Another thing nobody talks about re: the Razorbacks except diehard fans of the team who know: the Hogs' run game. Now I can hear the chorus already yelling "What run game?" and judging simply from the stats or just the UGA game, you would be correct to ask that. But, just as was correctly stated before in this thread about Bama not seeking specifically in their defensive strategy to record lots of "SACKS" per se (it's a nice bene, but is not the goal), and instead seeks to disrupt the opposing QB to reduce his effectiveness and/or force mistakes -- so too are Arkansas' similarly deceptive objectives with respect to their running attack.
The Hogs don't specifically seek to have 100 yd per game rushers from their tailbacks - it's a nice bene if they get that, but it isn't the goal. The GOAL is to demand sufficient respect and resources from the opposing defenses to allow enough open field for Mallet & receivers to work their magic & to mitigate against a tendency to over-blitz the QB....this is why opposing teams CAN'T be and thus far have not been overly aggressive blitzing Mallett this year.
Defenses that do not devote sufficient respect/resources to Arkansas' rushing attack make no mistake will pay a price: Ronnie Wingo, Broderick Green, and Kniles Davis absolutely can and will gash any opposing DI defenses if teams' load up too much w/ blitz packages to get to Mallett & otherwise do not play honest, assignment football on the run game.
Look for Petrino to scheme plenty of delayed draws, middle screens, slant patterns or releases to backs in the flat, in addition to design plays to DJ Williams (the best TE in the SEC if not the country) to guard against this very thing. If Bama can pressure Mallet consistently w/ their down 4, they win: pure and simple, and it won't be that close. But if not, in Fayetteville - this is a game. There will be quite a chess match in the first half along these lines - look for it.
GWJTF
I'm pretty sure ULMonroe out rushed Arkansas!
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Quote Originally Posted by gwjtf:
Another thing nobody talks about re: the Razorbacks except diehard fans of the team who know: the Hogs' run game. Now I can hear the chorus already yelling "What run game?" and judging simply from the stats or just the UGA game, you would be correct to ask that. But, just as was correctly stated before in this thread about Bama not seeking specifically in their defensive strategy to record lots of "SACKS" per se (it's a nice bene, but is not the goal), and instead seeks to disrupt the opposing QB to reduce his effectiveness and/or force mistakes -- so too are Arkansas' similarly deceptive objectives with respect to their running attack.
The Hogs don't specifically seek to have 100 yd per game rushers from their tailbacks - it's a nice bene if they get that, but it isn't the goal. The GOAL is to demand sufficient respect and resources from the opposing defenses to allow enough open field for Mallet & receivers to work their magic & to mitigate against a tendency to over-blitz the QB....this is why opposing teams CAN'T be and thus far have not been overly aggressive blitzing Mallett this year.
Defenses that do not devote sufficient respect/resources to Arkansas' rushing attack make no mistake will pay a price: Ronnie Wingo, Broderick Green, and Kniles Davis absolutely can and will gash any opposing DI defenses if teams' load up too much w/ blitz packages to get to Mallett & otherwise do not play honest, assignment football on the run game.
Look for Petrino to scheme plenty of delayed draws, middle screens, slant patterns or releases to backs in the flat, in addition to design plays to DJ Williams (the best TE in the SEC if not the country) to guard against this very thing. If Bama can pressure Mallet consistently w/ their down 4, they win: pure and simple, and it won't be that close. But if not, in Fayetteville - this is a game. There will be quite a chess match in the first half along these lines - look for it.
Alabama hasn't faced a real opponent at all, their best opponent was lowly PSU and they beat Kent State 24-0? thats real bad
I know Bama is good but this is their first test, in conference game, and on the road against the best offense in the SEC by far.
The best offense: Bama- Passing 17th overall Rushing- 13th overall Points for 9th overall Arkansas- Passing 3rd overall Rushing 98th overall Points for 26th overall. You shut down the pass and Arkansas has nothing to offer. You go up on Arkansas you force them to pass and most likely will create interceptions which sparked the ass whooping they put on Arkansas two years ago in Fayetteville.
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Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:
Alabama hasn't faced a real opponent at all, their best opponent was lowly PSU and they beat Kent State 24-0? thats real bad
I know Bama is good but this is their first test, in conference game, and on the road against the best offense in the SEC by far.
