With the other bowls...if you don't have 8 wins...you don't make it. That's it
would love to see that rule, but i don't think it is realistic to hope for it... would eliminate too many Bowl Games...
but they should at least make 7 wins a necessity, and i don't think any Div II wins should count towards your win total for bowl eligibility... letting 6-6 teams into bowl games is just stupid!
16-team playoff doesn't work... the only viable solution is 8... once you add an extra week to the process, you start giving the opponents of a playoff extra excuses to prevent it...
8 works! period... there's no need to make it any more complicated than that... the 16th seed would never EVER ever win a College playoff, so there is no point going that far down... if you can't make the top 8, tough shit... enjoy your consolation bowl game...
With the other bowls...if you don't have 8 wins...you don't make it. That's it
would love to see that rule, but i don't think it is realistic to hope for it... would eliminate too many Bowl Games...
but they should at least make 7 wins a necessity, and i don't think any Div II wins should count towards your win total for bowl eligibility... letting 6-6 teams into bowl games is just stupid!
16-team playoff doesn't work... the only viable solution is 8... once you add an extra week to the process, you start giving the opponents of a playoff extra excuses to prevent it...
8 works! period... there's no need to make it any more complicated than that... the 16th seed would never EVER ever win a College playoff, so there is no point going that far down... if you can't make the top 8, tough shit... enjoy your consolation bowl game...
That way EVERYONE is happy. If you arent in the top 8 in the BCS...you really don't have a leg to stand on as far as deserving a shot.
It doesn't interfere with schooling because it is during winter break.
Round of 8 on January 1st
Round of 4 on January 8th
Champ Game on January 15th
It's all about the Execs. They won't be happy with a playoff unless it's geared towards them making more dollars than they are now. They take home more than the teams in almost every major bowl.
That way EVERYONE is happy. If you arent in the top 8 in the BCS...you really don't have a leg to stand on as far as deserving a shot.
It doesn't interfere with schooling because it is during winter break.
Round of 8 on January 1st
Round of 4 on January 8th
Champ Game on January 15th
It's all about the Execs. They won't be happy with a playoff unless it's geared towards them making more dollars than they are now. They take home more than the teams in almost every major bowl.
You know what is the thing that has always bother me, every other division of college football has a playoff,down to div.4 I think is the last one,so if it has worked,and very good btw,why do they keep from doing it in the big division. Yeh I know they make all this money on the bowl games,but how many of these stupid bowl games had team with 6-6 records playing each other,how much money is that going to bring,a team without a winning record shouldnt even be in a bowl to begin with. Can not see any reason they cant put a playoff system involving the bowl games to find a true #1 team by playing for it. So then the argument is to many games,so do we really need to see the games all the schools play at the beginning of the year to make sure they start off with 2 or 3 easy wins,no.Just go right into Conf.play and you will have plenty of time and games from end of Nov.into Jan.to do a real playoff system.
You know what is the thing that has always bother me, every other division of college football has a playoff,down to div.4 I think is the last one,so if it has worked,and very good btw,why do they keep from doing it in the big division. Yeh I know they make all this money on the bowl games,but how many of these stupid bowl games had team with 6-6 records playing each other,how much money is that going to bring,a team without a winning record shouldnt even be in a bowl to begin with. Can not see any reason they cant put a playoff system involving the bowl games to find a true #1 team by playing for it. So then the argument is to many games,so do we really need to see the games all the schools play at the beginning of the year to make sure they start off with 2 or 3 easy wins,no.Just go right into Conf.play and you will have plenty of time and games from end of Nov.into Jan.to do a real playoff system.
So you're conceding that the BCS does a good job of ranking the teams?
i believe he is conceding that the BCS will have to be involved in whatever Playoff system there is... and that their rankings are the rankings that will be used to determine the 8 teams in the playoffs, whether they do a good job or not...
besides, conceding that they do a good job of ranking the top 8 teams is NOT the same as saying they do a good job of picking the top 2...
there is something called "margin of error" that some people (you!) don't seem to be able to comprehend...
question: would you concede that putting Green Bay and San Francisco in the NFL championship game (without the hassle of a playoff) is a good idea? because that is what we would get if the current BCS system were used in the NFL...
and no, it wouldn't be the top team from each conference... if that were the case, we wouldn't have 2 teams from the SEC playing each other (again!)...
