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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 1:03 PM ET #251

    Ok guys there seems to be a lot of hectic confusion this morning. I have been busy and couldn't get much done yesterday and I missed any 12pm games today. I'll post what I have (including 12pm games for reference). 

    Texas HDT
    Duke HFT
    Washington HFA
    Pittsburgh HFA
    Oklahoma St. HDT
    Marshall RDT
    Bowling Green HFA (2 pt difference but away so play it)
    Texas A&M HFN
    St. John's HDT
    TCU HFT
    Cal St. Fullerton RFA
    Duquesne RDT
    IUPUI RDN
    Montana St. HDA
    Texas Tech HDT
    Maryland RDA
    San Diego St. HFT
    Oakland RDT
    William & Mary HDA (2 pt difference but Away so play it)
    Santa Clara HDT
    Northern Arizona RDT
    Brown HDT
    Utah HDN
    Louisiana Monroe RDT
    Rhode Island RDN
    The Citadel RDA

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    Ok guys there seems to be a lot of hectic confusion this morning. I have been busy and couldn't get much done yesterday and I missed any 12pm games today. I'll post what I have (including 12pm games for reference). 

    Texas HDT
    Duke HFT
    Washington HFA
    Pittsburgh HFA
    Oklahoma St. HDT
    Marshall RDT
    Bowling Green HFA (2 pt difference but away so play it)
    Texas A&M HFN
    St. John's HDT
    TCU HFT
    Cal St. Fullerton RFA
    Duquesne RDT
    IUPUI RDN
    Montana St. HDA
    Texas Tech HDT
    Maryland RDA
    San Diego St. HFT
    Oakland RDT
    William & Mary HDA (2 pt difference but Away so play it)
    Santa Clara HDT
    Northern Arizona RDT
    Brown HDT
    Utah HDN
    Louisiana Monroe RDT
    Rhode Island RDN
    The Citadel RDA

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 1:07 PM ET #252

    Quote Originally Posted by sscott999:

    Unofficial plays per my spreadsheet with the following caveats:

    1) I have NOT looked at public sides so some of these might be no plays on the > 65% rule.

    2) Levels are based on opening lines

    3) I show the KP line and then the Opening Line per Vegas Insider.

    4) ALWAYS VALIDATE YOUR OWN PLAYS WHEN BETTING!!!  We are all capable of typos and errors.  If you just blindly follow someone else's recommendation without understanding why, you deserve to lose your money.

    Good luck...

    11:00:00 AM  Maryland RD, KP 14, OL 10
    12:00:00 PM  Purdue RD, KP 11, OL 8
    1:00:00 PM  SMU RD, KP 17, OL 13
    1:00:00 PM  St. John's HD, KP 5, OL 1.5
    1:30:00 PM  OK ST HD, KP 6, OL 2.5
    2:00:00 PM  Brown HD, KP 8, OL 3.5
    3:00:00 PM  Indiana St. RD, KP 16, OL 12
    4:00:00 PM  Duke HF, KP -8, OL -12
    4:00:00 PM  Texas HD, KP 5, OL 2.5
    4:00:00 PM  RI RD, KP 20, OL 15
    4:00:00 PM  TAMU HF, KP 1, OL -3.5
    5:00:00 PM  Utah HD, KP 9, OL 4.5
    5:00:00 PM  Tex Tech HD, KP 10, OL 4.5
    6:00:00 PM  Marshall RD, KP 5, OL 2.5
    7:00:00 PM  Eastern Ill HF, KP 2, OL -1
    7:00:00 PM  Citadel RD, KP 31, OL 24
    7:00:00 PM  Prov HD, KP 8, OL 4.5
    8:00:00 PM  Tulsa RF, KP 3, OL -2
    8:00:00 PM  Duq RD, KP 14, OL 9
    8:05:00 PM  IUPUI RD, KP 3, OL 0
    8:05:00 PM  Oakland RD, KP 15, OL 8.5
    8:30:00 PM  LA Monroe RD, KP 12, OL 7.5
    9:00:00 PM  Pitt HF, KP 1, OL -2
    9:00:00 PM  Mont ST HF, KP 3, OL -2.5
    9:05:00 PM  N. AZ RD, KP 6, OL 3
    10:00:00 PM  San Diego St. HF, KP -11, OL -15
    10:00:00 PM  Fullerton RF, KP 1, OL -2.5
    11:00:00 PM  Santa Clara HD, KP 14, OL 9.5

