writhed in pain (for the camera) begging to have the other woman release her anaconda-esque vice grip.

    What was the point of this? Why in a young man's wrestling magazine? For innocent sexual arousal of course, in its infancy before the internet. The women only grappled, no kissing or anything else, but in those days it drove some of the magazine buyers WILD.

    So they'd go to the convenience store counter with Brutus Beefcake on the cover of the magazine and grunt as they paid, but really, their Beefcake was inside and it wasn't Brutus, and they whimpered inside begging to be dominated as they brought their two lady grapplers home in a opaque plastic bag. Those lady grapplers were their paradise, even the mere pictures. Fighting in the kitchen on a linoleum floor beneath a toaster oven and blender was a turn on. These women were their She-Ra's of sorts. Built, but still WOMEN at their core. Beautiful and powerful. Enough woman to arouse them but enough brute strength to make them say "MERCY"!

    When I see some men talk about this Rousey instagram post, back muscles rippling like waves on a Hawaiian shore, I am reminded of the fetish some have for the lady grapplers of yesteryear. And perhaps, just perhaps, this has blinded the bettor sufficiently to take Rousey and here purported "value" here, that dominant female figure now skewing their capping.

    It is conjecture, but it must be put on the table as these counter-caps come fast and furious. 

    This is not an insult. These women were hot. But we have to put this all in perspective and put everything on the table to get to winning cap, of which Rousey, is not.

    Papa, I'll be back to break down some of the other innaccuracies. Good attempt.

    Christmas.

    Forgiveness.

    Forgive yourself and take Nunes.








    I knew the one thing you would focus on was the instagram picture.  That really was meaningless in my analysis, but yet it was the first thing you went to because you can't really dispute any of the other capping for this fight.  The fact is that the value is horrific for Nunes right now.  All you need to look at is the fact that Rousey opened up as a massive favorite and has been bet all the way down, to which you have came in and got Nunes at the worst possible price.  Please dispute any of that if you can.  I have been on your side for many of your wagers this year, but the ones that I have disputed, you have lost.  You can go back and check your old threads.  I am trying to help you out with this bet.  Nunes is not a good bet and you will be burned next Friday by a public underdog.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2016 - 4:22 PM ET #62

    Quote Originally Posted by DeerPebbles:

    Scal:

    I went back a few weeks ago and watched the Rousey vs Holm fight again. I thought that Rousey narrowly won the first round but near the end of the round, she started taking some shots. The second round she was toast. I remember watching her in Strikeforce and I questioned is Ronda that good or is everyone else that bad? I think it was a little bit of both. But, since then, the sport has grown immensely for women and people have caught up to Ronda skill-wise. Her judo is world class and that's what she should stick to in this fight, but, Nunes is a brown belt in Judo and a BJJ black belt. I think Rousey is done and this will be her last fight. 


    Rousey already stated that win or lose, this will be her last fight.
    Before her 1st & only UFC loss, she strongly believed in herself;
    now it sure sounds like a lack of confidence, of belief, of will
    to win. 

    This then is clearly no comeback, more of a return - which is
    exactly how it is being billed, a return: 
    #FearTheReturn
    #dec30  #ufc207  #rouseyvsnunes

    Last time the ML on Holm was + great, this one on Nunes is + ok.

    I would not hesitate to disagree with Scal, and each and every year,
    there's one chance to dump his pick in disagreement w/ his analysis:
    One chance from amongst a dozen or so incredibly insightful picks
    and 24 regular winners he gives out freely year in & year out. 
    This ain't one of those infrequent chances.
    Comeback next year and check this thread - he can't miss.

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    I'm smart enough to know that I'll never know the reason(s) why
    Scal is hated so much by so many...  boggles the mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeerPebbles:

    Scal:

    I went back a few weeks ago and watched the Rousey vs Holm fight again. I thought that Rousey narrowly won the first round but near the end of the round, she started taking some shots. The second round she was toast. I remember watching her in Strikeforce and I questioned is Ronda that good or is everyone else that bad? I think it was a little bit of both. But, since then, the sport has grown immensely for women and people have caught up to Ronda skill-wise. Her judo is world class and that's what she should stick to in this fight, but, Nunes is a brown belt in Judo and a BJJ black belt. I think Rousey is done and this will be her last fight. 


    Rousey already stated that win or lose, this will be her last fight.
    Before her 1st & only UFC loss, she strongly believed in herself;
    now it sure sounds like a lack of confidence, of belief, of will
    to win. 