So you're conceding that the BCS does a good job of ranking the teams?
i believe he is conceding that the BCS will have to be involved in whatever Playoff system there is... and that their rankings are the rankings that will be used to determine the 8 teams in the playoffs, whether they do a good job or not...
besides, conceding that they do a good job of ranking the top 8 teams is NOT the same as saying they do a good job of picking the top 2...
there is something called "margin of error" that some people (you!) don't seem to be able to comprehend...
question: would you concede that putting Green Bay and San Francisco in the NFL championship game (without the hassle of a playoff) is a good idea? because that is what we would get if the current BCS system were used in the NFL...
and no, it wouldn't be the top team from each conference... if that were the case, we wouldn't have 2 teams from the SEC playing each other (again!)...
i believe he is conceding that the BCS will have to be involved in whatever Playoff system there is... and that their rankings are the rankings that will be used to determine the 8 teams in the playoffs, whether they do a good job or not...
besides, conceding that they do a good job of ranking the top 8 teams is NOT the same as saying they do a good job of picking the top 2...
there is something called "margin of error" that some people (you!) don't seem to be able to comprehend...
question: would you concede that putting Green Bay and San Francisco in the NFL championship game (without the hassle of a playoff) is a good idea? because that is what we would get if the current BCS system were used in the NFL...
and no, it wouldn't be the top team from each conference... if that were the case, we wouldn't have 2 teams from the SEC playing each other (again!)...
Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:
i believe he is conceding that the BCS will have to be involved in whatever Playoff system there is... and that their rankings are the rankings that will be used to determine the 8 teams in the playoffs, whether they do a good job or not...
besides, conceding that they do a good job of ranking the top 8 teams is NOT the same as saying they do a good job of picking the top 2...
there is something called "margin of error" that some people (you!) don't seem to be able to comprehend...
question: would you concede that putting Green Bay and San Francisco in the NFL championship game (without the hassle of a playoff) is a good idea? because that is what we would get if the current BCS system were used in the NFL...
and no, it wouldn't be the top team from each conference... if that were the case, we wouldn't have 2 teams from the SEC playing each other (again!)...
1) Why is there a greater margin of error between deciding who is Number 8 instead of Number 9 as opposed to who is Number 3 instead of Number 2? Love your selective logic.
2) Comparing the NFL to D-1 football is a horrible analogy. SOS variations among NFL teams are miniscule compared to the college game. One thing is for certain........Aaron Rodgers would have played for the Packers last week if THE GAME WASN'T TOTALLY MEANINGLESS. Who wouldn't love to see that shit going down the last week of the college football regular season.
i believe he is conceding that the BCS will have to be involved in whatever Playoff system there is... and that their rankings are the rankings that will be used to determine the 8 teams in the playoffs, whether they do a good job or not...
besides, conceding that they do a good job of ranking the top 8 teams is NOT the same as saying they do a good job of picking the top 2...
there is something called "margin of error" that some people (you!) don't seem to be able to comprehend...
question: would you concede that putting Green Bay and San Francisco in the NFL championship game (without the hassle of a playoff) is a good idea? because that is what we would get if the current BCS system were used in the NFL...
and no, it wouldn't be the top team from each conference... if that were the case, we wouldn't have 2 teams from the SEC playing each other (again!)...
Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:
i believe he is conceding that the BCS will have to be involved in whatever Playoff system there is... and that their rankings are the rankings that will be used to determine the 8 teams in the playoffs, whether they do a good job or not...
besides, conceding that they do a good job of ranking the top 8 teams is NOT the same as saying they do a good job of picking the top 2...
there is something called "margin of error" that some people (you!) don't seem to be able to comprehend...
question: would you concede that putting Green Bay and San Francisco in the NFL championship game (without the hassle of a playoff) is a good idea? because that is what we would get if the current BCS system were used in the NFL...
and no, it wouldn't be the top team from each conference... if that were the case, we wouldn't have 2 teams from the SEC playing each other (again!)...
1) Why is there a greater margin of error between deciding who is Number 8 instead of Number 9 as opposed to who is Number 3 instead of Number 2? Love your selective logic.