The best offense: Bama- Passing 17th overall Rushing- 13th overall Points for 9th overall Arkansas- Passing 3rd overall Rushing 98th overall Points for 26th overall. You shut down the pass and Arkansas has nothing to offer. You go up on Arkansas you force them to pass and most likely will create interceptions which sparked the ass whooping they put on Arkansas two years ago in Fayetteville.
Jesus Christ at some of the logic in this thread, so if Arkansas gets down it will force them to do what they already do and what they specialize in? OH KNOW, they are finished!!
Really guys, its starting to get ridiculous from some people.
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Jesus Christ at some of the logic in this thread, so if Arkansas gets down it will force them to do what they already do and what they specialize in? OH KNOW, they are finished!!
Really guys, its starting to get ridiculous from some people.
All you did was point out Bamas positives and Arkansas negatives, it doesnt get any more cherry picking than that. Im not going to get into a arguing match with you because your an Alabama homer and I will obviously always be wrong right? Alabama probably wins this game, but they will not destroy Arkansas. You better watch some game film before you make such claims that Arkansas does 5-7 step drops all the time. They dont, Mallet is in shot gun close to 70% of the time. They throw more screens, they will be able to run the ball (Duke averaged 4.1 ypc). You want to talk about playmakers? Well Arkansas has 5 WR that will give Bamas young secondary fits. Not to mention the best full back/TE hybrid in the nation who will lead the way blocking and sneaking out into the flats against that "vaunted" Bama pass rush. Everyone talks about Bamas defense and "Donta Hightower", well Arkansas Jerry Franklin is just as good if not better. Points is "your" offensive play makers Ingram, Richardson and Jones are very equal to that of Arkansas. The only difference being "your" on the road. And The opponent your playing has the most talented QB in the nation leading his stable of playmakers. Where you have a QB trying not to lose the game, Mallet will be trying to win. And with the weapons being equal, id say Mallets difference and homefield advantage gives this edge to the Razorbacks. And remember, Petrino is just an offensive master mind and Saban is defensively so that matchup is a wash. What this game comes down to is Arkansas under rated defense, verse Alabamas offense. Razorback stadium will be rocking and give Bamas offense fits at the LOS (where McElroy likes to do a lot of checking for hot routes and pass protection). The crowd will cancel this out. So "your" defense better be as good as you "think" it is. Because if not, Arkansas will score on you. "Your" pass rush means nothing if the ball is out of Mallets hands quickly. Arkansas spreads you out and gets rid of the ball on point, just like the Saints offense. They are very comparable. And your secondary isnt deep enough to contain this for four quarters. Thinking you hold Arkansas in 11-19 pt range is crazy. Arkansas averaged 40 ppg last season against SEC opponents. Home field is everything in college football.
Just remember I'm the homer who has put people on the right side of Bama games at about a 95% clip over the last 7 years on this board. Maybe, just maybe I know what I'm talking about.
I've had similar Bama discussions like this one probably about 10-12 others times when Bama has been a "Max Bet" game for me. In everyone of those threads invaribly someone tries to justify their play by accusing me of being a "homer" (usually by some newbie who was broke before the Monday Night Football game of the week rolled around). In 100% of those cases I have been right. I have been right in the past, and I will be right again on this game. And I will not only be right about my prediction that Bama will cover the spread, I will be right about my prediction that Bama will win this game by a minimum of 3 TDs. So my question is, if I'm right, does it really matter if I'm a homer?