    This then is clearly no comeback, more of a return - which is
    exactly how it is being billed, a return: 
    #FearTheReturn
    #dec30  #ufc207  #rouseyvsnunes

    Last time the ML on Holm was + great, this one on Nunes is + ok.

    I would not hesitate to disagree with Scal, and each and every year,
    there's one chance to dump his pick in disagreement w/ his analysis:
    One chance from amongst a dozen or so incredibly insightful picks
    and 24 regular winners he gives out freely year in & year out. 
    This ain't one of those infrequent chances.
    Comeback next year and check this thread - he can't miss.

    ///

    I'm smart enough to know that I'll never know the reason(s) why
    Scal is hated so much by so many...  boggles the mind.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendo:



    Rousey already stated that win or lose, this will be her last fight.
    Before her 1st & only UFC loss, she strongly believed in herself;
    now it sure sounds like a lack of confidence, of belief, of will
    to win. 

    This then is clearly no comeback, more of a return - which is
    exactly how it is being billed, a return: 
    #FearTheReturn
    #dec30  #ufc207  #rouseyvsnunes

    Last time the ML on Holm was + great, this one on Nunes is + ok.

    I would not hesitate to disagree with Scal, and each and every year,
    there's one chance to dump his pick in disagreement w/ his analysis:
    One chance from amongst a dozen or so incredibly insightful picks
    and 24 regular winners he gives out freely year in & year out. 
    This ain't one of those infrequent chances.
    Comeback next year and check this thread - he can't miss.

    ///

    I'm smart enough to know that I'll never know the reason(s) why
    Scal is hated so much by so many...  boggles the mind.



    False.  Not true.  Prove it.  

    I think her exact quote was...

    "This could be my last fight.  Stay tuned."  

    Sounds to me like someone that is trying to sell the fight.  Don't know why people can't see that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendo:



    Rousey already stated that win or lose, this will be her last fight.
    Before her 1st & only UFC loss, she strongly believed in herself;
    now it sure sounds like a lack of confidence, of belief, of will
    to win. 

    This then is clearly no comeback, more of a return - which is
    exactly how it is being billed, a return: 
    #FearTheReturn
    #dec30  #ufc207  #rouseyvsnunes

    Last time the ML on Holm was + great, this one on Nunes is + ok.

    I would not hesitate to disagree with Scal, and each and every year,
    there's one chance to dump his pick in disagreement w/ his analysis:
    One chance from amongst a dozen or so incredibly insightful picks
    and 24 regular winners he gives out freely year in & year out. 
    This ain't one of those infrequent chances.
    Comeback next year and check this thread - he can't miss.

    ///

    I'm smart enough to know that I'll never know the reason(s) why
    Scal is hated so much by so many...  boggles the mind.



    False.  Not true.  Prove it.  

    I think her exact quote was...

    "This could be my last fight.  Stay tuned."  

    Sounds to me like someone that is trying to sell the fight.  Don't know why people can't see that.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango:



    I knew the one thing you would focus on was the instagram picture.  That really was meaningless in my analysis, but yet it was the first thing you went to because you can't really dispute any of the other capping for this fight.  The fact is that the value is horrific for Nunes right now.  All you need to look at is the fact that Rousey opened up as a massive favorite and has been bet all the way down, to which you have came in and got Nunes at the worst possible price.  Please dispute any of that if you can.  I have been on your side for many of your wagers this year, but the ones that I have disputed, you have lost.  You can go back and check your old threads.  I am trying to help you out with this bet.  Nunes is not a good bet and you will be burned next Friday by a public underdog.

    I can easily dispute your 'value' assessments well as your other points.. It's a classic handicapping mistake that will cost you a lot of money in the long run.

    For now I pivoted to Gorgeous Ladies of Wrestling (GLOW) on kitchen floors and Brutus Beefcake. I'll get back to the other counter points. Plenty of time to do so.
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    I knew the one thing you would focus on was the instagram picture.  That really was meaningless in my analysis, but yet it was the first thing you went to because you can't really dispute any of the other capping for this fight.  The fact is that the value is horrific for Nunes right now.  All you need to look at is the fact that Rousey opened up as a massive favorite and has been bet all the way down, to which you have came in and got Nunes at the worst possible price.  Please dispute any of that if you can.  I have been on your side for many of your wagers this year, but the ones that I have disputed, you have lost.  You can go back and check your old threads.  I am trying to help you out with this bet.  Nunes is not a good bet and you will be burned next Friday by a public underdog.

