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    LetEMride
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2012 - 3:00 AM ET #126

    feel for you man. had a rough behind day. must be frustrating when you do all the research and analysis and all games go opposite of what you studied.

    i am not trying to be a prick at all. i am just saying i feel you man.

    tomorrow is a new day. gl tomorrow!
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    feel for you man. had a rough behind day. must be frustrating when you do all the research and analysis and all games go opposite of what you studied.

    i am not trying to be a prick at all. i am just saying i feel you man.

    tomorrow is a new day. gl tomorrow!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2012 - 3:16 AM ET #127

    Hey Bud, New Day,New Opportunity.

    Thick or thin ,I'm with you all the way.

    Let's get em
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    Hey Bud, New Day,New Opportunity.

    Thick or thin ,I'm with you all the way.

    Let's get em
     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2012 - 10:58 AM ET #128

    And now for maybe the most important strategy....what to do when ice cold................................

      *if you just stop betting > you lose for sure

      *so maybe make fewer bets...for less money...or use in-game betting and / or half time stuff (which is what I'll do).........I almost never do like most folks...and just watch an obvious loser and whine...but rather look for an in-game bet to get some back.....like Baylor last nite....as it was obvious very early that UCLA was out-matched....if unsure of course just let it go

      *eg.     today I'll make a small bet on Ohio/ULM OVER that's it....and in-game or half time stuff on others ....if any.......

    note : if you have a time honored strategy.... hopefully that breaks a game down from all angles...you won't continue to lose money....BUT...if you knee-jerk...and keep changing strategies ....searching for an easy angle...you might only make it worse

       $$ most importantly...don't chase your losses

    KEY > I HATE a big swing and a miss...like UCLA and Fresno...but best to remember most of these games (esp bowls) can go either way...so just because you lost a bet....you weren't necessarily wrong...........
      *yes....those that do no work struggle to grasp this...unless I'm betting large....often I would rather be RIGHT and lose...than WRONG....and squirrel out a W...... seriously 

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    Speaking of half time stuff...so far

    1H - Dog is 7-3 ATS...OVER is 6-4
    2H - fav/dog 5-5 ATS...UNDER is 8-2
      *SU? - fav is 6-4 1H...2H fav is 6-2-2

    8/10....the 1H SU winner also won the game
    4/10....the team that covered the 1H...also covered the 2H
    8/10....the 2H total was opposite the 1H
      *meaning if 1H was UNDER > 2H was OVER (or vice-versa) in 8 of 10 games

    Overall....
      *FAV are 7-3 SU / 5-5 ATS
      *UNDER is 6-4       


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    2:00 PM                 Line                   Betting Trend
                         Open   Current                                                                       Spread    Money    O/U
    Ohio     (8-4)      59.0  60.5             36%    85%    80%
    ULM     (8-4)       -6      -7                64%    15%    20%

    VALUE
      *slight with Ohio...line maybe should be 3-4

    Travel/SOS/weather/injuries

      *ULM 100 miles away...Ohio 814
      *ULM with slightly tougher (Ohio #123)
      *CLOUDY, 70% CHANCE RAIN. SOUTHEAST WIND 5-10. KICKOFF TEMP 51
      *ULM - ok
       Ohio - beat up in trenches....2 st OL out....2 more ?....DT and NG are ?

    Trends

      *game- FAV is 6-0 SU/ATS...MAC vs SB is 4-0 OVER
      *Ohio- Solich is 3-6 SU/ATS...won their 1st bowl LY...4-8 ATS this year...lost to Troy 48-21 in 2010 bowl
      *ULM -1st ever bowl...covered 31/50 games away....8-4 ATS this year...9-3 OVER
      *conf -if total is 55+ in Sun Belt bowls....OVER is 8-2 ATS..dogs are 8-1-1 in SB bowls
          MAC- after Xmas....MAC teams are 2-15 ATS   

    MOTIVATION

      *both happy to be here.....slight edge to ULM maybe in 1st bowl

    MATCH-UP

      *Both D's struggled down the stretch....esp Ohio...giving up over 500 to Buffalo and even UMass
    In addition Ohio is beat up on D...and have little chance of stopping ULM here..ULM after a strong start gave up 465 yds and 31 pts their last 6 games (607 to ULL)....With 2 very good/mobile QB's...both should be able to move it...ULM with large ST edge

    Recommendation
      *ULM appears the much stronger team and close to home...but a bowl virgin vs a veteran bowl team in Ohio...ULM should win a close but high scoring game
    Ohio with SLIM chance at upset..........

    $ small play OVER 60'...strong lean Ohio +7  

    Problems?

      *Ohio beat up on OL...and waited 9 days for a bowl invite...only got this one after La Tech backed out...so maybe just ready for year to be over?

    BOL boys...............

    It is better to be feared - than to be loved.
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    And now for maybe the most important strategy....what to do when ice cold................................

      *if you just stop betting > you lose for sure

      *so maybe make fewer bets...for less money...or use in-game betting and / or half time stuff (which is what I'll do).........I almost never do like most folks...and just watch an obvious loser and whine...but rather look for an in-game bet to get some back.....like Baylor last nite....as it was obvious very early that UCLA was out-matched....if unsure of course just let it go

      *eg.     today I'll make a small bet on Ohio/ULM OVER that's it....and in-game or half time stuff on others ....if any.......

    note : if you have a time honored strategy.... hopefully that breaks a game down from all angles...you won't continue to lose money....BUT...if you knee-jerk...and keep changing strategies ....searching for an easy angle...you might only make it worse

       $$ most importantly...don't chase your losses

    KEY > I HATE a big swing and a miss...like UCLA and Fresno...but best to remember most of these games (esp bowls) can go either way...so just because you lost a bet....you weren't necessarily wrong...........
      *yes....those that do no work struggle to grasp this...unless I'm betting large....often I would rather be RIGHT and lose...than WRONG....and squirrel out a W...... seriously 

    -----------------------------------------------------------

    Speaking of half time stuff...so far

    1H - Dog is 7-3 ATS...OVER is 6-4
    2H - fav/dog 5-5 ATS...UNDER is 8-2
      *SU? - fav is 6-4 1H...2H fav is 6-2-2

    8/10....the 1H SU winner also won the game
    4/10....the team that covered the 1H...also covered the 2H
    8/10....the 2H total was opposite the 1H
      *meaning if 1H was UNDER > 2H was OVER (or vice-versa) in 8 of 10 games

    Overall....
      *FAV are 7-3 SU / 5-5 ATS
      *UNDER is 6-4       


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    2:00 PM                 Line                   Betting Trend
                         Open   Current                                                                       Spread    Money    O/U
    Ohio     (8-4)      59.0  60.5             36%    85%    80%
    ULM     (8-4)       -6      -7                64%    15%    20%

    VALUE
      *slight with Ohio...line maybe should be 3-4

    Travel/SOS/weather/injuries

      *ULM 100 miles away...Ohio 814
      *ULM with slightly tougher (Ohio #123)
      *CLOUDY, 70% CHANCE RAIN. SOUTHEAST WIND 5-10. KICKOFF TEMP 51
      *ULM - ok
       Ohio - beat up in trenches....2 st OL out....2 more ?....DT and NG are ?

    Trends

      *game- FAV is 6-0 SU/ATS...MAC vs SB is 4-0 OVER
      *Ohio- Solich is 3-6 SU/ATS...won their 1st bowl LY...4-8 ATS this year...lost to Troy 48-21 in 2010 bowl
      *ULM -1st ever bowl...covered 31/50 games away....8-4 ATS this year...9-3 OVER
      *conf -if total is 55+ in Sun Belt bowls....OVER is 8-2 ATS..dogs are 8-1-1 in SB bowls
          MAC- after Xmas....MAC teams are 2-15 ATS   

    MOTIVATION

      *both happy to be here.....slight edge to ULM maybe in 1st bowl

    MATCH-UP

      *Both D's struggled down the stretch....esp Ohio...giving up over 500 to Buffalo and even UMass
    In addition Ohio is beat up on D...and have little chance of stopping ULM here..ULM after a strong start gave up 465 yds and 31 pts their last 6 games (607 to ULL)....With 2 very good/mobile QB's...both should be able to move it...ULM with large ST edge

    Recommendation
      *ULM appears the much stronger team and close to home...but a bowl virgin vs a veteran bowl team in Ohio...ULM should win a close but high scoring game
    Ohio with SLIM chance at upset..........