2) Comparing the NFL to D-1 football is a horrible analogy. SOS variations among NFL teams are miniscule compared to the college game. One thing is for certain........Aaron Rodgers would have played for the Packers last week if THE GAME WASN'T TOTALLY MEANINGLESS. Who wouldn't love to see that shit going down the last week of the college football regular season.
baylor sucks. and we dont need a playoff this year, cause bama and lsu is by far the 2 best teams in the country. just look at how boring those other bcs games are this year unless you like offense, oregon wiscy 45-38, okie st stanford another ot shootout, none of those teams play defense except bama and lsu
i dont recall falling asleep for so many bcs games as this year, but once nobody tackles nobody it like watching arena football, and i hate arena football. atleast bama vs lsu will be a good game, might only be 1 or 2 tds in it, it gonna be a great game, if you dont like defense go fuck yourself.
baylor would not get more than 1 or 2 td at most on lsu or bama, same shit as west virginia they score 9 tds on offense vs clemson what a joke, those teams suck
baylor sucks. and we dont need a playoff this year, cause bama and lsu is by far the 2 best teams in the country. just look at how boring those other bcs games are this year unless you like offense, oregon wiscy 45-38, okie st stanford another ot shootout, none of those teams play defense except bama and lsu
i dont recall falling asleep for so many bcs games as this year, but once nobody tackles nobody it like watching arena football, and i hate arena football. atleast bama vs lsu will be a good game, might only be 1 or 2 tds in it, it gonna be a great game, if you dont like defense go fuck yourself.
baylor would not get more than 1 or 2 td at most on lsu or bama, same shit as west virginia they score 9 tds on offense vs clemson what a joke, those teams suck
LSU/Wisconsin...ok LSU took out Oregon who is better than Wisconsin....we know what would happen here
Bama/Arkansas....seen the game already...we know what happened
Okla St/Boise St...only quality game of the 4
Stanford/Oregon...again...seen it already why play again
A 4 team playoff is all we need:
LSU/Stanford....Intriguing game
Bama/Oklahoma ST....Intriguing game
are you smokin the crack again? how is that intriguing games? lsu would beat the shit out of stanford, and bama would beat the shit out of okie st. my guess would be
LSU/Wisconsin...ok LSU took out Oregon who is better than Wisconsin....we know what would happen here
Bama/Arkansas....seen the game already...we know what happened
Okla St/Boise St...only quality game of the 4
Stanford/Oregon...again...seen it already why play again
A 4 team playoff is all we need:
LSU/Stanford....Intriguing game
Bama/Oklahoma ST....Intriguing game
are you smokin the crack again? how is that intriguing games? lsu would beat the shit out of stanford, and bama would beat the shit out of okie st. my guess would be
i have a feeling this bama lsu game is gonna be an amazing rematch, i am gonna say bama wins 17-13, get the helmets out the big boys are ready to play. we gonna see tackling this time too, no arena score bullshit.
raise your hand if you feel asleep during okie st stanford and oregon wiscy, i sure did, its like last team to touch the ball wins, cause none of those 4 teams play defense.
defense games are way better than offense. i dont get why people rather watch shootouts than defensive games where its hard to get in the end zone. if you like scoring that much and dont like defense go fuckin watch arena football you jack offs. your just sec haters that all
south carolina could beat okie st or stanford or oregon
i have a feeling this bama lsu game is gonna be an amazing rematch, i am gonna say bama wins 17-13, get the helmets out the big boys are ready to play. we gonna see tackling this time too, no arena score bullshit.
raise your hand if you feel asleep during okie st stanford and oregon wiscy, i sure did, its like last team to touch the ball wins, cause none of those 4 teams play defense.
defense games are way better than offense. i dont get why people rather watch shootouts than defensive games where its hard to get in the end zone. if you like scoring that much and dont like defense go fuckin watch arena football you jack offs. your just sec haters that all
south carolina could beat okie st or stanford or oregon
if you hate the sec now just wait till next year, we might have an alabama vs lsu national title game 2 years in a row. the schedules were announced for next year, it very likely lsu or bama goes 12-0 with the only loss by either school being when they meet each other just like last year
the only team i give any chance besides those 2 to win the title next year, is usc cause they play in the pac 10, and they have some talent and an easy schedule usc could go 12-0 and play the winner of lsu bama. that my guess for 2013 bcs title game
the odds are already out in vegas lsu is favorite at 3.5 to 1 and bama is 2nd favorite at 6 to 1, i believe usc is 6 to 1 as well.