    Thanks sscott999. the starting times sure helps!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sscott999:

    Unofficial plays per my spreadsheet with the following caveats:

    1) I have NOT looked at public sides so some of these might be no plays on the > 65% rule.

    2) Levels are based on opening lines

    3) I show the KP line and then the Opening Line per Vegas Insider.

    4) ALWAYS VALIDATE YOUR OWN PLAYS WHEN BETTING!!!  We are all capable of typos and errors.  If you just blindly follow someone else's recommendation without understanding why, you deserve to lose your money.

    Good luck...

    11:00:00 AM  Maryland RD, KP 14, OL 10
    12:00:00 PM  Purdue RD, KP 11, OL 8
    1:00:00 PM  SMU RD, KP 17, OL 13
    1:00:00 PM  St. John's HD, KP 5, OL 1.5
    1:30:00 PM  OK ST HD, KP 6, OL 2.5
    2:00:00 PM  Brown HD, KP 8, OL 3.5
    3:00:00 PM  Indiana St. RD, KP 16, OL 12
    4:00:00 PM  Duke HF, KP -8, OL -12
    4:00:00 PM  Texas HD, KP 5, OL 2.5
    4:00:00 PM  RI RD, KP 20, OL 15
    4:00:00 PM  TAMU HF, KP 1, OL -3.5
    5:00:00 PM  Utah HD, KP 9, OL 4.5
    5:00:00 PM  Tex Tech HD, KP 10, OL 4.5
    6:00:00 PM  Marshall RD, KP 5, OL 2.5
    7:00:00 PM  Eastern Ill HF, KP 2, OL -1
    7:00:00 PM  Citadel RD, KP 31, OL 24
    7:00:00 PM  Prov HD, KP 8, OL 4.5
    8:00:00 PM  Tulsa RF, KP 3, OL -2
    8:00:00 PM  Duq RD, KP 14, OL 9
    8:05:00 PM  IUPUI RD, KP 3, OL 0
    8:05:00 PM  Oakland RD, KP 15, OL 8.5
    8:30:00 PM  LA Monroe RD, KP 12, OL 7.5
    9:00:00 PM  Pitt HF, KP 1, OL -2
    9:00:00 PM  Mont ST HF, KP 3, OL -2.5
    9:05:00 PM  N. AZ RD, KP 6, OL 3
    10:00:00 PM  San Diego St. HF, KP -11, OL -15
    10:00:00 PM  Fullerton RF, KP 1, OL -2.5
    11:00:00 PM  Santa Clara HD, KP 14, OL 9.5

    Thanks sscott999. the starting times sure helps!!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 1:07 PM ET #253

    hey thanks guys!!!!!! and scott9999 that helped out alot... lets get this paper....
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    hey thanks guys!!!!!! and scott9999 that helped out alot... lets get this paper....
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 1:32 PM ET #255

    For record keeping, here is what I played under the Kelly Criterion method.  Not 100% matches, but for a Saturday it is close enough.

    Purdue
    St. Johns
    Maryland
    Southern Methodist
    Oklahoma St.
    Brown
    Indiana St.
    Rhode Island
    Duke
    Texas
    Texas A&M 
    Texas Tech
    Utah   
    The Citadel
    Colorado 
    Marshall
    Duquense
    Tulsa
    Louisianna Monroe
    Pittsburgh
    Cal St. Fullerton
    Santa Clara
    Northern Arizona
    Montana St.
    Oakland
    IUPUI
    San Diego St.
    Texas Christian

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    For record keeping, here is what I played under the Kelly Criterion method.  Not 100% matches, but for a Saturday it is close enough.