    $ small play OVER 60'...strong lean Ohio +7  

    Problems?

      *Ohio beat up on OL...and waited 9 days for a bowl invite...only got this one after La Tech backed out...so maybe just ready for year to be over?

    BOL boys...............

     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2012 - 11:21 AM ET #129

    Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36:

    Bookie, I'm of the opinion that Bama will win the game but
    N. dame will come inside the #. what is your opinion ?


    smart move.....ask me who I like then go opposite and load up?.................
      *might do that myself.........

    Key in that one seems to be that .....sure Irish should struggle to move it.....but I don't see how Bama just rolls over the Irish D...so 10 points is a ton in what should be a very low scoring game....
    good man WG.....all the best............

    *any more faders.....I really like Kansas St............


      *esp after Baylor just destroys UCLA


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    Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36:

    Bookie, I'm of the opinion that Bama will win the game but
    N. dame will come inside the #. what is your opinion ?


    smart move.....ask me who I like then go opposite and load up?.................
      *might do that myself.........

    Key in that one seems to be that .....sure Irish should struggle to move it.....but I don't see how Bama just rolls over the Irish D...so 10 points is a ton in what should be a very low scoring game....
    good man WG.....all the best............

    *any more faders.....I really like Kansas St............


      *esp after Baylor just destroys UCLA


     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2012 - 11:43 AM ET #130

    ULM is the best play today IMNHO ... Ohio fell off big time after being touted as a BCS Buster ... The Warhawks could win in a easy route  

    Rutgers vs Va Tech might be the UGLIEST Bowl this season 

    Tech vs Minnesota looks like a who cares ....



    May you sweep ur board today Brother 

    Love reading ur stuff
    BEST OF HEALTH, HAPPINESS,WEALTH, BLESSINGS and LUCK TO ALL !!
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    ULM is the best play today IMNHO ... Ohio fell off big time after being touted as a BCS Buster ... The Warhawks could win in a easy route  

    Rutgers vs Va Tech might be the UGLIEST Bowl this season 

    Tech vs Minnesota looks like a who cares ....



    May you sweep ur board today Brother 

    Love reading ur stuff
     
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    best s h i t  on covers 

    win 1 game and you feel better
    win 2 games and your on a roll
    win 3 games and your on fire
    here's to being on fire
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    best s h i t  on covers 

    win 1 game and you feel better
    win 2 games and your on a roll
    win 3 games and your on fire
    here's to being on fire
     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2012 - 2:00 PM ET #132

    Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:



    smart move.....ask me who I like then go opposite and load up?.................
      *might do that myself.........

    Key in that one seems to be that .....sure Irish should struggle to move it.....but I don't see how Bama just rolls over the Irish D...so 10 points is a ton in what should be a very low scoring game....
    good man WG.....all the best............

    *any more faders.....I really like Kansas St............


      *esp after Baylor just destroys UCLA




    I'll stop posting to your thread. that'll change your Luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:



    smart move.....ask me who I like then go opposite and load up?.................
      *might do that myself.........

    Key in that one seems to be that .....sure Irish should struggle to move it.....but I don't see how Bama just rolls over the Irish D...so 10 points is a ton in what should be a very low scoring game....
    good man WG.....all the best............

    *any more faders.....I really like Kansas St............


      *esp after Baylor just destroys UCLA




    I'll stop posting to your thread. that'll change your Luck.
     
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    Best of Luck, Bud.
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    Best of Luck, Bud.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2012 - 5:00 PM ET #134

    5:30 PM     Line    Betting Trend
                            Open    Current    Spread    Money    O/U
    Rutgers  (9-3)       43.0    41           66%    65%    70%
    VaTech   (6-6)        -1      -2            34%    35%    30%


    VALUE
      *with Rutgers...line should be pick...or Rutgers slight fav

    Travel/SOS/weather/injuries

      *VT 604 miles...RU 915
      *Hokies much tougher (#47 > #90)
      *PARTLY CLOUDY, EAST WIND 6-11. KICKOFF TEMP 63 deg
      *no key inj

    Trends  

      *game -'home' team is 8-1 ATS...ACC is 8-1/6-3 ATS....dog is 5-2 ATS
      *RU - **5-0 SU / 4-0-1 ATS run in bowls...4-0 UNDER vs ACC...OVER is 4-2.. 1st bowl for HC
      *VT - 6-10 SU / 6-9 ATS bowl run...8-2 OVER vs BE..5-1 OVER Dec bowls...Hokies on 6-18 ATS run in all games
      *conf-ACC is 13-9/ 15-6 ATS vs BE

    MOTIVATION

      *both questionable...Rutgers one win away from BCS game...Hokies off a 6-6 season...slight edge to RU maybe

    MATCH-UP

      *Rutgers with the stronger D...especially vs the run ....putting all the pressure on VT QB Thomas (53%...17 TD / 14 INT)..as WR and RB's shaky at best
    Scarlet Knight O will have similar issues...but have a dangerous (and huge) group of WR's....and a nice RB (healthier) in Jamison....and OL offers better protection

    Recommendation
      *both teams turned the ball over late in the year...and can also force TO's....so what appears to be a very low scoring game may open up a bit..both teams will need throw the ball to have a chance to win
    Hokies are dangerous here....but I look for Rutgers to stay close or win...a relatively high scoring game
     
    $ small play OVER 41....strong lean Rutgers +2....(Rutgers ML not bad idea)   

    Problems?

      *Hokies show up motivated for some reason...and QB Thomas plays to his potential... RU struggled late vs tougher teams....playing a very weak schedule
         note: vs common opponents (Cinn and Pitt)....Rutgers D did a much better job

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    Rutgers  (9-3)       43.0    41           66%    65%    70%
    VaTech   (6-6)        -1      -2            34%    35%    30%


    VALUE
      *with Rutgers...line should be pick...or Rutgers slight fav

    Travel/SOS/weather/injuries

      *VT 604 miles...RU 915
      *Hokies much tougher (#47 > #90)
      *PARTLY CLOUDY, EAST WIND 6-11. KICKOFF TEMP 63 deg
      *no key inj

    Trends  

      *game -'home' team is 8-1 ATS...ACC is 8-1/6-3 ATS....dog is 5-2 ATS
      *RU - **5-0 SU / 4-0-1 ATS run in bowls...4-0 UNDER vs ACC...OVER is 4-2.. 1st bowl for HC
      *VT - 6-10 SU / 6-9 ATS bowl run...8-2 OVER vs BE..5-1 OVER Dec bowls...Hokies on 6-18 ATS run in all games
      *conf-ACC is 13-9/ 15-6 ATS vs BE

    MOTIVATION

      *both questionable...Rutgers one win away from BCS game...Hokies off a 6-6 season...slight edge to RU maybe

    MATCH-UP

      *Rutgers with the stronger D...especially vs the run ....putting all the pressure on VT QB Thomas (53%...17 TD / 14 INT)..as WR and RB's shaky at best
    Scarlet Knight O will have similar issues...but have a dangerous (and huge) group of WR's....and a nice RB (healthier) in Jamison....and OL offers better protection

    Recommendation
      *both teams turned the ball over late in the year...and can also force TO's....so what appears to be a very low scoring game may open up a bit..both teams will need throw the ball to have a chance to win
    Hokies are dangerous here....but I look for Rutgers to stay close or win...a relatively high scoring game
     
    $ small play OVER 41....strong lean Rutgers +2....(Rutgers ML not bad idea)   

    Problems?

