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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2012 - 1:13 AM ET #26

    Thanks boys.......

     *I'll post a breakdown of this week's games sometime tomorrow ....instead of all at once.....as lines won't move much anyway......

    In last 20 years....only 19 or so (of around 525 games)
    have seen line movements of more than 4 points
      *according to Vegas Insider........BTW...the team that the line moved 'toward'....is 12-6-1 ATS

    note > I'm sure they're using an opening line once it has 'settled'.....disregarding crazy openers at small books/casinos trying to drum up some biz....'cuz it seems like many more than 19.......
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    THORPE.....you better watch out fading USC ....

    *tough one to handicap....overriding factor here ?

    Ga Tech STINKS....and plays poorly in bowls..(0-7 SU / 1-6 ATS run)......with a weak pass D and poor ST.....
      * and vs good teams > GT #102 D.....#120 on 3rd down
    $$ ....the smart thing to do ....when both teams motivation is in question...might be to play the OVER (this case)...and forget it...which is what I'll prob do....

    But with Trojans out of a bowl the last 2 yrs....and this being Barkley's last game....I view this as a going away party kinda thing....if their 'bubble' had been burst LATE .....instead of EARLY (week 3)....it would be different

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    BTW......I've got some pretty good technical numbers for each game and for each team...(will post with each game breakdown)....here 9 of last 11 Sun Bowls have gone OVER......the DOG....has covered 14 of last 16......cough.......BUT the Pac12 is 11-2-1 ATS here

    *Trojans are 7-1 SU/ATS in bowls.....and 5-1 OVER.....av 39 pts/g.....LK a key part of those teams


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    Thanks boys.......

     *I'll post a breakdown of this week's games sometime tomorrow ....instead of all at once.....as lines won't move much anyway......

    In last 20 years....only 19 or so (of around 525 games)
    have seen line movements of more than 4 points
      *according to Vegas Insider........BTW...the team that the line moved 'toward'....is 12-6-1 ATS

    note > I'm sure they're using an opening line once it has 'settled'.....disregarding crazy openers at small books/casinos trying to drum up some biz....'cuz it seems like many more than 19.......
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    THORPE.....you better watch out fading USC ....

    *tough one to handicap....overriding factor here ?

    Ga Tech STINKS....and plays poorly in bowls..(0-7 SU / 1-6 ATS run)......with a weak pass D and poor ST.....
      * and vs good teams > GT #102 D.....#120 on 3rd down
    $$ ....the smart thing to do ....when both teams motivation is in question...might be to play the OVER (this case)...and forget it...which is what I'll prob do....

    But with Trojans out of a bowl the last 2 yrs....and this being Barkley's last game....I view this as a going away party kinda thing....if their 'bubble' had been burst LATE .....instead of EARLY (week 3)....it would be different

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    BTW......I've got some pretty good technical numbers for each game and for each team...(will post with each game breakdown)....here 9 of last 11 Sun Bowls have gone OVER......the DOG....has covered 14 of last 16......cough.......BUT the Pac12 is 11-2-1 ATS here

    *Trojans are 7-1 SU/ATS in bowls.....and 5-1 OVER.....av 39 pts/g.....LK a key part of those teams


     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2012 - 2:10 AM ET #27

    Gotta play my annual bowl contest before christmas (due this saturday) and would love to get some of your plays or leans early--maybe without a big write-up.  hate to ask and if you're too busy, I definitely understand.  
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    Gotta play my annual bowl contest before christmas (due this saturday) and would love to get some of your plays or leans early--maybe without a big write-up.  hate to ask and if you're too busy, I definitely understand.  
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2012 - 2:35 AM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by Skipster:

    Gotta play my annual bowl contest before christmas (due this saturday) and would love to get some of your plays or leans early--maybe without a big write-up.  hate to ask and if you're too busy, I definitely understand.  


    sure man.....I can post notes/leans.....on each game Wed or Thurs at the latest....maybe a good way to stimulate some actual game discussion around here....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skipster:

    Gotta play my annual bowl contest before christmas (due this saturday) and would love to get some of your plays or leans early--maybe without a big write-up.  hate to ask and if you're too busy, I definitely understand.  


    sure man.....I can post notes/leans.....on each game Wed or Thurs at the latest....maybe a good way to stimulate some actual game discussion around here....
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2012 - 3:44 AM ET #29

    Now this is research, this is info, this is valuable not ridiculous fonts and colors and cell phone wagers and other nonsense.

