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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2009 - 12:08 AM ET #101

    Quote Originally Posted by Izzy-2020:

    I just think your a little bent because you thought a ton of $$$ would come in on your Pirates and you were getting a sweet line.  And the exact opposite happened.  You could have probably got them +4 by kickoff!!  Good luck dude, just admit that you were wrong about which side the $$$ would come in on!

    Sharps either bet right when the line comes out or just before the game. That's why they are "sharp." You also know sharps make most of their money on middles don't you? There is a good chance they hit Houston when they first came out and now they are sitting back waiting for the public to drive the line up and they will pound ECU just before gametime, trying to middle it. You aren't following sharp money, you are following public money. Good luck Ludawg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izzy-2020:

    I just think your a little bent because you thought a ton of $$$ would come in on your Pirates and you were getting a sweet line.  And the exact opposite happened.  You could have probably got them +4 by kickoff!!  Good luck dude, just admit that you were wrong about which side the $$$ would come in on!

    Sharps either bet right when the line comes out or just before the game. That's why they are "sharp." You also know sharps make most of their money on middles don't you? There is a good chance they hit Houston when they first came out and now they are sitting back waiting for the public to drive the line up and they will pound ECU just before gametime, trying to middle it. You aren't following sharp money, you are following public money. Good luck Ludawg.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2009 - 12:11 AM ET #102

    i always mess up on this quote then comment thing
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2009 - 12:13 AM ET #103

    Quote Originally Posted by Uconn34:



    Agree on the gameplan part.. but that was an Okie State team with a healthy Robinson and Hunter and Dez Bryant..

    I do agree with the motivation factor- UH couldn't stop anyone on UTEP or CFU from scoring- yet held Miss St to 24 points? 

    I think if Cougars can force 2+ TO's, they will win, as TO's played an important role in both big road wins.. not too worried about the line movement or the fishy line, as it's now adjusted and at 3 at some books.

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    Agree on the gameplan part.. but that was an Okie State team with a healthy Robinson and Hunter and Dez Bryant..

    I do agree with the motivation factor- UH couldn't stop anyone on UTEP or CFU from scoring- yet held Miss St to 24 points? 

    I think if Cougars can force 2+ TO's, they will win, as TO's played an important role in both big road wins.. not too worried about the line movement or the fishy line, as it's now adjusted and at 3 at some books.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2009 - 12:13 AM ET #104

    Quote Originally Posted by LuDawg:


    If Houston only scores 41, they will lose the game.




    ECU has eclipsed that number twice this year.  Once to a team who Houston put more points on in the first half than ECU did in the entire game (and could of EASILY had 100+), and once to the team Houston put 70 on last year.

    You continue to leave out the fact that Tulsa turned the ball over 7 times in that game and ECU still only won by 3.

    Houston doesn't turn the ball over.  Keenum has 6 picks on the year, and 3 of them hit his receiver in the hands.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LuDawg:


    If Houston only scores 41, they will lose the game.




    ECU has eclipsed that number twice this year.  Once to a team who Houston put more points on in the first half than ECU did in the entire game (and could of EASILY had 100+), and once to the team Houston put 70 on last year.

    You continue to leave out the fact that Tulsa turned the ball over 7 times in that game and ECU still only won by 3.

    Houston doesn't turn the ball over.  Keenum has 6 picks on the year, and 3 of them hit his receiver in the hands.


     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2009 - 12:17 AM ET #105

    Also, anyone that has scored more than 28 on ECU this year has won. 

    Unfortunately for the Pirates, that is 17 points below the Coogs' average.
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    Also, anyone that has scored more than 28 on ECU this year has won. 

    Unfortunately for the Pirates, that is 17 points below the Coogs' average.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2009 - 12:21 AM ET #106

    EC lost to SMU   should be close as EC is not an offensive team  lean with UH but BOL
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2009 - 8:58 AM ET #107

    December 3, 2009

    From Bonesville.net
    -Myatt: View from the 'ville
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    Bucs brace for Keenum, Cougars

    From the Greenville Daily Reflector
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    Pinkney gears up for final two games as a Pirate
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    Pirate booty- C-USA game boosts local economy
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    Rumors swirl around Holtz

    From the Washington Daily News
    -Case closed- Pirates must stop Keenum

    Secondary a big part of ECU’s success
    Kinston Free Press

    ECU defense faces big test in Keenum
    Raleigh News & Observer

    East Carolina aims to slow Houston, claim second C-USA title
    Orlando Sentinel

    Cougars offense thrives behind 1500 pounds of fun
    Houston Chronicle

    Eskridge, ECU facing big challenge in Conference USA title game
    Shelby Star

    Cougars collide with Pirates in C-USA title game
    Sports Network


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    December 3, 2009

    From Bonesville.net
    -Myatt: View from the 'ville
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    Bucs brace for Keenum, Cougars

