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    Joe Paterno

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    thisguyiswise
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2012 - 12:36 PM ET #1

    As a Penn State alumnus and life long Penn State fan, student etc this day is not awful.  The awful days took place when the children were molested, countless day, by Jerry Sandusky.

    Unfortunately, it has now come to fruition that Joe Paterno along with three other people who call themselves "men", were negligent to say the least in doing all they could to protect the kids, the university, fans, alumni and other faculty members from this disgusting act.

    I will be the first one, to a man, as a man, to say I was wrong.  I was fooled by Joe Paterno that he was a better man than who he was.  While he did many great things for many great people, the few lives he ruined by not doing more in this when he had more knowledge than any of us knew at the end of the day disgusts me deeply.

    While the heroes in my life are only people I know, love, or care about, Paterno to many in Penn State was an iconic figure that we could say to others is someone who could lead by example with the best of them.  All things don't have to be what they seem.

    I will say this once more, I was wrong about the guy, fooled and deceived much like many were of Jerry Sandusky.

    While Joe Paterno played a small part in a mass travesty, his part nonetheless or lack of part lead disgusting acts to continue.

    For those that assumed this all along, go cash your ticket at the window if you feel better.  This is not a good thing for society though.

    The best thing that will come out of all of this as we are a hundred times more aware today than we were 9 months ago about how to handle these situations and victims now can feel they have a voice that will be heard.

    I have faith my great university will continue to acknowledge and make right of this situation as best we can with our great student body and move on to a new era.

    Joe Paterno died because of cancer, but he lost his fight because he knew this was coming.  Shame on him!

    To all of WeAre Nation, its on us to make what a few bad men did wrong, so right.


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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    As a Penn State alumnus and life long Penn State fan, student etc this day is not awful.  The awful days took place when the children were molested, countless day, by Jerry Sandusky.

    Unfortunately, it has now come to fruition that Joe Paterno along with three other people who call themselves "men", were negligent to say the least in doing all they could to protect the kids, the university, fans, alumni and other faculty members from this disgusting act.

    I will be the first one, to a man, as a man, to say I was wrong.  I was fooled by Joe Paterno that he was a better man than who he was.  While he did many great things for many great people, the few lives he ruined by not doing more in this when he had more knowledge than any of us knew at the end of the day disgusts me deeply.

    While the heroes in my life are only people I know, love, or care about, Paterno to many in Penn State was an iconic figure that we could say to others is someone who could lead by example with the best of them.  All things don't have to be what they seem.

    I will say this once more, I was wrong about the guy, fooled and deceived much like many were of Jerry Sandusky.

    While Joe Paterno played a small part in a mass travesty, his part nonetheless or lack of part lead disgusting acts to continue.

    For those that assumed this all along, go cash your ticket at the window if you feel better.  This is not a good thing for society though.

    The best thing that will come out of all of this as we are a hundred times more aware today than we were 9 months ago about how to handle these situations and victims now can feel they have a voice that will be heard.

    I have faith my great university will continue to acknowledge and make right of this situation as best we can with our great student body and move on to a new era.

    Joe Paterno died because of cancer, but he lost his fight because he knew this was coming.  Shame on him!

    To all of WeAre Nation, its on us to make what a few bad men did wrong, so right.


     
    txtechpika
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2012 - 12:40 PM ET #2

    Will they remove his statute and do away with the Peachy Paterno ice cream?  If this had happened at Texas Tech I would cease with my donations to the program immediately.  They wouldn't see another dime from me until that cowards statute and name on the library had been removed.  Can't imagine being a Penn State alum and die hard but I bet it's really difficult.  Paterno deserves to go to hell for what he did or didn't do.  Sickening.
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    Will they remove his statute and do away with the Peachy Paterno ice cream?  If this had happened at Texas Tech I would cease with my donations to the program immediately.  They wouldn't see another dime from me until that cowards statute and name on the library had been removed.  Can't imagine being a Penn State alum and die hard but I bet it's really difficult.  Paterno deserves to go to hell for what he did or didn't do.  Sickening.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2012 - 12:53 PM ET #3

    thisguyiswise;
              You think the NCAA football association should remove his football records or at least place an asterisk on his wins/lost?  i understand that in football, he didn't do anything wrong but what he did to go achieve it was just sickening.  He showed no integrity in his pursuit to be the most winning'est' coach. 
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    thisguyiswise;
              You think the NCAA football association should remove his football records or at least place an asterisk on his wins/lost?  i understand that in football, he didn't do anything wrong but what he did to go achieve it was just sickening.  He showed no integrity in his pursuit to be the most winning'est' coach. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2012 - 12:57 PM ET #4