    This is what I call real handicapping.
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    Now this is research, this is info, this is valuable not ridiculous fonts and colors and cell phone wagers and other nonsense.

    This is what I call real handicapping.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2012 - 3:59 AM ET #30

    Best info yet!! Thanks and may we all get a piece of the cash flow. Bookies need to learn who not to f$%&# with during bowl season.....
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    Best info yet!! Thanks and may we all get a piece of the cash flow. Bookies need to learn who not to f$%&# with during bowl season.....
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2012 - 9:16 AM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:

     
    THORPE.....you better watch out fading USC ....

    *tough one to handicap....overriding factor here ?

    Ga Tech STINKS....and plays poorly in bowls..(0-7 SU / 1-6 ATS run)......with a weak pass D and poor ST.....
      * and vs good teams > GT #102 D.....#120 on 3rd down
    $$ ....the smart thing to do ....when both teams motivation is in question...might be to play the OVER (this case)...and forget it...which is what I'll prob do....

    But with Trojans out of a bowl the last 2 yrs....and this being Barkley's last game....I view this as a going away party kinda thing....if their 'bubble' had been burst LATE .....instead of EARLY (week 3)....it would be different

    --------------------------------------------------------------------

    BTW......I've got some pretty good technical numbers for each game and for each team...(will post with each game breakdown)....here 9 of last 11 Sun Bowls have gone OVER......the DOG....has covered 14 of last 16......cough.......BUT the Pac12 is 11-2-1 ATS here

    *Trojans are 7-1 SU/ATS in bowls.....and 5-1 OVER.....av 39 pts/g.....LK a key part of those teams



    Game is probably going to be a pass for me, or GTech small.  I know USC is the better team on paper.

    You got any other examples of teams that don't want to be in the bowl their in?  Maybe Rutgers for losing the BE?  Not too many examles of that this year, IMO.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:

     
    THORPE.....you better watch out fading USC ....

    *tough one to handicap....overriding factor here ?

    Ga Tech STINKS....and plays poorly in bowls..(0-7 SU / 1-6 ATS run)......with a weak pass D and poor ST.....
      * and vs good teams > GT #102 D.....#120 on 3rd down
    $$ ....the smart thing to do ....when both teams motivation is in question...might be to play the OVER (this case)...and forget it...which is what I'll prob do....

    But with Trojans out of a bowl the last 2 yrs....and this being Barkley's last game....I view this as a going away party kinda thing....if their 'bubble' had been burst LATE .....instead of EARLY (week 3)....it would be different

    --------------------------------------------------------------------

    BTW......I've got some pretty good technical numbers for each game and for each team...(will post with each game breakdown)....here 9 of last 11 Sun Bowls have gone OVER......the DOG....has covered 14 of last 16......cough.......BUT the Pac12 is 11-2-1 ATS here

    *Trojans are 7-1 SU/ATS in bowls.....and 5-1 OVER.....av 39 pts/g.....LK a key part of those teams



    Game is probably going to be a pass for me, or GTech small.  I know USC is the better team on paper.

    You got any other examples of teams that don't want to be in the bowl their in?  Maybe Rutgers for losing the BE?  Not too many examles of that this year, IMO.


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:


    Game is probably going to be a pass for me, or GTech small.  I know USC is the better team on paper.

    You got any other examples of teams that don't want to be in the bowl their in?  Maybe Rutgers for losing the BE?  Not too many examles of that this year, IMO.



    On second thought, the dog is 14-2 in this bowl and the favorite is not motivated and I am getting more than a TD?  GTech did play their best football of the year the last half of football they played all year, so maybe they have some momentum into this game.  USC's defensive line has not been good, and USC has not faced any option in 5 years.