    From the Greenville Daily Reflector
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    Pinkney gears up for final two games as a Pirate
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    Pirate booty- C-USA game boosts local economy
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    Rumors swirl around Holtz

    From the Washington Daily News
    -Case closed- Pirates must stop Keenum

    Secondary a big part of ECU’s success
    Kinston Free Press

    ECU defense faces big test in Keenum
    Raleigh News & Observer

    East Carolina aims to slow Houston, claim second C-USA title
    Orlando Sentinel

    Cougars offense thrives behind 1500 pounds of fun
    Houston Chronicle

    Eskridge, ECU facing big challenge in Conference USA title game
    Shelby Star

    Cougars collide with Pirates in C-USA title game
    Sports Network


     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2009 - 9:01 AM ET #108

    From the East Carolinian

    -High noon defense

    -Davis and the Pirate defense ready for showdown with the nation's No. 1 offense

    -Read Hosting championship game stamps senior class' place in ECU football history
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    ECU's two-decade road to becoming a football powerhouse

    Tickets Going Quickly for Conference USA Championship Game
    WNCT

    College Football Championship Weekend Everything Is On The Line
    Bleacher Report

    Weekend Forecast- Florida and Alabama just part of great finish to regular season
    USA Today

    Favorites tend to rule in conference title games
    Sports Network

    Updated bowl game projections
    CNN

    AP bowl projections
    Huntington Herald-Dispatch

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    From the East Carolinian

    -High noon defense

    -Davis and the Pirate defense ready for showdown with the nation's No. 1 offense

    -Read Hosting championship game stamps senior class' place in ECU football history
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    ECU's two-decade road to becoming a football powerhouse

    Tickets Going Quickly for Conference USA Championship Game
    WNCT

    College Football Championship Weekend Everything Is On The Line
    Bleacher Report

    Weekend Forecast- Florida and Alabama just part of great finish to regular season
    USA Today

    Favorites tend to rule in conference title games
    Sports Network

    Updated bowl game projections
    CNN

    AP bowl projections
    Huntington Herald-Dispatch

     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2009 - 9:22 AM ET #109

    https://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2009/12/weekend-forecast-florida-and-alabama-just-part-of-great-finish-to-regular-season/1

    No. 18 Houston at East Carolina, noon
    Maybe after the Pirates take care of the Cougars and slow down quarterback Case Keenum some attention will start getting paid to Skip Holtz outside of Greenville. East Carolina 35, Houston 31.
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    No. 18 Houston at East Carolina, noon
    Maybe after the Pirates take care of the Cougars and slow down quarterback Case Keenum some attention will start getting paid to Skip Holtz outside of Greenville. East Carolina 35, Houston 31.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2009 - 9:27 AM ET #110

    Sorry, here's the LINK
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2009 - 9:39 AM ET #111

    College Football News Preview LINK
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2009 - 9:57 AM ET #112

      Any updated weather forecast..Is it dry? Is it going to be windy? Anyone looking at the O/U 70?
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    I probably won't touch the o/u

    Weather looks cold, low 40's and rainy/wintry.  
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    Weather looks cold, low 40's and rainy/wintry.  
     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2009 - 10:10 AM ET #114

    Over 4 inches of rain hit the turf in Greenville yesterday.  Bagwell field drains very well, but if the ground is saturated when the rain starts early Saturday morning, it will get slippery pretty quick.
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    Over 4 inches of rain hit the turf in Greenville yesterday.  Bagwell field drains very well, but if the ground is saturated when the rain starts early Saturday morning, it will get slippery pretty quick.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2009 - 12:19 PM ET #115

    Love the insight on this thread!  Also, not tryin to be a dick, just tryin to get people to back their plays/opinions with facts.  I don't know where you people get your $$$, but mine comes from my pockets and I don't much like giving it away w/o all of the information possible to make an informative decision.  With that being said, and with everything already provided on this thread, the UNDER has to be the play in this game!  Totals too high, even for Houston.  Factor in ECU defense, weather, and starting time.  At least it's the best chance of actually collecting $$$ on a game this closly matched.  And LuDawg, u sir are certainly the biggest ECU fan that I have ever encountered!
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    Love the insight on this thread!  Also, not tryin to be a dick, just tryin to get people to back their plays/opinions with facts.  I don't know where you people get your $$$, but mine comes from my pockets and I don't much like giving it away w/o all of the information possible to make an informative decision.  With that being said, and with everything already provided on this thread, the UNDER has to be the play in this game!  Totals too high, even for Houston.  Factor in ECU defense, weather, and starting time.  At least it's the best chance of actually collecting $$$ on a game this closly matched.  And LuDawg, u sir are certainly the biggest ECU fan that I have ever encountered!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2009 - 1:10 PM ET #116

    Come on Izzy...It's Skip Holtz....
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2009 - 1:42 PM ET #117

    I know it's Skip but I just think this one stays under.  ECU will play better D than most teams Houston has faced.  Seems the UNDER play has the best value in this game! 
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    I know it's Skip but I just think this one stays under.  ECU will play better D than most teams Houston has faced.  Seems the UNDER play has the best value in this game! 
     
