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    What do you want? Another ROCK BOTTOM SURPRISE pick.One more time!Another ROCK BOTTOM SURPRISE pick!

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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2016 - 8:54 PM ET #1

    2016 Record: 35-17

    The Pick:

    AMANDA NUNES +135 over RONDA ROUSEY

    Fight is on 12/30/16.

    (Penn State...That should fill our CFB posting quota.)

    Remember our last Rock Bottom Surprise?

    St. John's won by 20, 95-75, over Tulane as 4.5 point favorites.

    In that game we used a Rock Bottom loss to Delaware State bounce back against Tulane.

    In this Rock Bottom Surprise, we will do the opposite.

    This Rock Bottom angle states that you hit the bottom so hard, you won't be able to get up.

    And that is exactly what happened to Ronda Rousey in the women's division in the UFC when she fought Holly Holm.

    Her career arc reminds me so much of Mike Tyson before he lost to Evander Holyfield. Although not perfectly analogous, Tyson fought a bunch of tomato cans after his release from prison:

    Peter McNeely - The guy should have been tossing pizza dough at 3 Brothers Pizzeria

    Buster Mathis Jr. - Speaking of pizza dough, Mathis brought an embarrassing dough boy physique to the ring and got destroyed.

    Frank Bruno - Physically a specimen, but more a gentlemen of the British Royal court than a fighter.

    Bruce Seldon - Literally took a dive in this fight. YES it was fixed. Not sure why this isn't talked about more.

    Rousey fought much of the same early in her career (tomato cans) and then the competition got a bit stout. But unlike boxing, Rousey was able to topple her toughest fighters with submission moves, in some cases, under 20 seconds. She left those fights thinking she was invisible and for good reason: she was undefeated and getting world wide press acclaim.

    And then came her Evander Holyfield, Holly Holm.

    And like Holyfield, Holm won for one reason: she knew how to punch with the best of them. She was a boxer and she mercilessly pounded the unprepared Rousey.

    And THAT is where Nunes has the advantage. Nunes can land a punch with the best of them as well. And she has a ground game. The ONLY way Rousey can win this fight is to get Nunes on the ground and get a sneaky submission, much like she's done to many others.

    Here's the problem: the woman's division has evolved since Rousey's defeat.

    Nunes is a smart fighter who knows Rousey wants her on the ground ASAP. That is why she will stand face to face with her and use her punching power to bludgeon Rousey the same way Holm did. This will weaken Rousey to the point when she gets to the ground, she won't have enough to make Nunes tap out because her submission move will be irrelevant as Nunes continues to beat her.

    Remember the following:

    It has been 13 months since Rousey's last fight. Why?

    Rousey was so destroyed after the last fight, she needed MONTHS for her TEETH to set back in.

    Her words not mine: It may be 3 to 6 months before I can eat an apple, let alone take impact.

    And NOW she gets back in the ring with the CHAMP who can punch with the best of them.

    And there is another angle here:

    It's the "Fading Clinical Depression" angle.

    There is no question Rousey is clinically depressed. Who goes on a talk show and admits to suicidal thoughts if they are not? Who walks out of press conferences without saying a word if they are not? Remember, this was the most talked about female fighter in the world and now she hasn't been heard publicly except for an interview here and there in over a year. She soaked up every minute of that fame. Now she wants none of it.

    And this is what depression does. It grabs you, puts you in a deep black hole and doesn't let you escape.

    And worse, as many here know because I can tell quite a few posters are clinically depressed, it sucks the life from you. All of your energy whittles away day after day where even the most routine activities become laborious.

    And this is before a fight that requires you to be at the top of your game physically, mentally and performance-wise? Wow. That is a tall order.

    Did you all see Rousey leave that press conference without saying a word? Depression. Leaving the limelight ASAP to get to a safer space. Very obvious. Who will deny this?

    And Rousey is going into this fight when the last hit she took was a kick that should have ended her career and in a frame of mind where I guarantee it is near impossible just to get out of bed every morning?

    No. It is a good story. I WANT her to win. But when it comes to a choice while handicapping, Nunes is the pick.

    Because this line should be reversed. Rousey does not even DESERVE to fight for the title and fights here because of name recognition only. Knowledgeable UFC posters here will more than admit this.