    Im with you ... Im deeply disgusted with Joe Paterno ... but still and will always support Penn State as a University ... The mistake, huge mistake of a few handful doesnt represent Penn State Community at large!  We will move forward to do what can be done to make things better.  I am proud of them for hiring the independent investigator and releasing their finds even if for most people a bit to late.
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    Im with you ... Im deeply disgusted with Joe Paterno ... but still and will always support Penn State as a University ... The mistake, huge mistake of a few handful doesnt represent Penn State Community at large!  We will move forward to do what can be done to make things better.  I am proud of them for hiring the independent investigator and releasing their finds even if for most people a bit to late.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2012 - 12:59 PM ET #5

    Paterno will forever have an asterisk next to his name even if it doesnt get officially put there.
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    Paterno will forever have an asterisk next to his name even if it doesnt get officially put there.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2012 - 1:06 PM ET #6

    THISGUYISWISE, what a way to recognize that you were fooled by the PATERNO movement, thanks for keeping it real. Being from PA myself and having family members who attended PENN ST, IMO things were always kind of shady up there in HAPPY VALLEY. Maybe it was the city in me, or maybe the people in upper state PA live by different codes. One code that should be universal is to protect children by any means necessary, like I said in the other thread FCK JOE PA, FCK SANDUSKY, FCK MQUEARY, and whoever else that did not step up to plate to do what a real man was suppose to do, put SANDUSKY down permantely. This whole PENN ST scandal is a tradegy, whats crazy is if this were animals being attacked or something, PETA or any of those animal rights group would have been all over it, its ashame that we put human life, childrens life and welfare behind animals, thats crazy.
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    THISGUYISWISE, what a way to recognize that you were fooled by the PATERNO movement, thanks for keeping it real. Being from PA myself and having family members who attended PENN ST, IMO things were always kind of shady up there in HAPPY VALLEY. Maybe it was the city in me, or maybe the people in upper state PA live by different codes. One code that should be universal is to protect children by any means necessary, like I said in the other thread FCK JOE PA, FCK SANDUSKY, FCK MQUEARY, and whoever else that did not step up to plate to do what a real man was suppose to do, put SANDUSKY down permantely. This whole PENN ST scandal is a tradegy, whats crazy is if this were animals being attacked or something, PETA or any of those animal rights group would have been all over it, its ashame that we put human life, childrens life and welfare behind animals, thats crazy.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2012 - 1:11 PM ET #7

    stop wasting time with this CRAP.....
    let's talk FOOTBALL......and win some cash

    OR....since so many here are EAGLE SCOUTS....spend this time making your own community a better place to live
    It is better to be feared - than to be loved.
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    stop wasting time with this CRAP.....
    let's talk FOOTBALL......and win some cash

    OR....since so many here are EAGLE SCOUTS....spend this time making your own community a better place to live
     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2012 - 1:27 PM ET #8

    Awesome post

    wise- class act 

    paterno- class clown
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    Awesome post

    wise- class act 

    paterno- class clown
     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2012 - 1:35 PM ET #9

    Actually, I like this thread. As for "talking about this crap, let's talk football"...this is far more important than a damn game. This has ruined people's lives! The sad part...this sick shit goes on in many places, not just Penn St.

    This is a football forum but this isn't a "crap" issue. I respect the OP that started this thread.
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    Actually, I like this thread. As for "talking about this crap, let's talk football"...this is far more important than a damn game. This has ruined people's lives! The sad part...this sick shit goes on in many places, not just Penn St.