    I can easily dispute your 'value' assessments well as your other points.. It's a classic handicapping mistake that will cost you a lot of money in the long run.

    For now I pivoted to Gorgeous Ladies of Wrestling (GLOW) on kitchen floors and Brutus Beefcake. I'll get back to the other counter points. Plenty of time to do so.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2016 - 5:46 PM ET #65

    Nunes A public underdog

    So you think the public is more heavily on Nunes? O my god. The public doesn't even know how to spell Nunes.
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    Nunes A public underdog

    So you think the public is more heavily on Nunes? O my god. The public doesn't even know how to spell Nunes.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    For now I pivoted to Gorgeous Ladies of Wrestling (GLOW) on kitchen floors and Brutus Beefcake. I'll get back to the other counter points. Plenty of time to do so.

    Sometimes opportunities to have a good laugh just present themselves on a silver platter ... but just as Babe Ruth took an occasional fast ball right down the middle, there are times when you just let one go by.

    Scal, will you be spending the holidays at home, or visiting relatives? 
    Either way, stay safe. It's a crazy world out there 
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    For now I pivoted to Gorgeous Ladies of Wrestling (GLOW) on kitchen floors and Brutus Beefcake. I'll get back to the other counter points. Plenty of time to do so.

    Sometimes opportunities to have a good laugh just present themselves on a silver platter ... but just as Babe Ruth took an occasional fast ball right down the middle, there are times when you just let one go by.

    Scal, will you be spending the holidays at home, or visiting relatives? 
    Either way, stay safe. It's a crazy world out there 
     
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    NOONEZ.....

    Scal, Out of curiosity what are your thoughts on tonight's game. We know you faded them before (Which is irrelevant but it does prove you at least have a feel for Wyoming as a team....)    They have let up big points to teams that can run the ball.... However, they are a great Underdog type of team with a very respectable coach... 

    Should one of BYU's Best RB of all time, run all over? Does Hill's injury Completely worsen this teams ability to run an effective offense?  (but they have an experienced Mangam?)

    So for the pure sake of hearing your thoughts (NOT TRYING TO GET A PLAY OUT OF YOU)  please enlighten me...



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    NOONEZ.....

    Scal, Out of curiosity what are your thoughts on tonight's game. We know you faded them before (Which is irrelevant but it does prove you at least have a feel for Wyoming as a team....)    They have let up big points to teams that can run the ball.... However, they are a great Underdog type of team with a very respectable coach... 

    Should one of BYU's Best RB of all time, run all over? Does Hill's injury Completely worsen this teams ability to run an effective offense?  (but they have an experienced Mangam?)

    So for the pure sake of hearing your thoughts (NOT TRYING TO GET A PLAY OUT OF YOU)  please enlighten me...



     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Nunes A public underdog

    So you think the public is more heavily on Nunes? O my god. The public doesn't even know how to spell Nunes.

    Scal, I live in Vegas.  Know traders and other people that work at books.  I have been told, HUGE money has came in on Nunes at many different books.  Just look at the line drop.  It's clear, majority of the money is on Nunes right now.  You're just not correct if you believe Rousey is getting the money.  You're entire assessment is exactly the media narrative for this fight.  ESPN, Fox Sports, etc., that the public watch.  Nunes is clearly being bet heavily and everyone will regret that after next Friday night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Nunes A public underdog

    So you think the public is more heavily on Nunes? O my god. The public doesn't even know how to spell Nunes.

    Scal, I live in Vegas.  Know traders and other people that work at books.  I have been told, HUGE money has came in on Nunes at many different books.  Just look at the line drop.  It's clear, majority of the money is on Nunes right now.  You're just not correct if you believe Rousey is getting the money.  You're entire assessment is exactly the media narrative for this fight.  ESPN, Fox Sports, etc., that the public watch.  Nunes is clearly being bet heavily and everyone will regret that after next Friday night.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Nunes A public underdog

    So you think the public is more heavily on Nunes? O my god. The public doesn't even know how to spell Nunes.

    58% of the money is on Nunes right now. So you are wrong there.