    Purdue
    St. Johns
    Maryland
    Southern Methodist
    Oklahoma St.
    Brown
    Indiana St.
    Rhode Island
    Duke
    Texas
    Texas A&M 
    Texas Tech
    Utah   
    The Citadel
    Colorado 
    Marshall
    Duquense
    Tulsa
    Louisianna Monroe
    Pittsburgh
    Cal St. Fullerton
    Santa Clara
    Northern Arizona
    Montana St.
    Oakland
    IUPUI
    San Diego St.
    Texas Christian

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 1:32 PM ET #256

    Quote Originally Posted by flyerlax06:


    Texas HDT
    Duke HFT
    Washington HFA
    Pittsburgh HFA
    Oklahoma St. HDT
    Marshall RDT
    Bowling Green HFA (2 pt difference but away so play it)
    Texas A&M HFN
    St. John's HDT
    Cal St. Fullerton RFA
    Duquesne RDT
    IUPUI RDN
    Montana St. HDA
    Texas Tech HDT
    Maryland RDA
    San Diego St. HFT
    Oakland RDT
    William & Mary HDA (2 pt difference but Away so play it)
    Santa Clara HDT
    Northern Arizona RDT
    Brown HDT
    Utah HDN
    Louisiana Monroe RDT
    Rhode Island RDN
    The Citadel RDA

    Quote Originally Posted by sscott999:


    11:00:00 AM Maryland RD, KP 14, OL 10
    12:00:00 PM Purdue RD, KP 11, OL 8
    1:00:00 PM SMU RD, KP 17, OL 13
    1:00:00 PM St. John's HD, KP 5, OL 1.5
    1:30:00 PM OK ST HD, KP 6, OL 2.5
    2:00:00 PM Brown HD, KP 8, OL 3.5
    3:00:00 PM Indiana St. RD, KP 16, OL 12
    4:00:00 PM Duke HF, KP -8, OL -12
    4:00:00 PM Texas HD, KP 5, OL 2.5
    4:00:00 PM RI RD, KP 20, OL 15
    4:00:00 PM TAMU HF, KP 1, OL -3.5
    5:00:00 PM Utah HD, KP 9, OL 4.5
    5:00:00 PM Tex Tech HD, KP 10, OL 4.5
    6:00:00 PM Marshall RD, KP 5, OL 2.5
    7:00:00 PM Eastern Ill HF, KP 2, OL -1
    7:00:00 PM Citadel RD, KP 31, OL 24
    7:00:00 PM Prov HD, KP 8, OL 4.5
    8:00:00 PM Tulsa RF, KP 3, OL -2
    8:00:00 PM Duq RD, KP 14, OL 9
    8:05:00 PM IUPUI RD, KP 3, OL 0
    8:05:00 PM Oakland RD, KP 15, OL 8.5
    8:30:00 PM LA Monroe RD, KP 12, OL 7.5
    9:00:00 PM Pitt HF, KP 1, OL -2
    9:00:00 PM Mont ST HF, KP 3, OL -2.5
    9:05:00 PM N. AZ RD, KP 6, OL 3
    10:00:00 PM San Diego St. HF, KP -11, OL -15
    10:00:00 PM Fullerton RF, KP 1, OL -2.5
    11:00:00 PM Santa Clara HD, KP 14, OL 9.5

    I took off TCU opened for me at 4.5 and KP -2. No play for me. But these list are matching up to mine. And Beavers through the 8pm games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyerlax06:


    Texas HDT
    Duke HFT
    Washington HFA
    Pittsburgh HFA
    Oklahoma St. HDT
    Marshall RDT
    Bowling Green HFA (2 pt difference but away so play it)
    Texas A&M HFN
    St. John's HDT
    Cal St. Fullerton RFA
    Duquesne RDT
    IUPUI RDN
    Montana St. HDA
    Texas Tech HDT
    Maryland RDA
    San Diego St. HFT
    Oakland RDT
    William & Mary HDA (2 pt difference but Away so play it)
    Santa Clara HDT
    Northern Arizona RDT
    Brown HDT
    Utah HDN
    Louisiana Monroe RDT
    Rhode Island RDN
    The Citadel RDA