    So I will take +100 and then a 35% return on top of that because the line-setters cater to the public cash flow which is heavily Rousey. But the evidence speaks for itself. Take the better, more mentally healthy fighter, who is the Champ for a reason, to win when all is said and done against a fighter with 13 months off and has been blessed with the gift of a title fight again. This is no Michael Phelps story here folks.

    I'd like to see her get up from Rock Bottom and she will: In the pro wrestling ring and perhaps on the big screen, but not on 12/30 in the octagon.

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    2016 Record: 35-17

    The Pick:

    AMANDA NUNES +135 over RONDA ROUSEY

    Fight is on 12/30/16.

    (Penn State...That should fill our CFB posting quota.)

    Remember our last Rock Bottom Surprise?

    St. John's won by 20, 95-75, over Tulane as 4.5 point favorites.

    In that game we used a Rock Bottom loss to Delaware State bounce back against Tulane.

    In this Rock Bottom Surprise, we will do the opposite.

    This Rock Bottom angle states that you hit the bottom so hard, you won't be able to get up.

    And that is exactly what happened to Ronda Rousey in the women's division in the UFC when she fought Holly Holm.

    Her career arc reminds me so much of Mike Tyson before he lost to Evander Holyfield. Although not perfectly analogous, Tyson fought a bunch of tomato cans after his release from prison:

    Peter McNeely - The guy should have been tossing pizza dough at 3 Brothers Pizzeria

    Buster Mathis Jr. - Speaking of pizza dough, Mathis brought an embarrassing dough boy physique to the ring and got destroyed.

    Frank Bruno - Physically a specimen, but more a gentlemen of the British Royal court than a fighter.

    Bruce Seldon - Literally took a dive in this fight. YES it was fixed. Not sure why this isn't talked about more.

    Rousey fought much of the same early in her career (tomato cans) and then the competition got a bit stout. But unlike boxing, Rousey was able to topple her toughest fighters with submission moves, in some cases, under 20 seconds. She left those fights thinking she was invisible and for good reason: she was undefeated and getting world wide press acclaim.

    And then came her Evander Holyfield, Holly Holm.

    And like Holyfield, Holm won for one reason: she knew how to punch with the best of them. She was a boxer and she mercilessly pounded the unprepared Rousey.

    And THAT is where Nunes has the advantage. Nunes can land a punch with the best of them as well. And she has a ground game. The ONLY way Rousey can win this fight is to get Nunes on the ground and get a sneaky submission, much like she's done to many others.

    Here's the problem: the woman's division has evolved since Rousey's defeat.

    Nunes is a smart fighter who knows Rousey wants her on the ground ASAP. That is why she will stand face to face with her and use her punching power to bludgeon Rousey the same way Holm did. This will weaken Rousey to the point when she gets to the ground, she won't have enough to make Nunes tap out because her submission move will be irrelevant as Nunes continues to beat her.

    Remember the following:

    It has been 13 months since Rousey's last fight. Why?

    Rousey was so destroyed after the last fight, she needed MONTHS for her TEETH to set back in.

    Her words not mine: It may be 3 to 6 months before I can eat an apple, let alone take impact.

    And NOW she gets back in the ring with the CHAMP who can punch with the best of them.

    And there is another angle here:

    It's the "Fading Clinical Depression" angle.

    There is no question Rousey is clinically depressed. Who goes on a talk show and admits to suicidal thoughts if they are not? Who walks out of press conferences without saying a word if they are not? Remember, this was the most talked about female fighter in the world and now she hasn't been heard publicly except for an interview here and there in over a year. She soaked up every minute of that fame. Now she wants none of it.

    And this is what depression does. It grabs you, puts you in a deep black hole and doesn't let you escape.

    And worse, as many here know because I can tell quite a few posters are clinically depressed, it sucks the life from you. All of your energy whittles away day after day where even the most routine activities become laborious.

    And this is before a fight that requires you to be at the top of your game physically, mentally and performance-wise? Wow. That is a tall order.

    Did you all see Rousey leave that press conference without saying a word? Depression. Leaving the limelight ASAP to get to a safer space. Very obvious. Who will deny this?

    And Rousey is going into this fight when the last hit she took was a kick that should have ended her career and in a frame of mind where I guarantee it is near impossible just to get out of bed every morning?

    No. It is a good story. I WANT her to win. But when it comes to a choice while handicapping, Nunes is the pick.