      *Hokies show up motivated for some reason...and QB Thomas plays to his potential... RU struggled late vs tougher teams....playing a very weak schedule
         note: vs common opponents (Cinn and Pitt)....Rutgers D did a much better job

     
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    9:00 PM                 Line                   Betting Trend
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    Minn     (6-6)      57.0    55.5            20%    47%    55%
    T Tech  (7-5)      -13    -13                80%    53%    45%


    VALUE
      *maybe very slight with Minny..figuring in TT losing their HC..maybe giving TT a point or 2 for crowd edge
       RRaider fans are crazy and will show up here and be loud (alcohol fueled)....
        note> 80% on TTech...line hasn't moved

    Travel/SOS/weather/injuries

      *TT 464 miles (terrible drive if not familar)...Minny 1059
      * TT tougher
      *dome
      *Minn....OL beat to hell
      *TT- top cover corner Douglas susp...+ b/u LB and depthDT
    *

    Trends  

      *game- OVER is 5-0...Big 12 1-4 SU/ATS
      *Minn- 0-4 SU/1-3 ATS in bowls....dogs are 7-2 in Minn bowls...HC Kill is 0-2/0-2 in bowls
             all games 7-17 ATS away....vs good O's (5.7+/play)
      *TT- 1-5 ATS in bowls....dogs are 10-3 in TT bowls

    MOTIVATION

     *HUGE edge to Minny (1st bowl since '09)...tempered somewhat by TT hiring very popular former player Kliff Kingsbury
    OL coach Thomsen (rumored to go to Cal) is interim..keep in mind most or not all of TT staff has spent most of their time looking for jobs

     
    MATCH-UP

     *Minny playing with what amounts to 3rd string QB...can't really run or pass (TT can't bring heat nor forces TO's)...Minny pass D is prob their strength so they do have a very slim shot at stopping TT...TT might have trouble running...
    TT D has had key injuries but should be able to get stops even if half asleep..TT with HUGE QB edge which might be the difference here

    Recommendation

      *Minny a beat up team...traveling 1000 miles with a HC possibly having a seizure any minute....with the memory a teammate (best LB) passing away in off-season..and having just lost arguably their best player (WR Barker suddenly quits team in November when HC Kill was mean to him )
    TT after great start faded in a big way down the stretch...HC slapping coaches on SL then sneaks outta town....if the problem was actually Tuberville...we will know as they might look great ?.......
     
    $  NO SMART PLAY on this game...small play  OVER if you must...an unmotivated DD bowl favorite about the worst play ever....so we'll lean with Minny...although GTTH I would prob play Tech gotta admit
     
    Problems?

      * TT shows up at all it should easily be a 45-21 type game....kinda the game I'm expecting....just no way I'm gonna back TT here






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    Minn     (6-6)      57.0    55.5            20%    47%    55%
    T Tech  (7-5)      -13    -13                80%    53%    45%


    VALUE
      *maybe very slight with Minny..figuring in TT losing their HC..maybe giving TT a point or 2 for crowd edge
       RRaider fans are crazy and will show up here and be loud (alcohol fueled)....
        note> 80% on TTech...line hasn't moved

    Travel/SOS/weather/injuries

      *TT 464 miles (terrible drive if not familar)...Minny 1059
      * TT tougher
      *dome
      *Minn....OL beat to hell
      *TT- top cover corner Douglas susp...+ b/u LB and depthDT
    *

    Trends  

      *game- OVER is 5-0...Big 12 1-4 SU/ATS
      *Minn- 0-4 SU/1-3 ATS in bowls....dogs are 7-2 in Minn bowls...HC Kill is 0-2/0-2 in bowls
             all games 7-17 ATS away....vs good O's (5.7+/play)
      *TT- 1-5 ATS in bowls....dogs are 10-3 in TT bowls

    MOTIVATION

     *HUGE edge to Minny (1st bowl since '09)...tempered somewhat by TT hiring very popular former player Kliff Kingsbury
    OL coach Thomsen (rumored to go to Cal) is interim..keep in mind most or not all of TT staff has spent most of their time looking for jobs

     
    MATCH-UP

     *Minny playing with what amounts to 3rd string QB...can't really run or pass (TT can't bring heat nor forces TO's)...Minny pass D is prob their strength so they do have a very slim shot at stopping TT...TT might have trouble running...
    TT D has had key injuries but should be able to get stops even if half asleep..TT with HUGE QB edge which might be the difference here

    Recommendation

      *Minny a beat up team...traveling 1000 miles with a HC possibly having a seizure any minute....with the memory a teammate (best LB) passing away in off-season..and having just lost arguably their best player (WR Barker suddenly quits team in November when HC Kill was mean to him )
    TT after great start faded in a big way down the stretch...HC slapping coaches on SL then sneaks outta town....if the problem was actually Tuberville...we will know as they might look great ?.......
     
    $  NO SMART PLAY on this game...small play  OVER if you must...an unmotivated DD bowl favorite about the worst play ever....so we'll lean with Minny...although GTTH I would prob play Tech gotta admit
     
    Problems?

      * TT shows up at all it should easily be a 45-21 type game....kinda the game I'm expecting....just no way I'm gonna back TT here






     
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    11:45 AM               Line                    Betting Trend
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    AForce (6-6)      59.0    -2.5             48%    46%    94%
    Rice     (6-6)        1         62             52%    54%    6%


    VALUE-
     *slight with Rice (should be where it opened at -1)

    Travel/SOS/weather/injuries
      *Rice 235 miles...AF 596
      *Rice tougher SOS
      * MOSTLY SUNNY, NORTH WIND 4-9. KICKOFF TEMP 37, WIND CHILL 32
      *no key inj

    TRENDS
      *game- dog is 4-0....CUSA is 0-3/0-3...Texas teams are 1-4/2-3 ATS
      *AF - 7-2 ATS in bowls...9-1/7-3 vs CUSA....OVER is 6-3 in AF bowls
      *Rice- 1 bowl win last 58 years


    MOTIVATION
      *slight to Rice

    MATCH-UP
      *immediate concern is Rice D (allows 5.1/rush) stopping AF running game...AF is very small TY in the trenches...but Rice is very young in the DL (and OL)
    AF D is just as bad and Rice has a mobile QB in McHargue...big tough RB in Ross (6-1/230...5.7/rush) and b/u's are 230 and 235...(bigger than AF LB's easy....>AF DL mot much bigger)
    Rice av 4.2/rush and rushed for 246 at Tulsa...also outgained SMU 423-317...winning 36-14 ..so much improved

    PLAY
      *usually in bowl season you fade the weak/av team that got hot late (Rice)...now having to take about 5 weeks off..esp facing a team like AF (bad finish...drilled by Army...SDiego St and Fresno)...> now with time to rest / regroup..... keep in mind Rice BEAT SMU

    I like Rice here but Air Force just too tough in bowls....gotta figure that Rice D will eventually yield to AF rushing machine (beat up all year > now healthy)

    $ small play OVER....slight lean AF....both are fast starters...2H should be opposite of first (eg.  AF / UNDER 1H....> Rice / OVER 2H)

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    Navy     (8-4)      56   53.5              66%    78%    40%
    Ariz St   (7-5)     14'    -14               34%    22%    60%

    VALUE
      *with Navy..line should be 11-12 ish

    Travel/SOS/weather/injuries
      *ASU 661...Navy 2465
      *ASU 49th toughest...Navy #104
      *no key inj
      *CLOUDY, 40% CHANCE SHOWERS. SOUTHWEST WIND 8-13. KICKOFF TEMP 50

    TRENDS
     *game- UNDER is 5-0...fav is 5-0/3-2
      *Navy - HC 1-3/2-2....Navy 13-4 as dog all games ..on long trips (1000+) Navy is 19-8 ATS
      *ASU -HC A-Hole is 3-1/3-1 in bowls (1st one at ASU)...ASU 0-4/1-3 ATS in bowls
        PAC12 teams as 6+ fav cover 33% of time in bowls

    MOTIVATION
      *Navy missed on a bowl LY so will be ready here...a large disparity in which each last played too
       ASU won at Zona on 11/23...Navy beat Army on 12/8...