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    You said this:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by LuDawg:

    Shrimp, you know as well as I do that football teams, especially college football teams, have a life span of one season only. 

     

    Then you said this:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by LuDawg:

    ECU returned nearly everyone on defense from a team that shut down last years most prolific offense, Tulsa, at home on their artificial turf field in excellent weather conditions.  Shut them down, folks, forcing 7 turnovers. That same Pirate defense will get Houston at home on grass in a cold rain, for all the marbles. 

     

    That is completely contradicting yourself.

     

    They did not shut down Houston last season as they gave up 691 yards at home. If it matters none about year to year then shutting down last’s years Tulsa team means nothing as well.

     

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    You said this:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by LuDawg:

    Shrimp, you know as well as I do that football teams, especially college football teams, have a life span of one season only. 

     

    Then you said this:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by LuDawg:

    ECU returned nearly everyone on defense from a team that shut down last years most prolific offense, Tulsa, at home on their artificial turf field in excellent weather conditions.  Shut them down, folks, forcing 7 turnovers. That same Pirate defense will get Houston at home on grass in a cold rain, for all the marbles. 

     

    That is completely contradicting yourself.

     

    They did not shut down Houston last season as they gave up 691 yards at home. If it matters none about year to year then shutting down last’s years Tulsa team means nothing as well.

     

     
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    Very true.  


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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2009 - 2:31 PM ET #120

    Quote Originally Posted by Izzy-2020:

    Love the insight on this thread!  Also, not tryin to be a dick, just tryin to get people to back their plays/opinions with facts.  I don't know where you people get your $$$, but mine comes from my pockets and I don't much like giving it away w/o all of the information possible to make an informative decision.  With that being said, and with everything already provided on this thread, the UNDER has to be the play in this game!  Totals too high, even for Houston.  Factor in ECU defense, weather, and starting time.  At least it's the best chance of actually collecting $$$ on a game this closly matched.  And LuDawg, u sir are certainly the biggest ECU fan that I have ever encountered!

    I wish the weathermen were as good at the weather forecast as some of you are at Handicapping I am leaning to the Under also..I am going to look at that forecast now and if its wet and cold I do believe it favores ECU and the Under

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izzy-2020:

    Love the insight on this thread!  Also, not tryin to be a dick, just tryin to get people to back their plays/opinions with facts.  I don't know where you people get your $$$, but mine comes from my pockets and I don't much like giving it away w/o all of the information possible to make an informative decision.  With that being said, and with everything already provided on this thread, the UNDER has to be the play in this game!  Totals too high, even for Houston.  Factor in ECU defense, weather, and starting time.  At least it's the best chance of actually collecting $$$ on a game this closly matched.  And LuDawg, u sir are certainly the biggest ECU fan that I have ever encountered!

    I wish the weathermen were as good at the weather forecast as some of you are at Handicapping I am leaning to the Under also..I am going to look at that forecast now and if its wet and cold I do believe it favores ECU and the Under

     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2009 - 10:29 PM ET #121

    All right, I am ECU's second biggest fan since LuDawg is their biggest...I am a season ticket holder and have watched every game....My first thought on this game was to take Houston based on their potent aerial attack...However, after watching the weather situation closely, I am taking ECU hopefully getting +3.  The weather factor will play right into ECU's game plan as they will establish the run on this porous run defense of Houston.  They will eat up time of possesion with RB Dominique Lindsey.  Patrick Pinkney (i personally know PP by the way..), 6th year qb has been playing some of his best football the last 5 games..He will also throw just enough to keep a good balance.  But the difference will be ECU's defensive line.  This line is just as big and just as quick off of the ball as some SEC teams. 

    Some in this post have asked about the O/U.  I will be on the Under as well.  ECU will run, run, and run some more.  The wet ball will definitely affect Houston more than ECU.  90% chance of rain up to a couple of inches at gametime with possible wintery mix...(as heard by local reliable Greenville weatherman 2night) has me confident with the ECU play and Under.