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Quote Originally Posted by CoachE:
All you did was point out Bamas positives and Arkansas negatives, it doesnt get any more cherry picking than that. Im not going to get into a arguing match with you because your an Alabama homer and I will obviously always be wrong right? Alabama probably wins this game, but they will not destroy Arkansas. You better watch some game film before you make such claims that Arkansas does 5-7 step drops all the time. They dont, Mallet is in shot gun close to 70% of the time. They throw more screens, they will be able to run the ball (Duke averaged 4.1 ypc). You want to talk about playmakers? Well Arkansas has 5 WR that will give Bamas young secondary fits. Not to mention the best full back/TE hybrid in the nation who will lead the way blocking and sneaking out into the flats against that "vaunted" Bama pass rush. Everyone talks about Bamas defense and "Donta Hightower", well Arkansas Jerry Franklin is just as good if not better. Points is "your" offensive play makers Ingram, Richardson and Jones are very equal to that of Arkansas. The only difference being "your" on the road. And The opponent your playing has the most talented QB in the nation leading his stable of playmakers. Where you have a QB trying not to lose the game, Mallet will be trying to win. And with the weapons being equal, id say Mallets difference and homefield advantage gives this edge to the Razorbacks. And remember, Petrino is just an offensive master mind and Saban is defensively so that matchup is a wash. What this game comes down to is Arkansas under rated defense, verse Alabamas offense. Razorback stadium will be rocking and give Bamas offense fits at the LOS (where McElroy likes to do a lot of checking for hot routes and pass protection). The crowd will cancel this out. So "your" defense better be as good as you "think" it is. Because if not, Arkansas will score on you. "Your" pass rush means nothing if the ball is out of Mallets hands quickly. Arkansas spreads you out and gets rid of the ball on point, just like the Saints offense. They are very comparable. And your secondary isnt deep enough to contain this for four quarters. Thinking you hold Arkansas in 11-19 pt range is crazy. Arkansas averaged 40 ppg last season against SEC opponents. Home field is everything in college football.
Just remember I'm the homer who has put people on the right side of Bama games at about a 95% clip over the last 7 years on this board. Maybe, just maybe I know what I'm talking about.
I've had similar Bama discussions like this one probably about 10-12 others times when Bama has been a "Max Bet" game for me. In everyone of those threads invaribly someone tries to justify their play by accusing me of being a "homer" (usually by some newbie who was broke before the Monday Night Football game of the week rolled around). In 100% of those cases I have been right. I have been right in the past, and I will be right again on this game. And I will not only be right about my prediction that Bama will cover the spread, I will be right about my prediction that Bama will win this game by a minimum of 3 TDs. So my question is, if I'm right, does it really matter if I'm a homer?
You should also know that Bama didnt solely face 3 step drops in their previous games to get that sick sack total. They faced plenty of 5 and 7 steps - still no sacks.
Figured I would bring that up....
I've watched all the games multiple times.
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Quote Originally Posted by RJSizzle:
You should also know that Bama didnt solely face 3 step drops in their previous games to get that sick sack total. They faced plenty of 5 and 7 steps - still no sacks.
Just remember I'm the homer who has put people on the right side of Bama games at about a 95% clip over the last 7 years on this board. Maybe, just maybe I know what I'm talking about.
I've had similar Bama discussions like this one probably about 10-12 others times when Bama has been a "Max Bet" game for me. In everyone of those threads invaribly someone tries to justify their play by accusing me of being a "homer" (usually by some newbie who was broke before the Monday Night Football game of the week rolled around). In 100% of those cases I have been right. I have been right in the past, and I will be right again on this game. And I will not only be right about my prediction that Bama will cover the spread, I will be right about my prediction that Bama will win this game by a minimum of 3 TDs. So my question is, if I'm right, does it really matter if I'm a homer?
I dig the confidence Jimmy.. Arkansas is going to have an Arizona like start last week to stay in this game..Bama should pull away late by 2 scores
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Quote Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:
Just remember I'm the homer who has put people on the right side of Bama games at about a 95% clip over the last 7 years on this board. Maybe, just maybe I know what I'm talking about.
I've had similar Bama discussions like this one probably about 10-12 others times when Bama has been a "Max Bet" game for me. In everyone of those threads invaribly someone tries to justify their play by accusing me of being a "homer" (usually by some newbie who was broke before the Monday Night Football game of the week rolled around). In 100% of those cases I have been right. I have been right in the past, and I will be right again on this game. And I will not only be right about my prediction that Bama will cover the spread, I will be right about my prediction that Bama will win this game by a minimum of 3 TDs. So my question is, if I'm right, does it really matter if I'm a homer?
I dig the confidence Jimmy.. Arkansas is going to have an Arizona like start last week to stay in this game..Bama should pull away late by 2 scores
Just remember I'm the homer who has put people on the right side of Bama games at about a 95% clip over the last 7 years on this board. Maybe, just maybe I know what I'm talking about.
I've had similar Bama discussions like this one probably about 10-12 others times when Bama has been a "Max Bet" game for me. In everyone of those threads invaribly someone tries to justify their play by accusing me of being a "homer" (usually by some newbie who was broke before the Monday Night Football game of the week rolled around). In 100% of those cases I have been right. I have been right in the past, and I will be right again on this game. And I will not only be right about my prediction that Bama will cover the spread, I will be right about my prediction that Bama will win this game by a minimum of 3 TDs. So my question is, if I'm right, does it really matter if I'm a homer?