    MATCH-UP
      *ASU with edges all around...and should kill Navy ...(on paper)..ASU with a tough and aggressive DL/LB that may not be disciplined enough to handle Navy O for 4 qtrs..their defensive strength is (upfield) rushing the passer and defending the pass..
    ASU D did give up big rushing numbers to N Ariz (305)...Ducks (406) and Zona (292)
     
    PLAY
      *although the match-up favors ASU in a big way....laying 2 TD with a PAC12 team vs a proven dog like Navy is usually a terrible idea
    $ small play Navy +14.....slight lean OVER

    Problems?
      *ASU D shows up big... getting penetration...resulting in a lotta 3 and outs for Navy O ...could be a very long day for Navy...not as bad as Notre Dame...but close

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    AForce (6-6)      59.0    -2.5             48%    46%    94%
    Rice     (6-6)        1         62             52%    54%    6%


    VALUE-
     *slight with Rice (should be where it opened at -1)

    Travel/SOS/weather/injuries
      *Rice 235 miles...AF 596
      *Rice tougher SOS
      * MOSTLY SUNNY, NORTH WIND 4-9. KICKOFF TEMP 37, WIND CHILL 32
      *no key inj

    TRENDS
      *game- dog is 4-0....CUSA is 0-3/0-3...Texas teams are 1-4/2-3 ATS
      *AF - 7-2 ATS in bowls...9-1/7-3 vs CUSA....OVER is 6-3 in AF bowls
      *Rice- 1 bowl win last 58 years


    MOTIVATION
      *slight to Rice

    MATCH-UP
      *immediate concern is Rice D (allows 5.1/rush) stopping AF running game...AF is very small TY in the trenches...but Rice is very young in the DL (and OL)
    AF D is just as bad and Rice has a mobile QB in McHargue...big tough RB in Ross (6-1/230...5.7/rush) and b/u's are 230 and 235...(bigger than AF LB's easy....>AF DL mot much bigger)
    Rice av 4.2/rush and rushed for 246 at Tulsa...also outgained SMU 423-317...winning 36-14 ..so much improved

    PLAY
      *usually in bowl season you fade the weak/av team that got hot late (Rice)...now having to take about 5 weeks off..esp facing a team like AF (bad finish...drilled by Army...SDiego St and Fresno)...> now with time to rest / regroup..... keep in mind Rice BEAT SMU

    I like Rice here but Air Force just too tough in bowls....gotta figure that Rice D will eventually yield to AF rushing machine (beat up all year > now healthy)

    $ small play OVER....slight lean AF....both are fast starters...2H should be opposite of first (eg.  AF / UNDER 1H....> Rice / OVER 2H)

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    Navy     (8-4)      56   53.5              66%    78%    40%
    Ariz St   (7-5)     14'    -14               34%    22%    60%

    VALUE
      *with Navy..line should be 11-12 ish

    Travel/SOS/weather/injuries
      *ASU 661...Navy 2465
      *ASU 49th toughest...Navy #104
      *no key inj
      *CLOUDY, 40% CHANCE SHOWERS. SOUTHWEST WIND 8-13. KICKOFF TEMP 50

    TRENDS
     *game- UNDER is 5-0...fav is 5-0/3-2
      *Navy - HC 1-3/2-2....Navy 13-4 as dog all games ..on long trips (1000+) Navy is 19-8 ATS
      *ASU -HC A-Hole is 3-1/3-1 in bowls (1st one at ASU)...ASU 0-4/1-3 ATS in bowls
        PAC12 teams as 6+ fav cover 33% of time in bowls

    MOTIVATION
      *Navy missed on a bowl LY so will be ready here...a large disparity in which each last played too
       ASU won at Zona on 11/23...Navy beat Army on 12/8...

    MATCH-UP
      *ASU with edges all around...and should kill Navy ...(on paper)..ASU with a tough and aggressive DL/LB that may not be disciplined enough to handle Navy O for 4 qtrs..their defensive strength is (upfield) rushing the passer and defending the pass..
    ASU D did give up big rushing numbers to N Ariz (305)...Ducks (406) and Zona (292)
     
    PLAY
      *although the match-up favors ASU in a big way....laying 2 TD with a PAC12 team vs a proven dog like Navy is usually a terrible idea
    $ small play Navy +14.....slight lean OVER

    Problems?
      *ASU D shows up big... getting penetration...resulting in a lotta 3 and outs for Navy O ...could be a very long day for Navy...not as bad as Notre Dame...but close

     
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    3:15 PM                    Line                 Betting Trend
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    WVirg       (7-5)     -3.5    -3.5             81%    55%    68%
    Syracuse (7-5)      67.0    72              19%    45%    32%

    VALUE

      *with Cuse ....line should be 2 or so
        note 81% on WV...line same

    Travel/SOS/weather/injuries

      *WV 332....Cuse 192 miles
      *WV tougher SOS (#21 > 39)
      *CLOUDY, 90% CHANCE SNOW./ NW WIND 11-16/ TEMP 35 / WIND CHILL 26 / SNOW 2-3 INCHES
      *WV - st OL Madsen out...CB Banks ?
       Cuse - no key...LB Spruill (4th leading tackler) is ?

    TRENDS

     *game- BE is 2-0/2-0 vs B12
     *WV -0-7 ATS as a bowl fav..OVER is 10-3...5-1 ATS if rush for 150+
     *Cuse-3-1/3-1 in bowls...2-0 vs B12
     
    MOTIVATION

      *big edge to Syracuse...who missed out on bowl LY...Couch Burners thinking Heisman/BCS bowl at one point

    MATCH-UP
      *since WV moved great WR Austin to RB...vs OU..they averaged 313 yds rushing per game/7.0 per rush (vs OU...Iowa St and Kansas) and are basically impossible to stop..the issue is ..they have maybe the worst pass D in the nation....and Cuse QB Nassib on fire
    Syracuse D not much better....so both will move it like crazy

    PLAY
      *match-up favors WV...but Syracuse the more motivated team....plus trends say dog in a big way
    $$  solid play OVER....slight lean Syracuse

    Problems?
      *weather could be an issue for sure...if not too windy may help the OFFENSE...
    if Geno / WV motivated they could just outscore the Cuse here

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    6:45 PM                    LINE                   Betting Trend
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    Oreg St    (9-3)      -1       -3          73%    34%    80%
    Texas       (8-4)     60.0    57.5        27%    66%    20%

    VALUE
     *oddly enough with Texas..line should be closer to pick..or better factoring in crowd edge

    Travel/SOS/weather/injuries

      *Texas 75 miles...OSU 1711
      *OSU slightly tougher schedule
      *domed toilet
      *Texas - best? OL Trey Hopkins OUT...DT Dorsey OUT...MLB Edmonds is ??....RB/big play threat Daje Johnson is ??...b/u QB McCoy out
      *OSU - b/u DE Fifita out + b/u LB...no key..big play guys on O all banged up tho
      
    TRENDS
      *game- fav 6-0/4-2...Texas (teams from) are 1-5 ATS
      *Texas- 10-2/4-6 ATS bowls....5-16 ATS vs ranked (all games)
      *OSU- 5-1 SU / ATS in bowls.....5-2 OVER

    MOTIVATION

      *HUGE edge to OSU...missed bowl LY...will be fired up for Texas

    MATCH-UP / PLAY

      *simple here...OSU can stop the Horn running game...which will put the game on Ash's shaky shoulders...(OSU with nation's #16 pass D)...Texas shouldn't be able to stop the Beavs dangerous playmakers..Beav running game just average...but should be able to run here...esp with latest injuries to Horn Def front...1st look would be to Texas here...playing close to home in a game which looks like they should be favored
    But Beavs actually  look like the better team and should be able to win a high scoring game...

    $$ small play Oreg St...slight lean OVER


    problem?....Mack usually get's Horns ready for these non-BCS bowls....when you think about it....a tall order for Beavs really

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    TCU      (7-5)       -1       -2.5             72%    44%    27%
    Mich St (6-6)      42.5    40.5             28%    56%    73%

    VALUE
     *none

    Travel/SOS/weather/injuries
      *TCU 848 miles...MSU 1618
      *Frogs slightly tougher SOS
      *TCU - no key...b/u OL and b/u DL out
       MSU- st CB Adams is doubtful...st S Lewis (2nd LT) is ??
       *CLEAR, SOUTHEAST WIND 4-9. KICKOFF TEMP 59

    TRENDS
      *game- B12 is is 5-1/4-2...dogs are 10-5..OVER is 14-5-1
      TCU- GP 7-4 SU/4-6-1 ATS bowls...winning 6 of last 7 SU
      MSU - Dantonio 1-4/2-3 bowls...OVER is 11-3
     
    MOTIVATION

      *IMO....Frogs will be the fired up team....after losing their best players on O and D to suspensions...and several more to injury...then beating Texas...TCU needs this one bad as a springboard to next year...where it looks like they can compete for B12 title..
    Sparty with huge expectations....vs a weak B10..off 6-6...maybe just ready for season to be over..?....usually play in better bowls vs SEC

    MATCH-UP / PLAY

      *MSU with very tough D...But Frogs right there too...and faced MUCH tougher offenses each week....Frogs with the better QB and more dangerous playmakers...Frogs MIGHT move it some...I don't think Mich St moves it at all
    Look for Frogs to win a very low scoring game...

