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Quote Originally Posted by NewDarkDay:

dude u dont get it,theres no debating the SEc east is garbage  and Georgia took advantage of a easy schedule they didnt play Lsu,Bama,and Arkansas the 3 best teams in the Sec and 3 of the top 6 or 7 teams in the nation, with that being said  theres  ahuge gap between  lsu,bama   and rest of sec                 lsu,and bama are clearly on another level from rest of that conference and to tell the truth those 2 teams LSU,Bama are on a whole different level than Ok St,Stanford,Boise or anyone else in nation for that matter,so u really have no idea if the rest of the sec is down or not cause u really cant compare the rest of the SEC  to rest of nation,so in my opinion LSU1 Alabama 2  and a huge gap between Alabama and number 3
  Hey everybody!!  Put the serious cash down on georgia tomorrow!! They can't lose now!
 
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Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:

just saw this.....love these ICE vs the world threads ...

definitely overrated this year.....but

question.....in a GTTH (gun to the head) scenario.....neutral field

Okie St vs Bama.......who ya got?


it's always me vs. the world...


however, i don't really want to answer that question because i believe it is a moot point... if i say "Alabama," then people will say i am contradicting myself (even though i'm not)... and if i say "Okie St," they will say i am just an SEC-hater...


until LSU - Okie St (or Alabama - Okie St) is listed on the Bowl Schedule and a line is put up... i honestly couldn't tell you who i would take in a Pick 'em game... i don't think it is as cut-and-dry as everybody thinks...

i will only say this... historically, in a SEC - Big 12 Bowl matchup, where the teams appear to be evenly matched... i have almost always gone with the SEC team... in the past...
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:



i will only say this... historically, in a SEC - Big 12 Bowl matchup, where the teams appear to be evenly matched... i have almost always gone with the SEC team... in the past...



then again... in those matchups, i was usually betting against the team whose conference i believed was over-rated that year...
 
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Man, you have to see the BCS for what it is. Just a money making machine. 

You can argue all day on who beat who, where they beat em, how bad they beat em. The point of the BCS isn't to put the best 2 teams in the NC game. If they happen to get 2 undefeated teams like last year and/or when Texas faced USC, then it makes it easy for them. 

The point is to get people to debate about who the best teams are and watch all the games once the initial rankings are released. That way you care and will actually watch. How many people will tune in to watch OSU-OU just to see if OSU can win and run up the score and earn some BCS love? It's makes the product more sellable. Therefore making themselves more money!! 

They don't give a shit about the rankings or who they put in the NC game! As long as the money keeps flowin, those BCS fuckers could care less. More controversy makes them more money. They love it when there are multiple 1-loss teams. Then it becomes everyday talk around the water cooler. 

Until the teams lineup on the field, you'll never know who would win. 
 
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great post, S A I N T S... would agree with all of it... they love it when we get 2 (and only 2) BCS conference teams that are undefeated... then they get to say... "See?  it works!"... and people buy it!
 
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Lucan-

Calm down and take your meds- Funny how you can dish it out but you can't take it when somebody calls you an Alabama and SEC homer. Yet in tons of threads whenever anybody has anything critical to  say about Alabama then you say they are either dumb, ignorant or even worse. We just disagree on Alabama and the SEC(this year)- Fact is the SEC is having a down year. Everyone on here sees that except you and a couple of others. Fact is Alabama's stats were skewed by playing crappy offensive teams. Before you blow another top- i still think Alabama's defense is very good. I am not an Alabama hater like you think. I am just a realist. And trust me, i would be more than glad to talk to you and say these things face to face. It seems to be perfectly fine for you to come in these threads and spread your homerism but when i say critical things about Alabama you go nuts. The only thing i can say is we will see. But i can promise you one thing- IF Alabama wins, i will not cry and whine about why LSU lost or why they are better. I will simply say Alabama deserves to be champion because they won when it mattered the most. Too bad you would never do the same.

 
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Saints-

Totally agree but if the powers that be can ever figure out how to divide all the money that would be made from a playoff then they will have a playoff. It is all about $$$$ and a playoff system could make a mint. And they could still have bowl games as well for those that don't make the playoff.

 
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Wayyyy too many pages for me to read through this thread, but on this page alone I see an Okie St-bama/lsu thought. If you're on the Okie st side I gotta ask "have you watched them this year?", yes Blackmon can be a stud but you gotta stop someone sometime IMO. I know LSU-Bama probably don't score 40+ on everyone, but they won't allow 17+ and they will score 30 on most.

C'mon Man, arguing Okie st over those top 2 SEC schools, I'm a Big 10 man myself but I recognize Bullshit and Greatness. Okie St is total BULLSHIT and those 2 Def's in the SEC are pretty damn impressive. Granted the Okie St tribesman will claim Iowa St was a beast and rose up to shock them. I watched that game w/ iowa st +27 or some shit, also watched Okie St get lucky to beat A&M, Who have those 2 SEC teams struggled with this year?
 