my guess is the loser of this bama lsu game on monday, wins the national title next year. man id love to see alabama vs lsu 2 years in a row in bcs title game, that would be baller. then all the sec haters would really cry waaaa waaaa, learn to play defense. offense is for punks, defense wins titles
if okie st or baylor or stanford, had defense like bama or lsu they wouldd be unstopable. but the best players in america want to go to sec schools it a fact, bama and lsu are way ahead of anyone else. usc could give lsu or bama a game next year but probably still lose by a couple of tds lol. ask any experts
if you hate the sec now just wait till next year, we might have an alabama vs lsu national title game 2 years in a row. the schedules were announced for next year, it very likely lsu or bama goes 12-0 with the only loss by either school being when they meet each other just like last year
the only team i give any chance besides those 2 to win the title next year, is usc cause they play in the pac 10, and they have some talent and an easy schedule usc could go 12-0 and play the winner of lsu bama. that my guess for 2013 bcs title game
the odds are already out in vegas lsu is favorite at 3.5 to 1 and bama is 2nd favorite at 6 to 1, i believe usc is 6 to 1 as well.
my guess is the loser of this bama lsu game on monday, wins the national title next year. man id love to see alabama vs lsu 2 years in a row in bcs title game, that would be baller. then all the sec haters would really cry waaaa waaaa, learn to play defense. offense is for punks, defense wins titles
if okie st or baylor or stanford, had defense like bama or lsu they wouldd be unstopable. but the best players in america want to go to sec schools it a fact, bama and lsu are way ahead of anyone else. usc could give lsu or bama a game next year but probably still lose by a couple of tds lol. ask any experts
Offense is for punks and defense wins titles huh? I guess there is no way the Saints, Packers, or Patriots are winning the SuperBowl this year so I'm going to mark them off my list. Thanks for the insight, could you give so more to help us out.
Offense is for punks and defense wins titles huh? I guess there is no way the Saints, Packers, or Patriots are winning the SuperBowl this year so I'm going to mark them off my list. Thanks for the insight, could you give so more to help us out.
Offense is for punks and defense wins titles huh? I guess there is no way the Saints, Packers, or Patriots are winning the SuperBowl this year so I'm going to mark them off my list. Thanks for the insight, could you give so more to help us out.
what does nfl have to do with college football? i thought we are talking about college football here? who gives a fuck about nfl, they changed the rules in nfl to make it an offensive happy league. they should put a skirt on the qb's in nfl cause if you even touch them its roughing the passer
Offense is for punks and defense wins titles huh? I guess there is no way the Saints, Packers, or Patriots are winning the SuperBowl this year so I'm going to mark them off my list. Thanks for the insight, could you give so more to help us out.
what does nfl have to do with college football? i thought we are talking about college football here? who gives a fuck about nfl, they changed the rules in nfl to make it an offensive happy league. they should put a skirt on the qb's in nfl cause if you even touch them its roughing the passer
if you don't win your conference then you shouldn't be in the playoff
so i guess you think oklahoma st, oregon, and clemson are better than alabama? do you watch football? what did clemson do last night against big bad west virginia lol. i bet wv doesnt even get in the end zone more than 1 time vs lsu or bama
clemson gave up 9 tds last night, ALABAMA HAS GIVEN UP 9 TDS ALL YEAR
if you don't win your conference then you shouldn't be in the playoff
so i guess you think oklahoma st, oregon, and clemson are better than alabama? do you watch football? what did clemson do last night against big bad west virginia lol. i bet wv doesnt even get in the end zone more than 1 time vs lsu or bama
clemson gave up 9 tds last night, ALABAMA HAS GIVEN UP 9 TDS ALL YEAR
Offense is for punks and defense wins titles huh? I guess there is no way the Saints, Packers, or Patriots are winning the SuperBowl this year so I'm going to mark them off my list. Thanks for the insight, could you give so more to help us out.