    $ small play TCU....strong lean UNDER...1H Under maybe best play

    problems?
      *Frogs one of nation's youngest teams....a veteran MSU team if motivated ...could win this one no doubt


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    WVirg       (7-5)     -3.5    -3.5             81%    55%    68%
    Syracuse (7-5)      67.0    72              19%    45%    32%

    VALUE

      *with Cuse ....line should be 2 or so
        note 81% on WV...line same

    Travel/SOS/weather/injuries

      *WV 332....Cuse 192 miles
      *WV tougher SOS (#21 > 39)
      *CLOUDY, 90% CHANCE SNOW./ NW WIND 11-16/ TEMP 35 / WIND CHILL 26 / SNOW 2-3 INCHES
      *WV - st OL Madsen out...CB Banks ?
       Cuse - no key...LB Spruill (4th leading tackler) is ?

    TRENDS

     *game- BE is 2-0/2-0 vs B12
     *WV -0-7 ATS as a bowl fav..OVER is 10-3...5-1 ATS if rush for 150+
     *Cuse-3-1/3-1 in bowls...2-0 vs B12
     
    MOTIVATION

      *big edge to Syracuse...who missed out on bowl LY...Couch Burners thinking Heisman/BCS bowl at one point

    MATCH-UP
      *since WV moved great WR Austin to RB...vs OU..they averaged 313 yds rushing per game/7.0 per rush (vs OU...Iowa St and Kansas) and are basically impossible to stop..the issue is ..they have maybe the worst pass D in the nation....and Cuse QB Nassib on fire
    Syracuse D not much better....so both will move it like crazy

    PLAY
      *match-up favors WV...but Syracuse the more motivated team....plus trends say dog in a big way
    $$  solid play OVER....slight lean Syracuse

    Problems?
      *weather could be an issue for sure...if not too windy may help the OFFENSE...
    if Geno / WV motivated they could just outscore the Cuse here

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    Oreg St    (9-3)      -1       -3          73%    34%    80%
    Texas       (8-4)     60.0    57.5        27%    66%    20%

    VALUE
     *oddly enough with Texas..line should be closer to pick..or better factoring in crowd edge

    Travel/SOS/weather/injuries

      *Texas 75 miles...OSU 1711
      *OSU slightly tougher schedule
      *domed toilet
      *Texas - best? OL Trey Hopkins OUT...DT Dorsey OUT...MLB Edmonds is ??....RB/big play threat Daje Johnson is ??...b/u QB McCoy out
      *OSU - b/u DE Fifita out + b/u LB...no key..big play guys on O all banged up tho
      
    TRENDS
      *game- fav 6-0/4-2...Texas (teams from) are 1-5 ATS
      *Texas- 10-2/4-6 ATS bowls....5-16 ATS vs ranked (all games)
      *OSU- 5-1 SU / ATS in bowls.....5-2 OVER

    MOTIVATION

      *HUGE edge to OSU...missed bowl LY...will be fired up for Texas

    MATCH-UP / PLAY

      *simple here...OSU can stop the Horn running game...which will put the game on Ash's shaky shoulders...(OSU with nation's #16 pass D)...Texas shouldn't be able to stop the Beavs dangerous playmakers..Beav running game just average...but should be able to run here...esp with latest injuries to Horn Def front...1st look would be to Texas here...playing close to home in a game which looks like they should be favored
    But Beavs actually  look like the better team and should be able to win a high scoring game...

    $$ small play Oreg St...slight lean OVER


    problem?....Mack usually get's Horns ready for these non-BCS bowls....when you think about it....a tall order for Beavs really

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    10:15 PM                  Line                   Betting Trend
                         Open    Current    Spread    Money    O/U
    TCU      (7-5)       -1       -2.5             72%    44%    27%
    Mich St (6-6)      42.5    40.5             28%    56%    73%

    VALUE
     *none

    Travel/SOS/weather/injuries
      *TCU 848 miles...MSU 1618
      *Frogs slightly tougher SOS
      *TCU - no key...b/u OL and b/u DL out
       MSU- st CB Adams is doubtful...st S Lewis (2nd LT) is ??
       *CLEAR, SOUTHEAST WIND 4-9. KICKOFF TEMP 59

    TRENDS
      *game- B12 is is 5-1/4-2...dogs are 10-5..OVER is 14-5-1
      TCU- GP 7-4 SU/4-6-1 ATS bowls...winning 6 of last 7 SU
      MSU - Dantonio 1-4/2-3 bowls...OVER is 11-3
     
    MOTIVATION

      *IMO....Frogs will be the fired up team....after losing their best players on O and D to suspensions...and several more to injury...then beating Texas...TCU needs this one bad as a springboard to next year...where it looks like they can compete for B12 title..
    Sparty with huge expectations....vs a weak B10..off 6-6...maybe just ready for season to be over..?....usually play in better bowls vs SEC

    MATCH-UP / PLAY

      *MSU with very tough D...But Frogs right there too...and faced MUCH tougher offenses each week....Frogs with the better QB and more dangerous playmakers...Frogs MIGHT move it some...I don't think Mich St moves it at all
    Look for Frogs to win a very low scoring game...

    $ small play TCU....strong lean UNDER...1H Under maybe best play

    problems?
      *Frogs one of nation's youngest teams....a veteran MSU team if motivated ...could win this one no doubt


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    turn it around brother man 
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    Caution on All Remaining Bowl Games!

    Must use great caution on all remaining "Bowl" games.  Oregon State throwing footballs directly into the hands (three times) of enemy players only ten yards away...TCU fumbling footballs on two yard lines...yesterday's game of a team "fumbling" footballs twice on the ONE YARD line...and Duke covering 10 point spread and has "sudden fumbles" allowing Cincinnati to cover the spread with 2 minutes in game!

    And many, many "flags" even noticed by the TV commentators as "false flags".  None of these type of incidents in regular season play!  Only in muti-million dollar Bowl Games with Vegas in total control!  Many sports bettors must be noticing these "sudden" turn arounds in the bowl games.

    Can't be "sour grapes" as I've been on the winning side of a few of these "disasters".  But such actions, in bowl game after bowl game, no "accidents".  Many have noticed the same, no doubt.  Must use extreme caution on all remaining bowl games...even more so with Orange Bowl, Sugar Bowl and Cotton Bowl!

      BOL                

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    Caution on All Remaining Bowl Games!

    Must use great caution on all remaining "Bowl" games.  Oregon State throwing footballs directly into the hands (three times) of enemy players only ten yards away...TCU fumbling footballs on two yard lines...yesterday's game of a team "fumbling" footballs twice on the ONE YARD line...and Duke covering 10 point spread and has "sudden fumbles" allowing Cincinnati to cover the spread with 2 minutes in game!

    And many, many "flags" even noticed by the TV commentators as "false flags".  None of these type of incidents in regular season play!  Only in muti-million dollar Bowl Games with Vegas in total control!  Many sports bettors must be noticing these "sudden" turn arounds in the bowl games.

    Can't be "sour grapes" as I've been on the winning side of a few of these "disasters".  But such actions, in bowl game after bowl game, no "accidents".  Many have noticed the same, no doubt.  Must use extreme caution on all remaining bowl games...even more so with Orange Bowl, Sugar Bowl and Cotton Bowl!

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    Bowls are no joke.  SDSt, Fresno, Boise killed me, but Cuse got me back in the game.  

    Not a bad card for NYE

    Vandy/Nc St -  Vandy seems to have a motivational edge.  Glennon will want to have a big game for his NFL prospects.  Vandy is playing to be one of the best ever Vandy teams. I like Vandy in this game to cover pretty easily, but I am hoping Glennon has a subpar game.  If he throws for 375 I will be in trouble.

    G Tech/USC  -  No Barkley, USC has had a weak front 7 all year. will they be able to stop an option they have not seen since Oregon ST stopped running it in the late 90s.  We have just seen two option teams get shredded, who has the appetite to back a third?  These two coaches might go for it on 4th down 10 times combined.  Line has moved from 9.5 to 7.5 because Barkely is out, but the backup will play just as good IMO because he is playing for his starting spot next year.  I am going to pass on this game, but I will be rooting for a USC loss for personal reasons.   Over 62 seems like a bargain, but I am not a totals guy.