     

     

     

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    All right, I am ECU's second biggest fan since LuDawg is their biggest...I am a season ticket holder and have watched every game....My first thought on this game was to take Houston based on their potent aerial attack...However, after watching the weather situation closely, I am taking ECU hopefully getting +3.  The weather factor will play right into ECU's game plan as they will establish the run on this porous run defense of Houston.  They will eat up time of possesion with RB Dominique Lindsey.  Patrick Pinkney (i personally know PP by the way..), 6th year qb has been playing some of his best football the last 5 games..He will also throw just enough to keep a good balance.  But the difference will be ECU's defensive line.  This line is just as big and just as quick off of the ball as some SEC teams. 

    Some in this post have asked about the O/U.  I will be on the Under as well.  ECU will run, run, and run some more.  The wet ball will definitely affect Houston more than ECU.  90% chance of rain up to a couple of inches at gametime with possible wintery mix...(as heard by local reliable Greenville weatherman 2night) has me confident with the ECU play and Under.

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2009 - 9:53 AM ET #122

    got it up to +3 ludawg . do u see it going even higher??

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    got it up to +3 ludawg . do u see it going even higher??

     
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    UNDER = cha ching  (70)
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2009 - 10:14 AM ET #124

    rainy, raw day is the word from the weather geeks
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2009 - 10:27 AM ET #125

    Gold Sheet prediction:

    EAST CAROLINA 33 - Houston 30—Handicapping this game is very challenging, as Houston's offense is so dazzling it's easy to be blinded to almost everything else in the matchup.  The Cougars have been held to fewer than 30 points just once all season (and that was their 29-28 upset win over Big XII rep Texas Tech), and they've eclipsed 40 points sixteen times in the last two campaigns.
    Jr. QB Case Keenum's passing stats (9994 YP, 82 TDP, only 17 ints. in just the last two years!) look more like something you'd see in a video game rather than what could possibly be achieved in actual football games.  KO power?  Just ask Houston's last two opponents, as the Cougars cold-cocked poor  Memphis & Rice
    with a combined 103 points & 908 yards during the first half in a pair of lopsided victories.
    Still, while we wouldn't be surprised if Houston is able to ride its juggernaut attack past East Carolina, there are plenty of reasons to believe the Pirates are capable of emerging with a win.  First, ECU's deep, veteran defense is no pushover and rates a substantial edge over the poor-tackling Cougar stop unit.
    (Remember, the proud Pirates went on the road for last year's C-USA title game and pulled off a major upset by successfully defusing the ticking time-bomb that was Tulsa's top-ranked offense).  Also, ECU has a sixth-year senior at QB in
    Patrick Pinkney (68%, 795 YP no ints. in last three games), who's found a good groove down the stretch after struggling early.  And Pinkney & the Pirates benefit from a productive rushing attack that could keep Keenum & Co. idling on the sidelines for substantial stretches.  Add in head coach Skip Holtz's solid 21-10 mark as an underdog since taking the helm at ECU (although he's just 1-3
    in that role this season), and we'll go against prolific Houston (GULP!) in favor of the more well-rounded host Pirates.  CABLE TV—ESPN

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    Gold Sheet prediction:

    EAST CAROLINA 33 - Houston 30—Handicapping this game is very challenging, as Houston's offense is so dazzling it's easy to be blinded to almost everything else in the matchup.  The Cougars have been held to fewer than 30 points just once all season (and that was their 29-28 upset win over Big XII rep Texas Tech), and they've eclipsed 40 points sixteen times in the last two campaigns.
    Jr. QB Case Keenum's passing stats (9994 YP, 82 TDP, only 17 ints. in just the last two years!) look more like something you'd see in a video game rather than what could possibly be achieved in actual football games.  KO power?  Just ask Houston's last two opponents, as the Cougars cold-cocked poor  Memphis & Rice
    with a combined 103 points & 908 yards during the first half in a pair of lopsided victories.
    Still, while we wouldn't be surprised if Houston is able to ride its juggernaut attack past East Carolina, there are plenty of reasons to believe the Pirates are capable of emerging with a win.  First, ECU's deep, veteran defense is no pushover and rates a substantial edge over the poor-tackling Cougar stop unit.
    (Remember, the proud Pirates went on the road for last year's C-USA title game and pulled off a major upset by successfully defusing the ticking time-bomb that was Tulsa's top-ranked offense).  Also, ECU has a sixth-year senior at QB in
    Patrick Pinkney (68%, 795 YP no ints. in last three games), who's found a good groove down the stretch after struggling early.  And Pinkney & the Pirates benefit from a productive rushing attack that could keep Keenum & Co. idling on the sidelines for substantial stretches.  Add in head coach Skip Holtz's solid 21-10 mark as an underdog since taking the helm at ECU (although he's just 1-3
    in that role this season), and we'll go against prolific Houston (GULP!) in favor of the more well-rounded host Pirates.  CABLE TV—ESPN

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