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ice u sir r an IDIOT - big 12
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Tappy:


It was either that or Florida... And we won that game by 24 points... Are you noticing something here? 


claiming 6-6 Florida is Bama's best win... who's only win over an FBS team since September is Vandy.. at home.. by 5..

Bama's schedule

 
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sec is by far the toughest conference in college football from top to bottom. They should receive higher votes due to scheduling and they are definitetly not overrated. A 1 loss Alabama team is more deserving of a NC game than an undefeated team from any other conference IMO.
 
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Not to start any sort of war of words here but I'm strictly a numbers guy.  I don't go on how I feel but what the numbers tell me.  I built a statistical analysis that lets me compare teams so I plugged in Alabama vs. Oklahoma St.  Alabama is a 6.2 point favorite over Oklahoma St.  It's hard to get into but if you dig a little deeper into this number it reveals that Alabama would be more than likely win the game by at least 10 points.

No disrespect to Oklahoma St. my friend but statistics are not biased if you know how to compare them correctly.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by blowoutgm:

Lucan-

Calm down and take your meds- Funny how you can dish it out but you can't take it when somebody calls you an Alabama and SEC homer. Yet in tons of threads whenever anybody has anything critical to  say about Alabama then you say they are either dumb, ignorant or even worse. We just disagree on Alabama and the SEC(this year)- Fact is the SEC is having a down year. Everyone on here sees that except you and a couple of others. Fact is Alabama's stats were skewed by playing crappy offensive teams. Before you blow another top- i still think Alabama's defense is very good. I am not an Alabama hater like you think. I am just a realist. And trust me, i would be more than glad to talk to you and say these things face to face. It seems to be perfectly fine for you to come in these threads and spread your homerism but when i say critical things about Alabama you go nuts. The only thing i can say is we will see. But i can promise you one thing- IF Alabama wins, i will not cry and whine about why LSU lost or why they are better. I will simply say Alabama deserves to be champion because they won when it mattered the most. Too bad you would never do the same.

By meds would be if you stop pointing me out in these forums...

I don't care if people call me a homer or an Alabama fan and i don't attack people until they attack me first. Now as far as saying something back on a post about Alabama it depends usally i will pass, until that person keeps driven it into the ground....then i will say something...

Now with that said, you don't like me and i damn sure don't like you, so stop you're Bipolar Disorder attacks and fuck off.

I have told you so many times it's starting to piss me off Blowhard find you somebody else to fuck with...k.

You're right about me standing up to pricks like you, if i'm wrong so be it, i'm wrong....

I as of late have decided that i would stand up for Alabama somebody has too because pricks like you dog them out and it gets old reading it.

I would rather just come here everyday and read and not post back much. But i decided not to if it gets out of hand kicking Alabama all over this forum...

I hate LSU but from the 1st of the year i have bragged on them even before the season started right here in these forums.

I still have not figured out were you say i'm crying , whinning , etc. About the Alabama vs LSU game i said congrats to all you LSU fans. And once again let me tell you.... I DON'T CARE ABOUT ALABAMA LOSING THE GAME ANYMORE....

It's the past but LSU will not win the next game and you know it, you even said LSU would lose the 1st game remember...talk to other people blowhard, but leave me out of it -k.

I can't convince you in any other way but threw this computer so move on. Oh and believe me that makes you a lucky person. So take you're luck that you have be greatfull and cap you some games...because you or really lucky blowhard. See ya Coonass

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Quote Originally Posted by TomLoker:

Not to start any sort of war of words here but I'm strictly a numbers guy.  I don't go on how I feel but what the numbers tell me.  I built a statistical analysis that lets me compare teams so I plugged in Alabama vs. Oklahoma St.  Alabama is a 6.2 point favorite over Oklahoma St.  It's hard to get into but if you dig a little deeper into this number it reveals that Alabama would be more than likely win the game by at least 10 points.

No disrespect to Oklahoma St. my friend but statistics are not biased if you know how to compare them correctly.

Interesting would like to learn how you compare them correctly.

 
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Alabama has beaten two teams with winning records lol.. they are not capabale of beating a defense like LSU with the 3 plays that they run. Mcelwain is beyond embarrassing and would not hold a job at any other school in the country with that laughable offense. It's like watching a child play NCAA online.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:

Alabama has beaten two teams with winning records lol.. they are not capabale of beating a defense like LSU with the 3 plays that they run. Mcelwain is beyond embarrassing and would not hold a job at any other school in the country with that laughable offense. It's like watching a child play NCAA online.

Dude...you're kidding.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:

Alabama has beaten two teams with winning records lol.. they are not capabale of beating a defense like LSU with the 3 plays that they run. Mcelwain is beyond embarrassing and would not hold a job at any other school in the country with that laughable offense. It's like watching a child play NCAA online.

You watch children play NCAA online

Do this wheels after the NCG if there's a rematch make you a thread and laugh you're ass off if it makes you feel like a big man,

Just to let everybody know, if you think Alabama just has 3 plays maybe you should join the children playing NCAA online, because you're as bright as the sun...