    But, you do actually bring up a good point. This could very well change. More casual bettors will place their bets as the fight gets closer. Most probably the day of the fight. Logic would dictate those casual fans would go with Rousey. But, there is no guarantee of that. As already indicated by Papa Shango, the media seems to be doubting Rousey and leaning towards the upset. The media could influence those casual fans. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Nunes A public underdog

    So you think the public is more heavily on Nunes? O my god. The public doesn't even know how to spell Nunes.

    58% of the money is on Nunes right now. So you are wrong there.

    But, you do actually bring up a good point. This could very well change. More casual bettors will place their bets as the fight gets closer. Most probably the day of the fight. Logic would dictate those casual fans would go with Rousey. But, there is no guarantee of that. As already indicated by Papa Shango, the media seems to be doubting Rousey and leaning towards the upset. The media could influence those casual fans. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    I can easily dispute your 'value' assessments well as your other points.. It's a classic handicapping mistake that will cost you a lot of money in the long run.

    For now I pivoted to Gorgeous Ladies of Wrestling (GLOW) on kitchen floors and Brutus Beefcake. I'll get back to the other counter points. Plenty of time to do so.

    Please dispute my claims and my handicapping of the fight.  I am waiting...
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    I can easily dispute your 'value' assessments well as your other points.. It's a classic handicapping mistake that will cost you a lot of money in the long run.

    For now I pivoted to Gorgeous Ladies of Wrestling (GLOW) on kitchen floors and Brutus Beefcake. I'll get back to the other counter points. Plenty of time to do so.

    Please dispute my claims and my handicapping of the fight.  I am waiting...
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdr016:


    58% of the money is on Nunes right now. So you are wrong there.

    But, you do actually bring up a good point. This could very well change. More casual bettors will place their bets as the fight gets closer. Most probably the day of the fight. Logic would dictate those casual fans would go with Rousey. But, there is no guarantee of that. As already indicated by Papa Shango, the media seems to be doubting Rousey and leaning towards the upset. The media could influence those casual fans. 



    BINGO!  Sportsoptions has Nunes getting 55% of the money right now.  55-58 seems about right.  
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    58% of the money is on Nunes right now. So you are wrong there.

    But, you do actually bring up a good point. This could very well change. More casual bettors will place their bets as the fight gets closer. Most probably the day of the fight. Logic would dictate those casual fans would go with Rousey. But, there is no guarantee of that. As already indicated by Papa Shango, the media seems to be doubting Rousey and leaning towards the upset. The media could influence those casual fans. 



    BINGO!  Sportsoptions has Nunes getting 55% of the money right now.  55-58 seems about right.  
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango:


    Scal, I live in Vegas.  Know traders and other people that work at books.  I have been told, HUGE money has came in on Nunes at many different books.  Just look at the line drop.  It's clear, majority of the money is on Nunes right now.  You're just not correct if you believe Rousey is getting the money.  You're entire assessment is exactly the media narrative for this fight.  ESPN, Fox Sports, etc., that the public watch.  Nunes is clearly being bet heavily and everyone will regret that after next Friday night.

    Huge money coming in on Nunes is not surprising. It's people seeing what I'm seeing after a thorough cap.

    Well, I've heard it all now folks: One of the most public UFC fighters, perhaps THE most public UFC fighter of all time, and certainly the biggest female by far, is a public underdog to an 11-4 Brazilian who is the third of three champions in 3 consecutive women's fights....? Yes, the Brazilian chick has the public absolutely clamoring to take her and moreover, Vegas is keeping her odds at +160/+135 well because, they want all that liability on Rousey, who had her teeth knocked into next week last fight and has only been heard from on **** the Ellen  DeGeneres show. Yes, Vegas has a lot to go on there to take on that liability.

    Rousey's only been saying this will be one of her last fights. Yes, she seems so determined. So motivated.

    Are you even taking Rousey Papa? Or do you malign one side because of purported 'value' but refuse to back the side you claim is superior (this happens once every thread, here's another comin' up).

    I'm going to start calling you Ellen Degenerate if you keep this up. 

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    Scal, I live in Vegas.  Know traders and other people that work at books.  I have been told, HUGE money has came in on Nunes at many different books.  Just look at the line drop.  It's clear, majority of the money is on Nunes right now.  You're just not correct if you believe Rousey is getting the money.  You're entire assessment is exactly the media narrative for this fight.  ESPN, Fox Sports, etc., that the public watch.  Nunes is clearly being bet heavily and everyone will regret that after next Friday night.