    This is a football forum but this isn't a "crap" issue. I respect the OP that started this thread.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2012 - 1:57 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by Teaser78:

    Im with you ... Im deeply disgusted with Joe Paterno ... but still and will always support Penn State as a University ... The mistake, huge mistake of a few handful doesnt represent Penn State Community at large!  We will move forward to do what can be done to make things better.  I am proud of them for hiring the independent investigator and releasing their finds even if for most people a bit to late.

    Covering up for a rapist for more than a decade, is not a mistake.  Locking your keys in the car is a mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teaser78:

    Im with you ... Im deeply disgusted with Joe Paterno ... but still and will always support Penn State as a University ... The mistake, huge mistake of a few handful doesnt represent Penn State Community at large!  We will move forward to do what can be done to make things better.  I am proud of them for hiring the independent investigator and releasing their finds even if for most people a bit to late.

    Covering up for a rapist for more than a decade, is not a mistake.  Locking your keys in the car is a mistake.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2012 - 1:59 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:

    stop wasting time with this CRAP.....
    let's talk FOOTBALL......and win some cash

    OR....since so many here are EAGLE SCOUTS....spend this time making your own community a better place to live

    I have never raped anybody, nor have I ever looked the other way, in order to protect a rapist.  By definition, I have made my community better than those monsters at Penn State.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:

    stop wasting time with this CRAP.....
    let's talk FOOTBALL......and win some cash

    OR....since so many here are EAGLE SCOUTS....spend this time making your own community a better place to live

    I have never raped anybody, nor have I ever looked the other way, in order to protect a rapist.  By definition, I have made my community better than those monsters at Penn State.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2012 - 2:45 PM ET #12

    Really dont think its my place to say what be done with his awards and such, how do you go back over so many years, i mean where do you begin, i doubt the ncaa will not

    Statue---take it down

    Record Book- i dont care about his records means nothing to me and honestly never did, he never won any of those games anyway, the players did.

    Should have seen the signs when new coach O'Brien barely even would mention Paterno unless asked and even that was a stretch, BOB knew more than we did as he should.

    Penn State will be a better place now all around, including football,  

    Everything happens for a reason, sometimes we dont know right away what that reason is, but for the victims sake, i hope its peace of mind at the least and for other victims or future victims of this disgusting act, its they have a platform and confidence they never had before.

    The board of trustees who were there during this time also need to be removed TODAY, there were a bunch of old hags from then who are still on it that need to go asap.

    When in doubt fire them all and start over because the BOT is to blame in this as well.
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    Really dont think its my place to say what be done with his awards and such, how do you go back over so many years, i mean where do you begin, i doubt the ncaa will not

    Statue---take it down

    Record Book- i dont care about his records means nothing to me and honestly never did, he never won any of those games anyway, the players did.

    Should have seen the signs when new coach O'Brien barely even would mention Paterno unless asked and even that was a stretch, BOB knew more than we did as he should.

    Penn State will be a better place now all around, including football,  

    Everything happens for a reason, sometimes we dont know right away what that reason is, but for the victims sake, i hope its peace of mind at the least and for other victims or future victims of this disgusting act, its they have a platform and confidence they never had before.

    The board of trustees who were there during this time also need to be removed TODAY, there were a bunch of old hags from then who are still on it that need to go asap.

    When in doubt fire them all and start over because the BOT is to blame in this as well.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2012 - 2:55 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by Chus:


    I have never raped anybody, nor have I ever looked the other way, in order to protect a rapist.  By definition, I have made my community better than those monsters at Penn State.


    shit son......you're a true credit to your race......
    It is better to be feared - than to be loved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chus:


    I have never raped anybody, nor have I ever looked the other way, in order to protect a rapist.  By definition, I have made my community better than those monsters at Penn State.


    shit son......you're a true credit to your race......
     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2012 - 6:56 PM ET #14

    thisguyiswise-

    Classy post- Must be hard to see something like this happen. I won't be posting any more about this situation. But again, props to you for admitting you were wrong. Also, the others involved in this scandal must pay for what they allowed to happen. 
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    thisguyiswise-

    Classy post- Must be hard to see something like this happen. I won't be posting any more about this situation. But again, props to you for admitting you were wrong. Also, the others involved in this scandal must pay for what they allowed to happen. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2012 - 8:00 PM ET #15