    LSU/Clemson -  huge bragging rights game.  Huge game for Clemson star's NFL draft stock as well.   My gut tells me that LSU will win by 2 points, but my mind is saying LSU in a rout.  

    Iowa St/Tulsa - should be a back and forth game.  Tulsa plays better football than Iowa St IMO.  Tulsa does not get a lot of chances to play a B12 team.  I thought the Tulsa QB would be a bum and I was totally wrong, he should play a great game.   I liked Iowa St at the start of the year and they delivered a few games for me, but they also disappointed esp late in the year.



    If I have 10 units to wager

    LSU = 3 units
    Tulsa = 3 units
    GTech/USC over 1 unit
    GTech ML  half  unit
    GTech plus points half unit
    VANDY 2 UNITS

    Still a lot of bowls left to play and we can turn it around.


    Try a Clemson/South Carolina/Georgia ML parlay, I don't see how that loses.
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    Bowls are no joke.  SDSt, Fresno, Boise killed me, but Cuse got me back in the game.  

    Not a bad card for NYE

    Vandy/Nc St -  Vandy seems to have a motivational edge.  Glennon will want to have a big game for his NFL prospects.  Vandy is playing to be one of the best ever Vandy teams. I like Vandy in this game to cover pretty easily, but I am hoping Glennon has a subpar game.  If he throws for 375 I will be in trouble.

    G Tech/USC  -  No Barkley, USC has had a weak front 7 all year. will they be able to stop an option they have not seen since Oregon ST stopped running it in the late 90s.  We have just seen two option teams get shredded, who has the appetite to back a third?  These two coaches might go for it on 4th down 10 times combined.  Line has moved from 9.5 to 7.5 because Barkely is out, but the backup will play just as good IMO because he is playing for his starting spot next year.  I am going to pass on this game, but I will be rooting for a USC loss for personal reasons.   Over 62 seems like a bargain, but I am not a totals guy.

    LSU/Clemson -  huge bragging rights game.  Huge game for Clemson star's NFL draft stock as well.   My gut tells me that LSU will win by 2 points, but my mind is saying LSU in a rout.  

    Iowa St/Tulsa - should be a back and forth game.  Tulsa plays better football than Iowa St IMO.  Tulsa does not get a lot of chances to play a B12 team.  I thought the Tulsa QB would be a bum and I was totally wrong, he should play a great game.   I liked Iowa St at the start of the year and they delivered a few games for me, but they also disappointed esp late in the year.



    If I have 10 units to wager

    LSU = 3 units
    Tulsa = 3 units
    GTech/USC over 1 unit
    GTech ML  half  unit
    GTech plus points half unit
    VANDY 2 UNITS

    Still a lot of bowls left to play and we can turn it around.


    Try a Clemson/South Carolina/Georgia ML parlay, I don't see how that loses.
     
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    Love The SEC from here on OUT......


    except Florida 



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    Love The SEC from here on OUT......


    except Florida 



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     SO FAR..........

                           SU      ATS  

    ACC (6)            1-1     1-1
    Big East (5)       2-1     2-1
    Big 10 (7)          1-1     2-0
    Big 12 (9)          3-2     2-3
    CUSA (5)           3-1     3-1
    Ind (3)               1-1     1-1
    MAC(7)             2-3     2-3
    MTW (5)           1-4     1-4
    Pac12 (8)          2-3     2-3
    SEC (9)               -     -
    SBelt (4)           1-2     1-2
    WAC (2)          2-0     2-0

    $$  JUST PICK THE WINNER?
     * The SU winner of the game has covered 16 of 19 !

    Favorites are 12-7 SU / 9-10 ATS
    UNDER is 10-8-1

     *source Vegas Insider

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    ONE UNIT PLAYS

    Vandy -7

    smaller

    Tulsa +2
    Clemson +6


    leans/consider


    Vandy / NCSt UNDER....(Vandy -1 / UNDER 58 not bad )
    Clemson / LSU UNDER

    *Tulsa ML...Clemson ML....GTech ML....maybe worth a small shot....IMO Vandy the only (fairly) certain winner

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    12/31 12:00 PM
    239 NCSt
    240 Vandy  -7 / 52
    TV: ESPN, DTV: 206 | PARTLY SUNNY, SOUTHWEST WIND 3-8. KICKOFF TEMP 38, WIND CHILL 34SUN BOWL,

    VALUE
      *slight with NCSt...note 60% on OVER....total dropped

    Travel / SOS / injuries
      *Vandy same city...NCSU 457 miles
      *SOS about the same
      *no key inj

    TRENDS
      *game - dogs are 9-3-1 ATS...UNDER is 8-3...ACC on 3-0/3-0 run
      *NCSt - 7-0 ATS run in bowls..0-3/0-3 vs SEC
      *UV - 0-1/0-1 bowls...only 4 bowls in 58 years.....5-13 ATS as < 7 pt fav..18-8 ATS run all games

    MOTIVATION
      *huge for Vandy here...NCst HC O'Brien fired (maybe the BEST bowl coach)....while Vandy HC Franklin turned down better jobs to stay

    MATCH-UP
      *NCSt with too many erratic efforts to accurately evaluate really...and had too many injuries also...
    They can throw very well if not pressured...running game is weak..D is tough sometimes (shut down Fla St)...but terrible others (755 to Clemson...651 to Miami...allowed 248 rushing to Virg....7 yards/rush to BColl)
    Vandy with just an average offense...can't run that well (shut down at Ole Miss...Mizzou and NW)...QB Rodgers ranks #9 SEC (60%....8.3/att...221/g...13/5)
    Their D actually one of SEC's best...one of nation's top pass D's...can bring heat...and tough on 3rd/RZ (#2 SEC...#1 SEC)...
      *I don't see how NCSt moves the ball at all here
       
    WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN
      *Look for a highly motivated Vandy to convincingly win a low scoring game...giving them their best season since 1915

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    12/31 2:00 PM
    241 Georgia Tech
    242 Southern Cal -7'/64
    TV: CBS | cloudy,30% chance rain, SW WIND 25-30 mph. KICKOFF TEMP 44

    VALUE
      *Line about right

    Travel / SOS / injuries
      *USC 701 miles...GT 1290
      *Trojans tougher SOS (#19 > #45)
      *USC - QB Barkley OUT..***WR M Lee is ???***....WR Farmer...RB McNeal banged up
       GT - (leading tackler)> S Isaiah Johnson likely OUT...st OL + b/u OL ditto...top WR Greene QUIT... best RB Smith bad ankle...P is ?..b/u K is OUT (they use 2)  

    TRENDS
      *game - 9-2 OVER..***dogs are 14-2-1 ATS***...PAC12 teams are 11-2 ATS
       GT - *0-7 SU / 1-6 ATS run in bowls*...6-1 UNDER....if total is 50+
       USC - **7-1 SU/ATS in bowls...av 39pts/g...OVER is 5-1...all games 0-6 ATS away...only covered 19 of last 49 games

    MOTIVATION
      *I'm gonna call it a draw..USC obviously not fired up....but what makes anyone think GT is excited to be spending NYE in El Paso??.....Wreck will be fired up to play USC yes...but Trojans a young team off a 2 year bowl ban..making a no-show a little less likely IMO...
     
    MATCH-UP
      *With winds maybe 25-30 mph (limiting USC passing game)...GT with obvious edge...
    Can Trojans stop them?...yes...as USC run D not bad...dropping Oregon's 425 yards or so they gave up about 3.5/rush..only Zona , Tree and Irish running well..whether they will be disciplined and not be bothered by 30 minutes or so of cut-blocking...that's another question...
    note > GT's O has not fared well in bowls at all...
    Can GT's weak D stop USC?...yes...on occasion they gave up a ton...but after firing their DC after Clemson game..they looked much improved later...(Fla St only 328 yds...Ga 'only' 380..shut down a pretty good Duke O)...Without Barkley and possibly WR Marquise Lee (arguably the nation's top player)...I don't see GT getting run over here...USC with huge ST edge (#14 > #110)  

    WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN
      *Initially I thought this would be a very high scoring game...with Barkley out Trojans should try to establish the run (2 excellent RB's recall)...I look for USC to struggle early ....and eventually win a relatively low scoring game...since it's impossible to gauge the USC level of interest...GT with definite chance of an upset here
    BUT > the winner of this game should cover ATS too....USC could roll if motivated..GT did lose SEVEN games by an average of 15 pts...in the ACC no less
    * BEST TO STAY AWAY FROM THIS ONE

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     SO FAR..........