    Stopping the option takes some familiarity with the option

    If you look into G Tech's season, some of the teams that they lost had palyed vs the option recently.

    BYU - play Air Force every year
    MTSU- played G Tech in 2011
    VA Tech  - played G Tech in 2011
    Clemson - played G Tech in 2011
    Georgia - - played G Tech in 2011 and played Ge Southern week before

    The last loss was a close loss to Flor St, but FLor St has a much better defense (especially the line) than USC.

    It would not surprise if USC had to come back late in the game like Arizona to win this game,

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    Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:


    Game is probably going to be a pass for me, or GTech small.  I know USC is the better team on paper.

    You got any other examples of teams that don't want to be in the bowl their in?  Maybe Rutgers for losing the BE?  Not too many examles of that this year, IMO.



    On second thought, the dog is 14-2 in this bowl and the favorite is not motivated and I am getting more than a TD?  GTech did play their best football of the year the last half of football they played all year, so maybe they have some momentum into this game.  USC's defensive line has not been good, and USC has not faced any option in 5 years.

    Stopping the option takes some familiarity with the option

    If you look into G Tech's season, some of the teams that they lost had palyed vs the option recently.

    BYU - play Air Force every year
    MTSU- played G Tech in 2011
    VA Tech  - played G Tech in 2011
    Clemson - played G Tech in 2011
    Georgia - - played G Tech in 2011 and played Ge Southern week before

    The last loss was a close loss to Flor St, but FLor St has a much better defense (especially the line) than USC.

    It would not surprise if USC had to come back late in the game like Arizona to win this game,

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:


    Game is probably going to be a pass for me, or GTech small.  I know USC is the better team on paper.

    You got any other examples of teams that don't want to be in the bowl their in?  Maybe Rutgers for losing the BE?  Not too many examles of that this year, IMO.




    impossible to tell who's happy / who's not....
    but based on .....where did they EXPECT to be?....when season began....here's a rough list
      *keeping in mind we should GUESS...as little as possible....not saying their play will (necessarily) suffer....just their task a little tougher maybe


    YES


    Notre Dame
    Alabama
    N Illinois
    Louisville
    Kent St...coach staying to coach this one...last bowl '71
    Duke
    Ball St.....1st since '08
    Rice...3rd in 50 years
    ULM.....1st ever bowl
    Vandy
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    NW...last W in 1948
    CMich
    WKU*.....but no HC
    SJSU*...ditto
    BGreen
    UCLA
    Baylor
    Minny
    Navy
    Syracuse
    Oreg St
    Tulsa
    Clemson
    Wisky
    Tree
    Florida
    Texas A&M

    SHOULD BE / MAYBE

    BYU
    SDSU
    ECaro
    ULL
    Boise....3rd st time in LV...only 4 losses in 3 years
    Wash
    SMU
    Cinn
    Wash
    Ohio
    Air Force...bad year + back in FW for 4th time in 6 years...
    Ariz St
    TCU
    Mich St
    NC St
    GTech
    Ole Miss
    Pitt
    Iowa St
    Purdue
    Miss St
    Michigan
    S Caro
    Fla St
    Kan St
    Oregon
    Ark St

    NO

    UCF...appealed probation thinking BCS buster....now playing Ball St in a large toilet
    Rutgers....was thinking BCS
    VTech...off 6-6 might want to finish with winning record...or when is this gonna end?
    TTech...Tommy 'Tooberville' a helluva guy
    LSU....but Les usually has them ready for these non-BCS bowls
    Nebraska...Rose Bowl plans already made...obviously
    OU...not where they wanted to be...but nice consolation vs Aggies


    HELL NO

    W Virg...thinking Heisman/BCS at one point....now freezing azz off vs a BE team?
    TEXAS...Mack does OK in these bowls...but playing in a crap stadium 75 miles from home not what Horns/fans want
    USC...Trojans way too cool to be hangin' out in El Paso on NY's eve....
    Okie St...from Fiesta to 'Heart of Dallas' Bowl?....vs 6-6 Purdue wtf
    Georgia...prolly 3rd-4th best team in nation...now playing B10 team that lost by 40 to 5 loss Wisky?