    I just find it hard to believe that anyone is surprised by the way things work in this world or how anything could catch you off guard. Every person is a human and most of them are the most selfish creatures you can be on this planet. Life has a lot of bullshit because of human nature, I still have respect for Joe Paterno and you can take that how you want.
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    I just find it hard to believe that anyone is surprised by the way things work in this world or how anything could catch you off guard. Every person is a human and most of them are the most selfish creatures you can be on this planet. Life has a lot of bullshit because of human nature, I still have respect for Joe Paterno and you can take that how you want.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2012 - 8:06 PM ET #16

    Human nature is/has gotten scary. I had a ton of respect for Joe Pa. However, when you honestly turn your back on child molestation you aren't worth pissing on! Keep in mind, this isn't anything close to typical subjects with athletic programs, i.e. paying players, dui's, steroids, etc...!

    I am assuming with much confidence that you do not have kids either!!

    He got off the hook by his death by illness. Well, he got off the "earthly" hook. He will still answer to a higher power for his actions.
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    Human nature is/has gotten scary. I had a ton of respect for Joe Pa. However, when you honestly turn your back on child molestation you aren't worth pissing on! Keep in mind, this isn't anything close to typical subjects with athletic programs, i.e. paying players, dui's, steroids, etc...!

    I am assuming with much confidence that you do not have kids either!!

    He got off the hook by his death by illness. Well, he got off the "earthly" hook. He will still answer to a higher power for his actions.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2012 - 8:16 PM ET #17

    Nothing he did was right or condoned but Im not foolish enough to think Humans are not humans that sin in the end like apparently everyone else was at PSU.. No one is above being a sinner
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    Nothing he did was right or condoned but Im not foolish enough to think Humans are not humans that sin in the end like apparently everyone else was at PSU.. No one is above being a sinner
     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2012 - 8:20 PM ET #18

    Agreed...but the fact you can still have 1 ounce of respect for a "man" who overlooked and lied about something this serious?? I'm going to drop it. It will all be taken care of. My one hope is the victims are living a healthy and happy life.
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    Agreed...but the fact you can still have 1 ounce of respect for a "man" who overlooked and lied about something this serious?? I'm going to drop it. It will all be taken care of. My one hope is the victims are living a healthy and happy life.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2012 - 8:38 PM ET #19

    There are many worse people out there in this world that I have no respect for. He knows what he did was wrong and it had a lot to do with him dying, I really think it did.
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    There are many worse people out there in this world that I have no respect for. He knows what he did was wrong and it had a lot to do with him dying, I really think it did.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2012 - 8:41 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:

    I just find it hard to believe that anyone is surprised by the way things work in this world or how anything could catch you off guard. Every person is a human and most of them are the most selfish creatures you can be on this planet. Life has a lot of bullshit because of human nature, I still have respect for Joe Paterno and you can take that how you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:

    I just find it hard to believe that anyone is surprised by the way things work in this world or how anything could catch you off guard. Every person is a human and most of them are the most selfish creatures you can be on this planet. Life has a lot of bullshit because of human nature, I still have respect for Joe Paterno and you can take that how you want.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2012 - 8:46 PM ET #21

    As for worse things/people, I can only think of very very very very few worse things than sexually raping/molesting a child. You need to check your morals at the door...quickly!!
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    As for worse things/people, I can only think of very very very very few worse things than sexually raping/molesting a child. You need to check your morals at the door...quickly!!
     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2012 - 8:49 PM ET #22

    No, everyone needs to quit acting like they are on a pedestal above him and believing what they are told without even keeping an open mind. Im not saying be stupid and dismiss what you hear but if you are going to be intellectual in this world you have to be open about anything you hear and gather your own opinion, not instantly believe everything you hear in news. News itself was made to blind the masses and is full of nothing but propaganda. 
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    No, everyone needs to quit acting like they are on a pedestal above him and believing what they are told without even keeping an open mind. Im not saying be stupid and dismiss what you hear but if you are going to be intellectual in this world you have to be open about anything you hear and gather your own opinion, not instantly believe everything you hear in news. News itself was made to blind the masses and is full of nothing but propaganda. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2012 - 9:50 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:

    No, everyone needs to quit acting like they are on a pedestal above him and believing what they are told without even keeping an open mind. Im not saying be stupid and dismiss what you hear but if you are going to be intellectual in this world you have to be open about anything you hear and gather your own opinion, not instantly believe everything you hear in news. News itself was made to blind the masses and is full of nothing but propaganda. 