    Quote Originally Posted by sscott999:


    11:00:00 AM Maryland RD, KP 14, OL 10
    12:00:00 PM Purdue RD, KP 11, OL 8
    1:00:00 PM SMU RD, KP 17, OL 13
    1:00:00 PM St. John's HD, KP 5, OL 1.5
    1:30:00 PM OK ST HD, KP 6, OL 2.5
    2:00:00 PM Brown HD, KP 8, OL 3.5
    3:00:00 PM Indiana St. RD, KP 16, OL 12
    4:00:00 PM Duke HF, KP -8, OL -12
    4:00:00 PM Texas HD, KP 5, OL 2.5
    4:00:00 PM RI RD, KP 20, OL 15
    4:00:00 PM TAMU HF, KP 1, OL -3.5
    5:00:00 PM Utah HD, KP 9, OL 4.5
    5:00:00 PM Tex Tech HD, KP 10, OL 4.5
    6:00:00 PM Marshall RD, KP 5, OL 2.5
    7:00:00 PM Eastern Ill HF, KP 2, OL -1
    7:00:00 PM Citadel RD, KP 31, OL 24
    7:00:00 PM Prov HD, KP 8, OL 4.5
    8:00:00 PM Tulsa RF, KP 3, OL -2
    8:00:00 PM Duq RD, KP 14, OL 9
    8:05:00 PM IUPUI RD, KP 3, OL 0
    8:05:00 PM Oakland RD, KP 15, OL 8.5
    8:30:00 PM LA Monroe RD, KP 12, OL 7.5
    9:00:00 PM Pitt HF, KP 1, OL -2
    9:00:00 PM Mont ST HF, KP 3, OL -2.5
    9:05:00 PM N. AZ RD, KP 6, OL 3
    10:00:00 PM San Diego St. HF, KP -11, OL -15
    10:00:00 PM Fullerton RF, KP 1, OL -2.5
    11:00:00 PM Santa Clara HD, KP 14, OL 9.5

    I took off TCU opened for me at 4.5 and KP -2. No play for me. But these list are matching up to mine. And Beavers through the 8pm games.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 1:33 PM ET #257

    Quote Originally Posted by beaverfan23:

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    Official Saturday Plays:

    11AM
    MD +9 (RDA)
    12PM
    Purdue +8.5 (RDT)
    1PM
    StJohns +2 (HDT)
    SMU +14.5 (RDT)
    OKSt +3.5 (HDT)
    2PM
    Brown +4 (HDT)
    3PM
    Indiana St +13.5 (RDT)
    4PM
    URI +15 (RDN)
    Duke -10.5 (HFT)
    Texas +3.5 (HDT)
    TxAM -3.5 (HFN)
    5PM
    Texas Tech +6 (HDT)
    Utah +4.5 (HDN)
    6PM
    Colorado -1.5 (HFN)
    Marshall +4 (RDT)


    cidel and E. Ill to this list.


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    Official Saturday Plays:

    11AM
    MD +9 (RDA)
    12PM
    Purdue +8.5 (RDT)
    1PM
    StJohns +2 (HDT)
    SMU +14.5 (RDT)
    OKSt +3.5 (HDT)
    2PM
    Brown +4 (HDT)
    3PM
    Indiana St +13.5 (RDT)
    4PM
    URI +15 (RDN)
    Duke -10.5 (HFT)
    Texas +3.5 (HDT)
    TxAM -3.5 (HFN)
    5PM
    Texas Tech +6 (HDT)
    Utah +4.5 (HDN)
    6PM
    Colorado -1.5 (HFN)
    Marshall +4 (RDT)


    cidel and E. Ill to this list.