     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:


    Game is probably going to be a pass for me, or GTech small.  I know USC is the better team on paper.

    You got any other examples of teams that don't want to be in the bowl their in?  Maybe Rutgers for losing the BE?  Not too many examles of that this year, IMO.




    impossible to tell who's happy / who's not....
    but based on .....where did they EXPECT to be?....when season began....here's a rough list
      *keeping in mind we should GUESS...as little as possible....not saying their play will (necessarily) suffer....just their task a little tougher maybe


    YES


    Notre Dame
    Alabama
    N Illinois
    Louisville
    Kent St...coach staying to coach this one...last bowl '71
    Duke
    Ball St.....1st since '08
    Rice...3rd in 50 years
    ULM.....1st ever bowl
    Vandy
    -------------------------------
    NW...last W in 1948
    CMich
    WKU*.....but no HC
    SJSU*...ditto
    BGreen
    UCLA
    Baylor
    Minny
    Navy
    Syracuse
    Oreg St
    Tulsa
    Clemson
    Wisky
    Tree
    Florida
    Texas A&M

    SHOULD BE / MAYBE

    BYU
    SDSU
    ECaro
    ULL
    Boise....3rd st time in LV...only 4 losses in 3 years
    Wash
    SMU
    Cinn
    Wash
    Ohio
    Air Force...bad year + back in FW for 4th time in 6 years...
    Ariz St
    TCU
    Mich St
    NC St
    GTech
    Ole Miss
    Pitt
    Iowa St
    Purdue
    Miss St
    Michigan
    S Caro
    Fla St
    Kan St
    Oregon
    Ark St

    NO

    UCF...appealed probation thinking BCS buster....now playing Ball St in a large toilet
    Rutgers....was thinking BCS
    VTech...off 6-6 might want to finish with winning record...or when is this gonna end?
    TTech...Tommy 'Tooberville' a helluva guy
    LSU....but Les usually has them ready for these non-BCS bowls
    Nebraska...Rose Bowl plans already made...obviously
    OU...not where they wanted to be...but nice consolation vs Aggies


    HELL NO

    W Virg...thinking Heisman/BCS at one point....now freezing azz off vs a BE team?
    TEXAS...Mack does OK in these bowls...but playing in a crap stadium 75 miles from home not what Horns/fans want
    USC...Trojans way too cool to be hangin' out in El Paso on NY's eve....
    Okie St...from Fiesta to 'Heart of Dallas' Bowl?....vs 6-6 Purdue wtf
    Georgia...prolly 3rd-4th best team in nation...now playing B10 team that lost by 40 to 5 loss Wisky?



     
     
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    CONFERENCE BOWL NOTES

    MTW

      *LY only losing record since '03 (2-3).....5-0 OVER LY
      *15-4 OVER as dog

    good?...8-1 ATS when DD spread (5-0 if fav / 3-1 dog)
            vs BCS tms - 7-0 /6-1
            vs CUSA - 5-1/5-1

    ------------------------------------------------------------------

    SEC

      *if total 55+...UNDER is 20-8-1 ATS
    good?...in BCS - 13-3/12-4
            vs B12 - 7-0/7-0...(15-4 ATS run)

    bad?...vs BE -1-8 / 1-8...WTF
           vs ACC-1-5 ATS...dogs 10-3-1
           12/25 > 1/1...3-6 / 2-7
    -------------------------------------------------------------------

    Pac12

      *6-12/ 8-10 run
    good?...as 6+ dogs- 15-3 ATS
            vs B10 - 16-4-1 ATS
            in BCS- 11-6/13-4 !!  

    bad?...vs WAC- 4-8 / 0-11
            6+ fav - 8-21-1 ATS
           < 12/25 - 2-7/2-7
    -------------------------------------------------------------------

    ACC

      *3-10/5-7-1 run
       
    good?...vs SEC- 4-2/5-1
            vs BE...13-9/15-6-1

    bad?...vs Pac12 - 0-5/1-4
            vs B12 - 2-6/2-6
            in BCS - 1-12 SU / 3-9-1
               note UNDER is 10-3
    ------------------------------------------------------------------