    Keep an open mind?  Who the fuck are you kidding here.  Sometimes it simply is what it is.

    If you have a dick in your mouth for Joe Pa or PSU for making your comments, I strongly suggest you take a long look in the mirror.  This topic is not even polarizing.  The evidence is more than out, it's not going to get any better over time.

    PSU is scarred for decades.  Joe Pa's reputation is crushed - period.  Sandusky is not even worthy to make it into the general population of any maximum security prison.  THE END

    Keep an open mind???  WOW
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:

    No, everyone needs to quit acting like they are on a pedestal above him and believing what they are told without even keeping an open mind. Im not saying be stupid and dismiss what you hear but if you are going to be intellectual in this world you have to be open about anything you hear and gather your own opinion, not instantly believe everything you hear in news. News itself was made to blind the masses and is full of nothing but propaganda. 

    Keep an open mind?  Who the fuck are you kidding here.  Sometimes it simply is what it is.

    If you have a dick in your mouth for Joe Pa or PSU for making your comments, I strongly suggest you take a long look in the mirror.  This topic is not even polarizing.  The evidence is more than out, it's not going to get any better over time.

    PSU is scarred for decades.  Joe Pa's reputation is crushed - period.  Sandusky is not even worthy to make it into the general population of any maximum security prison.  THE END

    Keep an open mind???  WOW
     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2012 - 10:07 PM ET #24

    Please stop making yourselves look as stupid as you are with your comments, Im not talking about this topic alone Im talking about everything. No one here has ever even met the people they judge and will believe anything they hear right away. That's the American way, trust everything you are told. If everyone is so upset about what happened at PSU it would be great to see some of that fire to get up and do something about other things because talking about dicks in mouths, if you think this PSU thing is bad then you have no idea how bad your own government has been fucking the US citizens in the ass for decades with the shady shit they do.
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    Please stop making yourselves look as stupid as you are with your comments, Im not talking about this topic alone Im talking about everything. No one here has ever even met the people they judge and will believe anything they hear right away. That's the American way, trust everything you are told. If everyone is so upset about what happened at PSU it would be great to see some of that fire to get up and do something about other things because talking about dicks in mouths, if you think this PSU thing is bad then you have no idea how bad your own government has been fucking the US citizens in the ass for decades with the shady shit they do.
     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2012 - 10:11 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:

    Please stop making yourselves look as stupid as you are with your comments, Im not talking about this topic alone Im talking about everything. No one here has ever even met the people they judge and will believe anything they hear right away. That's the American way, trust everything you are told. If everyone is so upset about what happened at PSU it would be great to see some of that fire to get up and do something about other things because talking about dicks in mouths, if you think this PSU thing is bad then you have no idea how bad your own government has been fucking the US citizens in the ass for decades with the shady shit they do.

    You sir are deflecting the issue... I think you totally miss the point.  I direct you to your bathroom mirror.

    After that, I suggest you look at my post I just made... I just stated that 99% of the PSU faithful are decent people that know this is sickening.  You sir seem to be the 1% that insist on defending.  Shame on you
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:

    Please stop making yourselves look as stupid as you are with your comments, Im not talking about this topic alone Im talking about everything. No one here has ever even met the people they judge and will believe anything they hear right away. That's the American way, trust everything you are told. If everyone is so upset about what happened at PSU it would be great to see some of that fire to get up and do something about other things because talking about dicks in mouths, if you think this PSU thing is bad then you have no idea how bad your own government has been fucking the US citizens in the ass for decades with the shady shit they do.

    You sir are deflecting the issue... I think you totally miss the point.  I direct you to your bathroom mirror.

    After that, I suggest you look at my post I just made... I just stated that 99% of the PSU faithful are decent people that know this is sickening.  You sir seem to be the 1% that insist on defending.  Shame on you
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