     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 1:37 PM ET #258

    Y was Purdue a play when there was only a 3 point difference?  Just confirming if anyone can help me on that one.  Thanks guys lots of games today.  The percentages r in our favor with these plays!!!!  Lets get em.
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    Y was Purdue a play when there was only a 3 point difference?  Just confirming if anyone can help me on that one.  Thanks guys lots of games today.  The percentages r in our favor with these plays!!!!  Lets get em.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 1:41 PM ET #259

    Nevermind I reviewed the levels again for the Purdue play.  Thanks again guys lets keep it rolling.
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    Nevermind I reviewed the levels again for the Purdue play.  Thanks again guys lets keep it rolling.
     
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    Its a long day. Lets make some money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stiffler1705:

    Its a long day. Lets make some money.

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    Its a long day. Lets make some money.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 1:56 PM ET #262

    Got Brown at +6 hopefully those extra points aren't needed.  GO BEARS!!
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    Got Brown at +6 hopefully those extra points aren't needed.  GO BEARS!!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by stiffler1705:

    Quote Originally Posted by sscott999:


    11:00:00 AM Maryland RD, KP 14, OL 10
    12:00:00 PM Purdue RD, KP 11, OL 8
    1:00:00 PM SMU RD, KP 17, OL 13
    1:00:00 PM St. John's HD, KP 5, OL 1.5
    1:30:00 PM OK ST HD, KP 6, OL 2.5
    2:00:00 PM Brown HD, KP 8, OL 3.5
    3:00:00 PM Indiana St. RD, KP 16, OL 12
    4:00:00 PM Duke HF, KP -8, OL -12
    4:00:00 PM Texas HD, KP 5, OL 2.5
    4:00:00 PM RI RD, KP 20, OL 15
    4:00:00 PM TAMU HF, KP 1, OL -3.5
    5:00:00 PM Utah HD, KP 9, OL 4.5
    5:00:00 PM Tex Tech HD, KP 10, OL 4.5
    6:00:00 PM Marshall RD, KP 5, OL 2.5
    7:00:00 PM Eastern Ill HF, KP 2, OL -1
    7:00:00 PM Citadel RD, KP 31, OL 24
    7:00:00 PM Prov HD, KP 8, OL 4.5
    8:00:00 PM Tulsa RF, KP 3, OL -2
    8:00:00 PM Duq RD, KP 14, OL 9
    8:05:00 PM IUPUI RD, KP 3, OL 0
    8:05:00 PM Oakland RD, KP 15, OL 8.5
    8:30:00 PM LA Monroe RD, KP 12, OL 7.5
    9:00:00 PM Pitt HF, KP 1, OL -2
    9:00:00 PM Mont ST HF, KP 3, OL -2.5
    9:05:00 PM N. AZ RD, KP 6, OL 3
    10:00:00 PM San Diego St. HF, KP -11, OL -15
    10:00:00 PM Fullerton RF, KP 1, OL -2.5
    11:00:00 PM Santa Clara HD, KP 14, OL 9.5

    I took off TCU opened for me at 4.5 and KP -2. No play for me. But these list are matching up to mine. And Beavers through the 8pm games.

    Marquette opened at -7 1/2 at betonline .. not - 4 1/2 .. no play on Providence for me 

    Austin Peay opened at - 1 at betonline Kp has em - 2 .. No Play for me on E ILL .. I could be wrong but , check it out !!