Only difference is I havent made a play. Just giving a very strong argument for Arkansas. Its probably a no play for me, games this tight generally are a coin flip so there is no point in playing. I just see all the insane love for Bama and dont get it. And your statement that Bama will win by three touchdowns is insane. You say you watch all of Bamas games and that you know the SEC? Well then you would know that Bama hasnt won against a ranked team out on the road in a long, long time. Much less a top ten team. Much less blown them out by three touchdowns. In fact, (I dont feel like looking it up) but I would be willing to bet that no SEC team has blown out another top ten ranked SEC team on the road in a long, long time. Just doesnt happen in the SEC. You should know that
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Quote Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:
Just remember I'm the homer who has put people on the right side of Bama games at about a 95% clip over the last 7 years on this board. Maybe, just maybe I know what I'm talking about.
I've had similar Bama discussions like this one probably about 10-12 others times when Bama has been a "Max Bet" game for me. In everyone of those threads invaribly someone tries to justify their play by accusing me of being a "homer" (usually by some newbie who was broke before the Monday Night Football game of the week rolled around). In 100% of those cases I have been right. I have been right in the past, and I will be right again on this game. And I will not only be right about my prediction that Bama will cover the spread, I will be right about my prediction that Bama will win this game by a minimum of 3 TDs. So my question is, if I'm right, does it really matter if I'm a homer?
Only difference is I havent made a play. Just giving a very strong argument for Arkansas. Its probably a no play for me, games this tight generally are a coin flip so there is no point in playing. I just see all the insane love for Bama and dont get it. And your statement that Bama will win by three touchdowns is insane. You say you watch all of Bamas games and that you know the SEC? Well then you would know that Bama hasnt won against a ranked team out on the road in a long, long time. Much less a top ten team. Much less blown them out by three touchdowns. In fact, (I dont feel like looking it up) but I would be willing to bet that no SEC team has blown out another top ten ranked SEC team on the road in a long, long time. Just doesnt happen in the SEC. You should know that
Well UL Monroe knows all about scheming for Alabama..
That doesn't make sense or you are missing my point. The post I quoted was gwjtf talking about not under estimating the Arkansas running game. UL out rushed Arkansas so I was wondering how they expected to run the ball better against Alabama! I don't care one way or the other, but make an arguement that makes sense. If you think Arkansas is a good bet, take it. There obviously is some emotion need by some hear to coerce people into picking against the best team in college football. I simply don't think it's going to happen. Bet who you want, but man up back here when/if it deosn't go your way. I lose lots of bets. That's why I don't grand stand and quote locks on here. No one knows for sure until the game is played. But there are better plays on the board than hoping Arkansas covers. That was really the point!
GL
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Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:
Well UL Monroe knows all about scheming for Alabama..
That doesn't make sense or you are missing my point. The post I quoted was gwjtf talking about not under estimating the Arkansas running game. UL out rushed Arkansas so I was wondering how they expected to run the ball better against Alabama! I don't care one way or the other, but make an arguement that makes sense. If you think Arkansas is a good bet, take it. There obviously is some emotion need by some hear to coerce people into picking against the best team in college football. I simply don't think it's going to happen. Bet who you want, but man up back here when/if it deosn't go your way. I lose lots of bets. That's why I don't grand stand and quote locks on here. No one knows for sure until the game is played. But there are better plays on the board than hoping Arkansas covers. That was really the point!
Before the season started I didn't think there would be many good opportunites to bet Bama because, coming off a national championship season, I thought Vegas would suck the life out of almost every one of their lines. At this point I couldn't have been more wrong about that.
So far the lines have pretty much been gimmes. I thought the SJST line was very sharp when it was sitting at 40, and I was going to lay off. But when it dropped to the magical 37.5 I was all over it. The Penn State and Duke lines were both gimmes as is the Arky line. I would set the Arky line at -16.5 (I was expecting -10). I'm not complaining. I just hope Vegas keeps up the good work.
South Carolina sets up for a classic fade opportunity for many reasons. First, let's assume arguendo that Bama beats Arky and Florida (which I think they will do). After a very emotional win over the Gators at home, Bama will have to travel to Columbia in classic let down spot to face a very confident South Carolina team that will have had 2 weeks to prepare for them. USCe will be very confident IMO because they played the Tide very tough in Bryant-Denny last season (and because I think they'll be coming off of a big conference win over Auburn).