                           SU      ATS  

    ACC (6)            1-1     1-1
    Big East (5)       2-1     2-1
    Big 10 (7)          1-1     2-0
    Big 12 (9)          3-2     2-3
    CUSA (5)           3-1     3-1
    Ind (3)               1-1     1-1
    MAC(7)             2-3     2-3
    MTW (5)           1-4     1-4
    Pac12 (8)          2-3     2-3
    SEC (9)               -     -
    SBelt (4)           1-2     1-2
    WAC (2)          2-0     2-0

    $$  JUST PICK THE WINNER?
     * The SU winner of the game has covered 16 of 19 !

    Favorites are 12-7 SU / 9-10 ATS
    UNDER is 10-8-1

     *source Vegas Insider

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    ONE UNIT PLAYS

    Vandy -7

    smaller

    Tulsa +2
    Clemson +6


    leans/consider


    Vandy / NCSt UNDER....(Vandy -1 / UNDER 58 not bad )
    Clemson / LSU UNDER

    *Tulsa ML...Clemson ML....GTech ML....maybe worth a small shot....IMO Vandy the only (fairly) certain winner

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    12/31 12:00 PM
    239 NCSt
    240 Vandy  -7 / 52
    TV: ESPN, DTV: 206 | PARTLY SUNNY, SOUTHWEST WIND 3-8. KICKOFF TEMP 38, WIND CHILL 34SUN BOWL,

    VALUE
      *slight with NCSt...note 60% on OVER....total dropped

    Travel / SOS / injuries
      *Vandy same city...NCSU 457 miles
      *SOS about the same
      *no key inj

    TRENDS
      *game - dogs are 9-3-1 ATS...UNDER is 8-3...ACC on 3-0/3-0 run
      *NCSt - 7-0 ATS run in bowls..0-3/0-3 vs SEC
      *UV - 0-1/0-1 bowls...only 4 bowls in 58 years.....5-13 ATS as < 7 pt fav..18-8 ATS run all games

    MOTIVATION
      *huge for Vandy here...NCst HC O'Brien fired (maybe the BEST bowl coach)....while Vandy HC Franklin turned down better jobs to stay

    MATCH-UP
      *NCSt with too many erratic efforts to accurately evaluate really...and had too many injuries also...
    They can throw very well if not pressured...running game is weak..D is tough sometimes (shut down Fla St)...but terrible others (755 to Clemson...651 to Miami...allowed 248 rushing to Virg....7 yards/rush to BColl)
    Vandy with just an average offense...can't run that well (shut down at Ole Miss...Mizzou and NW)...QB Rodgers ranks #9 SEC (60%....8.3/att...221/g...13/5)
    Their D actually one of SEC's best...one of nation's top pass D's...can bring heat...and tough on 3rd/RZ (#2 SEC...#1 SEC)...
      *I don't see how NCSt moves the ball at all here
       
    WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN
      *Look for a highly motivated Vandy to convincingly win a low scoring game...giving them their best season since 1915

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    12/31 2:00 PM
    241 Georgia Tech
    242 Southern Cal -7'/64
    TV: CBS | cloudy,30% chance rain, SW WIND 25-30 mph. KICKOFF TEMP 44

    VALUE
      *Line about right

    Travel / SOS / injuries
      *USC 701 miles...GT 1290
      *Trojans tougher SOS (#19 > #45)
      *USC - QB Barkley OUT..***WR M Lee is ???***....WR Farmer...RB McNeal banged up
       GT - (leading tackler)> S Isaiah Johnson likely OUT...st OL + b/u OL ditto...top WR Greene QUIT... best RB Smith bad ankle...P is ?..b/u K is OUT (they use 2)  

    TRENDS
      *game - 9-2 OVER..***dogs are 14-2-1 ATS***...PAC12 teams are 11-2 ATS
       GT - *0-7 SU / 1-6 ATS run in bowls*...6-1 UNDER....if total is 50+
       USC - **7-1 SU/ATS in bowls...av 39pts/g...OVER is 5-1...all games 0-6 ATS away...only covered 19 of last 49 games

    MOTIVATION
      *I'm gonna call it a draw..USC obviously not fired up....but what makes anyone think GT is excited to be spending NYE in El Paso??.....Wreck will be fired up to play USC yes...but Trojans a young team off a 2 year bowl ban..making a no-show a little less likely IMO...
     
    MATCH-UP
      *With winds maybe 25-30 mph (limiting USC passing game)...GT with obvious edge...
    Can Trojans stop them?...yes...as USC run D not bad...dropping Oregon's 425 yards or so they gave up about 3.5/rush..only Zona , Tree and Irish running well..whether they will be disciplined and not be bothered by 30 minutes or so of cut-blocking...that's another question...
    note > GT's O has not fared well in bowls at all...
    Can GT's weak D stop USC?...yes...on occasion they gave up a ton...but after firing their DC after Clemson game..they looked much improved later...(Fla St only 328 yds...Ga 'only' 380..shut down a pretty good Duke O)...Without Barkley and possibly WR Marquise Lee (arguably the nation's top player)...I don't see GT getting run over here...USC with huge ST edge (#14 > #110)  

    WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN
      *Initially I thought this would be a very high scoring game...with Barkley out Trojans should try to establish the run (2 excellent RB's recall)...I look for USC to struggle early ....and eventually win a relatively low scoring game...since it's impossible to gauge the USC level of interest...GT with definite chance of an upset here
    BUT > the winner of this game should cover ATS too....USC could roll if motivated..GT did lose SEVEN games by an average of 15 pts...in the ACC no less
    * BEST TO STAY AWAY FROM THIS ONE

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    thorpe - Great addition to the thread!  We NEED all hands on deck to get this thing going!!  On your suggested parlay "Try a Clemson/South Carolina/Georgia ML parlay, I don't see how that loses"....  Did you mean to put Clemson in there? I love So Car and Georgia for sure.  For what it is worth, I do think USC hasthe speed to stop the option and they have the speed to properly prepare for it IMHO.  To me, that is generally the key to preparing for the triple option, the speed on your team to replicate it in practice as well as the time to prepare.  I also agree that Barkley being out is not that big of a deal.  GL boys!! 
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    thorpe - Great addition to the thread!  We NEED all hands on deck to get this thing going!!  On your suggested parlay "Try a Clemson/South Carolina/Georgia ML parlay, I don't see how that loses"....  Did you mean to put Clemson in there? I love So Car and Georgia for sure.  For what it is worth, I do think USC hasthe speed to stop the option and they have the speed to properly prepare for it IMHO.  To me, that is generally the key to preparing for the triple option, the speed on your team to replicate it in practice as well as the time to prepare.  I also agree that Barkley being out is not that big of a deal.  GL boys!! 
     
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    12/31 3:30 PM
    243 Iowa State  -2 /51
    244 Tulsa
    TV: ESPN, DTV: 206 | CLOUDY, 60% CHANCE RAIN. SOUTHEAST WIND 5-10. KICKOFF TEMP 43

    VALUE
      * with Tulsa...TU should be favored by 2 or so....note > 77% on over...total dropped

    Travel/SOS/injuries
      *Iowa St 513 miles away...Tulsa 341
      *ISU one of nation's toughest (#9)....TU #106 SOS
      *ISU - top RB Johnson OUT...one time starter now b/u
      B/U DE Kron OUT

    TRENDS
      *game - dog is 7-1 ATS.....**UNDER is 15-5**
      *ISU - HC Rhoads 1-1/1-1 in bowls...5-1 UNDER in bowls
      *TU - 3-1/3-1 in bowls...5-1 UNDER in bowls....**vs B12 > 0-16 / 3-11-2 ATS (but usually OU or Okie St)
     
    MOTIVATION
      *Both fully motivated here...Iowa St lost their bowl LY with a poor effort..and Tulsa lost to Iowa St earlier TY 38-23
     
    MATCH-UP
      *1st time these 2 met week 1...ISU won 38-23 as a 2 pt home dog...out-gaining TU 441-358....winning the battle in the trenches...TU had 3 TO's leading to a pair of easy scores for Iowa St...
    problem for ISU...is that the 3 best players from that game ...AA LB Jake Knott (leading tackler vs Tulsa)...RB Shontrelle Johnson (120 yds rushing)....and QB Steele Jantz (32-45 / 281...2/1) won't play here...(Jantz should be available)
    Tulsa QB Cody Green was extremely erratic early on and is much improved...ISU gave up a ton rushing late in the year and should struggle to stop a powerful TU running game...Tulsa D is among the nation's leaders in sacks/TFL and be a problem for ISU FR QB Richardson..I don't think Iowa St will be able to run much here ....putting too much pressure on the young QB...