    Huge money coming in on Nunes is not surprising. It's people seeing what I'm seeing after a thorough cap.

    Well, I've heard it all now folks: One of the most public UFC fighters, perhaps THE most public UFC fighter of all time, and certainly the biggest female by far, is a public underdog to an 11-4 Brazilian who is the third of three champions in 3 consecutive women's fights....? Yes, the Brazilian chick has the public absolutely clamoring to take her and moreover, Vegas is keeping her odds at +160/+135 well because, they want all that liability on Rousey, who had her teeth knocked into next week last fight and has only been heard from on **** the Ellen  DeGeneres show. Yes, Vegas has a lot to go on there to take on that liability.

    Rousey's only been saying this will be one of her last fights. Yes, she seems so determined. So motivated.

    Are you even taking Rousey Papa? Or do you malign one side because of purported 'value' but refuse to back the side you claim is superior (this happens once every thread, here's another comin' up).

    I'm going to start calling you Ellen Degenerate if you keep this up. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jrod6:

    Negative, Rhonda is going to go back to her ground game and Judo, she got very arrogant fighting bums so her striking and standing game was an illusion that she bought into. Rhonda will take nunes  down and keep this fight on the canvas while overpowering her with her height advantage. 


    Nunes also has a suspect chin with Two of her losses coming via ok. With that being said if the fight gos the distance the judges will give it to Rhonda sorta the way the Diaz and McGregor rematch ended.


    To be honest with you the best bet for this fight  is 

    OVER 1.5 rounds 

    Gl, also why post this in college? MMA thread has some decent posters 




    lol. Nunes is far from a slouch on the ground. Also...her chin is suspect? Ronda isn't knocking out Amanda Nunes. LMFAO. We aren't talking about bethe here buddy.
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    Negative, Rhonda is going to go back to her ground game and Judo, she got very arrogant fighting bums so her striking and standing game was an illusion that she bought into. Rhonda will take nunes  down and keep this fight on the canvas while overpowering her with her height advantage. 


    Nunes also has a suspect chin with Two of her losses coming via ok. With that being said if the fight gos the distance the judges will give it to Rhonda sorta the way the Diaz and McGregor rematch ended.


    To be honest with you the best bet for this fight  is 

    OVER 1.5 rounds 

    Gl, also why post this in college? MMA thread has some decent posters 




    lol. Nunes is far from a slouch on the ground. Also...her chin is suspect? Ronda isn't knocking out Amanda Nunes. LMFAO. We aren't talking about bethe here buddy.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jrod6:

    Negative, Rhonda is going to go back to her ground game and Judo, she got very arrogant fighting bums so her striking and standing game was an illusion that she bought into. Rhonda will take nunes  down and keep this fight on the canvas while overpowering her with her height advantage. 


    Nunes also has a suspect chin with Two of her losses coming via ok. With that being said if the fight gos the distance the judges will give it to Rhonda sorta the way the Diaz and McGregor rematch ended.


    To be honest with you the best bet for this fight  is 

    OVER 1.5 rounds 

    Gl, also why post this in college? MMA thread has some decent posters 




    Also, the best bet is over? That's one of the most 50/50 bets of this fight. Nunes is known to come out fast as any fighter out there. She has no feeling out process. And RR has a great chance of countering that aggressiveness with a judo toss and armbar which is why I'm hesitant at betting Nunes. Over is an absolutely terrible bet in this win or lose with these two styles. Ronda does not want to take her time and try to outbox Nunes.
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    Negative, Rhonda is going to go back to her ground game and Judo, she got very arrogant fighting bums so her striking and standing game was an illusion that she bought into. Rhonda will take nunes  down and keep this fight on the canvas while overpowering her with her height advantage. 


    Nunes also has a suspect chin with Two of her losses coming via ok. With that being said if the fight gos the distance the judges will give it to Rhonda sorta the way the Diaz and McGregor rematch ended.


    To be honest with you the best bet for this fight  is 

    OVER 1.5 rounds 

    Gl, also why post this in college? MMA thread has some decent posters 




    Also, the best bet is over? That's one of the most 50/50 bets of this fight. Nunes is known to come out fast as any fighter out there. She has no feeling out process. And RR has a great chance of countering that aggressiveness with a judo toss and armbar which is why I'm hesitant at betting Nunes. Over is an absolutely terrible bet in this win or lose with these two styles. Ronda does not want to take her time and try to outbox Nunes.
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