    Because this line should be reversed. Rousey does not even DESERVE to fight for the title and fights here because of name recognition only. Knowledgeable UFC posters here will more than admit this.

    So I will take +100 and then a 35% return on top of that because the line-setters cater to the public cash flow which is heavily Rousey. But the evidence speaks for itself. Take the better, more mentally healthy fighter, who is the Champ for a reason, to win when all is said and done against a fighter with 13 months off and has been blessed with the gift of a title fight again. This is no Michael Phelps story here folks.

    I'd like to see her get up from Rock Bottom and she will: In the pro wrestling ring and perhaps on the big screen, but not on 12/30 in the octagon.

     
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    Negative, Rhonda is going to go back to her ground game and Judo, she got very arrogant fighting bums so her striking and standing game was an illusion that she bought into. Rhonda will take nunes  down and keep this fight on the canvas while overpowering her with her height advantage. 


    Nunes also has a suspect chin with Two of her losses coming via ok. With that being said if the fight gos the distance the judges will give it to Rhonda sorta the way the Diaz and McGregor rematch ended.


    To be honest with you the best bet for this fight  is 

    OVER 1.5 rounds 

    Gl, also why post this in college? MMA thread has some decent posters 


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    Negative, Rhonda is going to go back to her ground game and Judo, she got very arrogant fighting bums so her striking and standing game was an illusion that she bought into. Rhonda will take nunes  down and keep this fight on the canvas while overpowering her with her height advantage. 


    Nunes also has a suspect chin with Two of her losses coming via ok. With that being said if the fight gos the distance the judges will give it to Rhonda sorta the way the Diaz and McGregor rematch ended.


    To be honest with you the best bet for this fight  is 

    OVER 1.5 rounds 

    Gl, also why post this in college? MMA thread has some decent posters 


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

    This isn't college football   

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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

    This isn't college football   


    You are all full of humor tonight aren't you?
    SNITCHES end up being bitches, or end up with stitches, and in ditches! #REALITY
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    You are all full of humor tonight aren't you?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jrod6:

    Negative, Rhonda is going to go back to her ground game and Judo, she got very arrogant fighting bums so her striking and standing game was an illusion that she bought into. Rhonda will take nunes  down and keep this fight on the canvas while overpowering her with her height advantage. 


    Nunes also has a suspect chin with Two of her losses coming via ok. With that being said if the fight gos the distance the judges will give it to Rhonda sorta the way the Diaz and McGregor rematch ended.


    To be honest with you the best bet for this fight  is 

    OVER 1.5 rounds 

    Gl, also why post this in college? MMA thread has some decent posters 




    For the same reason I posted the ST Johns pick in it. The MMA section is a ghost town. Thanks for attempting to file this thread like a librarian (I'm sure BWS has his hair in a bun right now) but I'm making people money.

    And you clearly haven't watched many Nunes fights.
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    Negative, Rhonda is going to go back to her ground game and Judo, she got very arrogant fighting bums so her striking and standing game was an illusion that she bought into. Rhonda will take nunes  down and keep this fight on the canvas while overpowering her with her height advantage. 


    Nunes also has a suspect chin with Two of her losses coming via ok. With that being said if the fight gos the distance the judges will give it to Rhonda sorta the way the Diaz and McGregor rematch ended.


    To be honest with you the best bet for this fight  is 

    OVER 1.5 rounds 

    Gl, also why post this in college? MMA thread has some decent posters 




    For the same reason I posted the ST Johns pick in it. The MMA section is a ghost town. Thanks for attempting to file this thread like a librarian (I'm sure BWS has his hair in a bun right now) but I'm making people money.

    And you clearly haven't watched many Nunes fights.
     
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    I think there are a few key points you missed but are dead on. Rousey is dead meat. 
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    I think there are a few key points you missed but are dead on. Rousey is dead meat. 
     
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    Nunes is going to eat her up. Love this play! BOL Scal
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:



    For the same reason I posted the ST Johns pick in it. The MMA section is a ghost town. Thanks for attempting to file this thread like a librarian (I'm sure BWS has his hair in a bun right now) but I'm making people money.

    And you clearly haven't watched many Nunes fights.


    Ok see you fight night, gl on your play. I still say OVER 1.5 is the best bet here 
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    For the same reason I posted the ST Johns pick in it. The MMA section is a ghost town. Thanks for attempting to file this thread like a librarian (I'm sure BWS has his hair in a bun right now) but I'm making people money.