    BIG EAST


      *12-6/12/6 run

    good?..vs SEC 8-1/8-1
           vs B12 - 6-1/6-1
           as <6 fav - 9-2/8-3

    bad?...as 6+ dog - 3-16/4-15
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------

    BIG 10

      *fav is 16-2/13-4-1 !!!!
      *4-6/3-6-1 run

    good?...in BCS - 4-3/5-1-1
            short dog < 3 -9-5/9-5

    bad?...as 6+ fav - 9-8/2-15 !!
           vs P12 - 9-15/5-18-1
    -------------------------------------------------------------------

    BIG 12

      *6-2/5-3 LY

    good?...vs P12 - 9-4/8-5
            ACC - 7-3/8-2
            B10 - 13-3/7-9

    bad?...in BCS -7-9/4-12
           <10 pt dog - 2-14/3-13
           vs SEC - 0-7/0-7
           vs BE - 1-6/1-6
           all Jan bowls - 11-15/6-19
    ---------------------------------------------------------------

    CUSA

      *7-0 UNDER.....dogs 10-7/11-5-1

    good?...as 7+ dog - 11-4-1 ATS
           vs MAC - 6-0/6-0 (fav is 11-1 ATS)
           vs WAC - 8-4/9-2-1 (dogs 11-1-1)
    bad?....vs MTW - 1-5/1-5

    ------------------------------------------------------------------


    MAC

      *9-19/9-18-1 run...but 6-3/5-3-1 lately)
     
    good?...< 12/25 - 8-3/8-3

    bad?...> 12/25 - 4-13/2-14-1
           vs BE - 0-6/1-5
           vs CUSA - 0-6/0-6
           as dog 5-20/7-17-1
    ------------------------------------------------------------------

    BELT

      *7-7/8-5
      *dogs are 8-1-1
      *when total 55+ - 8-2 OVER
      *NOrl Bowl - 7-0 OVER

    good?...6-1 as dog

    bad?...0-3 when fav

    --------------------------------------------------------------------

    WAC

      *6-14/7-12-1 run
      *total < 48 - 11-4 UNDER
      *vs MTW / CUSA - dogs 19-3-1 ATS

    good?...vs B12/P12 - 10-1 ATS....wtf

    bad?...vs CUSA - 2-9-1 ATS
           < 12/25 - 1-12/3-9-1





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    CONFERENCE BOWL NOTES

    MTW

      *LY only losing record since '03 (2-3).....5-0 OVER LY
      *15-4 OVER as dog

    good?...8-1 ATS when DD spread (5-0 if fav / 3-1 dog)
            vs BCS tms - 7-0 /6-1
            vs CUSA - 5-1/5-1

    ------------------------------------------------------------------

    SEC

      *if total 55+...UNDER is 20-8-1 ATS
    good?...in BCS - 13-3/12-4
            vs B12 - 7-0/7-0...(15-4 ATS run)

    bad?...vs BE -1-8 / 1-8...WTF
           vs ACC-1-5 ATS...dogs 10-3-1
           12/25 > 1/1...3-6 / 2-7
    -------------------------------------------------------------------

    Pac12

      *6-12/ 8-10 run
    good?...as 6+ dogs- 15-3 ATS
            vs B10 - 16-4-1 ATS
            in BCS- 11-6/13-4 !!  

    bad?...vs WAC- 4-8 / 0-11
            6+ fav - 8-21-1 ATS
           < 12/25 - 2-7/2-7
    -------------------------------------------------------------------

    ACC

      *3-10/5-7-1 run
       
    good?...vs SEC- 4-2/5-1
            vs BE...13-9/15-6-1

    bad?...vs Pac12 - 0-5/1-4
            vs B12 - 2-6/2-6
            in BCS - 1-12 SU / 3-9-1
               note UNDER is 10-3
    ------------------------------------------------------------------