Offense is for punks and defense wins titles huh? I guess there is no way the Saints, Packers, or Patriots are winning the SuperBowl this year so I'm going to mark them off my list. Thanks for the insight, could you give so more to help us out.
ya there is no way in hell patriots are gonna win super bowl with their shit defense, if they do mine as well change all the rules in nfl to arena football. do you see that defense it is fuckin terrible. i have cincy beating new england in an upset in the divisional playoffs. afc title game cincy vs pitt/baltimore winner.
i dont like any of those afc teams, balty and pitt and denver play defense, but fuck my money on flacco? i dunno i will go with packers to win super bowl like start of year i had them, but this has nothing to do with college football, its a different game different rules.
name me the last college football team to win the bcs title that had a complete shit defense like new england patriots ?
ya there is no way in hell patriots are gonna win super bowl with their shit defense, if they do mine as well change all the rules in nfl to arena football. do you see that defense it is fuckin terrible. i have cincy beating new england in an upset in the divisional playoffs. afc title game cincy vs pitt/baltimore winner.
i dont like any of those afc teams, balty and pitt and denver play defense, but fuck my money on flacco? i dunno i will go with packers to win super bowl like start of year i had them, but this has nothing to do with college football, its a different game different rules.
name me the last college football team to win the bcs title that had a complete shit defense like new england patriots ?
DONT BE SHOCKED IF ALABAMA PLAYS LSU FOR THE 2013 BCS NATIONAL TITLE GAME TOO. DO YOU SEE THEIR SCHEDULES FOR NEXT YEAR? EACH TEAM WILL BE FAVORITE IN ALL 11 GAMES, EXCEPT FOR WHEN THEY PLAY EACH OTHER.
IF TEAMS LOSE LIKE THEY DID THIS YEAR AND NOBODY ELSE IS 12-0 LIKE USC OR ANYONE. YOU BETTER BELIEVE ESPN AND SEC FANS WILL BE ALL OVER A BAMA LSU REMATCH LIKE THIS YEAR. i guess it unlikely to happen 2 years in a row. but what if nobody else goes 12-0 next year? and bama plays lsu close? it not ridiculous to think bama would play lsu again in 2013 bcs title game.
also the sec wanted a playoff long time ago, it was the other conferences that did not want it.
if you dont like the sec you better pray usc or oregon go 12-0 next year, cause they are the next favorites after lsu and bama to win the 2013 bcs title. other than that i cant see anyone from the big 12 or acc or big 10, or big east go unbeaten next year , i have seen the schedules so far, minus some non conf games yet to be made. the acc sucks cock they 2-15 in bcs games, nobody in that conference will run the table, i thought va tech might this year and they blew their load 2 times vs clemson, and we saw last night how bad clemson is.
DONT BE SHOCKED IF ALABAMA PLAYS LSU FOR THE 2013 BCS NATIONAL TITLE GAME TOO. DO YOU SEE THEIR SCHEDULES FOR NEXT YEAR? EACH TEAM WILL BE FAVORITE IN ALL 11 GAMES, EXCEPT FOR WHEN THEY PLAY EACH OTHER.
IF TEAMS LOSE LIKE THEY DID THIS YEAR AND NOBODY ELSE IS 12-0 LIKE USC OR ANYONE. YOU BETTER BELIEVE ESPN AND SEC FANS WILL BE ALL OVER A BAMA LSU REMATCH LIKE THIS YEAR. i guess it unlikely to happen 2 years in a row. but what if nobody else goes 12-0 next year? and bama plays lsu close? it not ridiculous to think bama would play lsu again in 2013 bcs title game.
also the sec wanted a playoff long time ago, it was the other conferences that did not want it.
if you dont like the sec you better pray usc or oregon go 12-0 next year, cause they are the next favorites after lsu and bama to win the 2013 bcs title. other than that i cant see anyone from the big 12 or acc or big 10, or big east go unbeaten next year , i have seen the schedules so far, minus some non conf games yet to be made. the acc sucks cock they 2-15 in bcs games, nobody in that conference will run the table, i thought va tech might this year and they blew their load 2 times vs clemson, and we saw last night how bad clemson is.
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