 
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Quote Originally Posted by lloydjugg191:

I started an account just to prove that Ice Blood is an idiot and using big words doesn't make you smart.

(Look 1st post ever)

First off, 5 straight titles means more returning players = more titles.  (i.e. MJ wins 5 straight... queue shot over Russell ) So in a way it kinda does matter.

Heres a stat I conjured up. The average CCR ranking of the 12 SEC teams is 47.75. Whereas the Big 12 is 40.7 .  So you have a DECENT argument.  That being said...

 I still think the SEC is better just watching from a football standpoint. Speed, Talent, Coaching, etc. Also every team that played either LSU, BAMA or ARKY in the SEC can chalk that one up as a loss. So of course the rest of the conference is gonna be down. (Heeeeeyyyyy  kinda like when the Big 12 was 3-team top heavy)    hmmmmm.....   

  I think the depth of the sec is down but when you have the top 3 teams in the BCS with one week to go thats not considered down to me, I dont give a damn how bad Mississippi is. When Ohio State and Michigan met for the title did anybody consider the Big 10 to be "down"?!?  I dont give a damn if they didnt win even there division LSU and BAMA should rematch.

Ok IceBlood so based off those numbers lets just suppose the Big 12 is better.  Then in what would be a very close 2nd best conference in the country or otherwise no one has come within 13 points of beating LSU.  No one has come within 16 points of BAMA.  OKst had 2 very close losses and LOST to a mediocre Iowa St. team.   Bama and LSU would beat Iowa St. by 2 touchdowns on their worst day. No wait.... Bama and LSU would beat Iowa St. by @ least 2 touchdowns on their worst day. Gimme a break dude.

Either way I got the Sooners over the Cowboys Anyway, then you will realize you wasted about 8,934 characters of gibberish (<- big word) in your parents basement when you couldve been out jumping on your pogo stick. 




 
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Quote Originally Posted by lloydjugg191:

I started an account just to prove that Ice Blood is an idiot and using big words doesn't make you smart.

(Look 1st post ever)

First off, 5 straight titles means more returning players = more titles.  (i.e. MJ wins 5 straight... queue shot over Russell ) So in a way it kinda does matter.

Heres a stat I conjured up. The average CCR ranking of the 12 SEC teams is 47.75. Whereas the Big 12 is 40.7 .  So you have a DECENT argument.  That being said...

 I still think the SEC is better just watching from a football standpoint. Speed, Talent, Coaching, etc. Also every team that played either LSU, BAMA or ARKY in the SEC can chalk that one up as a loss. So of course the rest of the conference is gonna be down. (Heeeeeyyyyy  kinda like when the Big 12 was 3-team top heavy)    hmmmmm.....   

  I think the depth of the sec is down but when you have the top 3 teams in the BCS with one week to go thats not considered down to me, I dont give a damn how bad Mississippi is. When Ohio State and Michigan met for the title did anybody consider the Big 10 to be "down"?!?  I dont give a damn if they didnt win even there division LSU and BAMA should rematch.

Ok IceBlood so based off those numbers lets just suppose the Big 12 is better.  Then in what would be a very close 2nd best conference in the country or otherwise no one has come within 13 points of beating LSU.  No one has come within 16 points of BAMA.  OKst had 2 very close losses and LOST to a mediocre Iowa St. team.   Bama and LSU would beat Iowa St. by 2 touchdowns on their worst day. No wait.... Bama and LSU would beat Iowa St. by @ least 2 touchdowns on their worst day. Gimme a break dude.

Either way I got the Sooners over the Cowboys Anyway, then you will realize you wasted about 8,934 characters of gibberish (<- big word) in your parents basement when you couldve been out jumping on your pogo stick. 

Welcome to the the covers football forum great 1st post...love it.

 

 
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I don't understand:  LSU and Bammy are the KINGS this season.  Okie Lite can't possibly hang with either.

Top to bottom, the Big 12 might be better...but who cares?  It's all about the TOP and OU/OSU would get asses handed to them by either LSU or Bammy .  

I'm in the middle of Big 12 country, and I don't see an argument here.  
 
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Damn computer jumping keys, this piece of shit never buy a Vista people worst computers on the market.

 
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Ice4Blood is pretty much considered a troll at the moment. He doesn't actually wager on games, he just comes on to discuss the BCS. And if you disagree with him your "wrong" and it's "not debatable". What a fucking tool lol.
 
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Some people in this thread may look very stupid if Georgia pull the upset today, and IF it did happen those people won't return to this thread and own up to their statements that lsu/bama are "clearly the 2 best teams
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Laroja:

Ice4Blood is pretty much considered a troll at the moment. He doesn't actually wager on games, he just comes on to discuss the BCS. And if you disagree with him your "wrong" and it's "not debatable". What a fucking tool lol.

Actually ICE is one of the most knowledgable guys here and wins every year. I know for a fact. I can vouch for him as he can for me
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