    BIG EAST


      *12-6/12/6 run

    good?..vs SEC 8-1/8-1
           vs B12 - 6-1/6-1
           as <6 fav - 9-2/8-3

    bad?...as 6+ dog - 3-16/4-15
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------

    BIG 10

      *fav is 16-2/13-4-1 !!!!
      *4-6/3-6-1 run

    good?...in BCS - 4-3/5-1-1
            short dog < 3 -9-5/9-5

    bad?...as 6+ fav - 9-8/2-15 !!
           vs P12 - 9-15/5-18-1
    -------------------------------------------------------------------

    BIG 12

      *6-2/5-3 LY

    good?...vs P12 - 9-4/8-5
            ACC - 7-3/8-2
            B10 - 13-3/7-9

    bad?...in BCS -7-9/4-12
           <10 pt dog - 2-14/3-13
           vs SEC - 0-7/0-7
           vs BE - 1-6/1-6
           all Jan bowls - 11-15/6-19
    ---------------------------------------------------------------

    CUSA

      *7-0 UNDER.....dogs 10-7/11-5-1

    good?...as 7+ dog - 11-4-1 ATS
           vs MAC - 6-0/6-0 (fav is 11-1 ATS)
           vs WAC - 8-4/9-2-1 (dogs 11-1-1)
    bad?....vs MTW - 1-5/1-5

    ------------------------------------------------------------------


    MAC

      *9-19/9-18-1 run...but 6-3/5-3-1 lately)
     
    good?...< 12/25 - 8-3/8-3

    bad?...> 12/25 - 4-13/2-14-1
           vs BE - 0-6/1-5
           vs CUSA - 0-6/0-6
           as dog 5-20/7-17-1
    ------------------------------------------------------------------

    BELT

      *7-7/8-5
      *dogs are 8-1-1
      *when total 55+ - 8-2 OVER
      *NOrl Bowl - 7-0 OVER

    good?...6-1 as dog

    bad?...0-3 when fav

    --------------------------------------------------------------------

    WAC

      *6-14/7-12-1 run
      *total < 48 - 11-4 UNDER
      *vs MTW / CUSA - dogs 19-3-1 ATS

    good?...vs B12/P12 - 10-1 ATS....wtf

    bad?...vs CUSA - 2-9-1 ATS
           < 12/25 - 1-12/3-9-1





     
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    conference stuff from Vegas Insider...Gold Sheet....Steele ++++

    often overlooked....some of these trends too strong to be ignored...usually valuable as bowls progress....but maybe a good idea to be aware of these before you bet
      *not 'play on'....or 'fade' a team directly because of a trend....but to help if you are undecided....or simply leaning one way or another....... 
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    conference stuff from Vegas Insider...Gold Sheet....Steele ++++

    often overlooked....some of these trends too strong to be ignored...usually valuable as bowls progress....but maybe a good idea to be aware of these before you bet
      *not 'play on'....or 'fade' a team directly because of a trend....but to help if you are undecided....or simply leaning one way or another....... 
     
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    forgot....
    1st # is SU record......2nd is ATS

    example from Pac 12........

    vs WAC- 4-8 / 0-11  > vs WAC teams they have won 4 of 12....and covered NONE.................... wtf

    6+ fav - 8-21-1 ATS >  as a favorite of 6 or more.... they have covered only 8 of 30 games...........holy crap

    < 12/25 - 2-7/2-7
    > in games before Christmas Day....they have won 2 and lost 7.....and only covering 2 as well
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    forgot....
    1st # is SU record......2nd is ATS

    example from Pac 12........

    vs WAC- 4-8 / 0-11  > vs WAC teams they have won 4 of 12....and covered NONE.................... wtf

    6+ fav - 8-21-1 ATS >  as a favorite of 6 or more.... they have covered only 8 of 30 games...........holy crap

    < 12/25 - 2-7/2-7
    > in games before Christmas Day....they have won 2 and lost 7.....and only covering 2 as well
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:


    On second thought, the dog is 14-2 in this bowl and the favorite is not motivated and I am getting more than a TD?  GTech did play their best football of the year the last half of football they played all year, so maybe they have some momentum into this game.  USC's defensive line has not been good, and USC has not faced any option in 5 years.