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    11:00:00 AM Maryland RD, KP 14, OL 10
    12:00:00 PM Purdue RD, KP 11, OL 8
    1:00:00 PM SMU RD, KP 17, OL 13
    1:00:00 PM St. John's HD, KP 5, OL 1.5
    1:30:00 PM OK ST HD, KP 6, OL 2.5
    2:00:00 PM Brown HD, KP 8, OL 3.5
    3:00:00 PM Indiana St. RD, KP 16, OL 12
    4:00:00 PM Duke HF, KP -8, OL -12
    4:00:00 PM Texas HD, KP 5, OL 2.5
    4:00:00 PM RI RD, KP 20, OL 15
    4:00:00 PM TAMU HF, KP 1, OL -3.5
    5:00:00 PM Utah HD, KP 9, OL 4.5
    5:00:00 PM Tex Tech HD, KP 10, OL 4.5
    6:00:00 PM Marshall RD, KP 5, OL 2.5
    7:00:00 PM Eastern Ill HF, KP 2, OL -1
    7:00:00 PM Citadel RD, KP 31, OL 24
    7:00:00 PM Prov HD, KP 8, OL 4.5
    8:00:00 PM Tulsa RF, KP 3, OL -2
    8:00:00 PM Duq RD, KP 14, OL 9
    8:05:00 PM IUPUI RD, KP 3, OL 0
    8:05:00 PM Oakland RD, KP 15, OL 8.5
    8:30:00 PM LA Monroe RD, KP 12, OL 7.5
    9:00:00 PM Pitt HF, KP 1, OL -2
    9:00:00 PM Mont ST HF, KP 3, OL -2.5
    9:05:00 PM N. AZ RD, KP 6, OL 3
    10:00:00 PM San Diego St. HF, KP -11, OL -15
    10:00:00 PM Fullerton RF, KP 1, OL -2.5
    11:00:00 PM Santa Clara HD, KP 14, OL 9.5

    I took off TCU opened for me at 4.5 and KP -2. No play for me. But these list are matching up to mine. And Beavers through the 8pm games.

    Marquette opened at -7 1/2 at betonline .. not - 4 1/2 .. no play on Providence for me 

    Austin Peay opened at - 1 at betonline Kp has em - 2 .. No Play for me on E ILL .. I could be wrong but , check it out !!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 2:02 PM ET #264

    Quote Originally Posted by Needaline1st:

    Y was Purdue a play when there was only a 3 point difference?  Just confirming if anyone can help me on that one.  Thanks guys lots of games today.  The percentages r in our favor with these plays!!!!  Lets get em.
    MSU opened - 8 at betonline .. KP had MSU - 11 .. You always bet against KP .. The line fell between 4 1/2 - 8 points and had a 3 point difference which is the qualifier for a play via previous posts . The dog Purdue was a play even though it's another loser.
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    Y was Purdue a play when there was only a 3 point difference?  Just confirming if anyone can help me on that one.  Thanks guys lots of games today.  The percentages r in our favor with these plays!!!!  Lets get em.
    MSU opened - 8 at betonline .. KP had MSU - 11 .. You always bet against KP .. The line fell between 4 1/2 - 8 points and had a 3 point difference which is the qualifier for a play via previous posts . The dog Purdue was a play even though it's another loser.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 2:13 PM ET #265

    Thanks upside I had realized that right after I reviewed the levels.  I appreciate the clear explanation.  We got this down.  Now we just need a little bit of luck and we'll be smiling all day
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    Thanks upside I had realized that right after I reviewed the levels.  I appreciate the clear explanation.  We got this down.  Now we just need a little bit of luck and we'll be smiling all day
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 2:27 PM ET #266

    Thanks for the reply. I am surprised the system uses such a limited amount of betting data. Those numbers are derived from

    Covers "All Players" consensus shows the number of picks in the league cash contests made by all players. If the percentage of picks exceeds 59%, the game is highlighted.

    That can't be a huge sample. For example if you use Sports Options they are giving you the % of all sportsbooks where you have tens of thousands of wagers going into the numbers rather than a few handfuls.

    This whole proces could be taken to the next level and refined further, not that the current process isn't good. I think if you use a consensus of all bettors that will help and I wouldn't use Betonline's opening number I would use Pinnacles. It would be interesting to see how the number of plays would change and what the results might be.

    Perhaps you could do a dual run, one which you have today vs what I prescribed above. See what matches up and use that as a super set of results.

    Right now you are relying on one set of sampling and there should be another set to help further refine.

    Just a thought.

    Continued success.

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    They come from the All NCAA Handicappers link off of the NCAAB page on Covers.com.

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    Thanks for the reply. I am surprised the system uses such a limited amount of betting data. Those numbers are derived from

    Covers "All Players" consensus shows the number of picks in the league cash contests made by all players. If the percentage of picks exceeds 59%, the game is highlighted.