         
    WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN
     *First look would have to be to Iowa St...playing a much tougher schedule...and appearing to be a similar team in basically a pick-em game....I just can't see them at 6-6 being fired up to play Tulsa in the Liberty Bowl ....Tulsa looks like the better team to me ...and should be able to win a close lower scoring game

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    12/31 7:30 PM
    245 Clemson
    246 LSU  -6 / 59
    TV: ESPN, DTV: 206 | GEORGIA DOME

    VALUE-
       *with Clemson....maybe....line should be closer to LSU -2 or so.... note> 86% on UNDER...total rising

    Travel/SOS/weather/injuries
      *Clemson 110 miles...LSU 456
      *LSU much tougher (#27 > 67)
      *Clemson - st CB Breeland (should be) out..b/u OL Anthony out...b/u WR (deep threat / 31 yds/catch) Bryant OUT
       LSU - P Brad Wing OUT...b/u RB Blue OUT

    TRENDS
      *game - *******SU winner is 14-0 ATS *************
      *Clem - 1-7 ATS bowl run.....5-9 SU/ATS vs SEC....got slaughtered by WV LY in Orange Bowl....all games 19-6 ATS as <7 pt dog
      * THE HAT top bowl coach (5-2/5-2)....7-2/6-3 as a bowl fav....9-0 UNDER vs good running teams (4.4/rush+)

    MOTIVATION
     *big edge to Clemson...looking to bounce back from LY's gutless performance vs WV and must be tired of getting their azz kicked by SEC...LSU playing for BCS title game only

    MATCH-UP
     *looking at the way S Caro handled Clemson (with b/u QB)....a MOTIVATED LSU crushes Clemson here...as the vulnerable (why?) Clemson D get's eventually run over..
    BUT....after Bama LSU...kinda sorta checked it in...not being able to run at all vs Miss St...Ole Miss...and the mighty Ark D....QB Mettenberger just OK
    LSU pass rush not as ferocious as year's past...and if Ole Miss can get 462....and Ark 458....Clemson (with arguably nation's best playmakers) can surely move it here....Clemson not bad vs run..(weakness is pass D)...possibly putting the pressure to win it on Mettenberger
     
    WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN
      *LSU shows up less than fully focused....Clemson wins a tough/lower scoring game

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    12/31 3:30 PM
    243 Iowa State  -2 /51
    244 Tulsa
    TV: ESPN, DTV: 206 | CLOUDY, 60% CHANCE RAIN. SOUTHEAST WIND 5-10. KICKOFF TEMP 43

    VALUE
      * with Tulsa...TU should be favored by 2 or so....note > 77% on over...total dropped

    Travel/SOS/injuries
      *Iowa St 513 miles away...Tulsa 341
      *ISU one of nation's toughest (#9)....TU #106 SOS
      *ISU - top RB Johnson OUT...one time starter now b/u
      B/U DE Kron OUT

    TRENDS
      *game - dog is 7-1 ATS.....**UNDER is 15-5**
      *ISU - HC Rhoads 1-1/1-1 in bowls...5-1 UNDER in bowls
      *TU - 3-1/3-1 in bowls...5-1 UNDER in bowls....**vs B12 > 0-16 / 3-11-2 ATS (but usually OU or Okie St)
     
    MOTIVATION
      *Both fully motivated here...Iowa St lost their bowl LY with a poor effort..and Tulsa lost to Iowa St earlier TY 38-23
     
    MATCH-UP
      *1st time these 2 met week 1...ISU won 38-23 as a 2 pt home dog...out-gaining TU 441-358....winning the battle in the trenches...TU had 3 TO's leading to a pair of easy scores for Iowa St...
    problem for ISU...is that the 3 best players from that game ...AA LB Jake Knott (leading tackler vs Tulsa)...RB Shontrelle Johnson (120 yds rushing)....and QB Steele Jantz (32-45 / 281...2/1) won't play here...(Jantz should be available)
    Tulsa QB Cody Green was extremely erratic early on and is much improved...ISU gave up a ton rushing late in the year and should struggle to stop a powerful TU running game...Tulsa D is among the nation's leaders in sacks/TFL and be a problem for ISU FR QB Richardson..I don't think Iowa St will be able to run much here ....putting too much pressure on the young QB...

         
    WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN
     *First look would have to be to Iowa St...playing a much tougher schedule...and appearing to be a similar team in basically a pick-em game....I just can't see them at 6-6 being fired up to play Tulsa in the Liberty Bowl ....Tulsa looks like the better team to me ...and should be able to win a close lower scoring game

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    12/31 7:30 PM
    245 Clemson
    246 LSU  -6 / 59
    TV: ESPN, DTV: 206 | GEORGIA DOME

    VALUE-
       *with Clemson....maybe....line should be closer to LSU -2 or so.... note> 86% on UNDER...total rising

    Travel/SOS/weather/injuries
      *Clemson 110 miles...LSU 456
      *LSU much tougher (#27 > 67)
      *Clemson - st CB Breeland (should be) out..b/u OL Anthony out...b/u WR (deep threat / 31 yds/catch) Bryant OUT
       LSU - P Brad Wing OUT...b/u RB Blue OUT

    TRENDS
      *game - *******SU winner is 14-0 ATS *************
      *Clem - 1-7 ATS bowl run.....5-9 SU/ATS vs SEC....got slaughtered by WV LY in Orange Bowl....all games 19-6 ATS as <7 pt dog
      * THE HAT top bowl coach (5-2/5-2)....7-2/6-3 as a bowl fav....9-0 UNDER vs good running teams (4.4/rush+)

    MOTIVATION
     *big edge to Clemson...looking to bounce back from LY's gutless performance vs WV and must be tired of getting their azz kicked by SEC...LSU playing for BCS title game only

    MATCH-UP
     *looking at the way S Caro handled Clemson (with b/u QB)....a MOTIVATED LSU crushes Clemson here...as the vulnerable (why?) Clemson D get's eventually run over..
    BUT....after Bama LSU...kinda sorta checked it in...not being able to run at all vs Miss St...Ole Miss...and the mighty Ark D....QB Mettenberger just OK
    LSU pass rush not as ferocious as year's past...and if Ole Miss can get 462....and Ark 458....Clemson (with arguably nation's best playmakers) can surely move it here....Clemson not bad vs run..(weakness is pass D)...possibly putting the pressure to win it on Mettenberger
     
    WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN
      *LSU shows up less than fully focused....Clemson wins a tough/lower scoring game

    BOL boys.......................
     
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    thanks boys...............
      *appreciate not getting blasted too.....

    it's more painful to give bad advice....than to lose bets really.........(I'm a strange guy what can I say)
      
    IMO there are very few bets that make sense really....most of my stuff is in-game or halftime
      *what I tried to do was give a recommendation on the side and total for each game..which was interpreted by many as 2 plays...(no).....so I'll switch back to old style

    here's what I like the rest of the way.........

    SOLID
      *NW...Kan St...Kent St...N Dame

    probably
      *S Caro....Wisky...Ole Miss

    maybe......OU...Georgia

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    thanks boys...............
      *appreciate not getting blasted too.....

    it's more painful to give bad advice....than to lose bets really.........(I'm a strange guy what can I say)
      
    IMO there are very few bets that make sense really....most of my stuff is in-game or halftime
      *what I tried to do was give a recommendation on the side and total for each game..which was interpreted by many as 2 plays...(no).....so I'll switch back to old style

    here's what I like the rest of the way.........

    SOLID
      *NW...Kan St...Kent St...N Dame

    probably
      *S Caro....Wisky...Ole Miss

    maybe......OU...Georgia

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