    And you clearly haven't watched many Nunes fights.


    Ok see you fight night, gl on your play. I still say OVER 1.5 is the best bet here 
     
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    ^ and I still say roused comes out with the win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jrod6:

    ^ and I still say roused comes out with the win.

    But you wouldn't put your money on it.

    Especially not at -155. That says a lot.
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    ^ and I still say roused comes out with the win.

    But you wouldn't put your money on it.

    Especially not at -155. That says a lot.
     
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    SLO max ct

    SLO there was more I wanted to say you are correct. I did leave some of the detailed fighting style/background points out.
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    SLO there was more I wanted to say you are correct. I did leave some of the detailed fighting style/background points out.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2016 - 9:33 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    But you wouldn't put your money on it.

    Especially not at -155. That says a lot.

    Says a lot? No it just says I'm taking the play I feel stronger about which is the over. Why takes wager at -155 when I can take one at almost even that I'm more confident about? 

    I'll be back after the fight when you have lost your money 
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    But you wouldn't put your money on it.

    Especially not at -155. That says a lot.

    Says a lot? No it just says I'm taking the play I feel stronger about which is the over. Why takes wager at -155 when I can take one at almost even that I'm more confident about? 

    I'll be back after the fight when you have lost your money 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2016 - 9:39 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by Jrod6:


    Says a lot? No it just says I'm taking the play I feel stronger about which is the over. Why takes wager at -155 when I can take one at almost even that I'm more confident about? 

    I'll be back after the fight when you have lost your money 

    No, it says you are not willing to put your money on the other side of this bet, yet you criticize my side. I don't care what else you bet on, beside the side here. Bet on who lands the first punch for all I care.

    I'm going to lose my money but you won't put money on the side you allege will win money. What a fuc*ing troll
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    Says a lot? No it just says I'm taking the play I feel stronger about which is the over. Why takes wager at -155 when I can take one at almost even that I'm more confident about? 

    I'll be back after the fight when you have lost your money 

    No, it says you are not willing to put your money on the other side of this bet, yet you criticize my side. I don't care what else you bet on, beside the side here. Bet on who lands the first punch for all I care.

    I'm going to lose my money but you won't put money on the side you allege will win money. What a fuc*ing troll
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2016 - 9:43 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    No, it says you are not willing to put your money on the other side of this bet, yet you criticize my side. I don't care what else you bet on, beside the side here. Bet on who lands the first punch for all I care.

    I'm going to lose my money but you won't put money on the side you allege will win money. What a fuc*ing troll

    Jesus Christ god forbid someone has an opinion that's opposite of yours, I feel bad for your wife. 

    I'm a troll? You're posting a UFC prediction in a college football forum 
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    No, it says you are not willing to put your money on the other side of this bet, yet you criticize my side. I don't care what else you bet on, beside the side here. Bet on who lands the first punch for all I care.

    I'm going to lose my money but you won't put money on the side you allege will win money. What a fuc*ing troll

    Jesus Christ god forbid someone has an opinion that's opposite of yours, I feel bad for your wife. 

    I'm a troll? You're posting a UFC prediction in a college football forum 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jrod6:


    Jesus Christ god forbid someone has an opinion that's opposite of yours, I feel bad for your wife. 

    I'm a troll? You're posting a UFC prediction in a college football forum 


    The opposite side is fine.

    The laughable thing is when someone endorses an opposite side and then says, I'll take the over 1.5 rounds.

    You don't even know the basic definition of a troll do you? Posting a thread in a forum where 10,000 posters will benefit from it instead of 10 is now...a troll. Lol. You do see a write-up and pick here correct? if that's a troll well god bless trolls. You're something far worse and we'll have to find a new name for it.
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    Jesus Christ god forbid someone has an opinion that's opposite of yours, I feel bad for your wife. 

    I'm a troll? You're posting a UFC prediction in a college football forum 


    The opposite side is fine.

    The laughable thing is when someone endorses an opposite side and then says, I'll take the over 1.5 rounds.