South Carolina also poses problems because, unlike Arky, they have a balanced offense with two huge 6'4" wide recievers in Jeffery and Moore that will pose matchup problems for Bama's secondary. USCe also has a very stout defense to keep this one close. I think you'll see a very close ballgame in Columbia in 3 weeks, and I wouldn't be shocked to see the Cocks win that game outright. Would it be wrong for me to say "I like Cocks?"
listen to the man, he knows his shit.
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Quote Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:
Before the season started I didn't think there would be many good opportunites to bet Bama because, coming off a national championship season, I thought Vegas would suck the life out of almost every one of their lines. At this point I couldn't have been more wrong about that.
So far the lines have pretty much been gimmes. I thought the SJST line was very sharp when it was sitting at 40, and I was going to lay off. But when it dropped to the magical 37.5 I was all over it. The Penn State and Duke lines were both gimmes as is the Arky line. I would set the Arky line at -16.5 (I was expecting -10). I'm not complaining. I just hope Vegas keeps up the good work.
South Carolina sets up for a classic fade opportunity for many reasons. First, let's assume arguendo that Bama beats Arky and Florida (which I think they will do). After a very emotional win over the Gators at home, Bama will have to travel to Columbia in classic let down spot to face a very confident South Carolina team that will have had 2 weeks to prepare for them. USCe will be very confident IMO because they played the Tide very tough in Bryant-Denny last season (and because I think they'll be coming off of a big conference win over Auburn).
South Carolina also poses problems because, unlike Arky, they have a balanced offense with two huge 6'4" wide recievers in Jeffery and Moore that will pose matchup problems for Bama's secondary. USCe also has a very stout defense to keep this one close. I think you'll see a very close ballgame in Columbia in 3 weeks, and I wouldn't be shocked to see the Cocks win that game outright. Would it be wrong for me to say "I like Cocks?"
That doesn't make sense or you are missing my point. The post I quoted was gwjtf talking about not under estimating the Arkansas running game. UL out rushed Arkansas so I was wondering how they expected to run the ball better against Alabama! I don't care one way or the other, but make an arguement that makes sense. If you think Arkansas is a good bet, take it. There obviously is some emotion need by some hear to coerce people into picking against the best team in college football. I simply don't think it's going to happen. Bet who you want, but man up back here when/if it deosn't go your way. I lose lots of bets. That's why I don't grand stand and quote locks on here. No one knows for sure until the game is played. But there are better plays on the board than hoping Arkansas covers. That was really the point!
GL
I definitely wasn't being sarcastic
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Quote Originally Posted by THE-KID:
That doesn't make sense or you are missing my point. The post I quoted was gwjtf talking about not under estimating the Arkansas running game. UL out rushed Arkansas so I was wondering how they expected to run the ball better against Alabama! I don't care one way or the other, but make an arguement that makes sense. If you think Arkansas is a good bet, take it. There obviously is some emotion need by some hear to coerce people into picking against the best team in college football. I simply don't think it's going to happen. Bet who you want, but man up back here when/if it deosn't go your way. I lose lots of bets. That's why I don't grand stand and quote locks on here. No one knows for sure until the game is played. But there are better plays on the board than hoping Arkansas covers. That was really the point!
Bama is going to destroy Ark if you ask me and I am an unbiased fan. I follow the SEC closely and know damn well how strong the Alabama team is. Saban is going to bring all kind of blitzes and schemes to confuse Mallet. Dont get me wrong, I expect he will have some success, but not enough to outscore the Tide. I look for at least 1-2 injuries on the Arkansas offense due to the size and strength mismatches created by Bama. Saban recruits the best athletes in the country and turns them into machines. Locked in early Bama -7 (Biggest bet of the year)
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Bama is going to destroy Ark if you ask me and I am an unbiased fan. I follow the SEC closely and know damn well how strong the Alabama team is. Saban is going to bring all kind of blitzes and schemes to confuse Mallet. Dont get me wrong, I expect he will have some success, but not enough to outscore the Tide. I look for at least 1-2 injuries on the Arkansas offense due to the size and strength mismatches created by Bama. Saban recruits the best athletes in the country and turns them into machines. Locked in early Bama -7 (Biggest bet of the year)
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