    Stopping the option takes some familiarity with the option

    If you look into G Tech's season, some of the teams that they lost had palyed vs the option recently.

    BYU - play Air Force every year
    MTSU- played G Tech in 2011
    VA Tech  - played G Tech in 2011
    Clemson - played G Tech in 2011
    Georgia - - played G Tech in 2011 and played Ge Southern week before

    The last loss was a close loss to Flor St, but FLor St has a much better defense (especially the line) than USC.

    It would not surprise if USC had to come back late in the game like Arizona to win this game,



    above numbers clearly show USC is the play!.....
    or maybe not.....

    naw I wouldn't recommend actually putting hard earned cash on USC for sure...just saying watch out if you like GT that's all.....

    I would think GT get's out to an early lead.....USC comes back and wins it....don't see how either team stops the other....seems like games are high scoring when neither is particularly fired up....esp when both are offensive teams........
      *I like OVER for the game.....and might play USC in-game or at halftime....GT will have NO ANSWER for Woods/Lee

    *certainly no shocker if we see Lane/company walking off the field.....after giving up 400 rushing.....with that WTF just happened?....how did we lose this one?...look 
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    On second thought, the dog is 14-2 in this bowl and the favorite is not motivated and I am getting more than a TD?  GTech did play their best football of the year the last half of football they played all year, so maybe they have some momentum into this game.  USC's defensive line has not been good, and USC has not faced any option in 5 years.

    Stopping the option takes some familiarity with the option

    If you look into G Tech's season, some of the teams that they lost had palyed vs the option recently.

    BYU - play Air Force every year
    MTSU- played G Tech in 2011
    VA Tech  - played G Tech in 2011
    Clemson - played G Tech in 2011
    Georgia - - played G Tech in 2011 and played Ge Southern week before

    The last loss was a close loss to Flor St, but FLor St has a much better defense (especially the line) than USC.

    It would not surprise if USC had to come back late in the game like Arizona to win this game,



    above numbers clearly show USC is the play!.....
    or maybe not.....

    naw I wouldn't recommend actually putting hard earned cash on USC for sure...just saying watch out if you like GT that's all.....

    I would think GT get's out to an early lead.....USC comes back and wins it....don't see how either team stops the other....seems like games are high scoring when neither is particularly fired up....esp when both are offensive teams........
      *I like OVER for the game.....and might play USC in-game or at halftime....GT will have NO ANSWER for Woods/Lee

    *certainly no shocker if we see Lane/company walking off the field.....after giving up 400 rushing.....with that WTF just happened?....how did we lose this one?...look 
     
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     great stuff

     

     

    GL bookie

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     great stuff

     

     

    GL bookie

     
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    Bookie, This information is outstanding!!!!
    Thank you for taking the time to put
    this together for all to use.

    Best of Luck this Bowl season.

    PS  I left you a message on your 5 dimes bowl thread.

    What's your opinion of the BYU / SDSU matchup ?

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    Bookie, This information is outstanding!!!!
    Thank you for taking the time to put
    this together for all to use.

    Best of Luck this Bowl season.

    PS  I left you a message on your 5 dimes bowl thread.

    What's your opinion of the BYU / SDSU matchup ?

    thanks Bud.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36:

    Bookie, This information is outstanding!!!!
    Thank you for taking the time to put
    this together for all to use.

    Best of Luck this Bowl season.

    PS  I left you a message on your 5 dimes bowl thread.

    What's your opinion of the BYU / SDSU matchup ?

    thanks Bud.


    sorry forgot about that one.............

    *no strong opinion on that one.....I would lean SDSU and the UNDER....but kinda tough to go against BYU in a bowl game...

    good man WG.......... BOL ............
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    Bookie, This information is outstanding!!!!
    Thank you for taking the time to put
    this together for all to use.

    Best of Luck this Bowl season.

    PS  I left you a message on your 5 dimes bowl thread.

    What's your opinion of the BYU / SDSU matchup ?

    thanks Bud.


    sorry forgot about that one.............