    That can't be a huge sample. For example if you use Sports Options they are giving you the % of all sportsbooks where you have tens of thousands of wagers going into the numbers rather than a few handfuls.

    This whole proces could be taken to the next level and refined further, not that the current process isn't good. I think if you use a consensus of all bettors that will help and I wouldn't use Betonline's opening number I would use Pinnacles. It would be interesting to see how the number of plays would change and what the results might be.

    Perhaps you could do a dual run, one which you have today vs what I prescribed above. See what matches up and use that as a super set of results.

    Right now you are relying on one set of sampling and there should be another set to help further refine.

    Just a thought.

    Continued success.

    jr

    Quote Originally Posted by trabs9:

    They come from the All NCAA Handicappers link off of the NCAAB page on Covers.com.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 2:32 PM ET #267

    [IMG]https://img718.imageshack.us/img718/4605/76903008.jpg[/IMG]

    Hopefully this shows up here, this is what sports options looks like. I mashed it together just for the Yale/Brown game. The books you see are the ones I put up that I monitor. There's a ton of other choices but I find these to be the best to follow.

     

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    [IMG]https://img718.imageshack.us/img718/4605/76903008.jpg[/IMG]

    Hopefully this shows up here, this is what sports options looks like. I mashed it together just for the Yale/Brown game. The books you see are the ones I put up that I monitor. There's a ton of other choices but I find these to be the best to follow.

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 2:35 PM ET #268

    Good points bro ... I was first aginst using betonline opening lines but thats how the record ats was made . We can break off and try another opening line site ..
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    Good points bro ... I was first aginst using betonline opening lines but thats how the record ats was made . We can break off and try another opening line site ..
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 2:36 PM ET #269

    I love the ideas everyone has in here.  We can keep refining the system and keep improving!!  Another idea I had is with the line moves.  Like right now I have Indiana State at +10.  I think we should be disciplined and stay away from these movements. ( Unless you locked in at the previous 13.5 already) I had +13.5 and now we lost 3.5 points.  I say we don't play these for sure.  Just my thinking 
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    I love the ideas everyone has in here.  We can keep refining the system and keep improving!!  Another idea I had is with the line moves.  Like right now I have Indiana State at +10.  I think we should be disciplined and stay away from these movements. ( Unless you locked in at the previous 13.5 already) I had +13.5 and now we lost 3.5 points.  I say we don't play these for sure.  Just my thinking 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 2:46 PM ET #270

    Funny the more I think about that movement toward KP has been good to us so if anyone can still get Indiana State at the 13.5 number that one is looking great with one game moving away from KP and losing already today too
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    Funny the more I think about that movement toward KP has been good to us so if anyone can still get Indiana State at the 13.5 number that one is looking great with one game moving away from KP and losing already today too
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 2:48 PM ET #271

    Just a side note.  Mizzou looks like they came to play today.......
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    Come on Johnies !!!!
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 2:54 PM ET #273

    Indiana St is now +10 to +10.5 depending on where you wager. Unless some local fell asleep 13.5 is long gone.

    Some good additional thoughts, this is what helps makes something great........ greater.

     

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    Funny the more I think about that movement toward KP has been good to us so if anyone can still get Indiana State at the 13.5 number that one is looking great with one game moving away from KP and losing already today too

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    Indiana St is now +10 to +10.5 depending on where you wager. Unless some local fell asleep 13.5 is long gone.

    Some good additional thoughts, this is what helps makes something great........ greater.

     

    Quote Originally Posted by Needaline1st:

    Funny the more I think about that movement toward KP has been good to us so if anyone can still get Indiana State at the 13.5 number that one is looking great with one game moving away from KP and losing already today too

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 3:04 PM ET #274

    https://livestats.prestosports.com/brown/mbkb/?e=0ncoo1xl5q9svnak

    Yale/Brown

     

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    https://livestats.prestosports.com/brown/mbkb/?e=0ncoo1xl5q9svnak

    Yale/Brown

     

     
     
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    This system has gotten whacky, no good
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