    You don't even know the basic definition of a troll do you? Posting a thread in a forum where 10,000 posters will benefit from it instead of 10 is now...a troll. Lol. You do see a write-up and pick here correct? if that's a troll well god bless trolls. You're something far worse and we'll have to find a new name for it.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2016 - 9:52 PM ET #18

    Take it to the pay window Scalabrine!
    SNITCHES end up being bitches, or end up with stitches, and in ditches! #REALITY
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urbanwildlife:

    Take it to the pay window Scalabrine!
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    Take it to the pay window Scalabrine!
     
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    Scal, as much as I would love to comment on this topic, whether in a sincere manner, or just to break your balls (more likely) I have to admit I have no idea wtf anyone is talking about.
    Good luck with the results of this tennis match? 

    Also, PorcelainFist would like to know if this wager is part of your record?
    What about the Penn St reference ... is that an official pick minus the customary 24,000 word writeup, or are you just playing with your followers?

    Again, PorcelainFist would like to know ... me ... I got your back, pal 
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    Scal, as much as I would love to comment on this topic, whether in a sincere manner, or just to break your balls (more likely) I have to admit I have no idea wtf anyone is talking about.
    Good luck with the results of this tennis match? 

    Also, PorcelainFist would like to know if this wager is part of your record?
    What about the Penn St reference ... is that an official pick minus the customary 24,000 word writeup, or are you just playing with your followers?

    Again, PorcelainFist would like to know ... me ... I got your back, pal 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:

    Scal, as much as I would love to comment on this topic, whether in a sincere manner, or just to break your balls (more likely) I have to admit I have no idea wtf anyone is talking about.
    Good luck with the results of this tennis match? 

    Also, PorcelainFist would like to know if this wager is part of your record?
    What about the Penn St reference ... is that an official pick minus the customary 24,000 word writeup, or are you just playing with your followers?

    Again, PorcelainFist would like to know ... me ... I got your back, pal 

    This is a pick. It is a +135 bet after all. And the Penn State reference is to satisfy people like yourself, who spend countless days and nights frothing at the mouth for me to post. It is simply so this thread doesn't get moved (and was a wink and a nod to the win over Wisconsin) since you'd probably tell Covers help about it. Look how lightening fast you showed up here. Good lord.

    And if you don't know who Ronda Rousey is, get back to your meth induced slumber.
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    Scal, as much as I would love to comment on this topic, whether in a sincere manner, or just to break your balls (more likely) I have to admit I have no idea wtf anyone is talking about.
    Good luck with the results of this tennis match? 

    Also, PorcelainFist would like to know if this wager is part of your record?
    What about the Penn St reference ... is that an official pick minus the customary 24,000 word writeup, or are you just playing with your followers?

    Again, PorcelainFist would like to know ... me ... I got your back, pal 

    This is a pick. It is a +135 bet after all. And the Penn State reference is to satisfy people like yourself, who spend countless days and nights frothing at the mouth for me to post. It is simply so this thread doesn't get moved (and was a wink and a nod to the win over Wisconsin) since you'd probably tell Covers help about it. Look how lightening fast you showed up here. Good lord.

    And if you don't know who Ronda Rousey is, get back to your meth induced slumber.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:



    For the same reason I posted the ST Johns pick in it. The MMA section is a ghost town. Thanks for attempting to file this thread like a librarian (I'm sure BWS has his hair in a bun right now) but I'm making people money.

    And you clearly haven't watched many Nunes fights.

    You better not have any overdue books!!
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    For the same reason I posted the ST Johns pick in it. The MMA section is a ghost town. Thanks for attempting to file this thread like a librarian (I'm sure BWS has his hair in a bun right now) but I'm making people money.

    And you clearly haven't watched many Nunes fights.

    You better not have any overdue books!!
     
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    I don't know when you played this, but it has been up on my site for weeks now and it still sits at 

    Rousey -200
    Nunes +160
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    I don't know when you played this, but it has been up on my site for weeks now and it still sits at 

    Rousey -200
    Nunes +160
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

    I don't know when you played this, but it has been up on my site for weeks now and it still sits at 

    Rousey -200
    Nunes +160

    5Dimes has it at +135. I only post their lines. +160? All the better for others.
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    I don't know when you played this, but it has been up on my site for weeks now and it still sits at 

    Rousey -200
    Nunes +160

    5Dimes has it at +135. I only post their lines. +160? All the better for others.
     
     
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    Its +135 -160 at betdsi with the ov 1.5 @ +185
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