    *no strong opinion on that one.....I would lean SDSU and the UNDER....but kinda tough to go against BYU in a bowl game...

    good man WG.......... BOL ............
     
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    Thanks Bookie, I like the under as well.
    My thought is since BYU 's players don't
    drink or smoke, and a lot of them are married,
    they can't get into TOO much trouble in SD.
    However, they probably stopped in Vegas on
    the way. So I'm betting on a bunch of players
    that are now "broke " and mad as HELL about it.




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    Thanks Bookie, I like the under as well.
    My thought is since BYU 's players don't
    drink or smoke, and a lot of them are married,
    they can't get into TOO much trouble in SD.
    However, they probably stopped in Vegas on
    the way. So I'm betting on a bunch of players
    that are now "broke " and mad as HELL about it.




     
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    Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36:

    Thanks Bookie, I like the under as well.
    My thought is since BYU 's players don't
    drink or smoke, and a lot of them are married,
    they can't get into TOO much trouble in SD.
    However, they probably stopped in Vegas on
    the way. So I'm betting on a bunch of players
    that are now "broke " and mad as HELL about it.






    nope...no gambling either.............
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    Thanks Bookie, I like the under as well.
    My thought is since BYU 's players don't
    drink or smoke, and a lot of them are married,
    they can't get into TOO much trouble in SD.
    However, they probably stopped in Vegas on
    the way. So I'm betting on a bunch of players
    that are now "broke " and mad as HELL about it.






    nope...no gambling either.............
     
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    I guess I'll have to count on their run defense then
    and hope Riley Nelson doesn't throw it " up for
    grabs' too many times.


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    I guess I'll have to count on their run defense then
    and hope Riley Nelson doesn't throw it " up for
    grabs' too many times.


     
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    bookie  you are  the best  of  all !!!!!!!

    merci de toutes ces informations   !!!!

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    merci de toutes ces informations   !!!!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:



    nope...no gambling either.............


    Hey Bookie, Why do you think they built those
    casinos and liquor stores in Mesquite.?
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    nope...no gambling either.............


    Hey Bookie, Why do you think they built those
    casinos and liquor stores in Mesquite.?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36:



    Hey Bookie, Why do you think they built those
    casinos and liquor stores in Mesquite.?


    same reason where I live (Dallas / Fort Worth, TX)....
    has one of the highest concentrations of churches....and strip clubs in the country ...
      *as is true all over the south it seems

    you see a bunch of churches....a liquor store and whorehouse is right around the corner for sure....
     
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    Hey Bookie, Why do you think they built those
    casinos and liquor stores in Mesquite.?


    same reason where I live (Dallas / Fort Worth, TX)....
    has one of the highest concentrations of churches....and strip clubs in the country ...
      *as is true all over the south it seems

    you see a bunch of churches....a liquor store and whorehouse is right around the corner for sure....
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mafioso:

    Now this is research, this is info, this is valuable not ridiculous fonts and colors and cell phone wagers and other nonsense.


    This is what I call real handicapping.

    95% of you posts are spent talking about me .....

    Get off the computer and seek Help 

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    Now this is research, this is info, this is valuable not ridiculous fonts and colors and cell phone wagers and other nonsense.


    This is what I call real handicapping.

    95% of you posts are spent talking about me .....

    Get off the computer and seek Help 

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    Love this thread 

    Bookie thanks Brother for your Year Long Help ....

    Best of Luck in the Bowls brother
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    Love this thread 

    Bookie thanks Brother for your Year Long Help ....

    Best of Luck in the Bowls brother
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:


    95% of you posts are spent talking about me .....

    Get off the computer and seek Help 

    please 



    Double, keep up the good work, the revenues generated by the
    info you and Bookie share has paid for my cell phone bill more
    more than once.

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    95% of you posts are spent talking about me .....

    Get off the computer and seek Help 

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    Double, keep up the good work, the revenues generated by the
    info you and Bookie share has paid for my cell phone bill more
    more than once.

     
     
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    Double, keep up the good work, the revenues generated by the
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